:v Its so difficult to be a single male trying to get into the swinging life style.
Your messages are never answered even as tactful and funny as they are.
No one pays attention to you, Nor takes you seriously. Its a sad spot to be.
If i had a choice i would have a girlfriend. Though its quite difficult to do as a Flight attendent. :s let alone Finding a significant other who would also be interested in the swinging lifestyle.
How did some of the couples on here get into swinging?
How do you couples react when a single man contacts you?
What other men are in the same predicament as i?
Your messages are never answered even as tactful and funny as they are.
No one pays attention to you, Nor takes you seriously. Its a sad spot to be.
If i had a choice i would have a girlfriend. Though its quite difficult to do as a Flight attendent. :s let alone Finding a significant other who would also be interested in the swinging lifestyle.
How did some of the couples on here get into swinging?
How do you couples react when a single man contacts you?
What other men are in the same predicament as i?
nothing wrong with single men, but a few give them all a bad name. For instance....our profile says we dont want to be contacted by single men...well everyday there are a few that for some damn reason think they are an exception and send a friend invite...and some of tthe shit the send in emails...no wonder they arent getting any
See if i want to get laid... I do not need a swingers site to do it. I am here for the fact to get myself in the swingers lifestyle. Who knows maybe meet a girl who is possibly able to liberate me from the single male status 
. I just always had a fantasie about a orgy / swingers party.
. I just always had a fantasie about a orgy / swingers party.thanks for the info 
Already ahead of you on that! but I hope other men see this.
Already ahead of you on that! but I hope other men see this.And just think, in another year you will be old enough to enter a nightclub! (Word has it there are girls in those nightclubs).... but it's just a rumor.
And since you say in your profile you have "Knowledge in all "enrogus" spots" you should be a real hit with the ladies and guys looking for erogenous smart people.
Rock On Garth!
And since you say in your profile you have "Knowledge in all "enrogus" spots" you should be a real hit with the ladies and guys looking for erogenous smart people.
Rock On Garth!
baha Finally someone shows how to spell erogenous lol
well I would just like to say being a single woman isnt much better. Seems like the only emails i get are from married men trying to cheat. And they lie about being married but hey ruined one marriage so not going there. Just hang in and just let it go. Till then just fly its safer anyway. lol
I feel your pain man, I am a single guy too and im not on here at all to get laid. Just looking to meet some cool people to hang out with and if something happens then so be it. People on here look at the single guy like we are some kind of disease lol.
Alot of us have bi wives, so another swingin schlong just isnt in the equasion, but good luck and HANG in there, theres plenty of fun to go around..eventually
All I will say to the above is the to the previous comment about age being an issue with single men and swinging is bullshit. While yes look at age and yes he is young but this day and age they tend to have more experience then I dreamt of at that age. I am sorry but come on we are entering a new sexual revalution and sorry but our society history and culture dictates or has its views on sex and how we as individuals on acceptable behavior. So that being said there was a time when shows like I love Lucy had them sleeping in seperate beds yet she ends up pregnant. Wow wonder how that happened. Lets not forget the 70's free love and come on in the eighties never would of seen one of todays Victoria Secret commericials on or let alone the sex scenes on todays soap opera's. So I am sorry but age is not an issue I must say and sex was torture or more work then should be. Been with older men who new nothing or barely the basics and wanted a teacher or hell ok teaching a monkey to dance would of been easier. While the younger need no assistance or guidance and has the stamina of a bull and the excitement and energy of a bunny. But then again flips both ways on each side. So today saying age is an issue is not true, its location, local society and personal views.
No but I might be visiting there soon with my benifits.... Maybe tomarow mostlikly, depending on the flight loads. Wildcat is going to help me out in that area. So I should be there, Hopefully me and her will head to some partys and I can meet you all.
I am a single male, so i kinda understand you. however alot of "single males" do not read the profile's. thus resulting in alot of frustration. i try to read all the profiles of those i am interested in, i do make mastakes like every one. when i was on here with my ex wife we got alot of emails from people that i believe just looked at our pic's and that was it. any way dont give up, and good luck.
ok lets just agree then single men have a issue getting laid on this site. U cant read, society whatever the reason. And neither a few single females for various reasons. So I just say lets all bring the 70's back. PEACE, LOVE AND HARMONY one person if necessary or party at a time. lol
This is the mister speaking...
