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Do you mix your vanilla and lifestyle friends? - - We tell anyone who is a late night friend, ie: serious friend, vanilla or not that we have an alternative lifestyle. It has made things so much easier. Our vanilla friends are closer. We make it very clear that we don't have any interest in sex with them for concerns about ruining what is a already a good relationship. I am not talking, work vanillas, they don't need to know. I am talking about people with whom we go dancing or bar hopping. Why lie about who you really are? The whole reason for jumping the hurdle that is the "lifestyle" is to be free with who you really are. Then you are supposed to hide it with people who are supposed to really care about you? Nope.
Because of this, it is really cute when we throw a party or get together. The vanillas spend the whole time excitedly trying to guess who the swingers are. Most of the time it doesn't take much to guess. This reminds me of what got us started on this course. We threw a mostly vanilla roller skating party with some vanilla friends. They invited a whole bunch of people and we invited a whole bunch of people. We invited 3 couples who were swingers who did not know or probably didn't care to hide what they were. The vanilla couple invited once swinger couple totally unaware that they were swingers. We got very outed that night. lol It went really well so it carried over as a "good idea".
Piper
Why are single guys being band from all the upcoming parties? - Did some clown out there mess it up for all single males? - Our group, (Tampa Bay Lifestylers), has a handful of single males. They are a select few. These guys are known around the area as decent respectable guys. They know how to work a room without "COCK BLOCKING" or pissing in anyone's corn flakes because they pay attention to the room. Most are smart enough to sort of lay back and watch. They know that all the couples or single women that ARE looking for a SM to join in will ask (if they don't already know), if there are SM's there. Our group does not play on the premise that (I AM GETTING LAID NO MATTER WHAT), and the guys know this. So none of these guys feel the need to push anyone. They also realize there will be more parties and that everyone is comfortable with them at a party they will be invited back again and again..
There are WAY more BI women in the lifestyle and this usually means that married guys are more likely to stand there. This makes for even less room for single men as well. COUPLES, (Which is where SWINGING came from), are more frequently looking for additional WOMEN to join in, thus brings in the single woman. Yes, there are the peeps looking for a single man to join or just take the wife away for play alone, but it is far less frequent. Therefore most groups and clubs are allowing all single women and only a few single men..
I have also heard couples talking about removing SM all together from parties and clubs. My thoughts are simple but controversial. I think SWINGING is a COUPLES thing. All singles are just dating or becoming "SWINGERS" to just plain get laid.. To me, and don't get pissy, if I were a single man and could get away with joining the SWINGER WORLD, I would do it in a minute because most in the lifestyle are in it SOLELY for sex.. Like a drunk working in a bar.
Just a note for you single guys. Sit back and watch. Don't be pushy or try to impress women with your job or your possessions. They DON'T give a SHIT about what you do or where you live or your HARLEY. If they are interested in you it is all about your body and your COCK!!! So try laying back and letting them come to you. I know this works VERY VERY WELL for my single male buddy..
another club under fire - club in peoria - [quote=CARRIERMANANDGEEKGIRL]Obviously, the Peoria city fathers have never heard of the Constitution.
#1. - It's a PRIVATE club, which means it's not open to the general public.
#2. - Nothing that happens inside is within view of the general public.
#3. - The club's proximity to the police station has NOTHING to do with ANYTHING.
#4. - Swinging and/or swapping partners is NOT illegal.
It will be really interesting to see what the exact wording of the ordinance is.
It will also be laughable.
[b]FLASH:[/b] "Consenting adults arrested for having consensual sex behind closed doors."
Film at 11:00.[/quote]
I always forget how spoiled ya'll in Florida are...Constitution or not they can and will shut this place down...look at Utah...we have NO swingers clubs and as of now Ogden has no strip clubs...talk about conservative...oh wait, I DON'T LIVE IN UTAH ANYMORE...roflmao I keep forgetting that lol
Naughty Nature/Kinky Campout - Information please - We are new to the camping experience but would love to give it a try with experienced campers and swingers.
Where on Earth are all the hot Virginia Swingers? - Show us what you have to offer VA!!! - stafford were here had a great time last night,K+M
Brest implants - - I love my breasts! I got 450cc silicon under the muscle about 2 years ago and never regretted it. I didnt get a lift and I dont know how much scarring that has, but my scars from the implants aren't bad. The incisional scars are about 1 inch wide. I was very worried about scarring myself, but I think the small scars are worth the huge boost I got in my self esteem. I had nice breasts before, just a little small. But now they are perfect. My only wish is that I would have gone 50cc bigger, but anything is bigger than what I had before. I look so good in everything I wear now because I have cleavage and curves. My breasts look and feel real. I have had strangers (swingers at parties and people at topless beaches) that come up to me and say that they are too perfect to be real. I have had husbands come say that their wife wants implants but they dont want their wife to get them because they hate fake breasts, but seeing mine made them change their mind. Funny, cause that is how I talked my husband into getting on board (saw a topless girl with perfect breasts in south beach). I think the most important factors are 1)to make sure you do it for the right reasons, (mainly that YOU want it done and are not doing it for anyone else), and 2) to make sure you get a good dr. My dr actually did my mom's breasts 20 years ago and her's still look great and I knew he had a lot of experience, so that is why i went with him. I have seen some bad breast jobs though, so definately make sure you see the dr's work beforehand. Anyway, hope this helps.
Adult Vacation Recomendations - We need some help what to do or where to go! - [quote=KRAZYGIRL]So here is a perfect deal for ya.
There is a group of 20 or so people from here going on a cruise in feb and it will go to Putreo Rico. And swingers.lol
Leaves on Feb 7th for a week.
It has all of the items you wanted and more. But time from kids is so much in need at times, just need to be an adult. [/quote]Can you also email us information on this Cruise & how long it will be we are very interested thank's
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Nobody in the lifestyle is there typically on Saturdays. Every Friday night they are there (we were last night). It looks like a hallway. Walk in and follow the hallway you will get asked for ID. Right next to lucky slice pizza.
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - I'm 51 she is 49 and we get all the pussy/cock that we want it is not age that counts its more about personality and keeping fit helps too.
We realize we do not appeal to the younger crowd and thats O.K. as we have found alot more open minded cpls in the over 40 range but we also have swing friends in the late 20's to mid 30 crowd too. Age is NOT a factor in all peoples mind only ones who THINK they are never going to grow old we have news for them its GOING to happen to them too.
Help With Wife - Wife has fantasies but is super hesitant to experiment. - Meet N Greets. Nobody will be playing right there at the event, no automatic expectation that you're there to actually hook up, etc. Don't expect to NOT ever get approached by anyone, but the expectation that you're there to play, like there is at most house parties and many other swinger events, won't be the case at a Meet N Greet. You can meet and get to know people just like you would at any vanilla gathering, except that you'll know that the people you meet either are or have a desire to be in the lifestyle. As for that catch 22, don't worry about it. Yeah, hooking up with a vanilla friend or friends would likely have some impact on the friendship one way or another, likely not a good one. And it could even be dangerous, depending on how important it is to your life that people in general don't know you swing (assuming that you eventually do swing, that is). But your wife will find that ending up playing with people you've become friends with is pretty unlikely to ruin the friendship when those people are swingers.
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