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Appropriate Parameters of Sexual Conduct in Modern Society - Should sex still have a unique status or just be another hobby? - Beard, You did open something up but I'm not sure what. I had to copy and paste your original here so I didn't miss or get too confused.. One of your last points first: Moral refers to standards as defined by the church, the government or your neighbors(in light of the Supreme Court decission a few years ago about porn) Ethics, on the other hand are something that we define for ourselves based on our upbringing/environment and values that we have defined based on whatever we base them on. You are right that marriage is a concept designed by religion and the government for the care of offspring and the clear definition of linage for property rights. You use the term marriage, which is a legal term like it is a moral imperative then ask if it should be based on some one or group of common interrests. Then the next breath you suggest that marriage is supposed to be more than any of that and something to do with sharing and intimacy. Finally you go back to somehow trying to make a point, (I'm not sure what that point was) that maybe there should be a conglomerate of reasons for marriage then with the nesxt breath you ask if sex should be forbidden.. Now lets see if this makes any sense to anyone. I'm poly and We swing. I have a lover who is married and her husband knows or us(he is not poly) and B knows of us and we are all good friends. We are, my lover and I, intimate both emotionally and sexually and both non poly mates knowof this. B and I are very much soulmates but then my lover is also very close to that as well. I do not wish to take her away from her husband and I do not wish to replace B. She does not want to replace her husband with me and we are alll OK with that arrangement. In my heart of heart I am married to both in a very intimate way although I do not wish to procreate with anyone anymore. She feels the same way toward me. I would submit that marriage is an intimate, emotional and sometimes physical union of people.. I did not say two people I said people. We have been taught sex as a negative thing and relationships with more than one as a negative thing because we cannot love more than one person or more than one at any one time... I submit that we can love more than one and that the more we love the more we get back from that... Swinging is started off as fun between close friends and sometimes the term wife swapping became a reality.... Sex is fun adn swinging is about sex and today alot of times about relationships. Relationships in my opinion are for the benefit of everyone involved... . So I'm not sure if I understood where you were going but this is my take on the propositions as I understood them. Depending on any person's opinion or preferences sex and love can be the same or they can be separate or they can be coincidental but it's basically up to that person or couple to make that determination.... We, in the lifestyle, may ultimately be right and marriage may change to a more contractual thing rather than some sacrosanct BS that it has become.... Swingers as a group have more than 3.4 time greater chance of remaining married than that of non swingers. The range of failed marriages is between 66 and 77% in all first and second marriages and some 70% of all married people cheat on their mates. Swinger have a better than 85% chance of marriage survival. Cheating is not exempt in Swinging but I think is is greatly reduced... I think as swingers we have sex with friends and it can be just that or it can be more... at least for me..

KSL Sucks - 3 posted comments deleted by editors of forums - Seems to me that they were expected to be open and accepting of this lifestyle choice. Yet, you'd be utterly amazed at the number of "swingers" who proclaim that they are open-minded, and yet attack the lifestyle choices of others in this very lifestyle... Just read the forums. You expected KSL's viewers to be any different?

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - we are looking for friends ,, the friends i have now,, we can party & set around , talk, joke. and whatever.and not worry about what is said or who said it. To give you an example our friend Glen got him a new girlfriend she is spanish, now our friends are people of all colors different religons, there polish italian, irish, african american, etc..etc.. But Glens new girlfriend is new to the crowd. She been dating him for about 4 months. Now we don't swing with any of these people, the problem we have is this ,in our group of friends and Glen is in agreement with this , that we all have to watch what we say now if we say anything that has to do with spanish people, as in joking,cutin' up, whatever.she will get mad. If you can't sit around and joke and cut up without anyone getting offended then your not friends. We have tried to discuss this with her, to no aveil... This is what we are looking for, friends that can get along... without all the other bullshit that goes on in the rest of the world.. kristy & alton

