So Im a newish member to the LS and wonder about how/if most of you handle sexual health/safety? Yeah yeah, we can all say wrap it but ladies, when playing with multiple partners, isn't it risky to penetrate both women without stopping, changing condoms, etc? I've met people who refuse to give a blow job without a rubber on. I know a lot of men don't like wearing a condom or cannot wear a condom. Thoughts, opinions? How safe has it been to play? Most profiles SAY Drug and Disease free but to trust people at their word in this day and age is pretty scary to me.
Good topic...I know a lot of people put a condom on it, but what's the point when you have sucked their dick or eaten their pussy with no protection? This one has always concerned me.
Regular testing and getting to know people are your best defenses aside from the obvious condom use. We've been playing for a year now and haven't had any problems with sti's
POSSIBITITYS wrote:
Regular testing and getting to know people are your best defenses aside from the obvious condom use. We've been playing for a year now and haven't had any problems with sti's
The first time is the one that scares me.
POSSIBITITYS wrote:
Regular testing and getting to know people are your best defenses aside from the obvious condom use. We've been playing for a year now and haven't had any problems with sti's
Testing would be after the fact though wouldn't it? Condoms are really only there to protect the guys if multiple people are involved. and like Shenaniganizer says, oral isn't exactly safe either. I agree on the getting to know others but does that really help? I'm sounding like a phobic prude but I'm the exact opposite! I just want to be smart AND join orgy's and everything else I can find! SAFELY. The news report made it sound like stds only jump on you if you play in separate rooms lol.
Nothing is 100% safe in the lifestyle. If you're going to play you're going to have risks that you have to accept. We choose to get to know people before we play to try and asses how much of a risk we are taking. We get tested regularly to make sure we haven't contracted anything. If you choose to play with people who also test regularly your chances of contracting something is decreased. Don't feel like you have to take someones word for anything. If something feels off its ok to decline, also use common sense, if someone doesn't bathe regularly chances are they aren't taking care of other health issues as well. This has worked well for us.
ILLUSTRATOR wrote:
Even knowing the person you're with doesn't matter.
We had an experience with one who promised he used a condom with everyone else because he understood that we were only with him and each other and, if he wasn't safe, The bareback play would end. Guess what happened next? Luckily, what he gave us was treatable. The shock was when he sheepishly blamed us for giving it to him.
You're not safe in any relationship if the other person is also seeing other people. And even the ones you think won't lie to you, just might. If you're participating in an orgy, especially, you can't be 100% sure. Best choice for anyone is to be selective, Unicorn73. Very selective. That's how the ones who are smart stay healthy and happy.
We agree completely
ILLUSTRATOR wrote:
Even knowing the person you're with doesn't matter.
We had an experience with one who promised he used a condom with everyone else because he understood that we were only with him and each other and, if he wasn't safe, The bareback play would end. Guess what happened next? Luckily, what he gave us was treatable. The shock was when he sheepishly blamed us for giving it to him.
You're not safe in any relationship if the other person is also seeing other people. And even the ones you think won't lie to you, just might. If you're participating in an orgy, especially, you can't be 100% sure. Best choice for anyone is to be selective, Unicorn73. Very selective. That's how the ones who are smart stay healthy and happy.
I agree. My very first experience had a condom malfunction. I sort of jumped up and left them. Still feel pretty terrible about that. Of course risks are always in play. I suppose I'm just wondering how common it is for something to show up within the lifestyle. It may be that because everyone does play, most people are careful so it's better than the vanilla community. That's one thing I absolutely love about the lifestyle. No need to lie & play games! Those vanilla boys must be freakin filthy! (LOL I joke! Don't yell at me for that. Lol). I hear a lot of men say they don't like condoms though. Do you run into that a lot?
DELICIOUSLYWET wrote:
We have been in the lifestyle for ever 10 years, and we just recently got tested, again, for everything, including the HPV and HSV viruses, we all worry about, and we show no evidence of having ever contracted anything. We are picky and we get tested frequently, but really, we have also probably just been lucky. We cannot say we have been as careful as possible, because frankly, if you are having non monogamous sex with new people, every year, you are taking a risk. If you're limiting your partners to just a few people over the span of your swinging lifespan, you are taking a risk. Swinging carries with it some additional risk. Be honest with yourselves, all of your partners and your physicians.
Yeah, even if you are with just one person who swings, their partners and their partners are all a risk to you too. Just wondering if it's a common thing that comes up? The news sure had to point that out! Sheesh. Like vanilla people never deal with that. It was irrelevant really.
At LEAST 2 out of 3 adults have at least one form of HSV (there isn't really a big difference between oral and genital HSV, btw...both can be transmitted sexually or even just by touching with fingers, tongues, etc.) or at least carry antibodies for exposure to the HSV virus according to the W.H.O.. HPV is at LEAST (likely more) as ubiquitous. And there is no test for HPV in men. Additionally very few STI panels routinely test for HSV (because it's to common) let alone HPV (that would entail a pap smear for women and...nothing for men).
I've never had a cold sore in my life. My mother had frequent cold sores when I was a kid. I would guess that there is a pretty good chance that I carry antibodies to HSV. Am I infected? Could I potentially infect a partner with HSV? Most of us have probably had similar encounters with this virus at some point in our lives with a friend or family member and been blissfully unaware.
The bottom line is, if you want to play in this sandbox you should either do it knowing the REAL risks or be very good at denial. Condoms are great protection against HIV. Not so much for HSV and HPV. And yes both of those viruses (and other scary bugs) can be transmitted through unprotected oral sex...hell, even kissing!
I've never had a cold sore in my life. My mother had frequent cold sores when I was a kid. I would guess that there is a pretty good chance that I carry antibodies to HSV. Am I infected? Could I potentially infect a partner with HSV? Most of us have probably had similar encounters with this virus at some point in our lives with a friend or family member and been blissfully unaware.
The bottom line is, if you want to play in this sandbox you should either do it knowing the REAL risks or be very good at denial. Condoms are great protection against HIV. Not so much for HSV and HPV. And yes both of those viruses (and other scary bugs) can be transmitted through unprotected oral sex...hell, even kissing!
But you have to ask yourself which is worse, fucking people who are more than likely infected with HSV and HPV viruses (or at least have the antibodies) or eating hotdogs that contain human DNA?
Human DNA in hotdogs
Human DNA in hotdogs
We never play with out condoms while getting to know the person or couple. Once we make them more regular than we move to the next step of no condom since our greater fantasies feel better with out the condom. By that time we hope the person or couple is being honest of being disease free.
This is exactly what I did not want to read.. I hope this is fake news because if it’s real news then.. “oh boy”
That ad, "take your world with you for less" seems fitting for the topic. 🤣
Yes, BBC. Fuzzy Hairy Balls Disease is real and it's tragic. The only way to prevent it is to take two Nair tablets every morning.
SHENANIGANIZER wrote:LOL.. Yeah no kidding.
That ad, "take your world with you for less" seems fitting for the topic. 🤣
Being sexually active is risky the more Partners you have the higher the risk. I think it's important to play safe to help minimize the risk.......... that would be yes you should switch condoms going from one female to another you should also clean off sex toys hands going to one person to another.....BV bacterial vaginitis is not considered an STD however it spread (if some one has it) to both male and females if the practices above are not adhered to. It is that a stronger than normal sex smell a little on the fishy side... some people may have no signs and symptoms just during sex they get a wave of that smell. You must gets a certain kind of antibiotics from your doctor to get rid of it.