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Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - http://www.fallujah.us/videos/
There are only a few examples of what our loved ones have been putting up with over there. Makes me wanna hug everyone of those beautiful bastards over there.
an example from the link above:
http://www.fallujah.us/videos/Fighting%20in%20Mosul%2002.mov
Can anyone else provide any? Hey if you look in this video you'll notice some are still in there PT Gear... this indicates they are in a defensive position and were attacked while some where on personal time. Think about that while you're sitting on your couch. Damn!!!
D&T
Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - There is another issue here, playing with a married male or female posing as a single. Or, swingers having sex with a vanilla cheater. It does go on.
searching for... - - hummmm just so we dont get crucified for diferent aspects of this post we will kinda poll first to see if the majority is open to the vanilla aspect in witch it is conveyed.....
I grew up in utah brighamcity.. then i moved to live with other relatives in eden (above ogden for those who dont know).... we lived on a dairy farm and were a close family... yes LDS.. not to mix or go pro or con... but that was how it is.... to the point.. I am in search of the siblings i grew up with... they may or may not still live in utah... probably ogden.. clearfield area.... to my knowledge not swingers but i havent seen them or had contact for about 25 years....So who knows... but the main point there is enuf peeps from the northern utah on this site someone will know them if they are still in the area... wether it be friends, co workers or in the same ward. question is are we going to be crucified for mentioning their names on here (even tho its not sexually related) as a attempt to locate them? Dennis
What really defines a TRUE swinger? - - Didn't read all this but one word sums up swinger to us: SWAR "Sex Without A (romantic) Relationship".
We have our personal opinions, but aside from SWAR, who are we to tell another couple, male, or female what "qualifies" them as swingers?
Just looking for other couples happy with super soft and no swap - There must be more of us out there? - This subject is whats making it hard for us real swingers to find real friends !!!! I dont think they are trying to be mean by saying face book is a good place for ya they are just being honest ...... But I hope u find what your looking for dont really see much fun in it though !!! But each there own ... Just sayin ...
Thanx J
Safe Sex - How do you (or don't you) protect yourselves? - Condoms? Yes, please.
However...I can think of quite a few reasons why some people are opposed to using them; Intimacy, sensation, alergies, penis size, etc. None of them seems compelling enough to me to make an acception though...
As \"swingers\" there is very very very little possibility that we (despite the fact that mRs. Luvbugs is \"fixed\") would allow anyone to be with either of us unless there was protection involved. In 12 years we have seen unwanted pregnancys, a paternity suit that became very nasty, STD\'s passed from one couple to another, and complete dishonesty about the sexual history of the person in question. What cracks us both up is when we get these letters that say \"Vasectomy SAFE.\" Get the f**k outta here! Are you serious? Safe from what? Pregnancy? A condom will do that nicely buddy, and as long as you arent trying to fuck a hole in someones back, they shouldnt really break all that often.
Everyone believes that they have led a good life and have avoided the contraction of an STD. I would like to be able to accept that fact in good faith, but there is no way I can allow myself to think in such a naiive manner. There are even those in this world who would KNOWINGLY pass a deadly disease such as AIDS to another person out of pure spite that they themselves have contracted it. There are risks with oral sex as well, but the probability of contracting anything serious is atleast somewhat less then through vaginal intercourse.
I just cant see it. It amazes me. A person would have to be plain stupid to take that risk.
Just our .02 cents.
Luvbugs! (mR.)
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How to get started? - - We would recommend to find someone interesting to you, write and meet.
We have found, and this is not scientific, but it is our experience, that if they do not want to meet for drinks or coffee after an email or two, they are not really interested but do not know how to say as such. This is not to say that you should meet and jump into the bed, but meeting is key. We have found very few people who are what their pics and profile say, us included, we hear many times, "Boy glad we took a chance, you should get better pics" and such. Those who post old pics are easily identified, they have the old hair styles, clothes, etc.
As to single men, we have found that MOST of them are unreliable at best. Few are truly swingers, rather they are men who want sex without a relationship. If something they see as better comes along, they will not show for you.
The going to the club idea is probably your best bet, aside from an email intro, a few minutes on yahoo, AIM, or MSN messenger to set up a meeting time and place.
WHo knows, maybe you just live in a crappy area for lifestyle activities...Come to Tampa, it has the most adult orriented businesses per capita than any other metropolitan area in the USA, at least in 2004 it did, according to Playboy.
Divorce rates - How do we compare - Accurate stats on this would be tough to get because of who would answer honestly that they were swinging before getting divorced - but you could probably get close and our bet would be that its pretty close to 50/50??
Having said that, I guess we're going to skew the stats negatively towards the swingers since we plan on getting divorced as soon as all the kids are grown. We dont believe that marriage is needed to prove ones love and commitment for each other. We we're successful at this for the first 7 years, and 2 kids; (bastards - lol) of our relationship. But back in the day before GLBT(P) started fighting for equal rights, insurance companies wouldn't cover "straight" partners either, so we got married to get coverage, among some of the other rights that might pertain to our children.
We have no problem with others getting married to extend their love for one another and we celebrate it. However, we absolutely detest governments using marriage as a tool to control the masses and their choice of romantic endeavors with each other - the rights that straight couples also loose from this should have many more people up in arms about it!
This is one of the problems that has aided in the distortion of what love, marriage and true friendship really is which in turn causes more divorce... and people that CANT HANDLE SWINGING.
Crickets! - - [quote=Tdaddy106]I’m brand new here and haven’t been able to correspond with anyone yet! Any pointers?![/quote]Don't join a swingers site during a lockdown and join one that is more prevalent in your area. This one is mostly Utah.
Do you only play with married couples? - - Marriage has little to do with this lifestyle. I've found that swingers (libertines) are a state of being or mindset and not a label given to any one group. Singles can be swingers too. Unmarried couples can be as well. Swinger is a broad label. Marriage has nothing to do with it.
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