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Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what.
I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused..
One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on.
You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden..
Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement.
In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that...
Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... .
So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them.
Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination....
We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced...
I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..
swingin - thought this site was a swingers site - The problem with waaaaaaa is that in my humble opinion he is a pathetic little man in brain power.Obviously he can't talk about any thing but sex must mean the fat bitch beside him isn't giving him any.Oh look other people can be rude also.Get a life and the sex talk will come but as i said previously do you go out and talk about nothing but sex with everyone that you meet.I guarantee if you met my wife and first thing out of your mouth was sex talk,you'd be in a world of deep shit.We got into this life style to meet people with like attitudes to be friends.Some we have met and became friends with and still have NOT had sex with them.Others we have met and talked a while about this that and the other things and had great sex with them.Now judging by your vocabulary and your picture it appears to me that is all you can do is talk about it.You must figure that if you talk about it enough some one will finally give in and give you some.NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!
Mexico! Come with us!!! :) - Trying to put together a group of Swingers to go to Mexico with us! - I will have a better idea on prices once I know how many people are interested.It's looking like Spring is a little more expensive than when we went this October but with a big group the price will be lower. So round up all your friends that might be interested and once I know about how many people want to go I can call and find out what the group rate would be for that size of a group. I think they are also opening a resort in Montego Bay this winter so I can look at the rates there too since that might be cheaper. Let me know your thoughts and I'm hoping to see more responses as the weather gets colder and we all want to run away to the sun ;)
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - I'm very proud of both my husband and my two oldest sons who proudly served their country in two different branches of the military.
They would have gladly given their lives to protect the very freedoms that make this country what it is today.
And we all still get a lump in our throats when we hear of a soldier lost. When we see military tributes and when we hear the national anthem.
One of the most touching quotes I've heard is one my son brought home from basic training.
......"A true soldiers doesn't fight because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him"........
Maybe we'll have to default to wearing those black rings. - - The porn ban/block/opt-in is incredibly infeasible. Look at Reddit for example, there are TONS and TONS of subreddits (communities in a sense) that have porn. (reddit.com/r/swingers, reddit.com/r/swingersGW, reddit.com/r/nsfw, reddit.com/r/straightgirlsplaying...) It would take a tremendous amount of manpower in the state of Utah (as the ISPs will not do this) to label websites as "porn". Most exclusively porn sites (tubegalore, pornhub) are likely already labeled that, but again the reddits and tumblrs of the internet would take forever to filter out.
Now, about the opt-in list being held with the ISPs. They already know every single customer who looks at porn. Unless you use a good VPN, they are well aware of every website you visit. That being said, while they might not have a list of people that look at porn, it would be really easy for a hacker to, once they get into the ISP, gather information about everyone who looks at porn and share it with the world. If they couldn't get into the ISP, they could still get this information from porn websites.
Unfortunately for the Utah government, this plan is just not possible and is basically just BS to get support for reelections...
Orlando freaks - Orlando swingers - You should stop by Secrets Resort. Its about 20 min from you. If you haven't been its defiantly an eye opener.
What are swingers really looking for ?Are they looking for frien - Has the happen to you. - Please read our Profile..
We are looking for Single Females for Girl on Girl.
The only place it says anything about couples is at the very bottom and it says We will chat with couples and get together and become friends. (But no sexual stuff.) And we only did this because alot of couples always e-mail us.And we want them to know what we wanted from them before they e-mail us and wasted our time and theirs.We thought we were at the right place for what we are looking for (Single Females for Girl on Girl) so Please tell us what Sites or forums we sould go to if these sites and forums are not the right place. . :(
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - We are both Gemini
Age quesiton - Do swingers of the same age group swing together? - we like a wide range of ages...we are more pickier about attitude than age
ARE THE LIFESTYLE SWING COUPLES MORE SPIRITUALLY INCLINED - -
Great question,
I don't think lifestyle people are more or less. I think it's normal number are and are not regardless of the lifestyle question.
We have meet several swingers that continue to have issues with this. They feel that their beliefs in god don't allow for swinging. So at times they have major guilt issues with the lifestyle or even just being bisexual.
I personally don't get into that line of thinking because I believe that if everyone is in agreement and no one is getting hurt or lied to; then there is no "sin" with exploring the lifestyle.
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