Saw this on a site and really believe it is about time we all do something...
Good video. =) It just shot a big hole in the both parties. haha.
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Let's not for get that our "sons of liberty" were all slave owners that conceived and bestowed a "manifest destiny" that would include genocide, rape, theft, oppression and all manner of other atrocity. Why don't we quit referring to the founders as somehow more noble and just than we are today. The truth is, we are a people that are trying to make it in the world like any other people in any other country. The sooner we get off our fucking delusional "high horses" the better. We can start by ditching the notion that somehow Americans and the American Christian Cult is somehow better than everyone else and their fuckin cults. The truth is... Religions are the cause of most of the world's issues.. I could go on.. but let's chew on that for a bit..
It seems many at these tea parties are from both side of the isle. Bipartsan protests are exactly what we need IMHO. Obama will be a one term President if the spending does not stop. One question will there be herbs at these tea parties?
INDEP0102,
Which is exactly why I refuse to buy American garbage autos. That's my teabag. I agree 100%. Start punishing these corporations that wanna fuck the worker, cut corners and rip off the consumer.
Free wrote:
<i>"Obama will be a one term President if the spending does not stop."</i>
Bush spent nearly 3 trillion on an unnecessary war and he ran for 2 terms. I think Obama will be aight.
-D-
Which is exactly why I refuse to buy American garbage autos. That's my teabag. I agree 100%. Start punishing these corporations that wanna fuck the worker, cut corners and rip off the consumer.
Free wrote:
<i>"Obama will be a one term President if the spending does not stop."</i>
Bush spent nearly 3 trillion on an unnecessary war and he ran for 2 terms. I think Obama will be aight.
-D-
Don where do you get your info that jap crap is so superior to american autos?
"Don where do you get your info that jap crap is so superior to american autos? "
Trade in a Jap car and then trade in a American shitbox and see which one held it's value. See which one didn't break down before 200K miles. There is a reason hondas hold their value. BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER!!
Trade in a Jap car and then trade in a American shitbox and see which one held it's value. See which one didn't break down before 200K miles. There is a reason hondas hold their value. BECAUSE THEY'RE BETTER!!
http://autos.aol.com/article/car-news/2009-dependability-rankings/20090319003
I think this will amaze you with Buick being top permormer.
I think this will amaze you with Buick being top permormer.
So I guess if we are going by resale that puts Harley Davidson way ahead of everyone else.
So I guess what you're saying is you are perfectly happy with your jap bike and you'll never want a new bike. Personally I do not buy autos for their resale value, mostly on style and performance. But hey to each their own. Now for the tough question. How many jap cars have gone up in value?
Oh so now I'm a poser? Check pics again I'm the one on the right.
Keep laughing Who gives a fuck about a wannabe like you. Have a good day.
You have to laugh as you know you're not man enough for such clubs. And it keeps wannabes like you from crying. Actually I try not to call names on here, but when called names it just comes out. Like I said you have a good day. See unlike you, I can still be cordial.
I guess you need to get your facts straight. I've not taken sides with him nor have I even argued with him. Nor do i give a shit about him or his family of criminals. So before spewing out of ignorance please check your facts first. Or just be the badass that I am sure you are and come on down to Florida and whip my ass to show how right you are.
I do not believe I ever said that!!!!!! You can say what you want as we all know you were a crack baby anyway. There now I insulted you. Ok your turn again crack baby.
I showed you the pic and I left the Outlaws. If I have said anything about that it would have been I am an ex-Outiaw
Oh no you caught me my slip up. So sue me.
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haha (= Gotta love Fox News' blatant support of the GOP. This is my message to the conservative right:
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*smooches*
-D-
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*smooches*
-D-
Murtha's Earmarks Keep Airport Aloft
State-of-the-Art Pennsylvania Facility Sees Few Travelers but Lots of Funding
The security check-in area at the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport in Johnstown, Pa., where the security staff members sometimes outnumber the passengers. (By Robin Rombach For The Washington Post)
Passenger traffic at the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport in Johnstown, Pa., has plummeted by more than half in the past 10 years. (By Robin Rombach For The Washington Post)
JOHNSTOWN, Pa. -- The John Murtha airport sits on a windy mountain two hours east of Pittsburgh, a 650-acre expanse of smooth tarmac, spacious buildings, a helicopter hangar and a National Guard training center.
