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Married & single? - single minded affrairs? -
It is a double standard. We have meet several couples that would never consider a cheating guy, but would a cheating woman. I think some people ignore the double standard because of the Law of scarcity.
Married/relationship bound men that are exploring without their spouse are no different from Single men has been our experience.
If anyone Male or Female is having a sexual or emotional relationship without their primary partner's knowledge then they are cheating. It's not a matter of the quality or quantity or even if the partner had suspicions or not. It's a matter of trust which they are breaking by having a relationship that their partner would not approve of.
And yes the Law of Scarcity is accepted by many swingers in regard to a female wanting to explore.....including us.
How much is too much - The right protocol? - I would think that there are a few issues here.
1. If you haven't talked or chatted with any of these folks you've sent a fr to, or at least sent a message along with the fr, they may just delete it. That's what we do.
2. If they do approve in these cases, they could just be doing it so they can go in and view your private pics then delete the friend and then you can't view theirs. Kinda chickenshit in my opinion.
3. You age could be hinder some to take you seriously as swingers because I have noticed that although everyone likes young women, some feel that the younger couples are not mature enough to be swingers.
Anyway you look at it, it might serve you well to chat with some people a bit before sending requests. And if they don't like you, fuck em'. Give us a shout and we will be your friends. :)
seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - WELL DEPENDING ON WHAT PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU ARE IN DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TACT YOU HAVE. THESE ARE THE THING WE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE EVER WE GO. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION WHEN SOME ONE ASK SUCH A QUESTION AS THIS AND REMEMBER THEY GET TO VOTE FRIST, SO THAT TELL YOU ALOT AND THEY ARE A RED STATE WHICH SAYS EVEN MORE.SO TACT IS NOT A MATTER OF WEATHER THEY HAVE IT OR NOT IT IS JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE IN THAT PART OF THE WORLD,NEEDLESSS TO SAY IT IS NOT PART OF THERE VOCABULARY SO WE ASSUME THEY DONT HAVE ANY.JUST LIKE THEY HAVE NO "R" IN THERE EITHER. BUT THE OLD ADDAGE IS GET TO THE POINT AND ONE OR TWO THING WILL HAPPEN YOU WILL GET LAID OR GET SLAPPED. LOL
STD/STI Testing - - [quote=TOKI_WARTOOTH][quote=MAYBEMOR]This is the attitude we find so prevalent!!!
Play on to your hearts content. [/quote]
We can be tested regularly and play safe without being a paranoid little jackwagon. Maybe the attitude you have is why your postings got deleted off other sites.[/quote]
No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better.
I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes!
Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!!
The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone!
Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid?
PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse).
I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.
Real Swingers Nasty Play Party Saturday the 14th - Cum meet couples that like to play in Draper - Start time is 8pm we hope to have you cumm
Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Thank you SNS2N1, you have hit the nail on the head and we truly appreciated your posting. For all who have not read it, please do.
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - would love a place to go to where everybody knows my name
1. Would you attend a swingers club in Salt Lake?
oh heck yeah!
2. If so, how often would you attend?
bi-weekly, possibly weekly
3. What types of things would you like to see at the club? I.e., play rooms, dance floor, activities, etc.
main=dance floor, pool tables, decent bar food, good mixed drink, regular bar atmosphere
open to SF SM couples
back room (champagne room) = strippers, private dancers
open to SF SM couples
private room (VIP lounge)= for play, participate or not
open to SF couples
4. What types of things have you seen at other clubs that you liked/disliked?
it has to look classy and be clean
5. What do you feel would be a fair entrance fee?
membership fee for SF couples
single males.. are not allowed membership, entrance granted or denied at time of arrival at the door
non member, a standard cover charge that is comparable to other similar venues
addtl fees to upgrade to the "champagne room" (where the strippers, private dancers are)
slighty higher addtl fee to upgrade to the VIP lounge (playroom)
Swingers Party Club - Sin City Resort - Does anyone have any Intel on Sin City Resort and Swingers Party Club? They seem to have recently showed up in the Vegas Swinger scene and we don't know what to expect.
Thanks
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays! - - Merry Christmas to all on the State-side! (we hail from Ogden, normally) We've met a lot of awesome swingers in Utah and hope to meet even more in the future when we return. XOXO!
How close is too close - - FITZNBELINDA
Actually, swinging will very quickly bring out and magnify flaws in a relationship, even in good relationships. The difference is that a good relationship/marriage will use this info to increase the trust and communications and make that relationship stronger.
You asked about swingers as compared to the general public... The divorce rate in the general public is between 66 and 77% depending on which figures you are looking at.. THis is both for 1st and 2nd marriages. Approx 70% of all married people, both male and females, in the general public, now will admit to extramarital affairs. Since extramarital sex is the essence of swinging that is not an issue but marriages in the swinging community are stable approximately 85% of the time or only 15% of swingers marriages fail... as compared with 75% failure in the general public... In other words non swingers are 340% more likely to get divorced than swigners... or 3.4 times as likely.
Respect is one thing but sometimes Stuff just happens. We don't ask for it we are not open for it but still it still happens.... My love for others has no effect on my wife and my relationship.. She understand who I will be going home with and that I don't wish to cause others grief.. If people are honest with themselves as well as others and you respect people enough to understand what's going on and care about their feelings you just walk away before any damage is done...
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