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Stabbing at swingers party? - - Unfortunatetly, this kind of thing is bound to happen. It can happen in any setting for any reason. There are always people with coping issues present in life and especially in this lifestyle. Since the spectrum or Gamut of people in the lifestyle is wide, you get varying degrees of ability to cope. Some find they enjoy watching their spouse with another and have great lines of communication and understanding, whilst others aren't honest with themselves or their partner. This can lead to numerous problems in the relationship from arguments to, in this case, murder. I think age (immaturity) has a great deal to do with the circumstance in this case. For anyone to blame this on swinging would be idiocy. My two cents... -Mr TR-

Swingers Club - Swingers Club - As I was driving through Clearfield City I noticed Bogey's finally closed. down. I then though it would make a great swingers club. I have never really been to an actually one so....

Another Swingers Show on TV - - did anyone catch this show?....we thought it was a decent representation of some of the issues that arise in the lifestyle.However,we did think it was humorous at times as a few of the couples seemed to be concerned with privacy in not letting family and friends know they are swingers (we dont either) but they are on TV in a swinger show..lol..it will be interesting to see how they progress in upcoming episodes.

Challenging experience and how you deal with it! - - 1st time is never the best, that is why we like 2nd, 3rd, 4th and so times, making friends,(does not have to be buddys, or move in with you) people you can talk to more than about sex... is what really makes the life great... our continuing story.... rich has a severly broken leg right now... the people that are making life work for us for the most part are swing friends, some are on the site... we had just contracted on a house befor rich's leg, closed from the hospital, a couple we have known for a while got a truck and moved us in our new home... the wife of a couple (on this site) has been taking rich to his appointents, which until recently were every day, her husband fix and painted one of the rooms in the new place just befor the move in... rich's best friend, a single male (on this site)has been there, and a single female friend has been too... many other couples have come by and done a little even if it was a ride to get lunch or dinner... and rich really appreciates the sympathy blow jobs... ;) not everyone you play with will make a connection, but trying for that connection is the best part... and for us, right now, if not for the swingers in our lives, we would be lost in trying to works things out.

Best Swingers club in Cincinnati area? - Swingers clubs - Dane- Many thanks for the honest and informative answer. This is why we really do like ClubSinDay...owners are down-to-earth, straight forward, honest and SUPER friendly!!

Tooele swingers party 2 - Doing our second party - So were going to host a second party at our house in tooele. Now that we've got a better on idea on what to do going forward. So were looking for couples to join. Please feel free to message if interested.

Swinging with Vanillas - Any success stories? - Most of our hookups and extended relationships have been with people that don't classify themselves as swingers or any other alternative group.

Single Males - Question - Lifetime Member Location: WICHITA, KS Join Date: May 12, 2002 Posted By: CASIOOO72 Reply posted on: Jan 9, 2004 - 12:56 am -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Trashing the single male again, Have you clps looked at yourselves? You are lucky to get a single male to play with your old lady. You might have to tie a bone around here neck. Give me a break most of you cry babys got married in the first place becouse your partner is the only one that would give you any. Single males power too you." This is the kind of reply and attitude that is the reason why single males get such a bad rap. In response to you thinking that the only reason we our with our wifes is because she is the only one who would give us any is ridiculous especially coming from someone who is single and needs to troll a swingers site to get laid. So until you can go find someone of your own, you should keep your comments to yourself.

