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Swingers in a vanilla bar... - - @JSTJIM72 - OK - so if they say 'no' - just how would you explain a swingers type of bar / club to someone who's vanilla? If it was you, and you were approached in a vanilla bar, how would the converastion go?
Swingers clubs in Amsterdam - - The best club I've been to in that area is called Fun 4 Two. It's huge. The facilities are upscale European, hidden inside a rural setting. The hot tub seats about 20 comfortably & is comparable to genuine Roman baths that I've seen in Italy. The food is pretty good. The play rooms are varied & numerous. The place is well kept. Parking is safe. The neighborhood is good. The overnight accommodations are limited in number, but excellent. The clientele was about 50% Dutch, 20% German, 10% French & 20% other. I was probably the only American there. English was spoken by about 80% of the people there, when needed. I think that the drive was roughly 45 minutes from downtown Amsterdam if you don't get lost. Bring a GPS if you go. They have different themes on different weekends & I think that new applicants are only allowed 3 of the 4 weekends per month. Check their website for details. The first time I was there, the place was an absolute blast. The last time, it had become a little more edgy, but was still very good. The owners/hosts (Laurens & Renika) are good people. Deal with them directly whenever possible. Try to arrive properly dressed. If you need to buy things from their in-house shop to make dress code at the last minute, it can get expensive.
I also went to another club in Amsterdam proper that was said to be a swing club. It was actually a brothel inside a bar. I didn't stay to play.
There is a club there called Fatima Morgana that sounded promising, but I have not had time to try it yet. Another place called Kasteel Waterloo was recommended to me & sounds very promising, but I have not been there yet either. That place is probably a much longer drive.
In Amsterdam, there are at least 3 classifications of sex clubs. The actual swingers clubs are called parren clubs.
If you need help finding accommodations, transportation, or any of the other usual types of travel assistance, you can go to the tourist office, marked VVV, but pronounced "fee fee fee". One is located in Schipol airport. Another is located at the train station in Amsterdam. The people there were very helpful & found us very good deals on everything that we needed.
Please let me know if you need more information. I travel to Europe often & know my way around fairly well.
Swingers Rock Club - Live music, Dancing, and Sexy Friends - This weekend baby. See you at the party!
Verified "Real" People - - [quote=CNKISS]The funny double standard is we have watched couples and guys jump all over a girl who is cheating and is just "unfulfilled" but a guy who does it is a cheating asshat douchebag...which in truth they are both cheaters! [/quote]
I agree. I wonder if some excuse them for cheating because they are so rare. I bet if they were as easy to find as men they would also be held to account.
Here's an idea. If we discover cheaters, let's just tell them to go to AshleyMadison.com and leave the swinging to the honest people.
Yes, I know not all Swingers are honest or think it is our place to judge. I disagree. We always make judgments for what is acceptable to us and what is not. Swinging is about honest fun and cheaters are not being honest, so why should we include them? The suggestion is only for those of us who want honesty. Think about this, if there was no honesty swinging would cease to exist.
Lifestyles Survey by Dr.Ziggy - - This is currently on Dr. Ziggy's website. It only took a few minutes to actually complete. Have fun!
Mr. CARESS4U
Title: The Swinging Paradigm: A Demographic and Behavioural Inventory of Swingers
MSNBC Article on Swingers - actually a positive one :) - This was a great one! To bad her husband flacked out on her maybe she coul dhave experinced it all!
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Okay but we're gonna put Heidi Hatch's name on the gift tag for the doggie sex doll. [em]Emo_12[/em]
Open relationship - Any couples with a friend (male or female) to play with your partner anytime? - I have to agree with UTCPL 100%. Swingers Lifestyle is not about having sex on your own with another person.
real members? - - You've struck on an interesting topic. I call them cyber swingers. They are swinger wanna be's . They find the thought of swinging erotic and interesting but they don't have the balls to actually get involved in the lifestyle. They like to hide behind the safety of their computer screen. They'll exchange email with you as long as you're willing or dumb enough to keep writing them. They'll never actually meet you or anyone else. That would be way too personal and would force them to crawl out from behind the security of their computer. Or you ocasionally run into the single guy that has created this fictional "couple". It's all a big game for him. He's just there to collect photos or maybe trick someone into playing with him because his wifes is "unavailable " at the moment. Whatever their game they're all the same because they both violate the principles of honesty and trust that the lifestyle revolves on.
We get email all the time from couples that "have read your profile--think you guys are great and want to get to know you better". That generally sends off alarm bells for us. We'll respond and exchange an email or two. If the other couple doesn't have pics posted or pics of just one of them we ask for additional photos in the first email. Since we have good pics of both of us in our profile we never send any other pics other than those posted. If we get the "don't have any pics of him or he's camera shy or don't have a camera yet" or any one of the other lame excuses we've gotten over the past year or so--that's it--you're done as far as we're concerned. We'll give out our cell phone number right away and tell them to call us or give us theirs and we'll call them. We want to speak to both of them. If we can't because one's not there we'll call back at a more convenient time when we can talk to both of them. If everything seems ok during the conversation we'll make a date to meet at a convenient restaurant or club and take things from there. This seems to work well for us. It tends to weed out the "cyber swinger" right away.
John & Colleen
questions,thoughts, opinions, - Cousins, or family at parties together? - Lol so it sounds like we all need to have a swingers family reunion and instead of swapping wives we all swap, families. Lol
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