Swingers Forum - video chat with the iphone 4 or HTC Evo 4g...can it work?

Both iPhone 4g's need to be connected to wifi in order to use the FaceTime feature. It looks good and there is just a tiny delay.

The waiting list sucks or the iPhone 4 sucks?

Have you kept up with any of the current news regarding the iPhone 4 or at&t? I sold both of my iPhones months ago and paid the early termination fee to leave at&t. Best choice a consumer can make right now. Now, an Apple fanboy would whole heartedly disagree. All I can say to the original poster is, don't waste your money. Buy a laptop with a webcam for your online masturbation sessions.

@FRI3NDSPLUS That is muthaf***ing hilarious. It about sums up the iphone4 and all those fanboys out there. haha Thanks for that.

the big question for me is when is your wife going to do her next show so I can watch? lol

We are new to ATT and just got the Iphone 4. For us it is working out great. We have had no issues with our phones like everyone seems to be having. Since I am gone for 24-48 hours at a time we use the video chat-face time when I have time at work. Just our 2 cents. Have a great day! J and S

The iphone does have a ton of more apps...Most of them are repetitive trash. There's only so many times your can replicate tweeter or facebook before it get's to be redundant.

We have the Evo, and I can access the webpage, but it wouldn't load the chat. I will keep trying because that is a good question and I want the answer to it as well. Paul

Just as an FYI, the chat feature here will never run on an iPhone unless someone finds a way to decode flash media server streams with Obj C.
The iPhone doesn't and probably never will have Flash support. All the other data phones will get it eventually; but never on an iPhone.
Adobe hates Apple with Vengence. No Adobe means no Flash.

TEQUILAROSE wrote:

Ammend,

And yet it's still one up on droid phones. haha! The Iphone (3G) is better than the droid phones in my opinion because even without the "repetitive apps", it still has tons more apps than the droid phones. Hype is what you get with the droid phones. Everything else is offered on every phone. Again you can have the fastest phone in the world with super computer in it and if it lacks the software and functionality it will lose out.
-D-

You're right everything else is offered on other phones. For example, I can hold my Droid Incredible anyway I'd like, without tape on the side or a case, and still get reception.

DEVAL-X wrote:

Also, as a rather sad aside.. The iPhone 4 is 3G. It cannot handle At&t's soon-to-be announced 4G network.

Its the only reason I don't already have one. How lame.

Click the link below.

Here's a little link to refute that

AMMEND wrote:

You're right everything else is offered on other phones. For example, I can hold my Droid Incredible anyway I'd like, without tape on the side or a case, and still get reception.

Haha...it's not an issue if you have only three fingers that are well-spaced apart. Silly five-fingered humans blocking transmissions of their own phones...the sheer audacity....

TEQUILAROSE wrote:

I am just saying why the i-phone continues to dominate the market. It's a simple matter of support and library. ;0

You sure about that Don?

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/technologylive/post/2010/05/android-outselling-iphone-blackberry-number-one/1

Apple's market domination will not last much longer

TEQUILAROSE wrote:

THOUGHTGARDEN wrote:

No Flash support means I never have and never will buy an iPhone...c'mon, seriously, how can you fully browse many websites or maximize their content without Flash? I agree with Deval...it's completely lame.

Personally, I'm happy that other products have come along to give Apple a run for it's money...it's grown way too narcisistic and overblown...it deserves a challenge.

Again, there are flash apps for the i-phone. Never say never. I do agree there should always be challenges to technology. Just like Mac's making PC's look like shit lately (for years actually, to those that know about computers and not just what is marketed to them). I am not saying the droid is inferior. I am just saying why the i-phone continues to dominate the market. It's a simple matter of support and library.
http://techcrunch.com/2009/10/05/adobe-shows-off-flash-apps-for-iphone-yes-you-read-that-right

No Don, there really aren't. There are -no- Flash apps for the iPhone. Zero. Zilch. None. There are applications that stream video and/or audio (i.e. Hulu+, Youtube, etc), but there are -no- Flash apps. An attempt was made to port Gnash (GNU Flash) to the iPhone, but it requires jailbreaking, and isn't complete Flash support.

Oh, with regard to the link of Adobe shows off flash support: that was -before- Apples completely fscking ridiculous change to their end user license agreement. Click through your own link, then click through to the Adobe Labs page. Adobe has closed off it's public beta, and is completely re-engineering the product. It will -not- have iPhone packager support. Period. Ever.

Adobe is not going to support it for the same reason I've stopped developing for iPhone. Interestingly enough, it's also the reason most analysts state that Apple will lose market dominance.
Apple now requires that all applications on the App Store be originally written and compiled in Objective C. Developers must also make the source code available for review by Apple.

Know what that means? It means Adobe's Flash to iPhone compiler (aka Packager) violates Apples licensing terms.

Apple pulled this shit just months before Adobe's planned launch of Flash CS5. Their headlining feature was iPhone support.

That is why Flash will -never- be supported on iPhone (or iPad) devices.

Many of the development shops that released iPhone apps are no longer targetting the iPhone. They're targetting Droid. Know why? Droid has -zero- restrictions on the language used for implementation.

Apple just levied at tax against all mobile software developers. If you want to write your app to run on any device -except- iPhone, target the JVM. If you want to target the iPhone, you must hire an Objective C development team.

EDIT:
Addendum: replace -never- with "unless Apple changes their licensing restrictions"

Fwiw, Flash is now available on most Smart Phones, except of course, the iPhone or iPad.

Jail-breaking the phone proves it can and is being done. Spirit/Frash are just one of those methods. If flash is important to people, it will and is being ported over.

