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OUCH - Anyone caught swinging bu family or friends? - Ran into Ms. Evil's cousin a few years ago. Were invited to an annual bbq non-swing party by a couple who WERE swingers but they said even though all vanilla sometimes the party could got quite steamy. Hung out, drank a lot and flirted with all the cute vanillas and our hosts. Suddenly (while naked in the hottub) I saw Ms. Evil's cousin walk in. I quickly alerted her and tried to dress her quickly and sneak her around the side of the house but she was just drunk enough to think it would be hilarious to say hi to her cousin. Turns out the cousin was a FWB of the hosts since high school and frequently joined them for sex. Of course the host instantly wanted to play kissing cousins with Ms. Evil and her cousin but she had sobered up enough by then to not want to go there. Still see the cousin every so often and though nothing was ever mentioned we all know...LOL

Lifestyle RV Parks & Campgrounds - Does anyone know of RV parks and campgrounds for those in the lifestyle? - Lots of nudist resorts... but none that I know of that cater to swingers....

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We are would like to be a part of the group sounds like safe clean fun!

Vegas Baby! - Clubs - Lived in Vegas for 5 yrs and just visited a few days ago. We agree with the "Nasty .. and not in a good way" comment. Been to them all and some that are no longer there. The Sin City Swingers parties are good, been members a long time. Don't waste time or money on Reds (Red Roster). If your not THE FIRST to use a room for the night, your just laying with everyone else that's been there. Green Door same way. Cleanest and best places are gone. Hit the clubs, sure you will find some great like minded people. Have fun... and be sure to cum back and share your story..

(Utah) Golf get together... - Any golf meet and greets going on? - I love this idea! Golf has soooo many terms that can be turned sexual!! I think playing golf with a bunch of swingers and talking dirty the whole time...whoa what a sexual build up for great fucking afterwards. Count us in!

Looking to establish a group of safe swingers - - We would be interested.

seniors - why is it so difficult to find senior swingers or single ladies? - WELL THAT WAS LONG WINDED TO SAY THE LEAST. READ WHAT WAS WROTE AND HOW IT WAS WROTE. IF YOU HAD LIVED IN THE SOUTH FOR MORE THEN A YEAR AND I DONT MEAN SOUTH UTAH. YOU WOULD OF SEEN THAT THE REASON FOR WHAT YOU SAW THERE WAS THIS. WE AS SOUTHERN FOLKS OWE NO ONE A APOLOGY FOR ANYTHING AT ANY TIME, BUT WE AS SOUTHER FOLK HAVE PUT UP WITH THE BULL FOR SO LONG WE ARE TIRED. SO IF WE DONT COME OFF LIKE WHAT YOU ARE USE TO SEEING IN THE OLD DIXIE LAND MOVIES WE ARE SORRY. BUT SENCE YOU DONT HAVE MUCH OF THAT OUT HERE YOU WOULDNT KNOW WOULD YOU. BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE I GOT A HOME IN TENN AND FLA YOU ARE WELCOME AT EITHER AND YOU WILL SE HOW IT REALLY IS WHEN YOU LIVE IT. WHEN I GO TO SOME SOCIAL GET TOGETHERS HERE IN UTAH I HAVE TO HEAR HOW BAD WE ARE IN THE SOUTH TOWARDS OTHER RACES,AND HOW WE DID THIS AND WE DO THAT AND ALL THAT CRAP. AND IT PUTS US ON THE OFFENCE AT TIMES. BUT LIKE BOB (MARLEY) HAS ALWAYS SAID DONT WORRY BE HAPPY OR AT LEAST HIT A FATTY. IF YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT A FATTY IS THERE TR I CAN HELP YOU UNDERSTAN THAT ONE TOO. LOL BUT THEN KNOWING ALL MUST BE A GREAT BURDEN TO SOME. TO ME AS LONG AS I KNOW IT 5:00 SOMEWHERE I AM HAPPY CAUSE I KNOW IT WILLL CATCH UP TO ME SOONER OR LATER.LOL BUT BEING A JACK MUSLIUM AND ALL THAT IT INTELLS I LOOK FORWARD TO POSTING STUFF LIKE THIS TO YOU BECAUSE IF ALL THE NICE FOLKS ON HERE TOOK THE CRAP I READ FROM TR TO BE THE WAY OF THINGS IN THIS WORLD WE WOULD NAVER GET NAKED AND WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN A GEORGE ORWELL BOOK CALLED 1984. SO TR GET LAID CHILL OUT ON THE UP TIGHT ASSHOLE ATTITUDE AND FOR GOD SAKE DONT WORRY WE ARE ADULTS AND MORE THEN ANYTHING WE ARE NORMAL AMERICANS WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH, WE CAN HANDLE THE COLOR THING IN AMERICA AND MOST OF ALL WE CAN HANDLE THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. QUESTIONS CAN BE ASK WE MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT IS ASK BUT THEN WE HAVE TR TO TELL US WHAT WE LIKE AND DONT LIKE,RIGHT. HELL IF WE ALL LIKED THE SAME THING WE WOULD ALL BE LIVING IN SOME PLACE LIKE IRAN OR CHINA OR SOME OTHER 3RD WORLD COUNTRY WHERE WE WOULD BE DAMN SCARED TO SAY WHAT WE THINK. SO CHILL OUT GET NAKED HAVE FUN I HEAR ALL THE DOUBLE SPEAK I WANT ON TV I DONT EXPECT IT IN A SWINGER ROOM.AFTER ALL WE AS ADULTS AFTER SEX WITH OTHER PEOPLES WIFE AND OR HUSBAND DOES NOT BEING NAKED WITH A STRANGER NOT BRING ONE DOWN TO THE VERY BASISC THING IN LIFE. BUT HERE I HAVE WENT AND GOT LONG WINDED MY SELF.SORRY FOLKS. BUT I KNOW THERE WILL BE A ANWSER TO THIS FROM OUR LIBERAL FRIEND THAT IF I DIDNT KNOW BETTER I WOULD SAY HE WAS RUNNING FOR A FEDERAL OFFICE IN UTAH OR WASHINGTON OR MAYBE HE WANTS TO THE FRIST TOO RUN THE NEW WORLD ORDER THEY ARE TRYING TO INVOLK ON US UNDER KING GEORGE LOL. WELL I MUST SAY GOOD NIGHT MRS.CALIBASH WHERE EVER YOU ARE.

