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What would you do? - what does a person do when their spouse no longer wishes to paticipate - Well.
How amazing that the "couple in question" just happens to be in my home town. And my wife and I are at a serious impasse about the same subject, but in the "traditional direction" i.e. I still want it. She still doesn't.
I'm... very surprised that a bunch of Swingers are so unanimous that "No trumps yes": that swinging is just something you do - but are ashamed of enough that any "no" in the group instantly defines the partner's life as well. Why isn't "yes" just as valid?
In our case, we've been married for over 25 years. We've had a very-good run. Our children are grown and gone. We're financially comfortable. And we're still physically capable - as we watch our parents be physically unable to walk, hear, see, pee, or do much of anything to enjoy *anything* - the point there being that I hear the clock ticking and to me, this is THE time of life to reap one's reward for the life one has lead - before it's too late to do anything but try to keep breathing.
And for me, being honest, the ONE thing that is my reward - is erotic fun. Let me be clear that what I crave is *erotic fun* - not just madly try to find someone new to fuck and never see again - but partners who want to wallow in the erotic experience of "Truth or Dare" and Lifestyle conventions and teasing and games. That's IT for me. That's why "doing it" is called "doing IT". And I've been a great husband/father/responsible citizen for over 50 years. And I feel that there isn't anything else in my life that really gives me a "reason for living".
And my wife, bless her, just has never had any passion. She enjoys it when I have sex with her. When I give her a nice massage followed by 3 or 4 orgasms. But she's happy with twice a month or less. And she had no need at all for my "erotic experiences". So here we are. And over the last 10 years we've tried pretty-much every possibility: traditional fidelity, me cheating, us swinging, me swinging alone with her permission... and it always ultimately winds up that the only way she is not *miserable* is if I'm following "traditional fidelity". And the only way I'm not miserable - is if I have the freedom to pursue erotic associations.
Now. If my passion were bowling, there wouldn't be a problem. If her passion were gardening or shoe shopping, there wouldn't be a problem. Everybody would just tell us to do our thing without the other - and enjoy what we *do* enjoy together. But somehow sex is THE one that we have to do *together* or not at all.
So we're very very seriously trying to figure out if we'd both be happier by tearing up a marriage and going our separate ways.
We can all *say* that whoever does NOT want to swing - rules the day, but imagine whatever your very-favorite thing is to do. Then imagine your spouse telling you: "I don't like to do that, so WE won't ever do that and You won't do it without me - and you won't do it alone, either - ever again". Now what?
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Quite the response.
Personal Web Page - - We never worried about the webpage here. We have our own. http://www.swingers.ws
Swingers - a couples only lifestyle? - Are singles considered to be swingers? - The term "swinger" is a label, plain and simple.
I like to think that sexuality is about the moment, not some label.
These days I tend to get pissy when someone refers to me as a "swinger". Its lumping me together with people that are not at all like me.
Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - definitely Fun4Two... here's the link: http://www.fun4two.nl/en/
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I'll bet Don Wan spit at the Vietnam vets too. What a looser. Thank God for the brave military men and women. Let's remeber the ones who died for all of us (even Don Wan) this Memorial Day Weekend.
Swingers Party - Doesnt mean who ever is there is open to everyone elsa - you should not avoid the clubs but the idiots there instead.we went to halloween party and an idiot grabbed my wife's ass i told him if he did it again i would throw him off the stairs and we were down stairs.having gotten his attention i then explained proper etiquette at a swing club some people just think that every one is there for their enjoyment because they paid to get in
Phil
Frustration with Friend Requests - - [quote=EVILDOERS]The underlying problem is the "we're swingers, you're swingers" mindset. We've been around the scene for a long time and met many many people who don't understand why we won't just fuck them...afterall, they're swingers and we're swingers...so let's just fuck already. This "hobby" is for fantasy fulfillment. If you aren't at least a little bit attracted to someone for any reason then what the hell is the point of fucking them? Especially when most of us can stay home and have WAY better sex with someone we love. [/quote]
Well fucking said!
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - Flipped me out...I am in my living room and all of a sudden someone is crying...HA HA HA HA
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - Do many couples go to Moab together or meet there? We go regularly and feel like we never see or hear about couples heading there or events etc.
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