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Difficult in finding Couples or single Males/ Females - - Hawkeye we know what you mean seems as though the cpls you are compatible with always seem to live far away we have plenty of swingers in our part of the country but most think we are too old for them we look in better shape than those who say we are too old lol. Hell we still both snow ski and even do a black run on occasion who is calling who old lol. Wish we lived closer to all of you who have added us to friends list and have said wish we could meet who knows maybe some day we will ski your neck of the woods not meaning you Hawkeye we know you have no snow but if we ever head your direction we will be sure to let you know :-)Good luck in finding close compatible cpls. Norm&Sharon

Christain Swingers? - - I think overall Religion has a poor track record when it comes to morallity. That is one of the reasons there are so many divisions in christianity. Often,when someone wants to justify their veiw on an issue they use religious interpitation to back it, some have even started new religions or branches of their previos religion to accomidate their position. Wars have been fought , people persecuted, tortured and put to death in the name of religion, and it still occurs on this very day. I remember a statement, said to be made by Jesus Christ: "He who has not sinned cast the first stone". I think the person about to be stoned was accused of adultry. One of his close followers and friends was a prostitute. He went to the temple to tell the holier than thou, they were missing the point, and if I recall he was said to have given his sermons in the streets, and roads to anyone who wanted to listen. Karl Marx (I do not believe in Communism) refered to religion as the "opium of the people". I think he may have been on to something. I had 12yrs of religious study in Catholic grade & high school and I think rather than brain washing me it opened my eyes up to the contradictions in religion. I think you have to step away from religion to be really objective, when looking at the morality of any issue. I feel a persons faith and beliefs are a personal and individual thing. Organized religion can often pollute your judgement, if you let it. If you can step away from it and look objectively at your choices in life, you may also find there is still room for you to step back in, and find a place for yourself in its boundries, also. I think like COTA has experienced, religion has let a lot of us down in one way or another. It is up to each of us to make up our own minds, when it comes to matters of faith and morality. Personally I don't think religion should cast stones.

Sexy swingers closer to our age - 20-30 year old sexy swingers - 30m, currently single but with unicorn and couple friends I do things with. When there isn't a pandemic going on I usually host a monthly-ish naughty game night for our core group plus anybody we find who wants to join us. Group is usually mid-twenties to mid-thirties age-wise, with a leaning towards dancers and nerds. Let me know if you want an invite down the road :)

2 Year Anniversary Party for Swingers in Knoxville,Tn. - BYOB, On-premise Swingers Party - Destiny's 2 Year Anniversary Party Saturday night, March 11th 8pm until ??? Quality Inn Motel Callahan Road Exit #110 2nd Floor Meeting rooms (above Lobby) BYOB, On-premise, with decorations throughout the dancing, eating, and seating area. Private play areas and open play areas are sectioned off for your fun and games. We have several games to play, if you like strip poker, strip bingo, or toss the rings around the 3' inflated cock, and we have two other games people like to play also, called "pin the cock on the stud, and pin the boobs on the gal". Guarantee you'll enjoy yourself and have fun while you're there. Rules and guidelines are posted on the web sites for more information. http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinyssocials/index.html http://www.webspawner.com/users/destinytw39/index.html There is a door donation to attend. Hope to see you there!!! Take Care, Play Safe, and Enjoy Life......Tammy

Frustration with Friend Requests - - The underlying problem is the "we're swingers, you're swingers" mindset. We've been around the scene for a long time and met many many people who don't understand why we won't just fuck them...afterall, they're swingers and we're swingers...so let's just fuck already. This "hobby" is for fantasy fulfillment. If you aren't at least a little bit attracted to someone for any reason then what the hell is the point of fucking them? Especially when most of us can stay home and have WAY better sex with someone we love.

