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Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - We go there at least 4 times/year. Love it there. We haven’t been this year yet because we were not certain when everything was opening up. We are usually there on Memorial Day. We’ve never met another LS couple there yet - but are completely open to it. Have Mountain Bikes .... will travel .... also love to hike!! HUU.
Female sex fantasies. - What do women really think about sex? - Women rarely fantasize about the carnal and brutal side of sex men obsess about 24/7. Women dream about protection, stability, health, family life, abundance of resources, being respected and being married to a nice guy, good provider and overall, happiness.
Admittedly I have not read the texts that you and evil speak of. I am not sure what percentage of women rarely fantasize or what percentage dream of the other group starting with protection. Nor am I interested in a PDF of the article or text. Personally it doesn’t matter to me one way or the other what the percentages are or the motives behind them. I will grant you that a lot of what we hear here is male generated fantasies. I do think there are many women that do have fantasies as I do. None of us trying to play the imitation game or cool movie star like swingers as you report. It seems a lot of your responses are your opinion to the text, I am doubting whomever said imagination is good, that’s how we got to the moon, or the correlation to Native American casinos. My imagination makes my mind wander wether it be sex based fantasies or spiritual fantasies. My imagination also is a component of my career that assists me greatly. Just my bent.
Utah - - We like the fact that as swingers in Utah we have this dirty little secret that we have and we can sneak around (not unlike a cheating spouse we imagine) behind our neighbors, family and the Church's back doing all sorts of evil deeds and loving every minute of it. We've met TONS of Mormon "refugees" like ourselves who are so happy and excited to finally have the yoke of the Church off our backs that we go quite wild and enjoy our debauchery all the more. Other areas we've lived and "swung" don't quite have the same naughty feel as though we're getting away with something quite forbidden. So yeah, a lot of living in Utah can be a compromise and some of it downright sucks but overall it's extremely fun being EXTREMELY bad here. ;-)
The Evildoers
On Premise Swingers Club - SLC - A club here would be nice, definitely would need to be "discreet" as the morality police here would be out to shut it down before and after it got going.
Swingers cars??? - What ya driving?? - If we tell you we'd have to kill ya.....
Pink flamingo - How many swingers have a pink flamingo in their front yard? - Yeaa, all the "secret" swinging hints and references are all just funny. Even then I would love to see an upside down pineapple in the grocery cart.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - Also, just real quick. If you send us an invite and have no pics and/or one obscure photo with no private pics, we’ll just delete your message and request. We have NEVER met an unknown. We HAVE to see you. Thank you. 😉
RECOGNIZING OTHER SWINGERS - Outside of clubs & parties. - They did wrist bands before with some numbers that meant swingers. But I think it's much easier and straight-forward to come here.
Here's something Ive been curious about - - [quote=DRAGONFLIES]Two singles meeting up to have sex with a couple doesn't make them swingers. It makes them friends of convenience. [/quote]I could use that line to describe many married couples. I don't just randomly pair up with someone to have sex with or to meet other couples with. I care about my partners, and their well-being. We have a relationship, we communicate before we meet others, we use protection, and are respectful of feelings. We spend holidays together, do family things, and yes I call them friend, but we share more than just sex. I would never characterize them as friends of convenience.
[quote=ANDRAYWAY_SHANAYNAY]can't we all just fuck and get along?
[/quote] Great idea, Friend.
real members? - - You've struck on an interesting topic. I call them cyber swingers. They are swinger wanna be's . They find the thought of swinging erotic and interesting but they don't have the balls to actually get involved in the lifestyle. They like to hide behind the safety of their computer screen. They'll exchange email with you as long as you're willing or dumb enough to keep writing them. They'll never actually meet you or anyone else. That would be way too personal and would force them to crawl out from behind the security of their computer. Or you ocasionally run into the single guy that has created this fictional "couple". It's all a big game for him. He's just there to collect photos or maybe trick someone into playing with him because his wifes is "unavailable " at the moment. Whatever their game they're all the same because they both violate the principles of honesty and trust that the lifestyle revolves on.
We get email all the time from couples that "have read your profile--think you guys are great and want to get to know you better". That generally sends off alarm bells for us. We'll respond and exchange an email or two. If the other couple doesn't have pics posted or pics of just one of them we ask for additional photos in the first email. Since we have good pics of both of us in our profile we never send any other pics other than those posted. If we get the "don't have any pics of him or he's camera shy or don't have a camera yet" or any one of the other lame excuses we've gotten over the past year or so--that's it--you're done as far as we're concerned. We'll give out our cell phone number right away and tell them to call us or give us theirs and we'll call them. We want to speak to both of them. If we can't because one's not there we'll call back at a more convenient time when we can talk to both of them. If everything seems ok during the conversation we'll make a date to meet at a convenient restaurant or club and take things from there. This seems to work well for us. It tends to weed out the "cyber swinger" right away.
John & Colleen
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