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Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote=CRAZYFOXTCU]From certain perspectives yes that's what I'm saying. Religion twists things but from the view of an Islamic extremest what those terrorists did on that plane was the pinnacle of a moral example. From our point of view it was horrid and sick. We are in the out group to these terrorists and religion has warped their view so that they think they need to defend the ideals of their in group. Understanding that they believe they are doing good things doesn't excuse them from the bad things they do. Like how the Pope isn't innocent for using his influence to stop people from using condoms in countries riddled with AIDS and parent less children. He believes he is doing right but is inexcusable.[/quote] I am afraid I have to agree. I think morality is a moving object and simply a point of view. It does not take religion or lack of it to make you moral because morality is a self designation and has no absolutes. If we pass laws to protect morality based on an absolute definition of morality, then we are climbing out on a limb and cutting it off behind us. I think hellokity defined the goal when she said

A NEW SITE TO SELL AND BUY SEXY STUFF - u may sell anything sexy there - A FEW OF YALL HAVE WRITTEN ME SAYING U ARE HAVING A HARD TIME GETTING ON THE SITE . THERE IS DIFFERENT PARTS TO THE SITE . THERE IS JUST A SWINGERS SITE TO JUST TALK AND MEET PEOPLE . AND THEN THERE IS THE AUCTION PART . WHERE U SELL AND BUY STUFF AT . U HAVE TO SIGN UP FOR BOTH PARTS . AND THEN CLICK ON WHERE U WANT TO GO ONCE U ARE ON THE MAIN PAGE . IF U HAVE ANY PROBLEMS PLEASE EMAIL ME AND ILL WALK U THROUGH IT . DONT FORGET ABOUT THE PIC CONTEST . IF U ARENT SHY THEN PLEASE ADD SOME NAUGHTY PICS TO THE CONTEST SO U CAN GET THE CHANCE TO WIN SOMETHING SEXY AND NAUGHTY . AND TO THOSE THAT ARE WAITING FOR THE PANTIES TO COME IN THEY SHOULD BE HERE IN A FEW DAYS . AS SOON AS I GET THEM THEY WILL BE UP ON THE SITE . IF U KNOW A PARTY IS COMING UP LET ME KNOW THE THEME AND ILL TRY TO FIND SOME STUFF FOR YOU .I WAS ALSO THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A WANT AD FOR STUFF . SO U CAN WRITE FOR SOMETHING U ARE LOOKING FOR AND SEE IF ANYONE HAS IT THAT WOULD WANT TO SELL IT . WHAT DO YALL THINK ABOUT THAT .????????? I AM LOOKING FOR A SWING . BUT I DONT THINK ANYONE THAT HAS ONE WILL SELL IT ... HA HA HA NAUGHTY DREAMS FREAKY KITTY

Comfort level of casual vs relationships? - - probably in the 2 to 4 range. we are swingers, not really polys.

Amusing Story about bad planning - Notice nobody asked the swinger\'s opinions - If I may interject something here with regard to the Orlando swingers\' New Year\'s Eve party. Several people have lambasted the \"parents\" of the children exposed to the swingers\' activities. I\'d like to take a different approach. Don\'t \"swingers\" have any common sense? For starters, the writer of the piece didn\'t make it clear whether the parents were or weren\'t with the children during the time of the exposure. Based on an \"adult\" reporting the incident(s) to hotel management though (Mr. Young, I believe), I\'ll take it that there might have been at least one situation where the parents were with the children. Besides, it doesn\'t say the the kids were out late at night. It doesn\'t make any specific statement about when the incident(s) took place. It does say that the swingers did their activities \"in front\" of the children. Didn\'t they have the common sense to notice youngens around and be discrete? Didn\'t the hotel management have enough sense to realize that swingers would probably be exposing themselves and therefore cover up the glass surrounding the ballroom where the majority of the event took place? And didn\'t the swingers\' group organizers have any sense to address those issues before, or even during, the event to make sure that anyone (child or adult) who doesn\'t want to \"participate\" in their enjoyment wouldn\'t have to be exposed to it (no pun intended, but hey!)? On the other hand, shouldn\'t a parent feel in a high level hotel like a Crowne Plaza that their kid could safely go down to the lobby vending machine (or whatever) without having to monitor their every movement? Doesn\'t that instill a sense of maturity in an age group (around 13 I think I recall from the story) that is virtually moments away from \"adulthood\"? From this perspective, there\'s plenty of blame to go around, except for the kids. Something else needs to be said here which is how people \"read into\" news coverage. It was quite interesting to see comments about the \"impression\" that the article made regardless of what it did or didn\'t actually say.

Swingers Vacation Spots - Help us - What would be your ultimate Swing Vacation Getaway spot, and why? Dont be surprised if we steal your idea and go there...lol.

