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How much risk is too much? - - [quote=ILLUSTRATOR]You're right. I'm just telling it the way I see it from what I know. I just wanted to voice the other side of this because I know women who feel this way and, although I understand how you feel, I see their side of it, too. And the men on here who think that women truly want to be raped need to understand that they may think it's what they want, but what they really want is the unrealistic fantasy that's played out so often in the Romance Novels that are flying off the shelves. There's a reason for their high sales. But it's merely a Fantasy. These men might come across videos like that of Laci Green's and think that means all women want to be raped. They should know that, in reality, women don't want it played out. That's what the OP should know and consider. [/quote] And a certain percentage of men may have just read that and only saw (or acknowledged), "...all women want to be raped." When we already have a very pervasive bias in our culture towards patriarchy and women being subservient to men, especially sexually, then discussions like this, IMHO, cause more harm than good. It doesn't take much looking on the internet to find sites and discussion boards where violence against women is not only overtly depicted through text and image but also actively discussed and even encouraged. Fantasize all you want but openly discussing how to fulfill rape fantasies in a swingers forum can only cause harm I think.

Friend collectors or swingers - - [quote=Utahldscouple]We are more hobbyists or friend collectors than DTF type. Count us as guilty.[/quote] Us too! We love friends! The more the merrier . . . IF we play . . . That is a bonus. As to collecting friends in our friends list . . . Not so much. Though we have certainly accepted friend requests from people we have yet to meet, we ONLY accept friend requests from people we would LIKE to meet . . . And . . . We frequently clean out our friends list when it becomes clear we will never meet. If the practice of looking for people in the LS to meet and be friends with is a bad thing . . . Color us guilty! We have no plans on changing that.

The Forum - For What It's Worth - [quote=FREERIDESTL] LTFOL...WTF are you talking about? LOL [/quote] guess you ain't been here long then: http://www.swingular.com/swingers/i/5254/ so whatever did happen to GSC and their tantrum?

St. Petersberg, Florida - - I am sure you will find some place to party at....Love the pics: too funny on the captions. I think there is a place called Taste-Buds not sure if it is still kickin or not? There is also a place called Playfull Swingers. These are two Clubs in the Florida area we know or knew of. Playfull Swingers is a pretty cool bar with theme rooms and a nice dance floor. BTW. maybe you can hit them with an email and see what is happening over there? If these are not in the area you are going to be you can google swingers and the city you are going to be in. We tried to contact some folks on here before we went to Florida to find out a few hot spots but no one bothered to write back? I guess looks are important even when giving someone a heads up or point in the right direction? Regards, HandM

lost with people - florida wanna be swingers - The use of the word "fake" is so subjective that at times it is can be rather difficult to determine what the person who used it actually meant. Here is a for instance: Your reference to your friends list. You hit the proverbial nail right on the head. YOU decided that you had a thing or two in common with the people in question. YOU decided to add them to your friends list. The people you are adding as friends have absolutely no choice in the matter. Some of them may have done the same to you in return, but adding someone to your friends list does not guarantee a meeting, or even correspondence does it? Some of them may not even want to be added to your friends list, imagine that. A lot of misguided people seem to think that the lack of replies indicates that the site is full of fakes! Come on now. Here is the reality of swinging: Forgive MY bluntness, but since we were speaking frankly I thought that it would be good to hear another point of view. 1. There are assholes in every state. Be vigilant, be smart about with whom you share your personal information, and learn from your experiences. Pic collectors, cheaters, people trying to convince others that they are something that they are not...Just remember, those people are most likely horny 15 year old boys posing as others so that they can giggle and jerk off... men and women (thats right, and women too) posing as couples to get dates...the list goes on... We lived in Lake Worth for several years, and I can tell you that there are as many low rent assholes there as there are here in MD. Thats swinging, so get over it. The sooner you do, the less it will irritate you. 2. People dont answer their e-mail. The lack of replies means that you havent made a connection with someone YET, or that they are not interested in you. Maybe they are busy and do not have the time to respond to all of their mail? Thats all. Yes we consider it rude to ignore someone, but trust me, you dont want to to hear back from some of them anyway. Consider it a blessing from whomever you worship and move on! A lot of people lack the basic social skills required to be polite to others, even by e-mail. Unfortunately, thats swinging too...on ANY website...so get over it. The sooner you do, the less it will irritate you. Your profile says you joined on January 30, 2006. If this is accurate then it seems to me that you are fairly new here...if only a few months. Perhaps you should be more patient? Your profile is rather sparse too...give it some attention and let your personality come through in it so that others can better judge if they are truly interested in getting to know you. People also read these forums quite a bit, even if they do not openly participate. The forums are an excellent way to make new friends, but it works both ways. Who wants to meet with someone who is complaining about "fakes" because they did not get a date? Isnt that just like the kid who doesnt get picked for kickball taking his big red ball and going home? It just seems to me that FIRST you should do everything in your power to seem appealing and approachable before you pass judgement about the intentions of others. None of this was meant to offend you, and if I did, then for that I apologize. It just seems to me that your time could be spent more constructively if you intend to meet people that you can see socially on this site. Luvbugs! (mR.) ;)

