In a recent thread, the topic of personal identification was raised.
Undeniably a topic that impacts everyone, I would think it would be of particular interest to
Undeniably a topic that impacts everyone, I would think it would be of particular interest to
I don't really see it as an issue of law abiding citizens "fearing" a National ID system. I see it more as an unnecessary invasion of privacy that is a further step down a slippery slope imposing on personal rights to privacy. The Patriot Act began as a supposedly good faith effort to assist law enforcement fight terrorism and let to an unprecedented invasion of personal privacy and direct violation of both the first and fourth amendments of the US Constitution. Furthermore, the government acknowledges that unknown foreign entities have already hacked our national security computer systems so I feel that a National ID system would open up our citizens to even more potential abuse and malicious acts. Just my two cents.
I only have 1 question: What underwear?
I totally agree with hooligans but you you for got cell phones pc's and that dam on star sys
I have only one comment - a question, actually:
Remember Nazi Germany, when you couldn't travel across ANY border (state-to-state?) without "papers"?
There's always a first step to anything.
Remember Nazi Germany, when you couldn't travel across ANY border (state-to-state?) without "papers"?
There's always a first step to anything.
REASONABLE suspicion by WHOSE standards and definition?
EAGERTWO wrote:
We now have an illegal Kenyan as our president If that doesn't scare the hell out of you nothing will!
Yes we do - and yes it does.
i come to the thread hoping for sexy things hiding in panty drawers and get national IDs? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :P
Kitty, we still love ya - no matter WHAT you were looking for.
Crash, a couple things naughty Kendra didn't get to. Ronald Reagan funded and trained the mujahideen (who he called freedom fighters) through the ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence, the largest intelligence service in Pakistan) to fight the Soviet Union. We funded anyone willing to kill Russians, it didn't matter is your view of the world was backward and dangerous, if you shot Russians, we were willing to train and fund you.
Then you look where Kendra was going, into Saudia Arabia. 14 of the 19 hijackers and their leader is from Saudia Arabia. We have major military installations on what they consider Holy Land, a place they beleive (right or wrong) no infidel should defile.
9/11 was blowback.
Japan and America where competeing in South East Asia for resourses. We may have been militarily isolationist (but isolationist only means staying out of other peoples fights, you can fight all you want alone), but we were far from economic isolationist. In 1940 we put trade embargos on Japan. In 1941 we and a couple other countries froze Japanese assets, preventing them from buying oil, which would, in time, cripple its army and make its navy and air force completely useless. They tried to get a peaceful resoultion to get their stuff back. In december 1941, they came for revenge. Japan understood the need for raw material, which we were trying to compete for them in that part of the world. Japan wanted to be the Power in East Asia, but we wanted it as well. We wern't "leaving them alone" either.
Then you look where Kendra was going, into Saudia Arabia. 14 of the 19 hijackers and their leader is from Saudia Arabia. We have major military installations on what they consider Holy Land, a place they beleive (right or wrong) no infidel should defile.
9/11 was blowback.
Japan and America where competeing in South East Asia for resourses. We may have been militarily isolationist (but isolationist only means staying out of other peoples fights, you can fight all you want alone), but we were far from economic isolationist. In 1940 we put trade embargos on Japan. In 1941 we and a couple other countries froze Japanese assets, preventing them from buying oil, which would, in time, cripple its army and make its navy and air force completely useless. They tried to get a peaceful resoultion to get their stuff back. In december 1941, they came for revenge. Japan understood the need for raw material, which we were trying to compete for them in that part of the world. Japan wanted to be the Power in East Asia, but we wanted it as well. We wern't "leaving them alone" either.
Is it possible that everyone is missing the forest for the trees? Big picture?
The world we live in today has changed drastically from just a few decades ago. Technology is developing at a break-neck pace and monitoring, much less policing it, is near non-existent.
Terrorism has redefined warfare. The internet has redefined communication. The world and vast amounts of knowledge are at our fingertips in the privacy (less internet eavesdropping) of our own homes.
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The world we live in today has changed drastically from just a few decades ago. Technology is developing at a break-neck pace and monitoring, much less policing it, is near non-existent.
Terrorism has redefined warfare. The internet has redefined communication. The world and vast amounts of knowledge are at our fingertips in the privacy (less internet eavesdropping) of our own homes.
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CHIRK, I can't disagree with what you said, but all I can say is:
"I'm old enough to remember when this used to be America".
"I'm old enough to remember when this used to be America".
Nice to see some very astute and intelligent responses to this, despite the "birthers"! Some folks are so selective in the quality and origination of there information...
I remember a while back when the wire tapping and eavesdropping was being discovered and there were people saying "I dont care if anybody hears what conversation I'm having with my grandmother".
Well that was during the previous admin. so I wonder if they still feel the same way now that the pendulum has swung the other way?? - especially the "birthers"!
The founding documents have the word Liberty written all over them - ever looked up the definition of the word Liberty? Give it look - and by the way, its only a bunch of ideas written on a piece of paper, its up to US to make it work - or not!
EVERYBODY desires (and deserves) some privacy of some kind about something at some time!!!
LIVE AND LET LIVE, and stop those who get in the way of that!
I remember a while back when the wire tapping and eavesdropping was being discovered and there were people saying "I dont care if anybody hears what conversation I'm having with my grandmother".
Well that was during the previous admin. so I wonder if they still feel the same way now that the pendulum has swung the other way?? - especially the "birthers"!
The founding documents have the word Liberty written all over them - ever looked up the definition of the word Liberty? Give it look - and by the way, its only a bunch of ideas written on a piece of paper, its up to US to make it work - or not!
EVERYBODY desires (and deserves) some privacy of some kind about something at some time!!!
LIVE AND LET LIVE, and stop those who get in the way of that!
Wouldnt this be a political subject?
What are you afraid of?
What are you afraid of?