Nice strawman here Don. My argument was never that you couldn't run flash on an iPhone. Matter of fact, rather than jailbreak, you could always install Linux on it directly, and no porting would be necessary. It's just a small PC after all.

With regards to Frash, it doesn't even work on iPhone, and it's too buggy to even want to experiment with.

Even if he ends up turning it into an amazing tool, Flash still won't be available on the iPhone. Sure, you could kludge it in there, but most people lack the skills or wouldn't consider trying it (being as Apple reserves the right to brick their phone at any time if they did)

The issue at hand here is whether an iPhone 4 user could access the Swingular video chat, and the point still stands that they currently cannot, and in all probability never will. Apple has no plans of changing their licensing terms.

As an interesting aside, I dug a little deeper into the CS5 bit, and they recently released it. Including the Packager for iPhone. Guess what though.. there are still no Flash based apps available for the iPhone. Know why? Apple will not allow them to be uploaded to the App Store. Adobe has already created a Flash plugin for iPhone and iPad Safari. You can't download it though. Nor can they distribute it.

Again, you, like most other fan boys are happy with your little magic toy and need to justify to yourself why you bought it.

I'm really curious why you assume I have a new toy of any kind. The only thing I'd consider myself a fanboy of would be certain women. I'm a systems architect, and I just dislike telling the execs 'No, we can't write our corporate applications to work on the iPhone unless you want to hire an additional development team.' It's not fun telling the CEO -no-. I'm still using a Blackberry for no other reason than it doesn't crash as often as our other devices.

I will support Android based phones, and Blackberrys. Even Windows Mobile phones. We can code in Scala, C, Python, whatever. The only phones I won't consider part of our mobile strategy are iPhones and iPads. I never have to justify buying them because I won't.

The truth the two aren't really that much different.

This really seems like a silly comparison. iPhone compared to Droid? Akin to saying that apples and red toolboxes aren't really that much different. An iPhone is a device, Droid is an operating system and platform. It's a very important distinction. An iPhone will always be a pop-tart that stops functioning if you touch the edges. You can find droid running on HTC's, Motorola's, Samsungs, etc.. you know, those devices designed by experienced engineers with decades of mobile experience. iPhone will keep being designed by people who couldn't imagine you'd ever want to do more than one thing at a time on your smart phone. (Doesn't multi-threading date back to the 70s?)

I've seen both phones and I would still buy the i-phone because of the shear availability of apps. That's what is important to me.

Which I'm sure is why Linux is the Desktop Operating System installed by default on the majority of new PC's today, because people demand the OS with the greatest application availability... oh .. wait.

People aren't so concerned about the app count in a mobile store. They're concerned about getting apps they need to do the things they want. I only need one personal banking application. And, while it's great to be able to choose between 10,000 different shitty word document editors, I would prefer a much smaller selection of higher quality applications. Apple is forcing developers to write apps in their toy programming language which nearly no one is formally trained to develop in. If that's not a near guarantee of buggy software, I'm not sure what is. They may as well force them to write everything in COBOL or ILE RPG IV.

It's good to hear from you again too Don.
Oh, and Dev and I have been together for years now. Where have you been? hehe

So sorry I have not been on. It was my birthday yesterday. And to my surprise I got a Iphone 4 for my birthday! I would have to say I'm really impressed so far everything I expected... It's really fast even though I have they thing full of music. Internet it super fast and facetime rocks!!!! So for your Iphone haters. I have seen that so called amazing HTC phone. Yeah not impressed. big screen whooooooo! The Iphone is way ahead of the curve. Also about the so called 4g...... Read about it sometime. It's not faster than 3g its just a different way they broadcast.... Nothing that great. So anyway that's just my opinion and to each there own.

So I tried to go into video chat on my phone. The problem is that it needs adobe flash player to work. Unfortunately apple does not have anything like flash so you can't even use it. Sucks.

FUCKCHASTITY wrote:

Mrs. Chastity likes giving shows in video chat, but I'm usually working at the time and can't watch or participate. I was wondering if anyone has been able to use their iphone 4g or HtC Evo 4g to access video chat. If so, how did the front facing camera work? It seems to me that if you could access video chat on one of those phones, and are able to use the front facing camera like a webcam, then you could participate in the fun to be had in video chat no matter where you are! You could watch, or you could put on a show no matter where you are, as long as your phone has a signal. Can this be done? Anyone already doing it?
Tell me what you think! Am I a genius, or has someone already thought of this? Will it work? Cause I'll buy one of those phones TODAY if it can!

VIDEO CHAT ON MOBILE PHONES

Unfortunately, most, if not all, video chat applications run on Flash. Apple does not and will not support Flash, therefore, you will never be able to enjoy video conferencing or anything of the sort on an Iphone or Ipad unless you 'jailbreak' your phone which the majority of Iphone users will not end up doing or Apple changes it's mind, which most likely will not happen. As for mobile phones that utilize windows 7 phone, Android OS & Web OS, they will all soon have Flash Mobile available. However, without access to Flash Mobile, we do not know if Video Chat will work with it. It may be too memory/processor intensive for such applications.

There is a future however. HTML5 spec has some upcoming developments that will allow us to build video chat applications without using Flash as long as you have a supported web browser. This is all new stuff and still not finalized however Swingular is in the process of building such an app. If it becomes reality, you will be able to enjoy video chat on your phone as long as your phone has a capable web browser.

So, to ultimately answer the original question, it it not currently possible to do video chat on any mobile phone. This may change in the coming weeks when Adobe releases Flash Mobile.