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Question - do you talk about other swingers? - Hehehe....
Tara - Your Cody is really a hunk and quite the ultimate in men... count me in, but make sure he knows that while I do much in the bedroom I'm NOT doing windows.... k?
K_T - Why yes I do :) Aren't I the lucky girl?
((Huggs)) to you all!
Enjoy!
-Te
Key West - Lifestyle Friendly Places in Key West - [quote=TONYIRINA]The best thing to do is hook up with some local nudist/swingers that have a boat and talk them into taking you out to the sandbar so you can get naked and drink till your completely pickled!! :)[/quote]
So, Ginger and I are planning on going down to Key West either this October or next... Do you guys have a boat?
How has swinging made your marriage better? - - Communication (REAL communication) is the key but still it's not enough if someone really wants to stray or outright leave. There's been an interesting discussion on another swing site we're on about some of this topic and an old timer on there (who's now divorced) brought up something that we found interesting and that seems to be fairly ubiquitous in the lifestyle. It turns out that most women who have been in the lifestyle for a decent length of time have at one time or another (multiple times for Ms. Evil and some of the ladies we've known for some time) been told by a play partner (more often by a single male or even more often a vanilla guy...lot's of swingers seem to get a thrill out of vanilla hunting I guess) that if they were THEIR partner they would NEVER share them with another man. Think about that for a minute. With the way most women are raised and the messages society pounds into their heads about love, romance, fidelity, etc., how powerful are those words are. In fact let's take a little poll. Are there any women who've been in the lifestyle for, say, at least 5 years and play fairly frequently who have never had a guy tell them or insinuate that? Just curious.
Las Vegas - Las Vegas - [quote=FUN4USXX2001]sounds good....any others?[/quote]
Yes, Couples Oasis keeps popping up in our search. Based on the description my concern is that it's more like the meet and greet style event that we find here in Utah. Not exactly the reason I would go to LV since we can find those here! :)
Another one that keeps popping up is [url=http://www.fantasylv.com/]Fantasy Lifestyle Venue[/url]. It looks like a smaller place and isn't as fancy as the others. But it looks a fair bit like our favorite club and the reviews make it sound like it attracts more experienced swingers and fewer newbies.
Search abilities for international swingers. - Just a suggestion. - Hi.
When searching you can only search for a US state. How can we find international couples???
Bea and Alex from The Netherlands
Secret Swingers Club Ogden, UT - Clubs - Swinger night or not, it’s a pretty cool basement club.
Are swingers moral? - Who determines what morals are? - [quote]Who determines what morals are?[/quote]
The golden rule is good but moral compasses are different therefore many feel as if they haven't been treated the way they would have liked to be by others.
Murder is one of the only non-moral actions agreed upon by most societies...
Sadly, it is usually determined by this quote from George Orwell...
"Who controls the past, controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.'"
New Swingers Club in Utah - Gauging interest in new club - We would definitely come when the wife is in town from work. Sounds like a great idea. Sounds like david and Marie are right on point.
Why so much hate in the swingers world... - - K_T, hmmm...now I can't wait to see what you and Mr. Two come up with, though remember Mrs. K_T and I probably have a few really good ideas of our own too ;)
The statistics of swinging - Relationship longevity in the lifestyle. - One thing we've noticed (and even had a few close calls with ourselves) is that, once the initial thrill of swinging/swapping wears off a little bit, many people look for the NEXT big thrill...usually separate play. And THAT, if you're not really prepared for it and don't go into it with your eyes wide open, is when things can get really sticky.
I have an acquaintance in the lifestyle who is a professor of physiology who likes to talk at length about the "love hormone", oxytocin, and how powerful it can be in some lifestyle circumstances. I guess a subset of this issue might be how many swingers who break up do so because they fall in love with someone else in the lifestyle.
One particularly insidious behavior that we've, unfortunately, encountered are men, both single AND married, in the lifestyle who attempt to ply Ms. Evil by saying things like, "If you were mine I would never want to share you.". There are probably a fair number of women (and probably men) who might be susceptable to that type of talk if they're insecure in their primary relationship.
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