Black Ring, Right Hand - How to tell if someone's a swinger - [quote=jv666playful]Okay if we a set what is the best way to confirm that the others swing also or should we have a secret language as well[/quote] Unfortunately, there's no good answer to this.. you'll have to go out on a limb at some point... However, if you see a couple out, together, BOTH wearing black rings on the right hand, it's pretty much a given. If you're TOO coy about it, their first instinct will be to deny.. I'd just come right out and ask.. "Hey, love the black rings.. are you guys swingers?"

Small town fun - - Small towns suck for swingers unless you like to see alot.

Are we really as judgmental as vanilla people? - - [i][b]In answer to the OP, YES. Swingers are just as judgemental if not more so than the vanilla people that we live with. The Lifestyle is just a smaller version of the regular world. And because there are less people in it, it may actually seem like the predjudices are more pronounced. All you can really do, is the same thing that you'd do in regular society...try to avoid the assholes. Cinnamon[/b][/i]

STD/STI Testing - - [quote=ABCWOMAN]No, Toki, you are the Jackwagon! The way you responded to this thread is an obvious display of your lack of intelligence about this issue. Maybemor and others are just attempting to make this lifestyle a little safer for all involved. Not sure if you read much but there was a situation recently in Kansas City where a man and his wife were HIV Positive and managed to put a number of people at risk of contracting HIV, and these are supposedly "swingers" who know better. I've been to parties for over 4 years!! Not everyone uses condoms. Maybe you do! But even a condom isn't going to protect you against Herpes!! You always use latex with oral sex Toki.. hmm... probably not.. and guess what, you are putting yourself at risk for Herpes! Even if you get tested for Herpes you still are at risk. You could have contracted it on the weekend, go in on Monday get tested, the whole gamut of tests, get negatives on everything. Then two to three weeks later you come down with itchy bumps that turn into sores, oh shit, guess what.. yep.. you just were infected and are now positive for Herpes.. Why.. because you don't get it!!! The reason we need more people to talk about this is people are getting STD's on this site and others like it. I applaud Rob and his willingness to do what some of you may think is not needed. Toki is a prime example of why you don't play with just anyone! Sure you can't stop everything all the time, and frankly anytime you have sex with multiple partners it's a risk. But let's not be stupid folks, let's be careful. You only have this life to live, why fuck it up for yourself and the one you love because you are stupid? PS.. I wrote a long post a few months ago about our own experience with the STD issue. I received a number of posts about others who carry HSV2. Interesting thing is some of these people who have HSV2, DO NOT always tell their potential partners they have the disease. Why? PURE IGNORANCE or just they don't give a shit (which is worse). I want to make sure everyone knows, this is MR ABC who is writing this post.[/quote] Again, the voice of reason. (((K))) Do we need to remind people that if they don't want to read about a subject on the forum they do not have to click on it? But in the meantime, until all potential risks from having sex are wiped out, reminders to get tested, practice safe sex, and having open dialogues are not going anywhere. If it reading about hits a nerve perhaps you seriously need to ask yourself WHY. And then GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. Kudos to MM for posting this. xox Tammy

Evil's latest poll. Fellas, would you ever... - - [quote=EVILDOERS][quote=EVILDOERS][quote=POUNDCAKE]ditto that. I would sooner lick diamonds out of a tigers ass.[/quote] Yeah? Hmmmm I'm as hetero as the next guy but I think dick would HAVE to taste better than tiger shit. But then I don't really like poop in my mouth. And for KRAZYGIRL...yeah chicks do it for me too...and guys don't. Just kinda tryin' to make a point about how silly it is for some of us to be so afraid of another guy's dick when as swingers we're supposedly sexual libertines. I actually posted this as a poll on another older and much bigger swing site. The responses (all anonymous...hint, hint Swingular!) have been extremely interesting. [/quote][/quote] I kind of thought to each their own was the point. I wish I had followed my gut and not responded to your post. I will not make that mistake again. I certainly won't be apologetic for a sexual preference. Nobody should be. With the comments I have read about homophobia I am pretty certain some people don't even know what the definition is.