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I Have A Question - Poly vs. Open - Mr. and I have been in a committed poly relationship with another couple for 3 1/2 yrs. Both we and the other couple had been in the LS for 3-4 years before this. Our trajectories were different - Mr. and I were pretty bored with swinging. We had lots of fun adventures, but we both tend to crave more intimacy and I, in particular, don't find myself attracted to many men until I am intellectually attracted to them, and that generally takes more time and effort than the average swinger wants to put in. We had tried only dating unicorns for a year, and then went to more of an open style marriage (infrequent, but occasional hall passes. Sometimes with both members of the same couple, sometimes not). But even that wasn't as satisfying as I wanted and my interest in the LS was waning. That's when we stumbled upon our Others. We were at a vanilla swirl party (a few LS, mostly vanilla) and immediately picked them out as LS. What do you know, we clicked. I immediately was drawn to the husband, he to me, and our spouses soon felt the same. We began spending time together as a foursome pretty much from that day forward.
Their trajectory was different than ours. They were classic swingers--meet at a party, click, arrange sex or fuck then and there. Sometimes these people became friends over time, sometimes not. They didn't crave the intimacy we did; they enjoyed the spontaneity, excitement and variety. Their relationship was never open. No hall passes, almost always straight partner swap with another couple, but occasionally they would mix that up at a party situation. So it's kind of surprising that they ended up down this road of polyamory. We just clicked and loved every minute with each other and really never have wanted to be apart.
HOWEVER, we are all four still swingers in some way or another. It has become more apparent after the honeymoon phase has settled into a deeper, more real relationship. They occasionally still want that exciting fling. We do too, only less often as the stars REALLY have to align for me. Mr and I still occasionally like sex with a deeper connection. There have been moments when we resented their desire for casual sex. There have been moments when they resented our need for deeper connection. But in the end, like any LS couple, we were able to talk it through. And we were able to realize how all of us can be fulfilled and have our needs met. We just had to drop the jealousy and insecurity and really want to please the people we love.
Ice Breakers In Ogden - - Rumors - We've been up there, and yeah it would be worth looking into.
Goldenhand - Its on Highway 89 between Wall Ave and that Pepsi warehouse.
AMMEND - I think North and South Ogden is pretty decent, Ogden City not so good. Now West Jordan is the place to be for swingers!
Tranny's - - Well a transexual is not different then any sexual type. They like to dress up and may even want to be a women or man some just like certain things. Not all Transexuals are gay many are straight as an arrow. So treat every sex the same and you will see that they are beautiful.
Some of the most evolved people are transexual they are very good at resolving issues and making them work for them. Transexuals do live off the grade from most as they have two lives. However, So do swingers so really its about what floats your boat!!!
I have been called a gay hag here and there and knowing most of the gay world in Utah makes running into the funnest crowd the Transexuals who always keep you on your toes. You wont know until you try it. I seem to attract them fairly often so my point is I dont know but do try it!!!(= (= (=
Disabled Swingers - - I am the male half of a couple. I am also disabled and in a wheelchair. Add to that I am new to the lifestyle. Shelley my other half is a gorgeous BBW (on the smaller side of BBW). She was very active in the lifestyle prior to us getting married. We have had a couple threesomes in the beginning of our relationship. Now after 12 years of marriage I am finally secure enough in our relationship for us to become active again.
Yet we are finding it very difficult to actually find folks to play with and or parties that are accessible to my chair. We have had folks online come right out and tell us that if it was not for me being in a wheelchair they would have no problem meeting us. Heck we even had one couple come right out and ask me if Shelley would be willing to play solo cause they did not want to have anything to do with someone in a wheelchair (not from here).
So I guess what my question is, is there actually active disabled folks in the lifestyle and are there non disabled couples willing to get together with those of us who might have physical challenges. Or am I just going to be constantly rolling uphill?
Jeff
This one time at Swingers Camp - Discussion about N by N camp out - Damn we missed meeting so many people most we didn't even know went up there so just a idea how about another campout before the end of the year. To all we met thanks and to all we didn't meet hopefully next time. Thanks again host hostess and all that helped
hall passes - who all does it - Thanks Eros, as you agreed with me, our game has to improve. But just because we think we're enlightened and progressive because we're swingers, some of societies stereotypes still apply. Men are still men, and women are still women. In other words, pursuit is usually up to the male. Chauvinist as that may sound, it probably is more about genetics then anything else. How many species in the animal kingdom do you see, where the female aggressively looks for a male. It's almost always the reverse.
So men, work your ass off in the gym, pay the 30 bucks for that that PDF manual on how to improve your game. (kidding of course about the last suggestion). What you may find is that it improves your own relationship with the wife or girlfriend.
One thing I noticed, when I improve myself, it only enhances my own marriage and my other relationship. That's always a plus plus in my book!!!
Virtual "Cheap Thrill Seekers" - - Where can we post the tools and d-bags that when told no thank you, all of a sudden you're a prude or a bitch or an asshole because you said no. What ever happened to the common courtesies and the rules that no means no. Just because this is a swingers site does not mean we will fuck you just because we have a profile here. Is there a tool-o-dex for that? Nothing more makes us say "OH DEAR GOD I MADE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE LETS FUCK" like being called names after politely turning you down.
We have heard about it many times........... - Couples that are swingers - On a funny note the guy was in such a hurry he left his boxers and t shirt. Maybe I should mail them to him???
In response to GSC posts and Swingular. - - Lookie what I found in my inbox today.....
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From: NTAKTAGF [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:37 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: NTAK Update Fri 11/02 Kind of long.
Swingers,
Here is an update as of Friday, November 02, 2007. SW Admin did contact NTAK counsel today. The essentials of this conversation were relayed to us by counsel over the phone.
As we understand it, Rob has removed GSC
Racist Cops In The South - Trooper uses racial slur and threatens to kill a fleeing man. - Umm...I do believe this thread was posted under the "Just Talk" category, instead of any other category that specifically refers to "Lifestyle" chat of any kind.
Therefore, one would be led to believe that Swingular does indeed entertain a variety of forum topics that may not be specific to swingers.
Hence, the category offered by Swingular: "Just Talk".
:)
J
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