Young swingers party - sold out, who still wants to party ? - We had a hard time buying tickets when the event first posted (and do meet the age requirement). Got some weird error and sent BMSHELL a screenshot to see if they'd seen it before. Not sure what was going on with it. We gave up on it after a while. Oh well, maybe next time .... :)

Obama's Roadtrip - - [quote]Fair enough. Then why rely on them for anything that likely wasn't adequately studied?[/quote] Likely just does not do it for me...When the numbers are given AND shown how they were gathered, I tend to believe they are fairly accurate. [quote]Let's take your Pepsi/Coke example. There is likely nothing befuddling about your scenario. Just one possibility: Where are the two Florida products bottled? Maybe it's the water.[/quote] Both bottled locally, it is chalked up to being a preferance thing. In WI, lived there for a while, it was called pop or soda, unless a VERY specific thing was needed, a Mountain Dew for instance. In the south, it is a Coke no matter what it is. If someone in the south offers a Coke, it could be Pepsi, Mountain Dew, Diet Rite, Sam's Club Soda, etc. [quote]I'm glad you agree with the logic. My Bachelor's is in Social Welfare (Psych Minor). Human nature is only a bitch of a thing when you get out there a few standard deviations. The bulk of us are as predictable as rats.[/quote] Believe it or not, I have 2 BA's (econ and int. rel.) with a minor in social work. So I am very aware of social science standards and SOME believe that we're predictable. If you have a smaller sample, we are fairly predictable, especially when the sample is taken from a specific group of people (swingers for instance, better yet, swingers in a specific region), once you get to the larger populations (nationwide for instance), human behavior is not easily quantified. Try being the ONLY conservative in all the social work classes, it was fun! Then again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. [quote]I propose that as an economist you are simply looking at things with a limited perspective. [/quote] Possibly, but I also have a rare ability to look at it from an outsider's view.... [quote]There is simply no question that if a person's basic needs (food and shelter) are met, there is less motivation to risk the consequences of violating societal rules.[/quote] I can see the logic of this, however, we are Americans, we always want MORE, we are constantly bombarded with images of MORE, we are constantly told that without MORE we are incomplete, etc. What are the consequences of violating societal rules? Food, shelter, clothing, TV, etc? Really tough there. Look at prisons in Mexico, if your family does not provide, you starve, more than likely. THAT is consequences, it is a deterrant (sp?). IMHO, one of the reasons for our increased crime rates is the lack of public punishment. If every time you turned around, you saw a group of people in black and white stripes mowing lawns, trimming trees, etc. on the side of the road in leg chains, it would cut crime considerably. If they did public executions, it would cut crime dramatically. Then again, I am a staunch supporter of heavy penalties for crimes, especially when they are repeat offenders, most of the social scientists are not. They want more rehab and such, which I also support, BUT only for first timers, not for repeat offenders. Anyway, I am thoroughly enjoying our debate... Next!

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - done