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The definition of cheating - - Interesting discussion. Certainly from a relationship standpoint the classic definition of cheating is being with someone other than your partner physically and/or emotionally. As swingers, however, we often hold ourselves above others and fall back on the lying and/or sneaking around aspect. Personally I feel that being dishonest with the person you hold most dear in this life to be the essence of cheating for me. When information is withheld you take away that person's prerogative to choose whether or not to stay in the relationship with you based on your actions outside of the relationship. There are a million ways people rationalize cheating. I find that a person's attitude towards cheating is a very good litmus test for the depth of their character. Now should we talk about cheating on a test or cheating other people out of their hard earned money? How about cheating on your taxes or at a poker game with friends? At what point DOES cheating become morally reprehensible or should it be "all's fair in love and war" and "every man (or woman) for himself"? Or as SIRNEWBY asserts, is self deception/lying/cheating really the only valid metric? Or did I misunderstand your point, SN? It would be interesting to get feedback from people (I'm sure there are plenty) who've been cheated on.

Info for Noobs - - [quote=DISCREETCPL]Sameroom, We are new to LS and are still a work in progress with profile, pics, communication, and the decision to get out and meet new peeps. Thank you very much for posting the info and tips. One thing that makes us comfortable is when others post reviews about others that we are looking up. It would be great for the Swingular LS community to expose those flakes and creepsters for who they are in advance for the noobs. It would be great to contact someone like yourself to "pricecheck" a couple, or person before waisting everyone's time. Or even worst, having a night filled of drama. We are a UT County couple and would love to weed out the bullshit way before we step out to play. Maybe we can create a never ending thread and list all the good experience couples and or singles as to help those noobs in search of a safe and drama free situation????????????? If a couple or single doesn't make the list then, we can assume no one has spent time with yet or there were some other reason. Let me know what you think???[/quote] The only problem is that in swinging no matter how much you vet a person or couple there is always, unfortunately, the potential for drama...or worse. When you mix potent emotions with often late hours and a little alcohol, even a normally cool, rational, fun person can turn into swingerzilla. I like the concept of your idea but putting it into practice would be, imho, hit and miss at best. We knew a couple a number of years ago that were REALLY cool, fun people...very mellow. One night before a party they got into an argument over some silly thing and carried that negative energy with them to the party. The alcohol started flowing and the guy had a couple of drinks too many and flipped out (these were seasoned swingers btw, not noobs) when his wife started kissing and groping another guy at the party.

Statement From Swingular Regarding CW Article - How to protect your privacy. - We've been keeping a close eye on the issues surrounding the recent article by City Weekly. We've decided to post a statement regarding our stance on this issue and also help our members understand how to better protect themselves from this and when future issues arise. First of all, neither Swingular nor it's representatives have been contacted by any member representing CW to do an article. If they say they have, then the person they talked to was not truly a Swingular representative. If Swingular had been contacted by anyone concerning articles about Swingular or swinging in general, our official position is to say 'no thanks' and pass on it. However, that does not mean that those requesting to do the article will find the information they are seeking, one way or another. Just like you can find an adult dating site, so can anyone else. Otherwise, these types of sites would not be in existence if nobody could find out about them. We cannot stop those who wish to investigate the world of swinging and from them telling the rest of the world about it. Every time somebody does an article or spot on the evening news about swinging in the local scene, are we supposed to lock down, run and hide? It's going to happen no matter what you do. So our job is to find ways to best protect the privacy of our members and to inform them on how they can protect themselves. When an article or news story comes out, we have kept track of any unusual activity on the site as well as new sign ups from that local area. The recent CW article has not produced any extra or unusual activity from the Salt Lake City area. In fact, it's been a bit lower. We've averaged about 8-10 new sign ups a day from the Salt Lake City area for the past 14 days compared to 12-14 new sign ups a day in October. So the actual publicity and/or exposure from this has been minimal if at all. The reality of it is this. If my family didn't know I was a swinger and saw an article about swinging, I guarantee they aren't going to 'check' if anyone they know is. They'd rather not know. I think the majority of non-swingers would rather NOT find out if someone in their family was. Yes, there may be a few more lookie lous, but I guarantee you they are looking because they are curious about it, not because they are against it. If you are against porn, are you going to go to a porn site to see what kind of porn is out there? I don't think so. I think you would stay away from something you don't believe in. And that seems to be the case with this recent article according to the stats. Even if someone decides to check it out and see, the only thing they will be able to see is your basic info and your primary photo. Only paying members can see your full albums and only your friends can see your private albums. I don't think many people are going to pay for a membership just to find out if their friends and family are swingers. I'm sure they don't want their hard earned money profiting a site like this. We have been in this business for over 8 years and have seen it all and we can tell you it's more paranoia than anything. What it comes down to is what you need to do to be able to enjoy this site and at the same time, protect your privacy. So we have come up with some things that you can do to be able to move forward and not worry every time someone or some reporter starts talking about the lifestyle. 1. Use a unique username that none of your non-lifestyle friends know of. If you need to change it, please contact us. 2. Do not post anything that can identify you personally in your profile descriptions such as addresses and phone numbers or visible tatoos. 3. Post faceless pictures in your public album. Make sure you don't expose anything on you or around you that someone can identify. You don't need to post cartoons or backgrounds, etc... Nobody is going to figure out who you are with faceless pictures. If you need help editing your images, contact us and we will edit them for you or recommend someone who can. You can also use a free online photo editing site such as www.picnik.com. 4. Do not post any identifiable information in the forums just like I mentioned in #2 above. 5. Use caution when adding friends. Get to know someone first. 6. Use caution when allowing others to see your pictures. There are a lot of picture collectors and fakes out there so if you get a request to see your private album from a couple or single female, voice verify first by phone. 7. Use caution when sending or replying to emails. Use your initials instead of your full names or use aliases until you get to know someone a little better. 8. And last, let these things go. The more you talk about it, the more you feed the fire. I know it's great drama and presents conversation but you're only bringing more attention to the topic. Sooner than later, it will die, if you let it. By following these simple suggestions, you will be able to maintain your privacy and still be able to enjoy using a website like this to meet others. It's not necessary to completely such down your profile in fear. Are you going to do this every time it happens? Well then you might as well just remove yourself from the scene then because it's going to come up again sooner or later. It's inevitable. We hope this helps some of you and hope it helps clear up some of your concerns. Your privacy is our top priority so if you have any questions or concerns, please contact us. Thank you, Swingular Administration Note: We have removed any negativity or hate posts surrounding these issues. We feel that it is hurting the lifestyle as a whole and does not belong on a site like this. We have had many new members contact us saying they do not wish to be a part of a site with so much hate. That is not the intention of a Swingers dating site. Therefore, we will be removing any new postings that involve hate and negativity. If you wish to debate in a friendly matter or post your opinion in a non-threatening or mature way, then do so. We do not believe in censorship however we do believe in providing a safe, comfortable and friendly place for everyone in the lifestyle to enjoy.

2 tickets for Tampa Bay Escapes - Clearwater/Tampa, FL available to anyone who wants to travel - This is a big swingers convention with lots of opportunities to meet new and exciting playmates....don't let these tickets get away! They're getting hard to come by!

Saturday up North - who's out for fun in the ogden area tonight? - Dear smedine beep in the swingular system maybe... but I still am in clearfield utah, and still have the nasty!!!!! store and giving 50% off to swingular swingers today on all items.. and maybe free if things go well smiles if you know what I mean lol. so come see me and say hi so remember are friend at swingular 50% off thats one hell of a deal on adult toys...!!!!!! thanks luv all walt 801-525-1583 store phone....;)

An Open Letter to Administration - What's the Mission? - FL4FUN: Thank you...finally a voice of reason. :) Seriously people...there are numerous sites dedicated to Swingers. Most are area-specific. If you want a truly "national" so-called swinging website, why not join AFF: the Walmart of swinging sites? You can't blame us Utards for having a fairly active if not colorful forum board...not to mention the most active swinging community of any that we have lived in. Google your own areas for swinging sites, you're bound to find one more appropriate for your geographical location. In the meantime...can't we all just get along (even living in different states)? Diversity is a spice of life.

Clubs or hangouts - - [quote=StewzyR1]Saturday nights are best at scorez... there are a lot of couples that go there and Meet up....its not an organized event....but keep your eyes open.....theres a lot.;)[/quote] So what are we keeping our eyes open for? Do people stamp their foreheads that say swingers on it? Is there a sign saying "swingers this way"? Do people shout every 30mins about the swinger blue light special like the supermarkets? I've been to scorezs many times and never seen obvious signs of swinger groups. I've seen groups that look like they might be swingers, but I'm not going to go up to a group and ask them if they are swingers and if I can join them...

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Thank you all. Don Juan has his freedom of speach and as much as I may disagree with his position his rights are just as important as mine. certian rights are so very important that a group of men back around the late 1700's decided to expressly write them down. freedom of speach was among those rights expressly protected not given in the document (Bill of Rights). those in uniform and out of uniform alike may disagree with our political goals and how the military is used in the accomplishment of those goals but never the less the military has been asked to fight and so we do. I sincerely do not remember where I herd this poem and I may not remember all of the words but the gist is: I saw them come for the artists, and I am not an artist so I did nothing! I saw them come for the grocer, & I am not a grocer so I did nothing!! I saw them come for the poor, & I am not poor so I did nothing!!!! I saw them come for the Jews, & I am not a Jew so I did nothing!!!!! Now they came for me, Who is left to help me????? the end I pray the United States Military is recognized for the highest standards of Integrity, Service & Excellence!!! sometimes in the persute of freedom there are some elements none of us like but must prtect the same. humbly yours, USAFR SRA Wilkinson

Jealousy - Coping tips for the beginning swinger - I've read the articles on the site about jealousy, but I am hoping that some of you more seasoned swingers can give me some advice. Remembering back to when you first started, were there any times that jealousy and hurt crept up, despite your willingness to let your partner play? How did you deal with this (obviously besides talking it through with your partner?) For me, I can logically work through it, and know how I should feel, especially given the fact that I've been on the other side of things for 4 years, but now having him play, it makes me feel insecure and a little hurt. Help :)

Curious Question - - Mogar, You have just described the lifestyle as it should be and is in many parts of the country... not just UT. It does seem, however, that the people on this site, particularly from UT are very very sexy. There must be someting in the water or that mormons are particularly good looking people... Might have to do with the survival of the fittest.... A long and perilous journey out there and then setting up and getting things started in the wilderness... Only the best genes survive, I guess. Hat off to UT... Sexy women.. I think that many areas, besides UT, are very hot beds of swinging activity.. OHIO, NC, WV, PA is comming out as a hot area.. FL and there are several areas of concentration in FL...Different areas of NY state all seem to have large contingents of swingers... From all of the activity that we see thru various sites, it would seem that swinging is on the rise everywhere.