I have issue with singles males, How are they swinging? They are just looking for a cheap fuck. No courting the woman, no taking her out to dinner, flowers, just hay let me come over and fuck your wife. Oh sure they say I love to please. I'm slow, well hung, etc. So what are they saying? I have all the attributes that your husband doesn't.
I admit there are times when a single male has their place. But to call them swingers is just not accurate. How by any stretch can they be called swingers?
I just think they should be place in a category! Allowed to receive emails when they are requested, then only allowed to reply.
Then they can show up, not have to pay the cost of a prostitute, no dinner, flowers, and fuck the wife.
Bit harsh. I'm on pain meds today for a surgery, will likely wake up in a few hours and delete the whole thing.
I have issue with singles males, How are they swinging? They are just looking for a cheap fuck. No courting the woman, no taking her out to dinner, flowers, just hay let me come over and fuck your wife. Oh sure they say I love to please. I'm slow, well hung, etc. So what are they saying? I have all the attributes that your husband doesn't.
I admit there are times when a single male has their place. But to call them swingers is just not accurate. How by any stretch can they be called swingers?
I just think they should be place in a category! Allowed to receive emails when they are requested, then only allowed to reply.
Then they can show up, not have to pay the cost of a prostitute, no dinner, flowers, and fuck the wife.
Bit harsh. I'm on pain meds today for a surgery, will likely wake up in a few hours and delete the whole thing.
As many single men I have seen on this site you have your work cut out for you, But you will do fine. Put forth some effort, go to meet and greets, get to know people there and get your foot in the door into the lifestyle. When people get to know you and see how fun you are to be around things will get awhole lot easier for you. That goes for couples to. You will never get anywhere if you dont go out and mingle. But dude all I can say is if you get into the lifestyle and meet someone to turn you into a couple, Never I repeat Never give up the Mile high club. You get to travel, and play 30,000 feet above the earth how cool is that.
How many couples have received a message titled: "Let's Fuck!"? We have. Doesn't work with us.
It's not like couples are desperate for guys; they are easy to find. But a nice guy who can control himself and act decently is harder to find.
I agree that bringing a girl with you makes it much easier.
It's not like couples are desperate for guys; they are easy to find. But a nice guy who can control himself and act decently is harder to find.
I agree that bringing a girl with you makes it much easier.
To offer a gentler reply. I guess for us, when having a couple over, then you still get the man to assist in pleasuring the wife, yet then you also have a lady to play with as well for both of us. or at least someone to talk to as you watch your wife play...
And for the record, we have had a single male come over and it was great. but just found it not our thing. to some it works and its not for us to judge in any manner. we are likely freakier than most...
And for the record, we have had a single male come over and it was great. but just found it not our thing. to some it works and its not for us to judge in any manner. we are likely freakier than most...
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Kudos to both posts! We could not have said it better.
Kudos to both posts! We could not have said it better.
i Like to thank everyone for there imput. THis is great! Even the negative ones i appreciate. Every one has there right to what they belive. And I need a spell check..... :-)
its like this you can fuck my wife/girlfriend if i can fuck yours, if you dont have a girl for me to fuck then why would i let you fuck mine, unless iam some pervert that just likes to watch my wife get fucked.which is the case sometimes, but the perverts are usually looking for guys with big dicks.
Here is my opinion based on my experience and as everyone knows opinions are like assholes everyone has one and if you don't like mine keep moving. The majority of single men that I have come across either can't get a girlfriend or just don't want to put in the work to getting and keeping one. Neither of which I am willing to put up with. Then you have those single men that are only in it for sex or haven
we have the same experience as TEASIN. many no shows (males and females) , to the point that we normally wont bother with singles unless they have some feedback from others. if we chance it on a single with no feedback they need to have a well put together profile, plenty of well done photos, and enough bother to check spelling (when in doubt read the definition; "know" and "no" are not the same thing (there is/was a profile here that really said "I no how to please wemen"))
Well I am tired of being 'singled' as a single guy. There must be a 'reasonable' way to get a proper start in this lifestyle. I know I don't have 'cooties'. Not even any clubs to try out in this area, and certainly no social gatherings for getting acquainted. I'm open to suggestions and even 'teaming' with another.
