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Do you only play with married couples? - - I don't think another couple's/two swingers level of commitment has anything to do with it. As long as no one is left out, that's the issue. Who gives a fuck if they're married, dating or just hooking up as swing partners. -D-

Question - do you talk about other swingers? - ok but i would like to know if a cpl has had a mad time . why should other cpls have to go thur the bs ..why not say hay look they are ok but they need to work on there peopel skills .. i dont know maybe iam wrong ,,we are new to the life style ,,i would like to know if the guy or guys hehe my wife is with are up to par..as i would hope you are also . we have met some cpls that just clicked from the start .then others that say 1 thing then when you met .you say who are you guys ..let all be grown ups dont lie on your profile then this would not happen ..we have met some fakes ..so we say if you know some 1 is a fake let your friends know ..

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - Maybe the more appropriate question is "Why so much hate for single males in the swinger's world". One of the issues could be that they are seen as diners who bring nothing to the table. Yes, you might say there is something for the lady so all is good. However, the issue is "What do they bring to the table that the host wants?". If the husband is being left out, do you think he is going to be happy? Once or twice, maybe. If many times he will not be happy and she will not be either. Yes, some couples are looking for single males only because of some reason or other. Many are wanting it to be an all way experience. For us, the risk of the baggage outweighs the potential gains. Why? Because the few times we tried it, we had a bad time. So, what is our incentive to go ahead and try again and again? Well, you could say that there might be a bunch of good single guys just around the corner if we just tried again. Fair enough. However, since we both are not really interested in single men or single women, the gains would be slight, if any. For a couple that is not interested in a single male, what is their benefit? Probably little, if any. So, how would you go about enticing them? Probably going to be a hard sell. Little to gain and the potential for a problem. Add that to the fact that they see the single guy who is in abundance, brings nothing they care for and you have the nuisance factor. Now, with us, a couple could also be problems. However, we are more tempted to risk it because of the rewards it could bring. more importantly, the rewards it could bring THAT WE WANT. With the single male, the rewards would be something we don't really care for so the risk of a problem is a negative. I don't care for a BMW. I'm a Mercedes man. You might say that both are made in Germany and quality vehicles, etc, etc. However, I might be willing to pay $40K for a Mercedes while a BMW of the same value might be worth only $30K to me. Or if my dad had nothing but trouble with BMWs and when I was young, so did I, it might be worth $5K to me.

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While the Wife is Away The Husband Will Play?? - - Ya know, I have traveled out of town alone and could have played with my wifes permission, but when I have contacted a couple I got pretty much the "yea right" response. We have received e-mails just like mine and kinda have responded the same way. So I gave it up and that was ok. So as I would sit in my room in some exciting city drinking alone reading this forum (how pathetic!) I came to the conclusion, I just wanted to hang out with swingers. Its not that I even really wanted to hook up just wanted to meet some locals and who better than with this group? C.

Here's something Ive been curious about - - [quote=EVILDOERS]I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.[/quote]Absolutely agree. Well said Mr Evil! BTW...Do you know if those X-Ray glasses really worked?? I always wondered...still do. I have particulair attraction to "landing strips"....They could be real handy sorting out potential play partners!

Southern Utah Parties - - We are in St. George. There isn't a vibrant scene but ibwouldnt say it is a ghost town either. It isn't a swingers paradise

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New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - would love a place to go to where everybody knows my name 1. Would you attend a swingers club in Salt Lake? oh heck yeah! 2. If so, how often would you attend? bi-weekly, possibly weekly 3. What types of things would you like to see at the club? I.e., play rooms, dance floor, activities, etc. main=dance floor, pool tables, decent bar food, good mixed drink, regular bar atmosphere open to SF SM couples back room (champagne room) = strippers, private dancers open to SF SM couples private room (VIP lounge)= for play, participate or not open to SF couples 4. What types of things have you seen at other clubs that you liked/disliked? it has to look classy and be clean 5. What do you feel would be a fair entrance fee? membership fee for SF couples single males.. are not allowed membership, entrance granted or denied at time of arrival at the door non member, a standard cover charge that is comparable to other similar venues addtl fees to upgrade to the "champagne room" (where the strippers, private dancers are) slighty higher addtl fee to upgrade to the VIP lounge (playroom)

Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - i like to eat babies. they taste like chickens. and chickens taste like babies.