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Here's something Ive been curious about - - I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.

How do you spot a Swinger..?! - tell tell signs of the lifestyle - How do you spot a Swinger..?! If, while fucking your wife, the guy is cheering you on while you're fucking HIS wife - chances are pretty good you've spotted a couple of Swingers.

3 some!! - Just curious - So based on the fact that it's a swingers site.... Most of us to some degree. However the variations on the theme of m

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - Morals are a set of rules we live by; some can be bent, some can be broken, right? It's that thing that allows people who are religiously devout to swing despite whatever teachings there are about such things; it's that "twist" in thinking that allows people to be bi- or homosexual and all despite what the majority has to say about it. It's all about what works for you within the framework of what society considers to be moral. There's right and wrong... but it's really about what's right and wrong for you, isn't it? And, really, if someone busting your ass about your "immoral" behavior, well, what skeletons do they have hiding in their closet, hmm? To that end, isn't it a matter of he who is without sin casting the first stone? I'm thinking there won't be a lot of people reaching for rocks... Rob

Orchard Place - Event info - [quote=BMSHELL][quote]That's not a bad price by weight.[/quote] Are you implying that entrance to a swingers event should be by the pound? Like.. the same way you buy a watermelon? $0.25 a pound, perhaps? "Welcome!!! Step on the scale...... Okay... that'll be $42.20 for the two of you.." Genius!!!! [/quote] This would motivate people to get naked a lot faster...can weigh yourself with clothes on.

The Hunt Club of Brevard is in the news - And I thought Utah was a news hog - here read this: http://randazza.wordpress.com/2008/04/23/hunt-club-swingers-parties-and-freedom-of-association/ totally cool. Yes?

Polyamory - polyanorous couples. - [quote=SUGARSANDSPICE][b]By general definition all swingers are polyamorous.[/b] Polyamory (from Greek ???? [poly, meaning many or several] and Latin amor [love]) is the practice, desire, or acceptance of having more than one intimate relationship at a time with the knowledge and consent of everyone involved. Polyamory is a less specific term than polygamy, the practice or condition of having more than one spouse. The majority of polygamous cultures are traditionally polygynous, where one husband has multiple wives. Polyandrous societies, in which one wife has multiple husbands, are less common but do exist. Marriage is not a requirement in polyamorous relationships. [/quote] That is the wikipedia definition and is not correct.

Single Females or Couples open to single men - - I really don’t think it was a bashing, just an opinion. We mostly play with singles. TBH we don’t give two fucks who we play with as long as there is attraction and we have fun. That said, I think the bashing would be greatly reduced with some site changes. We are in some that you need a valid post count or other ways to validate yourself, before being able to post new threads. Or maybe have forum spots for single’s posts. While we do play mostly with singles, we are definitely tired of trial members sending friend requests or seeing posts of single guys looking for single women. There are sites for that, as that’s not swinging (sorry kitten) it’s called hooking up, so use tinder. What people are gripping about is this is a swingers forum, you must be two people with trust in a relationship to actually swing, and they come here, a site they paid for, to see it crawling with singles posts. Some of the sexy pictures threads that have been going for years, still have comments by singles all over in them. I think they want to see the couples profiles here treated, or have more rights, than the singles. I’m not bashing anyone, in any way, it’s allowed so go for it. They just want the site rules different.

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asking your swinger friend if you can join them. - - "I am not in the lifestyle and don't think I ever really fully would be" "K USSIR your not a swinger but you wanna have sex with you friends wife with your friend there? HMMMMMMM I smell a swinger in the making" Naw, I smell a single guy who just wants to get laid. If you aren't really interested in swinging just leave it alone and get your jollies elsewhere. There are plenty of ways for you to get your rocks off in bars and clubs and on Craigslist. It's your VERY common SM attitude that makes it tough for the very few single guys who get it and really want to be part of the lifestyle. No wonder so many people constantly say that singles aren't really swingers. But don't worry. You aren't alone. We've met TONS of single dudes over the years who've admitted that they would NEVER allow their wife (if they ever got married) to fuck another man. Swinging is an attitude and a mindset. A guy who would let you fuck his wife is risking a lot and sharing with you the most important thing in his life. If you can't grasp that concept you should just stay home and jerk it to online porn.