Yeah honestly Pitmommy we ARE all perverts are we not? We do not practice the "norm". So honestly save the name calling. We don't entertain the random single mail email, friend request ect. If we want that we will look for you. Mainly this is because, and this is just restating what others have said before, we just don't want to CONSTANTLY wade the the waves of BS. If we contact it means we are ready to deal with it 
. Many in the lifestyle do not see the single male as a swinger. I agree only in part. What makes one a swinger? To us anyone that shares their most intimate part of their lives would be a swinger. But that being said, unfortunately MOST single males are of the "bad" variety. Singles, be it a guy or girl, really are of this type of "swinger". Don't remember who said it here earlier but, the "too lazy" to find a relationship or invest the time, money, ect. I don't envy any real, genuine, intelligent, articulate, respectful single at all. You unfortunately have to deal with the reputation of your forebearers so to speak. Those that are all the above and show patience usually end up never having to worry about being "included". And sorry whomever said earlier that single guys are first invited to parties, but you are definately sorely mistaken in that arena, but whatever you have to tell yourself.
Leo and Ree
. Many in the lifestyle do not see the single male as a swinger. I agree only in part. What makes one a swinger? To us anyone that shares their most intimate part of their lives would be a swinger. But that being said, unfortunately MOST single males are of the "bad" variety. Singles, be it a guy or girl, really are of this type of "swinger". Don't remember who said it here earlier but, the "too lazy" to find a relationship or invest the time, money, ect. I don't envy any real, genuine, intelligent, articulate, respectful single at all. You unfortunately have to deal with the reputation of your forebearers so to speak. Those that are all the above and show patience usually end up never having to worry about being "included". And sorry whomever said earlier that single guys are first invited to parties, but you are definately sorely mistaken in that arena, but whatever you have to tell yourself. Leo and Ree
Sooo I am "too lazy" to find a relationship or invest the time, money, ect. because I am no longer 'married' in a lifestyle that I was not meant to stay in? Sorry, I would not have spent the time or money to be here if I was lazy and was not willing to invest the time, money, etc.
I usually avoid this topic due to the ugliness of the comments that usually comes along with it. That being said here is how i feel on this matter. I believe single males are sometimes necessary in this lifestyle weather or not husbands want to believe it or not their women have fantasies too. and sure you can get another couple to do a dp on your wife sometimes but in most cases a single male is easier to line up. Then there is the gang bang without single males this will rarely happen if ever because there is not alot of options for that manny married men to get "hall passes" at the same time. Now this being said there are a few rules that single males should really follow.
1.read profiles and respect others wishes..
2.do what you say your going to do if a couple has to work for you then its going to turn out bad.
and last but not least.
3. remember you are an accessory not a necessity.
follow these simple rules and your swinging experience will be enjoyable for you and them.
1.read profiles and respect others wishes..
2.do what you say your going to do if a couple has to work for you then its going to turn out bad.
and last but not least.
3. remember you are an accessory not a necessity.
follow these simple rules and your swinging experience will be enjoyable for you and them.
Wow, lots of feelings on both sides of the equation here. I've been a SM in the lifestyle off and on for, geez 8 years now. I don't talk a lot in these forums, but I think a little perspective might help. Originally it was a couple that found me, and definitely the female half that did most of the training early on. (This is a really funny story, just an FYI.) Truth be told I learned the most important lifestyle stuff though from the male half, rules, etiquette, etc. For the first year, only attended parties with them, and was basically her pet until a few friends asked if they could borrow me. (More funny stories.)
I recently got out of an 18-month relationship, with a wonderful woman that things just didn't work out. We've all been there, still great friends, and we still play now and then. So we're not all-here cause we can't find a woman. Some of my girlfriends have been open to the lifestyle, and we went to parties together. Some were not, either way a young relationship I think needs time to grow, and breaks from the lifestyle were appropriate for me. 99% of couples have times, where a break is warranted for them also.