Nudist City in France - Cap d'Agde, France - entire nude city, and very swinger friendly - My wife and I just returned from a trip to France. We stayed for several days at Cap d'Agde, in the south of France, on the French Riviera. The whole city is nudist, and very swinger friendly. The population of the city swells to 40,000 during the summer months. There is controlled access into the city (10 euros/day), and you never need to leave the city. It has grocery stores, lots of shopping, a pharmacy, bank, bakery (we bought fresh bagettes every day), dozens of restaurants, and its own Mediterranean beach (which is mandatory nude-they have lifeguards who tell you to take your clothes off if they find you wearing anything). There are thousands of hotel rooms, villas, condos, mobile homes, in which to stay. The city is very swinger friendly. There are at least 5 swingers clubs that are open at night, and two hotels of 65 rooms each that are couples/swingers only. My wife and I had sex by the pool every morning, while lying on our lounge chairs under beach umbrellas, which were set up by the best looking French pool boy you have ever met. I was fucking my wife while asking him to go get us a couple more drinks! We met couples from all over the world, of all ages. One of the really fun swinger things we did every day was to go to the foam party, or as they call it in French, the mousse party. It is hosted from 2-7 pm every afternoon by one of the swingers clubs, and is couples only. You check all your clothes at the door, because nudity is mandatory. The venue is outdoors, but the whole area (which can accommodate 200 people or more) is walled off from the rest of the city. Inside there are lots of outdoor beds, couches, chairs, a big pool, outdoor showers, free condom and hand sanitizer dispensers, and two bars. But the funnest part is the foam area. It is open to the sky on the top, with walls on 3 sides. At the top is a foam dispenser that runs every 5 minutes or so, and partially fills the area with foam. If you stand under the foam machine, the foam is over your head, but the further away you move from the foam machine, the foam level drops to 2 to 4 feet high, depending on where you stand. The foam mixture doesn't hurt your eyes, and is quite slippery. So you just walk into the foam and start rubbing to the music. If you like someone, you can invite them out to one of the beds, shower off, and play. Then shower again and wade back into the foam. There were probably 75-100 people at a time in the foam room, including one pretty girl in a wheelchair who came every day. It was a blast! We're going back next summer, for 7-10 days this time. If you want to know anything more about it, let us know. L&P

Disabled Swingers - - Thank you for the pointers CountryBumpins. I will certainly add more to our profiles. Your conditions do not sound at all trivial. In fact FMS combined with Peripheral Neuropathy, Diabetic Neuropathy and Sciatica are why I am in the wheelchair. Like you the last thing I want to do is sound like I am whining. After all we are here to have fun not bitch ;) Jeff

Church Swingers, are they out there? - - well i don't know about you all, but we do the church thing, and if we had more of are fellow members that could understand the pleasure of sex we could be more open. But since are religaion is very against it. we have deside to keep are religain aspect to are self sence most have a hard time that we are the religain we are and that we are in the lifestyle. so if you can do both more power to you. my 2 cents MR.

Swingers In Uniform - Pay your memorial day respects here. - Don Juan ,........My quote once again from Ronald Reagan " It's not that Democrats are ignorrant , It's just that they think they know so much that just isn't so " . I believe this was more directed towards the far left liberal such as yourself ! Poor was the right choice of words in describing those who support families on a military income . The choice of words such as wankers and cheers , cheers is how you signed off on your profile and would lead one to believe you are of British decent . The use of the name Don Juan and the use of the term the mother language in a previous post would further confirm the British decent . 5ft 9" tall and 165 lbs , long face and distorted teeth , came to America and married an American girl to stay in the country before your visa ran out . You played Don Juan on her , she divorced you and you spend more time on trying to get out of child support payments than you do working . You will not admit it and say its wrong but I know better ! You see Don , there is not one person born in America that is an American that would say that an American soldier did not die for him or his right to freedom . As you call them , morons , maybe we can keep them home and send you with your brilliance to the middle east to speak the truth and be a hero . If they are not understanding towards you and your dillusions I suggest try beating them over the head with your books and touted education .

Paris Clubs - recommendations? - We are in Paris tonight and are looking up swingers clubs. There are so many to choose from. Can anyone recommend any? Something more casual, perhaps a spa. Thanks in advance for any input.

IKEA - ????? A question for those of you as kinky as we are. :) - [quote=OHBABY]I think we should all get together and design a couple of swingers theme rooms that they could display in their store! Then we could all go model the room for them and show people exactly how they are to be used! :)[/quote] Nice!

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - [quote=BMSHELL]I should probably add that if you didn't get tickets and you'd still like to attend, let me know and I can put you on the waitlist in case someone else cancels... (which, given how many people there are coming, is likely that a few spots will open up). Sorry for the thread-hijack Looking4Fun.... Back to the topic! Who wants to hang out with M&T? They're HOT! (Can vouch!) [/quote] Who are M&T? I also have to say Bshell, you do a great job of promoting without being pushy. I always admired that about you two. You seem very authentic and kind. We like that!