Evil's latest poll. Fellas, would you ever... - - [quote=CHEFFETTE][quote=EVILDOERS]Naw. Not tryin' to be the Soup...er Sex Nazi. Just wanted to try to understand where some of the attitudes about male bisexuality and swinging come from. I find it extremely interesting how much homophobia still exists in the world and how much exists in a community of people dedicated to sexual freedom. I find human nature fascinating and especially when that nature is something that is more or less taught rather than innate. [/quote]In the three months + I've been reading here all I can come up w/ to explain certain members' homophobia and continued, idiotic comments is this is a male-dominated swinger site and in my experience males feel more threatened by the potential they're perceived as something they don't want to be seen as; you'd think that w/ as much time as they spend w/ their own cock in their hand every single day they'd be less terrified of a cock belonging to another guy, but apparently they must declaim it at every turn or they'll go sterile/bald/teh gayz w/o even TRYING.[/quote] If I were from Maine, I'd say "Ahyup". As I told a girl a couple days back when we were talking about "Sexual Fluidity" by Lisa Diamond, when she said she'd heard that Diamond is working on a new study along the same lines, but on men instead of women, I doubted she'd find much there because, for whatever reason, society has a much more severe taboo against male-male sex than it does against female-female sex. The taboo against women with women was once nearly as strong, but since probably sometime in the '60s it has become much less so. And you're surrounded by society's attitudes, and they're pounded into your head from they day you're old enough to understand anything. And the stronger a taboo, and male-male sex is one of the strongest, the more unlikely it is that you'll get ever rid of it. Physically, sex is a matter of friction properly applied to the correct parts of the body, ultimately resulting in orgasm. So the sex of the person applying it, or to whom you're applying it, really shouldn't matter. But it does. I have absolutely zero homophobia. If I'm in bed with more than one person, and some guy's hand touches me someplace for a second I won't freak out or even care. I understand that I've been socialized into how I feel, and that if I'd grown up in, for example, ancient Greece, I wouldn't have been. I understand that the prohibition of male-male sex grew out of humanity needing to expand as quickly as possible in order to survive, and that the cultural attitudes which that created got written into religions as they developed. I know that there's absolutely no logical reason for it. I know that the "logical" arguments against homosexual sex are nonsense. Like "it isn't natural - you don't see homosexual animals." Bullshit. Yes you do, all the time. I have a hen who's always humping the other hens. She doesn't accomplish anything, but she does it. One of the animals that is genetically closest to humans, the Benobo, a type of chimpanzee, has sex all the time with members of its band (the true swingers of the animal world), male or female, doesn't matter. I know that physically, biologically, there's no reason sex with one sex shouldn't work as well as with the other. I have a really good friend who is a pre-op male to female transexual, and if she ever has the surgery, and becomes physically female below as well as above the waist, sure I'd have sex with her if she wanted to. And I have other friends who are lesbian or gay. And I even belong to and volunteer for HRC (Human Rights Council). I should be a prime candidate for bisexuality. But no, I would not suck someone's dick. Or want some guy sucking mine. Even though I understand that that feeling has been socialized into me, that it probably wasn't predetermined when I was born male, still it's there, and it is what it is. The more emphatically something is socialized into you as you grow up, the less likely it is that you'll ever break away from it, even if you do manage to get away from some of the other things you were "taught". And I think that, Evil is your answer. ~ Terry

Disappointments! - - WE ALSO ONLY PLAY WITH GOOD FRIENDS , TO US WE ARE SWINGERS YES , BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT SALL THE LIFE STYLE IS ALL ABOUT TO US . WE WANT TO PLAY WITH FRIENDS . NOT EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY THAT WILL PLAY WITH US .TO US ITS NOT ABOUT HOOKING UP AND HAVIGN SEX . ITS ABOUT SHARING EACH OTHER AND EXPLOREING WITH FRIENDS . WE DONT REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MEETING PEOPLE OR HOOKING UP WITH THOSE THAT WE WANT TO . AND WE FOR THE MOST PART ARE STILL GOOD FRIENDS OR PLAY MATES WITH ALL OF OUR FRIEND S. WE TELL EVERYBODY WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR FRIEND S. THAT WAY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN A HURRY TO HOOK UP WILL LEAVE US ALONE . WE TAKE OUR TIME AND GET TO KNOWPEOPLE AND PLAY WHEN IT FEELS RIGHT . THE BEST WAY TO FIND PEOPLE WHAT UA RE LOOKING FOR IS . TO .... PUT AS MUCH INFO IN YOUR PROFILE AS U CAN . TRY TO WRITE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON DIFFERENT SITES . AND SAYING UP FRONT . U ARE LOOKING FOR NEW FRIENDS . GO TO AS MANY PARTIES AS U CAN . THAT WAY U CAN MEET ALOT OF NEW PEOPLE ALL THE TIME . STUFF LIKE THAT HELPS OUT ALOT . MAYBE START YOUR OWN YAHOO GROUP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT . WE JUST STARTED A NEW GROUP CALLED [email protected] WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT FOR SWINGERS THAT ALSO WANT TO BE FRIENDS . STUFF LIEK THAT CAN HELP ALOT . TRY TO LOOK FOR NEWBIES . OR GROUPS FOR NEWBIES . I THINK U WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE ON MEETING MORE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR FRIENDS .... THERE IS SO MANY DIFFERENT SITES OR GROUPS OR CLUBS FOR SWINGERS . U HAVE TO FIND A FEW THAT WORK BEST FOR YOU AND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR . IF U CAN T FIND WHAT U ARE LOOKING FOR STARTING YOUR GROUP MIGHT BE THE BEST THING . DONT KEEP LOOKING . CAUSE I CAN TELL U THERE IS COUPLES OUT THERE LOOKING FOR THE SAME THINGS AS U . U JUST HAVE TO FIND THEM . NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY