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MSNBC Article on Swingers - actually a positive one :) - http://www.today.msnbc.com/id/25851876/
swingers parties - - Okay, I was teasing you earlier, but it is very difficult for the single males to infiltrate the swinger's clubs here. You can join the playpalace in Fort Myers and you can go to the meet & greets at the club, but not allowed to the after parties without a single female or couple. They have a website, you can check it out, theres also theotheroz in Cape Coral (not sure what Tina's policy on single males is there these days) The local meet & greet group in Port Charlotte doesn't allow single males at all, sorry, hang in there!
Mormons - - What a interesting topic, I have to put in my two cents.
I am from Amesfoort, Holland. I moved to Utah when I was young and grew up in SLC in the winter, returning to Holland some summers. (A unique perspective)
Now with my wife, I have not meet any LDS swingers. But our circle of friends is not LDS ether. But while I was single I meet many Mormon girls that a great interest in me. Some tried to convert me (HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH.... no)
and some had no intention of converting me, although may have used it as an excuse to talk to me.
There are many benifiets for staying in the church, and growing up non-lds can be a lonely affair in Utah.
I think that many pretend to believe, because they need the support of the community, friends, and family.
But many do want they want behind closed door. And I am sure the Internet is a great escape for them as well.
I have been far and wide in this world, and most people are all the same. Yeah they may not be that open but everyone has to get to their own freedom in their own way and own time. So many of them just chat, and disappear when it comes down to meeting.
But in my single days I had girls from the church meet me in private, and well. :) I used to like to think that is was because I was a hottie. but I think I have come to realize it was them who was hot, and needed release, and trusted me to be quiet about it.
I am sure many think about swinging. But I doubt many would even talk to their spouse about that. The one issue I have with the Church is that they tend to control through fear, and I bet many guys and girls would like to bring up the topic. But fear their spouse will freak and they will be in front of the bishop.
Most be a scary place to be, I am very lucky to have been raised in a very liberal, open, agnostic home.
That upbringing seems to leave so many insecurity's, and doubts about ones self.
anyway sorry to be long winded.
Poly-Swingers - Moving beyond FWB relationship - [quote=SHREDLITTLERED]May I recommend a wonderful book? The Ethical Slut: A Practical Guide to Polyamory, Open Relationships & Other Adventures. Written by Dossie Easton and Janet W. Hardy. I found this book very positive, helpful and informative. A wonderful guide to that "evolution" you are referring to. Best of luck![/quote]
Thank you so much, I will check it out. :)
Ken and Barbie Syndrome...... - is this a real affliction? - So we just read Classy's profile. We find nothing wrong with it. In fact, we agree completely. Wish we had worded ours to say it that well. We also prefer face pics. That is the most important to us.. face pics. besides.. Parts is parts.
Just because someone thinks they want to fuck you, doesn't mean you have to fuck them...
We may be here as swingers, but we don't have to swing with everybody.. there HAS to be attraction. We realise that we don't appeal to everybody either. :)
Maggi & Luke
PS. You crack me up UTHOT :)
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We do prefer to play out of state, but if the ambience and feeling of the place was exrremly safe and private then we would attend once a month..at least :)
single males - - Thank you for opening the topic. I hope that it will be used shed some insight and not just complain.
In a place like Habits there are vanilla singles that have no clue that swingers congregate there. So there will naturally be more problem in that environment than a private party.
At a house party the only people that should be there are those that are invited by the host and hostess. Every one of the guests should have known the rules or etiquette of this lifestyle. If you had complaints, they should have been addressed last night with the hosts. Evidently the balance you were looking for was not there.
Sadly it is difficult for most singles to figure out how to talk to a swinging couple. There are no schools or training centers to teach this. As a single male, conversation at a vanilla party with a couple is much easier. Most often the men and women separate and we talk with one or the other without expectations on either side. Sometimes conversation is just conversation.
I find that making friends is generally more difficult in this lifestyle because of the sexual expectations of many. I think that you will find a number of the single men, after getting the cold shoulder from many husbands, find it easier to attempt to talk to the women because they lack the skills to talk with both. It is a mistake but it is also part of the learning process.
There is no excuse for rude behavior on the part of the single male but neither is there an excuse for the typical married male attitude. Single males are always and have always been a pariah and dam few couples want them at any party. I came into this lifestyle as a single male looking to make male friends to hang with that would help me understand the rules. I found most of the males were cold and suspicious and difficult to talk with.
I was not looking for women to play with nearly as much as I was looking for a girlfriend that was already in the lifestyle. But I am sure that as far as most were concerned all I wanted to find was their wife
Kik group for UT swingers. - Contact me if your interested in joining a KIK group for Swingers - sounds good sighn us up kik utskier54
Tired of Politics and Religion! - - I humbly suggest that you folks get a grip! I believe this site is a national site? Do you hear the rest of the nation bitching when the forum turns into a Utah date-a-thon every Thursday through Saturday? Personally, it doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for me! Therefore, I should suggest you all knock it off?
If all you care to converse about 24/7 is sex, maybe it would be a good idea to find additional outlets for your narrowly focused world!
The popularity of some of the current threads would indicate to me that some swingers are able to discuss real life situations as well. Politics and religion are hot button topics and elicit strong emotions. Name-calling is likely to be a result. Solution - DON"T READ non-sex related threads.
I don't happen to like name-calling, so I'm usually able to resist the temptation. But, the narrow-minded responses on this thread so far have me working on a few. :)
Dale
Non - Mormon Social Group - Get Togethers And Travel - We're interested in a social group. We're not hardcore swingers but are interested in socializing with like minded people
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