YOLO Cruise April 26 2009 - swingers cruise - we won the cruise in October. Can't wait for it!

upside down pineapple? - - sometimes a 'pineapple' can indicated a cannibals enthusiast I image the results of any accidental overlap of swingers & freaks would be hilarious

Singles posing as couples - - What about us? We're actually swingers who like to meet nice people. Sometimes even singles. Sometimes men. Sometimes women. sometimes couples. Some plump. Some skinny. We don't have ANY trouble sorting through the screwy ones. It's the [b][i][u]nice[/u][/i][/b] aspect that we seem to be having trouble finding on this forum recently. Sorry to stray from the OP's topic but it looks like it's heading south anyway.[em]Emo_42[/em]

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - The first step in fixing something is to recognize that it's a problem. -D-

Tampa area Swingers gulf Cruises - - Clothing Optional Lifetsyle friendly Cruises Prepare yourself fo the time of your life aboard an intermidiate cruising vessel. Clothing is optional and public lifestyle displays are encouraged!!! This is the ultimate swingers party for both couples and singles. We have 2 different cruise options in terms of length. First we have our most common 3day 2 night cruise. This cruise is open to singles and couples, although single men will be limited to 6. Each cruise can accomodate up to 28 people. Itinerary Day 1 Arrive at the port in St Petersburg and Board the Boat at 11:30am We will disembark at 12:30pm and head out to the gulf. Enjoy a light lunch while we make our way out to sea. Once we are 35 miles off shore, clothing becomes optional. Enjoy socializing, sunbathing, or even becoming playful!!! At 5pm we will arrive at our point of anchor and stop for the evening. Enjoy a heartiful dinner under the Gulf Skies. After dinner, it is time for more socializing, drinking, dancing and whatever else you fancy. Remember, this is a swingers cruise, so feel free to enjoy yourself wherever and however you please. Day 2 Out at sea We stay anbchored for the entire second day. Greta time to get some rays, swim, have fun, or just relax and recover from the first night. After all the second night is still coming!!! Breakfast, lunch and dinner will be served along with snacks all day long. Day 3 We will pull up anchor and start heading back at noon. This will give you about 4 more hours of uninhibited onboard freedom. We will dock back in St. Petersburg at approximately 5:30pm. Breakfast and lunch will be served. Our other package is exactly the same as above, except it is 4 days and 3 nights. We do have a single Guy package as well. They disembark 3 times a year and sell out fast. Our next single guy cruise is going to be on Febuary 18,2005. Single cruises allow for 15 single men to be a board. The rest of the guests are couples looking for that special guy to share intimate times with and single women. These too our oriented towards the swingers lifestyle. The singles cruise is 3 days and 2 nights. Prices: 3day/2night Single Laides- $125.00 Couples- $525.00 Single men- $850.00 4day/3night Single ladies- $200.00 Couples- $700.00 Single men- $925.00 Single male cruise- Single ladies- $100.00 Couples- $575.00 Single men- $880.00 All cruises are all inclusive. We have 3 meals a day and snacks throught the entire cruise. Alcohol is also provided, as well. The below are scheduled dates for our 2005 cruises. These sell out fast, so book now!!! (3/2 is the 3 day, 2 night, 4/3 is the 4 day, 3 night and SM is the single male cruise) 3/2 (departs 3 weeks in a row, then takes a week off) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 4/2 (departs once a month) Febuary 4, 2005 March 4, 2005 SM (Departs the same days as the 3/2) January 14, 2005 January 21, 2005 January 28, 2005 We have 3 boats in total to use for our weekly and monthly cruises. If you wish to charter a boat for private parties, please let us know. We will also be planning week long cruises to jamaica, bahamas, and mexico. All of these cruises will have land stays at lifestyle friendly resorts. Remember, we sail every friday. You can book up to 6 months in advance, and we do have payment plans avaiable. To reserve your space, we require a 25% deposit, the balance has to be paid in full one week prior to your cruise date. Single guys!!! Dont want to go as a single? we have several single ladies that have asked us to partner them up with a guy for the dcruises. Once you book your cruise, we will give you the contact info for each lady, so you can meet and hopefully find that perfect companion. These girls are real swingers, not escorts looking for someone to share their time with, after all, what fun would a swingers cruise be all alone. We do have single ladies looking for couples and other ladies, as well. You cannot beat these prices anywhere!!! Contact us now with your questions and to make your reservations now. We do give group discount rates if your group is larger than 10 people, ask us about it. Along with the cruise packages we offer, we will also be planning a land trip to Hedonism III in may, please email us to be added to the interest list for this vacation, as we will be sending the info out in the next week.