Murtha's Earmarks Keep Airport Aloft
More Than A Little Help From Murtha
Inside the terminal on a recent weekday, four passengers lined up to board a flight, outnumbered by seven security staff members and supervisors, all suited up in gloves and uniforms to screen six pieces of luggage. For three hours that day, no commercial or private planes took off or landed. Three commercial flights leave the airport on weekdays, all bound for Dulles International Airport.
The key to the airport's gleaming facilities -- and, indeed, its continued existence -- is $200 million in federal funds in the past decade and the powerful patron who steered most of that money here. Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) is credited with securing at least $150 million for the airport. It was among the first in the country to win funding from this year's stimulus package: $800,000 to repave a backup runway.
The facility, newly renamed the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport, is a testament to Murtha's ability to tap streams of federal money for pricey, state-of-the-art projects that are rare among regional airports of comparable size.
Murtha, dubbed the King of Pork by critics, consistently directs more federal money to his district than any other congressman -- $192 million in the 2008 budget. His pattern of steering millions in earmarks to defense contractors who give to his campaign and hire his allies as lobbyists is being scrutinized by the FBI as part of an investigation of a lobbying firm led by one of Murtha's closest friends.
The lawmaker, who uses the airport frequently during his campaigns, has steadily steered millions of taxpayer dollars to it to build a new terminal with a restaurant; a long, concrete runway sturdy enough to handle large jets; and a high-tech radar system usually reserved for international airports.
The airport's passenger count has fallen by more than half in the past 10 years. When Johnstown native Bill Previte arrived on a recent morning, he lamented that his plane was half-empty and that the terminal was deserted.
"Doesn't it seem kind of ridiculous to have a motorized carousel for the baggage claim when 15 people get off the airplane?" he said. "It's obvious: There's not enough population to justify this place."
Murtha, who heads the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, has fought for airport funding as a way to bring jobs to his congressional district, devastated by losses in the steel and coal industries.
Murtha spokesman Matt Mazonkey defended the public spending and said it is unfair to weigh the airport's low volume of passengers against the federal dollars invested in the facility. He noted that several regional airports are confronting the same problem.
"Would we like to have additional commercial flights and business? Absolutely. But you don't attract additional business without having the infrastructure in place to do so," Mazonkey said.
Airport officials said the facility has been a selling point for businesses that are considering locating in Johnstown and praised Murtha's dedication to ensuring air service for the community.
State-of-the-Art Pennsylvania Facility Sees Few Travelers but Lots of Funding
The security check-in area at the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport in Johnstown, Pa., where the security staff members sometimes outnumber the passengers. (By Robin Rombach For The Washington Post)
Passenger traffic at the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport in Johnstown, Pa., has plummeted by more than half in the past 10 years. (By Robin Rombach For The Washington Post)
JOHNSTOWN, Pa. -- The John Murtha airport sits on a windy mountain two hours east of Pittsburgh, a 650-acre expanse of smooth tarmac, spacious buildings, a helicopter hangar and a National Guard training center.
Murtha's Earmarks Keep Airport Aloft
More Than A Little Help From Murtha
Inside the terminal on a recent weekday, four passengers lined up to board a flight, outnumbered by seven security staff members and supervisors, all suited up in gloves and uniforms to screen six pieces of luggage. For three hours that day, no commercial or private planes took off or landed. Three commercial flights leave the airport on weekdays, all bound for Dulles International Airport.
The key to the airport's gleaming facilities -- and, indeed, its continued existence -- is $200 million in federal funds in the past decade and the powerful patron who steered most of that money here. Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) is credited with securing at least $150 million for the airport. It was among the first in the country to win funding from this year's stimulus package: $800,000 to repave a backup runway.
The facility, newly renamed the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport, is a testament to Murtha's ability to tap streams of federal money for pricey, state-of-the-art projects that are rare among regional airports of comparable size.
Murtha, dubbed the King of Pork by critics, consistently directs more federal money to his district than any other congressman -- $192 million in the 2008 budget. His pattern of steering millions in earmarks to defense contractors who give to his campaign and hire his allies as lobbyists is being scrutinized by the FBI as part of an investigation of a lobbying firm led by one of Murtha's closest friends.
The lawmaker, who uses the airport frequently during his campaigns, has steadily steered millions of taxpayer dollars to it to build a new terminal with a restaurant; a long, concrete runway sturdy enough to handle large jets; and a high-tech radar system usually reserved for international airports.