Swinging Nude Night @ Club Hedonism Wed May 24th - - Our Dear Swingular Friends, You are invited to join us for Swinging Nude Night at Club Hedonism LAST WEEKS PARTY WAS SUCH A HIT AND A BIG THANK YOU GOES OUT TO ALL THE SEXY SWINGULAR COUPLES THAT ATTENDED ,SOOO ,,WE HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN LOL WEDNESDAY MAY 24TH ANOTHER SWINGING NUDE NIGHT!!!! Location: Club Hedonism 1000 East Sample Rd. Pompano Beach, Fl Exit 39 1 mile east Date: Wednesday, May 24th, 2006 Time: 8:00 pm to 4:00 am The XXXcitement never ends at, South Florida's premier elegant, private, intimate lifestyle club for the sophisticated and the adventurous... SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT! The results from our most recent ONLINE POLL are in! We asked, "Which Wednesday Swingin' Nude Night do you prefer..... Couples Only? or Couples & Singles Mixed?" It was a close call, the votes were tied, and then COUPLES ONLY landed the winning vote just seconds before the poll ended! BUT.... We were truly impressed with the voting action, so we're making our first Wednesday Swingin' Nude Night a night that EVERYONE will enjoy! Club Hedonism's First SWINGIN' NUDE NIGHT WEDNESDAY, MAY 17TH SKIN IS IN ..... CLOTHING IS OPTIONAL The Main Club Bar and Front Playrooms will be open to COUPLES & SINGLES MIXED The Fantasy Bar and Lounge Playrooms will be open to COUPLES ONLY ______________________________________________ XXX JELLO BODY SHOTS WILL BE SERVED IN BOTH BARS! ______________________________________________ "FRED" OUR HOUSE SYBIAN will be giving "Free Mustache Rides" in The Fantasy Lounge RIDE HIM TIL YOU SCREAM FOR A FREE WEEKEND CLUB PASS !!! ______________________________________________ DOORS OPEN AT 8PM.... Come early & then come all night long! *Member Couples..... just $35 at the door *Member Ladies.............. never a door fee *Member Gentlemen..... just $50 at the door *All New Memberships Purchased Tonight are HALF PRICE in honor of May Madness! Flirt... Mingle... Play... *NUDE* with South Florida's SEXIEST FRIENDLIEST SWINGERS at... CLUB HEDONISM 1000 East Sample Road Pompano Beach, FL 33064 (954) 783 - 4741 www.clubhedonism.com ____________________________ PS: ___________________________ PROPER DRESS CODE EVERY NIGHT No shorts, jeans, sneakers, sandals, t-shirts or hats. Gentlemen: dress like one ... Ladies: dress for seduction (The club reserves the right to refuse service and/or admittance based on appearance and/or attitude) ____________________________________________________________ Birthdays, Anniversaries, Special Ocassions Contact us... We'll help you make it a night to remember! ____________________________________________________________ We welcome your comments, suggestions and questions via email at: [email protected] ____________________________________________________________ Subscribe or unsubscribe to this newsletter at the subscription link on our website or click here: http://clubhedonism.com/subscribe.htm

Long Weekend - Just wondering what people have planned - anyone ever go to Fantasy Swingers Club in vegas. also the the exchange ever get set up there.

Sturgis 2009 - - We will be passing through Missoula on the way, but will not be stopping at the Testy Festy; but we are definately interested in meeting up with fellow SOBs (swingers on bikes) on the way.

I am horny.....Just throwing that out there!!! - - What do you swingers do to satisfied your horniest moods.....what is your kink all about hehe......Tell us?

That little nudge many of us need - - [quote=PARTYINLV]We think honesty is the best way to be. If she found out about the meeting without her knowledge, your tryst into the lifestyle may be over. Plus, she might feel the pressure to play at some point anyway. Also, she will always wonder if the next meeting is arranged without her knowledge. Evildoers is correct in meeting with zero chance of playtime. Take their advice. She will feel more relaxed and could enjoy herself with the pressure off. We will take it a step further: Step 1: Set up a date with ZERO playtime opportunity and let the other couple know that. Do something fun (a hike, Topgolf, etc) and get to know them. At the conclusion of the date, let them know that if they do not receive a message from YOU within 24 hours, you don't feel you are a match. Step 2: If you send a message to meet again, let them know your intent and your boundaries. For example, (kissing ok), (fondling ok), (bi kissing ok), (same room, separate room, either room ok), (nudity ok or not). But, speak honestly with each other about this. It's not nice to lead people on after you have committed. At the conclusion of the date, let them know that if they do not receive a message from YOU within 24 hours, you are not ready to go further. Step 3: If you send a message to meet again, let them know what is acceptable. For example (full swap or soft swap), (same room, separate rooms or either ok), (kissing or no kissing), (bi play) etc. Again, you will have to be honest with yourselves if you can do this. By a third date, the other couple has invested a lot of time in you. So, be nice and don't lead them on. Enjoy the playtime. Save enough time for the afterglow sex with them relaxing, chatting, and laughing. By this point, you may have found a couple that you can see multiple times. Doing vanilla activities with them might be a bonus. They may even introduce you to their lifestyle friends too. The other option is attending a house party where play is not expected. You will be able to speak to several couple and perhaps, use the process above. Or you can play that night. When we entered the lifestyle, we never had that couple who could mentor us. After we considered ourselves as no longer newbies, we became the newbie "whisperers" to offer what we never had. However, we've gotten away from newbies since our circle is with experienced swingers now. But with covid, we would date newbies again.[/quote] Sounds like an excellent plan to avoid those one and done awkward meet ups👍