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Here's something Ive been curious about - - [quote=EVILDOERS]I think over the years we've pretty much seen and heard it all in regards to this subject and who is and isn't a "real" swinger. It kind of all boils down to semantics, doesn't it? Is it really that important to label it and each other? If swinging is a more of a mindset then yes, singles (male and female) are swingers too. I think, perhaps, that what some of the couples might be trying to get at (inelegantly IMO) is that in many ways perhaps singles don't really have as much invested in the process as couples do. As a swinging couple (remember it used to be called "wife swapping") you are in effect opening your relationship to some very real risk. If you don't think that's the case you either are in denial or haven't been around the scene that long. Singles simply aren't running the same risk although it could be argued they do have some risks, especially single females who at very least have some safety issues going into sometimes unknown situations alone. I guess you could argue single males also have a few risks as well. Also, of course, there is the whole argument of singles "not bringing anything to the table". An oft quoted argument to denote they don't have a partner to "swap". True enough in some regards but not entirely true in that they bring themselves and variety to the table for those couples not looking for a couples swap or who want to fulfill other fantasies or who have difficulty finding a fourway connection or attraction. Ultimately I think it's unnecessary for couples who don't want to play with singles (most often it's just single guys, a double standard perhaps?) to diss singles by saying they aren't swingers. And it's also probably not necessary for a few singles to complain that they aren't given an equal place at the table when they indeed do not come prepared to risk the same that couples must risk. Bottom line. Swing how you want to swing and don't swing how you don't want to swing. There's actually room for everyone even if we aren't all necessarily sitting at the same table.[/quote]Absolutely agree. Well said Mr Evil! BTW...Do you know if those X-Ray glasses really worked?? I always wondered...still do. I have particulair attraction to "landing strips"....They could be real handy sorting out potential play partners!

Vegas: Swingers circle or couples oasis? - Which do I prefer - As someone who lives here, Couples is the best place. As BLUEYEDGIRL said, they do not allow single men, which is what happens at some of the other clubs and the guys are mostly out of towners lurking around and thinking they are going to get lucky and tend to be somewhat intrusive. Couples keeps the place clean, has expanded the number of private rooms and still has a big hottub inside, the pool out back, a small buffet included if you get a little hungry and a BYOB bar that has mixers, water and sodas for you. The dance floor has a small stage and pole, a good DJ and sound system. The pool table is in the lounge and they have some adult videos on the TV off the lounge that has a sofa. The group areas has a swing and they do have condoms if you need extras.

Info for Noobs - - [quote=ERASEDPANTS]If singleness can turn single women in "Unicorns", then sweat can turn Norwegians into "Furries". Actually "Nick Fury" from The Avengers', was originally "Nick Furry". Due to a typo, Nick is now a gruff, angry leader with an eye patch instead of the loveable leader who dressed as a "shewolf" to fight the forces of evil, as he was suppose to be. [/quote] Hmmmm sounds like a bit of a stretch to me. So what do you get if you mix oatmeal with a Herzegovinian? Prince Albert in a can? You swingers, aside from being filthy disgusting perverts, are weird. I'm hoping President Trump makes you all register with the Department of Agriculture and makes you all wear easily identifiable black rings and ankle bracelets and takes away all your piercings and spandex hoochie coochie wear.

Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - The first step in fixing something is to recognize that it's a problem. -D-

So are you the gal who folks suspect? or the last person they c - Wish we could do polls on here??? - (Jamze) My parents know we are swingers. Ironically, they are even members of this site. No, we aren't true to the redneck stereotype! Lol (Jami) Her sister knows and wasn't surprised in the slightest but her parents do not know, at least not outright. If they did, they wouldnt ask or even talk about it. They tend to be silent Mormons who refuse to talk about sex with their kids. Oddly enough, we both agree. Talking to them about our sex life would be a little like talking to the pope about our being Pagan or something like that.

Why do people.... - Booty calls - [quote=JSTJIM72] Seriously.... We're supposed to be open minded, swinging people and this site is about as judgmental as anything I have ever seen. [/quote] First, about "rules" and things, and people complaining when someone "breaks" them. In any group of people there are going to be expected ways of behaving and doing things, no matter how open minded the people in the group are. For example, take a group of folks who pride themselves on being "free" and doing what they want to do, the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club. They have a set of bylaws maybe an inch thick, telling members what to do or not do. Swingers in general [b]are [/b]more open minded than most, or they wouldn't be doing this. That's why I like them so much. By being swingers, they automatically have at least one attitude that I really like. But not necessarily all swingers are all [b]that[/b] open minded, sometimes it's limited to paying no attention to who society says you should or shouldn't be having sex with. People have their prejudices and expectations regarding others, no matter what they're doing. This'll sound like [b]my[/b] rant, and I suppose to some extent it is. I've never posted a booty call, and I never will. And I've only ever responded to one of them. Why? Because I know it'll be a waste of time because of peoples' assumptions and expectations. Like you, I'm not uber any of those things, except maybe smooth if you're talking about body hair, which I doubt you are. I'm good looking, not fat, and am probably the most non-judgmental and open minded guy you'll ever run into. Unless someone does or says something just plain mean to or about someone else, then I get pissed off and my normal open mindedness gets kind of lost. But I [b]do[/b] have a really big issue finding people, let alone single girls, to play with. Why? because I'm [b]old[/b]. And pretty much everyone has all kinds of assumptions about that. It makes no difference that I don't act, or think, or have any of the attitudes someone "my age" is assumed to have. It doesn't matter that I look, based on what other people think, literally decades (well, 2 of them, that

Drinks - adult beverage? - Seriously no one said fireball? Who are you people? Fireball is like he official shot of swingers! Lol

Black Rings - Do Swingers really? - We have not purchased black rings, We both get approached quite frequently I guess we just put off that vibe

LDS Swingers Survey - Will any former/active LDS swingers take my survey? - The Mrs. took it. Anxious to see the results :)

Facebook group - - [quote=LIVNITUP]Seems like we read where there is a swingers Facebook group. Does anyone know if this true? If so, how do we find it?[/quote] There was one for the Daybreak area. It was a lot of fun! I wish I could find it again!