I think that the biggest thing you need to realize is that couples are couples. Respect needs to be shown to BOTH the wife, but equally important if not more, the husband as well. So when emailing or talking starting out by addressing him first isn
I recently got out of an 18-month relationship, with a wonderful woman that things just didn't work out. We've all been there, still great friends, and we still play now and then. So we're not all-here cause we can't find a woman. Some of my girlfriends have been open to the lifestyle, and we went to parties together. Some were not, either way a young relationship I think needs time to grow, and breaks from the lifestyle were appropriate for me. 99% of couples have times, where a break is warranted for them also.
I think that the biggest thing you need to realize is that couples are couples. Respect needs to be shown to BOTH the wife, but equally important if not more, the husband as well. So when emailing or talking starting out by addressing him first isn
Thank you. I will keep all that in mind.
male here
95% of the time we play we entertain single males, or males with a hall pass. I normally don't participate beyond screening and light conversation. we are in a situation that is not very common in the swinger world so our needs are understandably less common.
honestly I just need a break, pleasing 2 females is hard work. I am not in the mood every night, and I don't have to be, there are many single guys that are good looking and have better skills than I do and the novelty of threesomes still is exciting for them. we have had a few couples, and as I am not too interested in playing it is one guy and three girls...only one guy was able to satisfy his wife and both my girls, the rest failed miserably (I can't handle three, makes me tired to think of it)
we always welcome solo guys that have the skills and stamina to satisfy two at least as good as I can (preferably better, or whats the point) and are likable enough to not irritate the hell out of me.
our luck has been mixed,it seems that skills in bed are kind of like musical skills, a few have a natural gift for it, others can learn the skills, while most don't take the time to learn much at all, they just want to sit back and enjoy it. some can make a ukulele sound awesome, while others bring a Stradivarius and can only make noises not unlike a cat in a tumble dryer. why so many claim the skills of Mozart when they don't have the skill set to give a decent performance of 'Mary had a little lamb' is beyond me. it is probably the reason that so many doubt the abilities of the solo males, and why others give up on solo males all together (those that came into the lifestyle open to solo males anyway). many solo guys are under some delusion that because the really like good music they must be good at making it.
I guess we were lucky and found enough good 'musicians' early on to stay open to it.
and everything MANCUB said
95% of the time we play we entertain single males, or males with a hall pass. I normally don't participate beyond screening and light conversation. we are in a situation that is not very common in the swinger world so our needs are understandably less common.
honestly I just need a break, pleasing 2 females is hard work. I am not in the mood every night, and I don't have to be, there are many single guys that are good looking and have better skills than I do and the novelty of threesomes still is exciting for them. we have had a few couples, and as I am not too interested in playing it is one guy and three girls...only one guy was able to satisfy his wife and both my girls, the rest failed miserably (I can't handle three, makes me tired to think of it)
we always welcome solo guys that have the skills and stamina to satisfy two at least as good as I can (preferably better, or whats the point) and are likable enough to not irritate the hell out of me.
our luck has been mixed,it seems that skills in bed are kind of like musical skills, a few have a natural gift for it, others can learn the skills, while most don't take the time to learn much at all, they just want to sit back and enjoy it. some can make a ukulele sound awesome, while others bring a Stradivarius and can only make noises not unlike a cat in a tumble dryer. why so many claim the skills of Mozart when they don't have the skill set to give a decent performance of 'Mary had a little lamb' is beyond me. it is probably the reason that so many doubt the abilities of the solo males, and why others give up on solo males all together (those that came into the lifestyle open to solo males anyway). many solo guys are under some delusion that because the really like good music they must be good at making it.
I guess we were lucky and found enough good 'musicians' early on to stay open to it.
and everything MANCUB said
MFF - I luv it when someone can cut to the chase, nail the topic spot-on ... AND hilarious to boot! LMAO
I think swinging in general is complicated, difficult, and fun for all. You take a chance but sometimes you fall short. Other times could be a blast. Some expectations are just a tad bit high.
Well as a former Single Male in the lifestyle I had many things I was going to write but after reading MANCUB's post I think most is there... Well said.
Kudos to MANCUB! Very well-said.
totally agree with Eagertwo
mancub this man knows whats up