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Swingers dying out? - Is the utah swinger community dying or becoming to needy? - I'm guessing whether you think things are dying out, is a matter of peperspective. If you have a certain kind of couple you are looking for and want to meet someone new every weekend, I'm guessing the well will run dry quickly. We have very little time, so even meeting a few people here and there can be tough to schedule. I see events, parties and booty calls listed all the time...add in the messages, friend requests (which are usually useless), and new people joining (whom you can choose to say hi to or not), and honestly, I'm not sure how anyone has time for it all to the point of saying the swing scene is dying. Guess we're just too new to remember the good old days. But as far as we can tell, there are a lot of nice, fun people to get to know...and simply not enough time to.

Breaking the 4th wall - meeting a swinger in a vanilla situation. - [quote=FUN4MWF]Rather than jump on the bandwagon and agree with everyone all teenie-bopper style, I'd need more info. Did you articulate in your email EXACTLY who you are, as in your real name and job and how you knew them and the specific circumstances that allowed you to recognize them?[/quote] Basically my e-mail was: "Hi, I'm James, the male half of Blueidkat, I work as a sales rep for a national beverage company and consequently call on a lot of retail locations along the Wasatch Front. The other day I was at Blah business in Blah City and noticed someone who looks a lot like you. I know with all the swingers in Utah I must bump into some, everyday, and not realize it. It was so cool to possibly recognize a lifestyler out there in the vanilla world and just wondered if I was right." I understand the whole fear of being stalked and the need for anonimity but are we that afraid? Do we need to be?

Being Stood Up - Sucks to be stood up - [quote=UTAH-CPLE-2006]carrier, now thats just funny. that said, swingers are as a rule flakes its gonna happen so we recomend just meeting someplace you would go anyway that way when people flake off you can just enjoy your evening without them.[/quote] great advice

Hedonism 2 Young Swinger's Week - March 19-27 - Speaking strictly in the context of swingers cruise versus swingers resort... this comparison may help... -----[ Swingers Cruise Pros:]-------- - Lower Price (compared to resorts, it's USUALLY a little cheaper overall.. ) - TONS of activities to do. Non-Stop entertainment on the ship and on the excursions. (Not a lot going on at the resorts.. one or two games per day is all). - Many of the excursions are takeovers as well, so you can be naked if you want. (Many of the resorts of topless-only). - You can be completely naked on most parts of the ship, if you want. - Dedicated play-rooms. Lots of them. (Many resorts only have one smaller area dedicated for play... which makes sense... generally only 200 to 250 people at a resort at any given time). - MASSIVE crowd. 3,500+ people on a single ship. You'll never possibly get to know even 5% of the people on the ship. (In other words, you have a huge pool of people to choose from to find people you like!!). Unless you are into older people, this is a HUGE advantage, because on any expensive swingers vacation, less than 20% of the crowd is going to be under 50. (People under 50 generally can't afford vacations like this)....... 20% of 3,500 is MUCH better than 20% of 250 in terms of finding couples your own age. For us, this is the single most important factor. - Better / more types of food to choose from. - Higher-end facilities and nicer overall atmosphere. (Cruise-ships are equivalent to a 4-star or even 5-star hotel… swingers resorts are 3-star at best.. most are pretty worn down). -----[ Resort Pros:]-------- - Smaller, more intimate setting. You'll get to know everyone at the resort at the time you are there. - Much more laid back. If you like to do is lounge by the pool all day, every day, it's for you. - You can leave the resort any time you want and venture into town. - Typically you have better access to phones, internet, TV, etc. - Rooms are bigger If you look at the activity list on a typical resort, you'll find there's only one thing going on at any given time. Most people just lounge by the pool all day, every day -- and then they go to club-style events at night. The cruise is totally different... At any given time, you can choose from 3 or 4 different activities (or just lounge by the pool)... and you can still do the club-style stuff at night IF YOU WANT.. (but there's usually other alternatives to pick from). Honestly, the ONLY major downside to the cruise compared to the resorts is that they don't do the swingers takeover cruises very often. (Once or twice a year is all you've got to pick from). So if you're picky about WHEN you go... the resort is probably your only bet. If you're flexible, don't give it a second thought... the swingers cruise is where it's at. =) I agree, however, that if you're going to do the resorts, and age is a factor (it is definitely a factor for us), young swingers week is where it's at! Hope that helps!

Another Swingers Show on TV - - [i]"The more main stream swinging becomes the more support swinging will have in the community at large. Once swingers have a beloved, adorable, polite and sexy out of the closet, celebrity, hosting a variety show on a major network it will probably become very cool to let all our friends and co-workers know we are swingers and it will become very politically correct for non swingers to defend and support us."[/i] There will be an openly gay man signing laws in the oval office along with his polygamist vice pres. and transgendered Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff...all smoking a joint LONG before there is anything close to that kind of acceptance towards swingers. [em]Emo_67[/em]

Verified "Real" People - - One of the biggest reasons I am in the lifestyle is because everything that I know from the couples, sf and sm I associate with. Is it is wrapped in honesty, trust, respect and dignity. The swingers I hang with must be the most amazing out there because this is not allowed with any of them

Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Hehehe.... Tara - Your Cody is really a hunk and quite the ultimate in men... count me in, but make sure he knows that while I do much in the bedroom I'm NOT doing windows.... k? K_T - Why yes I do :) Aren't I the lucky girl? ((Huggs)) to you all! Enjoy! -Te

couples more [oft ] ask for couples or single females. why is th - - Ou experiences are that MOST single men are asses...They are NOT swingers, they are searching for an easy piece of ass...AND we like single men...Just hard to find a good one... Another contributing factor is as you said...Men are insecure...and they do not want to have another man "servicing" their wife/GF/Significant Other when they have no one to play with... Just HIS opinion...

The New Neighbors Are Swingers - - That was awesome. I've been missing the button up shirt, F#@K!

Question for the ladies - - "We totally agree with Valence and Hunt. We're not sure why size is such a big deal. I'm your average 6" and don't feel like I have any reason to feel ashamed about it. The one person it should matter to loves it the way it is. " No one here said small guys should be ashamed, As usuall the insecure guys here all came out to complain even though none of the original post was directed at them in anyway. If your wife is happy with what you got great. This is my wifes play time, she wants what she wants. She doesn't settle for what ever is offered. Why should she? "We love the point about women who layer/pushup/tighten or whatever else to make themselves look better with clothes on. Wouldn't it be the same disappointment when the clothes come off as you have had with these single men that weren't the size they said they were. " We Always provide full nude pics of her to good candidates, nothing left to guess. He knows what he is getting. Most swingers and adult sites always show the woman in various stages of undress. More than I can say for the men. You usually never see them there. Mine are in our private pics so anyone we wish to play with can see them. "we Having said that, we would also find it upsetting that he had lied about his size if that was indeed what was important to you. So maybe force the single men in the future to provide a picture with their unit being measured with a ruler, then you should know exactly what you're getting. " Some will do this, the rest get all defensive when asked. 99% of the ones who send pics try to fake them so their real size will not show. We don't play with just anyone regardless of looks or size. If there is no physical attraction it won't happen. In our own experience most couples are quite selective. We are too ands thats our right. None of the original post by us was ever directed at any guy on here. No need to get all defensive and complain. Your manhood is not in question. I knew when we brought the question up what would happen but the wife wanted to ask others their experiences.