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How much risk is too much? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]You're right. I'm just telling it the way I see it from what I know. I just wanted to voice the other side of this because I know women who feel this way and, although I understand how you feel, I see their side of it, too.
And the men on here who think that women truly want to be raped need to understand that they may think it's what they want, but what they really want is the unrealistic fantasy that's played out so often in the Romance Novels that are flying off the shelves. There's a reason for their high sales. But it's merely a Fantasy. These men might come across videos like that of Laci Green's and think that means all women want to be raped. They should know that, in reality, women don't want it played out. That's what the OP should know and consider. [/quote]
And a certain percentage of men may have just read that and only saw (or acknowledged), "...all women want to be raped." When we already have a very pervasive bias in our culture towards patriarchy and women being subservient to men, especially sexually, then discussions like this, IMHO, cause more harm than good. It doesn't take much looking on the internet to find sites and discussion boards where violence against women is not only overtly depicted through text and image but also actively discussed and even encouraged. Fantasize all you want but openly discussing how to fulfill rape fantasies in a swingers forum can only cause harm I think.
N by N Campout - Thanks for a Great time! - This was our first time coming to the campout. We had an amazing time and cant wait till next year. Thanks to our hosts and all the people who showed up and made it a great experience. "this one time, at swingers camp" haha!
KUTV News Story on Swingers - News - Well, well. Do you think Jason Chaffetz will propose a ban on Swinging, now that it is a threat to heterosexual marriages?....Good one Illustrator.
That would require a congressional committee and an investigation and more waste of tax payer money. Its interesting how in a mormon dominated city that swinging is news worthy. I mean you would think it would be swept under the rug. People always have to find something to blame their troubles on...Oh well.
Naked beach - Stansbury island - As spring gets a little closer come out to the beach and work on your tan. It's a ghost town now but as temps get about 70 it'll get busier. There are all types of people there. Dudes, LGBTQ, couples, nudists (like us), swingers. The further away from the sagebrush you go the less bugs just be careful it can get muddy too. People go all the time we like to go Sunday afternoons. It's not a legal nude area so be careful and respectful. That being said in 10 years we've never had an issue. It's a beautiful place to camp. Playfulness to the north end, vanilla to the south.
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - I like to join the group I been off for alittle bit , is time to jump back in see Familiar faces :)
BUSTED! Your Kids Found Out Your Swingers. Now What? - - DOCFRIES wrote:
"Something else....as I DO work in healthcare, particularly focusing on psychological interactions...those who tend to support their comments with cursing, or "I know what I am talking about", tend not to. They just have a pathological need to force their opinion, for that is what it is, on everyone and have it taken for fact. Typically, they tend to be arrogant and have a pretty inflexible belief system. Anyway...MY OPINION.........lol"
Now there is an interesting comment. I would love to discuss this topic in length with you in my private group. Since it's off-topic and could be debated for a bit, perhaps you could join my group.
I actually disagree with your analysis of the use of profantity and people being strong in their convictions, views, dogma etc. You actually described Christians almost to Tee; save the profanity (sometimes) of course. I think what you describe is human nature. Anyway, please start a topic in my group. It's called "free thinkers". Please be sure to include the professional references and sources that you use to make your assessment.
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Sex vs. Guilt - Atheists have 'better sex lives than followers of religion who are plagued with guilt' - I hope the Admin doesn't mind this. If so, delete it. I found this interesting; a swingers site in Utah for Mormons.
http://www.sdc.com/utah-swingers/church-of-jesus-christ_lds-swingers-utah.html
Mr. Seperimentors
Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - I think there are enough interested couples we should count off to form teams. If not the group will be so big there won’t be any control over safe sex
Girls that are into DP - How common is this activity among the swingers? - [quote=HARD_STONE][quote=EDANY0178]DVP? [/quote]
I'll take either opening that I'm allowed in.
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Uummm...i think this is one topic that "just average" would be an advantage...at least for us less "experienced" girls lol...
Bubulaplease - Confidentiality - Something that has bothered me a little bit...when we went to Lumpys the doorman asked if we were there for the Sinful event. We says yes and as we were walking down the stairs some people upstairs asked him what was going on and he said it was a swingers party. I mentioned it to a few people that night and it seemed that it was a normal occurrence. We realize that going to the events we may run into someone we know, however, people who don't know about our lifestyle also go to lumpys. I would hate for them to know there was a swingers party going on and then see us leaving or something. My question..is this normal? Is it this way at, say, Sandy Station? Do the group organizers ask for confidentiality?
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