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Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - How do I join?
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - If I ever hit a huge Lotto I would for sure get a BUGATTI VEYRON ~ now that is bad ass and yours for a coooooooool Ooooooooooneeeeeee Miiiiiiilllllllliiiiooooooon Dollar$$$$$$$$
First time flop rule - it happens - [quote=T4REAL69][quote=DARJEN]Levitra will never let you down. Swallow your pride, go to your Doctor and tell him you can't get it up. Get a perscription and have some fun. I don't need it, but tried it once with some friends. It was incredible. It will make you harder, your recovery time is almost instantaneous and it feels soooo good. You'll never have a problem with nerves again. I can live with out it, but I would rather not.[/quote]
[/quote] Better living through pharmaceuticals....lol....I hear ya! Mmmmm I wonder if they will give me a swingers discount? Guess it couldn't hurt to ask ;)[/quote]
Don't want to burn that bridge too early...fine line between enjoyment, and dependency.
Las Vegas - Swingers clubs ect. - Green door
How did you start the lifestyle? - - Mine started before his did. I for some reason have a vibe girls like. Even though I was straight at the time girls just liked me for some odd reason to me. My first girl is Morgan and I met her at a club one day when dancing. She instantly wanted my friendship soooo I thought but as the friendship rolled on she would tell me she loved girls. I just did not think it was me as I was no where near being a lesbian or like women in that way.
A few months into our freindship I met Josh and we clicked like magic. He was sexy as could be. I just love tht man to peices.
Now know that Morgan was also married to a man at the time and has 3 kids like I do. So when i met Josh she somewhat loved that we were three. She soon left her husband and dated another guy. Who thought Morgan liked my husband and its always been thta she liked me. So they broke up and she moved in with us. During this time we had lots of girls come play and I soon realized you did not have to be lesbian to please a girl and can still remain friends too.
Josh loved that women liked me that way why wouldnt a man not like that lol. So we expanded to more girls and had Morgan play too.
About 6 months later we were full swingers with women. We decided to start looking for couples as it seemed hard to find a pair who would play. We looked on Craigs list and found just single boys or lots of red flags.
We went to club edge often which also Utah Uncensored would host sex parties and we fell in love with all the sexual people who came to them.
WE were told to go to swingular and have had a wonderful time since.
Josh and I have been together for almost 4 years and got married in April of 2010. We have never looked back and just keep going. We have enjoyed meeting playmates and new friends on here. We finally found were we like to be socially and love it completely!!!
We have not played with anyone but our friends here and there and then coming here has opened the door to enormous possiblities and we have had soooooo many fantasies come true can not wait for more!!!
sara n josh
Vegas clubs / club attire - - We lived in Vegas for about three years, the perfect parties we're not all that great, we found a few friends and would either go to the swingers circle or whispers... the red rooster and green door were really over rated unless you there during a large weekend EDC or CES convention. Business casual for the men always appropriate. Hope this helps let me know if you have any questions
Swingers unnerve families at hotel - - Yeah off the subject a bit but I will address that in a moment... DAMN that is a freaking steaming hot volcanic hot Picture!!! Oh yeah umm party bad news bummer even it happened in Arkansas to a club I belonged to we moved on it was better for us. We Do not particularily care what the vanilla crowd sasy they think about it none of their business and of their concern. Can\'t tell people about their kids either mine are way young and up past midnight that night here at home having a little party of their own with the sittter finger sandwiches and all (pb and j) too cute!!!
I know too that kids are more exposed to nudity and what not in other countries and they are just fine!!!
Damn our puritanical patriarchal ways! All of it will blow over. People will move on. Maybe not enough DUI\'s that night and they needed something to make news.
AGAIN we LOVE that PICTURE!
Raven and Knyghtt
BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - are you all kiding , go "on line " you will find everything and more of what i am claiming to be TRUE , you will find helpfull info. there , i gain nothing if you trust me or not its your children and as i said some children had good luck some did not....{it might be that some children that have been exposed to porn and nudity can cope with swinging parents better}
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - MORALITY?
If ur asking then there's your answer.
First u have to ask yourself are u religous or Spirtual.
If ur Religous then banging someone else's wife is wrong.
If your Spiritual then it's more about the belief's/Guidelines you set for yourself in life.
That being said I'd have to think everyone on this site is more Spirtual than the other,
if not referrence Sodom and Gamorrah also Paganism.
Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
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