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Swingers gone bad?? - - We agree these people are not swingers and should not be even close to the class of swingers.

Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - I was more meaning can I show up to Unspoken as a single male? I'm barely on facebook and only have a few friends. I'd still love to get into the group if possible though. Before that if I showed up without the password as a single msle would they let me in?

Ugly people and swinging - - Hey NOW!!! I resemble that UGLY remark! Donky what am I? Really big? No. Really really big? No, no. Green? No I'm an Ogar! You know grab your pitch folks, and run! Maybe those who are looking for *Ken and Barbie* need to be more careful and ask for pictures before meeting other people! Ugly people have feelings too, and they can be hurt and often are by words. There are a few select swingers clubs I dont like to attend because they think they are the *Beautiful People*, or they are very cliquish... To me, a BAD or STUCKUP attitude is a bigger turn off than those who might not completely meet my standards in the looks department. The second biggest turn off for me can be the first words out of someones mouth. Iron

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - thats are choice,, if that makes us racist so be it,, do you not like us thats your choice,, but thats our opinion,, Alton

Lifestyles and Life I wrote this yrs ago - - There's 2 kinds of swingers. those that are, And those that want to be.

stupid posts on topics that may make newbies change their minds! - - Yes, we've personally been responsible for countless noobs joining convents and/or monasteries after realizing that some swingers are simply not taking this shit seriously enough. Sex is serious business and if a post or thread isn't directly leading to someone getting laid then it should be banned! Thus saith the forum hall monitors. And I think I could make a pretty valid argument about who the "frustrated" party really is here. [em]Emo_67[/em]

Hedonism, Tempations, Sandals, or others? - - What are you looking for? Each has their own strengths. We chose Hedonism after a lot of comparison because we don't like to be moderated for nakedness, like to party with fun people, wanted fun nightlife without leaving the resort and wanted a place where we could be as free as we wanted without inhibitions. If you want a more mellow place but want to be naked, Desire is fun but an older, mellower crowd for the most part. Cruises are huge and have an age range from 21 to 101. You can find what you want but limited on play areas and such. Temptations has a lot of single guys, is topless, but you can show much PDA and can get in trouble for sexual play or nudity. Sandals is a basic, adult resort. Didn't see any naked people there and definitely not a "lifestyle" place. Any place you go I would highly recommend trying to go during a takeover. We have been several times during Young Swingers Week and after talking to many who have visited all the places you have mentioned, they like Hedonism the best. Of course that is all subjective. It's our top choice. We don't go to play constantly and it isn't a fuck-fest for us. It could be but it just isn't our style. You can have sex on the beach at night if you want. Not so at Temptations or Sandals. Desire seemed to mellow for us.

Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - Women rarely fantasize about the carnal and brutal side of sex men obsess about 24/7. Women dream about protection, stability, health, family life, abundance of resources, being respected and being married to a nice guy, good provider and overall, happiness. Admittedly I have not read the texts that you and evil speak of. I am not sure what percentage of women rarely fantasize or what percentage dream of the other group starting with protection. Nor am I interested in a PDF of the article or text. Personally it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other what the percentages are or the motives behind them. I will grant you that a lot of what we hear here is male generated fantasies. I do think there are many women that do have fantasies as I do. None of us trying to play the imitation game or cool movie star like swingers as you report. It seems a lot of your responses are your opinion to the text, I am doubting whomever said imagination is good, that’s how we got to the moon, or the correlation to Native American casinos. My imagination makes my mind wander wether it be sex based fantasies or spiritual fantasies. My imagination also is a component of my career that assists me greatly. Just my bent.

Frappr Web Toy - A cool free Google thing - That site is neat. I was in there already under my str8 handle in a cycle group but added the both of us to both the cycle swingers and U.S. swingers.

Why are people afraid to give out their email address - - Ohhh...I forgot to mention: How very timely things can be sometimes....just recently, on another website (for swingers), I had given a new contact our email address. I did this at his request (a single male), so he could send pictures. He did... ...what he sent was an email that - I really could only guess why - was forwarded not less than 16 times. Apparently, our new found friend has been very busy. Now, I'm sure you've all seen the emails where the subject line is FWD:FWD:FWD:RE: (etc, etc...) I've never realized anyone could be thoughtless enough to simply forward an email with pics to us, when the same email has been forwarded to 16 other people. And it's all right there, "in the clear" so to speak, in his email. Now, think about this: Here's a guy who is telling us he's sincerely interested in her, how he's only interested in making friends and not the typical wham-bam kinda thing. Funny, he seems to cover a lotta ground for someone so sincere. All in the past week or so, I might add. It gets better: at some point...I don't know, maybe he's got two machines and was bouncing pics between them, or whatever...he's also unwittingly included a different email address for himself (which, by the way, told us right away he's not been honest about his name). He's put his own, 'real' email address in there as well! But that's not the part that really relates to the subject of this thread. What does relate is the issue of emails, making rounds you can't even imagine, because of one careless person. I made the mistake of trusting this person - and imagine my horror when I saw how careful he was with the other 16 people's info in there...what if some were completely unaware he was doing that? I bet they are! And now, HE'S GOT OUR EMAIL ADDRESS!!! How many of his emails to others will have our address in it? Ever hear of 'social engineering'? Well, if you haven't, do some research. This is how talented computer people can take a little shred of info about you from here, and a little from there, and next thing you know, your private affairs aren't so private. Sure, we're only talking about swinging sites, right? But, didn't someone above mention work email? Tell me no one ever got the two mixed up - or that no one ever forwarded your email - the one you sent in total confidence - to their work address, intentionally or unwittingly!! Of the 16 email addresses right there in his email, 13 were Yahoo email addresses...now, it's a hop, skip and jump over to their profiles - and now I know even more about the people our friend listed in his email. Interesting to see who all he's been in touch with. Ohhh, by the way? Two of them were crossdressers, says so right there in their Yahoo profiles. What if that somehow found its way to where someone worked? I'll tell you what, I know how these people - the 'social engineers' - go about finding out all sorts of stuff. It so happens I'm not into messing with people like that, or I could have a field day with this stuff. I'm not interested in it, but what if I were? Someone who was a real low-life could start contacting these people, saying things like "I know you've been in touch with X"...or they try to play a confidence game, by dropping names picked up from various sources: "Hey Jimmy told me you're..." after seeing an email from "James" so-and-so. There are countless variations, but these people are relentless - and they're not stupid! Think it doesn't happen? Think again. Every word of what I say above is absolutely true. May not sound like much until you consider all the possible ways it could be exploited. And it happened, just about the time I took interest in this thread. So, I hope this little story helps illustrate my point. I hope it helps answer the original question; *This* is why people are reluctant to give out email addresses. And, maybe they damn well should be.