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IS it me or is UTah The place to be if your a swinger? - Utah and swinging - After being on this site for a few days, I have noticed alot of the active members are from Utah. :$: :p Is it the fact that this site is largely based there or is Utah A crazy Fun swingers state?

City Cracking Down On Sex Parties - - Adam, It's acceptable to be intolerant of bigotry and oppression. ;) As for your lengthy rant, sorry dude you rambled too long. I lost interest. Try to stick to one idea at a time. I mean that with respect and no offense. It's just too difficult to reply to all of that, when it's so all over the place like that. Flatlander, I am not the one arguing. LOL! Spare me your personal remarks. You don't know me. Again, the article says that the city is trying to find anything they can to shut them down. That tells me that they are trying to find any excuse to shut them down. If parking were the only issue, the remedy would be simple. Park everyone remotely in a central location and VAN them in. I don't think it's the only issue. The only other issue is moral and where do morals come from??? Here's a little quote from the article: "When I bought my house, I didn't think I'd be living next to a massage parlor and brothel." What would it matter if there was a brothel or massage parlor in a neighborhood? Prostitution is wrong because Christians say it's wrong. In countries where Christianity isn't allowed to taint government, they have redlight districts. There is plenty of evidence in the article that points at the religious motivation. Another quote for ya.

Equal Treatmeat for all singles - singles - There are a lot of good points that have been made but the reality of it is this, whether you want to believe it or not. Swingers are in this lifestyle for the fun. The majority of swingers are couples and some would even argue that you have to be a couple to be considered a swinger but that's another topic. Swingers are here to connect with others whether for sex or friendship. If it is for sex, it is for the fun of sex to enjoy with other like minded people. Some choose to have this sex with other couples, some choose to have this sex with single males or single females. We all have the right to choose. If we choose not to have sex with single males, it doesn't mean we have some sort of trust or self-confidence issues, it just means it's not what we want to do. Same with couples or single females. Yes, single men are a dime a dozen and that is where the problem lies. There are thousands and thousands of single men who enter this lifestyle and most of them do it because of the sex. They have no understanding of or respect for the lifestyle and so their actions give the ones who do a bad name. So with that said, let's say the percentage of bad single men compared to non is 95%. Now, that doesn't mean there are some bad single women or bad couples. But let's put this into perspective. The number of single women in this lifestyle is a very, very small percentage. Yet, let's say the percent of bad single women compared to non is only 5%. And couples, well, they are already a couple with both a guy and a girl and they are already given a free pass into the lifestyle because, well, they are a couple so we'll leave them out of this equation. So now you have two different seals. The Real Seal and the VIP Seal. They both serve a similar purpose; to show that you have somehow proven that you are a real person or couple. The difference is that the VIP which stands for Validated In Person can only be given out by an admin or local host. And the person holding the VIP is the only person other than an admin or local host that can issue a REAL seal. Make sense? Now, as a single male in that 95%, what do you care most about? Probably getting laid and seeing as many pictures as you can. After trying unsuccessfully to get people to send you pictures or give you access to their private photo albums, you decide to create a fake profile as a single female or couple. What are your chances of creating that profile and getting someone to show you their private collection? Better, but not by much because a lot of couples will not show them to you unless you have a REAL or VIP seal. So it deters them from becoming picture collectors. But wait, if that single male was able to somehow get a VIP seal on his single male profile, he could now validate his own fake profile as REAL and raise his chances of seeing more private albums and faking his way on this site. Now you tell me who is more likely going to fake a profile. A couple? A single female? or a single male? I'll tell you who, it's not going to be a couple or a single female because that is what most people are looking for so why would they need to? It's a sad reality but it's reality. And that is why we have the seals in the first place, otherwise, why would we need them? Now for parties and such, the reason why single females are mostly allowed and single men are not is for similar reasons as mentioned earlier. You have more single guys interested in this lifestyle than single women and it's more likely you would have 100 single men at a party and only a handful of women. As a couple, especially a new couple, that's pretty intimidating and out of those 100 single men, if 95% of them had no respect for the lifestyle, what are the chances that something bad could happen? Even if it was only 20%, the chances of some single male ruining it for the rest is pretty high? Get my point? So that is why you rarely see parties that allow single men. And it really sucks for those singles who are gentlemen. Again, it's a sad reality but it's reality. For all you single men out there who are in this lifestyle for the right reasons, keep doing what you are doing and someone will notice you. There are plenty of people looking for single men but you have to make yourself stand out from the crowd. Be patient and don't try too hard and eventually it will come to you. I hope this sheds a little light on this subject. These percentages may not be exact but it's a close scenario. I've been in this lifestyle for a very long time and some of that was as a single male so I know both sides. It's not being discriminatory, it's what has to be done to protect the main people in this lifestyle and that's the couple. Unfortunately, because of that, the single male gets the short end of the stick. But it has to happen, otherwise you would scare off the majority of couples interested in this lifestyle and without them, you have no one to meet in the first place. You might as well just post an ad on a regular dating site if that was the case.

Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - I love dvp the bigger the better the more the marrier

Swingers Vacation Spots - Help us - Our dream swingers vacation would have be in mexico,there are several resorts there that cater to the swinging lifestyle. They are all inclusive as well. We are planning a trip to hedo next yr and when I went to their site there was a schedule of times when it was swingers mostly. Sometimes travel agents know these things try calling one that isn't your reg agent if you are worried about them knowing you are in the lifestyle. Here in Fl we have one that caters to the lifestyle out of orlando if anyone wants to know how to contact them hit us up we will send their link. Jimmy and Becky

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Just saw a commercial for KUTV's and the Salvation Army's annual Angel Tree charity for providing Xmas gifts for the poor and needy. Wouldn't it be fun to support this effort by adopting some angels in the name of Utah's swinging community? Hell, we could even provide some kick ass sex toys for some shut in widow or something. I'm betting a few ladies here might know which toys work the best. [em]Emo_12[/em]

KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - [quote=NEWCOUPLE4FUN]So, Heidi has been stalking this thread... Sweet, please friend us :) We can share stories about how your other "news" friends chose to partake, but not publicize. Your story portrayed a woman forced into the lifestyle. Anyone forced should get out immediately. That is just wrong. The woman "shown" was not a willing participant and was being abused. It's sad that this was not the focus. Abuse in any form is wrong. She could have just as easily been sold on craigslist to spice it up. This was a very poor excuse for journalism. Good luck with your next "story." I'm sure this site thanks you for the free publicity though. Bring in the new recruits, as long as they are adults and making their own decisions...[/quote] There's little journalism here in Utah; it's about driving views whose numbers can be used for ad revenue. Titillation drives views. The curiosity gap ("You won't believe what happens next!") drives views. Informing is never considered necessary, only attracting views and/or clicks. There are hungry children in every county of this state but a salacious and sexxxay story is what they choose to put on the news? Useless entertainment masquerading as a higher purpose.

Swingers gone bad?? - - Ummmmm.....That CAN'T be good.......

Hot discussion - Hook up section? - lmao, some of the worst things I've seen and heard came from married people, both men & women. I know a complete and utter hotty that hates swingers, and the way they treat women, so she refuses to interact with them. And she's interacted with a LOT of married swingers.

At what point do you out yourselves to family and friends?? - - I really don't think it makes that big a difference. What ever you are comfortable with is what you should do. Me personally, I let the people I work with that we are swingers, after they had guessed. Didn't see any reason to lie to them. Hell I was hoping to get in the pants of a couple of them. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.