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Extramarital Affairs and the Lifestyle - Where do you stand? - **Bottom line here is can we just stop all the finger pointing, labeling, and judging? Morals are a personal thing and eveyone is entitled to theirs and I\'m of the mind set...don\'t force yours down my throat and I won\'t force mind down yours.**
Wrong. No one is interested in passing judgement here. Simply stating the facts as they are.
Also, I think that some of us have returned to the cheating vs swingnig morality issue that we agreed earlier was NOT the intended direction this thread was going in. The issue IS a moral one, as someone pointed out. However it isnt whether or not CHEATING is the same as SWINGING.
Since the thread has been joined by so many other now (AND I THANK YOU GUYS FOR STEPPING UP AND SHARING!) several differing points of view have emerged.
Some \"vanilla\" or traditional people attempt to convince their mates to swing (MALE OR FEMALE) and for whatever eason that partner says NO. That person can not accept this answer for whatever reason, and decides it is worth risking everything they hold dear to swing.
We have explored that.
On the other hand, other \"vanilla\" people HAVE NEVER, AND WOULD NEVER EVEN ATTEMPT TO BROACH THE SUBJECT TO THEIR MATES. For fear of hearing NO, for fear of divorce...whatever...These same people, as one of our single gentleman pointed out...would look down upon us and label us sinners for being \"SWINGERS\" and all that they quite incorrectly feel that entails, and then in the same breath, go out and CHEAT on their mates. (I know one where she cheated on her husband with the pasteur of their church!)
Cheating is actually more accpetable than swinging to a LOT of \"vanilla\" people. To share their mate, agree on the format, and practice an open dialogue about it is unthinkable.
To cheat is not.
>>TO ADDRESS THE CHEATING SWINGER ISSUE AGAIN<<
This was never meant to single out you single guys out there, and I am not going to defend this post, or our stand on it. If you have read our profile, you should understand that we date single men and women almost exclusively! We just prefer to know the TRUTH about your situation, and beleive it or not, in this lifestyle...that is a tall order.
As someone else said, that is a choice each of you has to make. We would prefer to know the truth about your situation so that we can decide to say NO for fear of creating hurt feelings and contributing to the end of a relationship that we are not even a part of. My mind will not allow me to justify what my heart knows to be just plain wrong.
Luvbugs!
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Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Don & Tami aka SGT and SPC Cole,
We'll go in order here with the few things we have to say.
1. As an active duty career military family, our hearts go out to our fallen brothers/sisters and their families.
2. Your response could not have been worded any better. Kudos!
3. As for the Don Juan issue, this might take a minute. I've read a lot here about "protecting his rights to speak his opinion" and the like. I agree to an extent, but this dude rides so far out on the left wing that we might just be able to label him as a "domestic enemy." Myself and many other members of this site are sworn to protect this country from the like. I propose that Don Juan reveal his true identity and we deal with him accordingly. Not only for the shoving of his misguided opinions, but for using profanity in the direction of my wife in a forum and an email (yes, I remember and will not soon forget).
V/R
Chris & Dawn aka CW2 and the Mrs.
Swingers gone bad?? - - I can't or wwon't take the moral high ground here. I believe what was done was legally wrong. I was having sex by age 12 and knew what I was doing then. Was I legally competant??? According to statutes then and now, I was too young to make a good judgement. Did these boys or any others boys ever need alcohol to get into the mood to have sex??? Legally they did wrong.... If the boys were 10, 9 maybe even 11 maybe then they sould be too young to participate...
Now people taking the moral high ground........ Is swinging morally right? The lifestyle is sometimes called a fringe thing. It's not illegal according to the law but there are those who say that morality says that sharing each other with someone outside of the marriage is wrong. For those of you in Utah.... Polygamy, polygyny and polyandry is wrong... Actually the state had to outlaw the practice of having more than one wife or they wouldn't have gotten statehood. So they used the term Polyegemy or having more than one wife or having more than one husband at the same time. Polygyny is having more than one wife at the same time. It is illegal in most states for either of these 3 states or conditions to exist or to participate in.
I guess what I'm saying is, Are swingers morally upright or righteous enough to make the moral judgement on these people. Certainly, what they did was illegal but.... 50 years ago what we do today would have gotten us ousted from the community, church, loss of job (and that could still happen today) and maybe even jailed, under the right circumstances..
So, before we cast the first stone let us be certain that we are righteous or that we are well outside of our glass house.
Moab Utah - Swingers in Moab - Just got back...
Christain Swingers? - - We just wanted to add what we wrote was our personal feelings and yes it's a open wound in our lives. If you can have peace with the two that's a great thing, the last thing we want to do is take you away from it or plant doubts.
Swinging and being In Christ just will not fit with our back ground and how we were taught. We both really wish we could let that go, but we can't as it's too ingrained. Despite the fact that we now know we were taught man twisted lies and distortions of scripture, the whole thing has left such a bad taste in our mouths that we could not even attend more "moderate" churches with out the wounds being opened.
What mostly wanted to say is this is our expeirence and we didn't mean to offend any one. It's just how we feel.
It is a very interesting topic and we have enjoyed reading all the posts.
Thanks
A&D
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - As an open couple i can say its not abnormal to find that alot of people are NOT what they say they are.. Take us for the ride of your life... We CAN promise no drama and lots of naked times... We are here not to find friends but to have sex and if the people we fuck end up as friends then so be it and if not then thanks for the sex hehehe... We have time on our hands and would NEVER do that to another couple or person...
What's the universal swinger signal? - How can you spot a swinger?? - This is the place to get them.... they are swingers too!!!
www.7946437.com
Just in case you didn't know it the 7946437 is actually the word swinger on your cell phone keys...
Meeting new swingers? - Where to meet them? - Tired or bars besides the internet where do you recommend to meet new swingers in a small town? Any Ideas? And no not wal-mart lol
Who is going to Younge swingers week HEDO? - anyone going? - You know we are, Shadow. Can't wait. I call dibs on blowing a raspberry on J's naked ass.
Game ON....which sign is Hornier...(is that a word?) - zodiac signs of swingers? - we are a pair of libras
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