The airport's passenger count has fallen by more than half in the past 10 years. When Johnstown native Bill Previte arrived on a recent morning, he lamented that his plane was half-empty and that the terminal was deserted.
"Doesn't it seem kind of ridiculous to have a motorized carousel for the baggage claim when 15 people get off the airplane?" he said. "It's obvious: There's not enough population to justify this place."
Murtha, who heads the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, has fought for airport funding as a way to bring jobs to his congressional district, devastated by losses in the steel and coal industries.
Murtha spokesman Matt Mazonkey defended the public spending and said it is unfair to weigh the airport's low volume of passengers against the federal dollars invested in the facility. He noted that several regional airports are confronting the same problem.
"Would we like to have additional commercial flights and business? Absolutely. But you don't attract additional business without having the infrastructure in place to do so," Mazonkey said.
Airport officials said the facility has been a selling point for businesses that are considering locating in Johnstown and praised Murtha's dedication to ensuring air service for the community.
OHHHHHH!!!! haha
"I'm not Dumb enough to think that it's just the GOP guilty of this shit,"
And yet you are willing to blame Bush for this entire mess...LOL
It seems many at these tea parties are from both side of the isle. Bipartsan protests are exactly what we need IMHO.
I am for term limits, for both sides. So No Mertha is not alone in this. They all do it. It was one example of all the BS cumming out of washington.
And yet you are willing to blame Bush for this entire mess...LOL
It seems many at these tea parties are from both side of the isle. Bipartsan protests are exactly what we need IMHO.
I am for term limits, for both sides. So No Mertha is not alone in this. They all do it. It was one example of all the BS cumming out of washington.
Combined, they're called capitalists. haha. Pure capitalism is a pyramid scheme. PERIOD! There has to be those on top and those on bottom. The facade is that everyone has an equal chance. When capitalism is pure it's totalitarianism and fascism at it's best.
instead he chose to ACT and try and reverse the mess gw and his cronies got us ALL in.
The facade is that everyone has an equal chance. When capitalism is pure it's totalitarianism and fascism at it's best.
I dont know but my business continues to do well, well enough that the first time in many years I owe taxes this year. Captalism and free market allows me to make a decent living. However now I am being forced to limit my client base and to restricct my compamies growth. Why? higher taxes and new restrictions on what we do from my state.
I dont know but my business continues to do well, well enough that the first time in many years I owe taxes this year. Captalism and free market allows me to make a decent living. However now I am being forced to limit my client base and to restricct my compamies growth. Why? higher taxes and new restrictions on what we do from my state.
Do I blame BHO hell no. I blame congress especially certain members. Blocking investigations into the housing markrt in 2003,2004, and 2005. Barney Frank, and others that said one thing and did another with fannie and freddie. If you blame and castigate those of the Bush Admin. you are covering the obvious misdeeds of the US Congress.
"I dont know but my business continues to do well, well enough that the first time in many years I owe taxes this year. Captalism and free market allows me to make a decent living. However now I am being forced to limit my client base and to restricct my compamies growth. Why? higher taxes and new restrictions on what we do from my state. "
Yep and in a socio-capitalist society, you wouldn't be the only one prospering. Your workers, you know the ones that help you get where you are... They would be getting paid fairly too. (= Pyramid schemes only allow the one on the top to prosper.. Fuck the ones that got him there. NO THANKS!
Yep and in a socio-capitalist society, you wouldn't be the only one prospering. Your workers, you know the ones that help you get where you are... They would be getting paid fairly too. (= Pyramid schemes only allow the one on the top to prosper.. Fuck the ones that got him there. NO THANKS!
First off my employees (the ones I have left) make a very good living. Pay has never been an issue. They receive an hourly wage, benefits, and bonuses for their hard work. My company would be nothing with out them. We are extremely competative when it comes to what we do for our employees. It is my responsability to earn a PROFIT to insure they continue to work. Their bonuses are determined by these profits. Not everyone has what it takes to run a business. In the immortal words of of Ted Knight "Well the world needs ditch diggers too" Caddy Shack. So tell me, if someone goes to college and works hard to insure he has his shit together and starts a business and hires some high school grad, should the HS grad earn the same? A free market and capitalism insures competition.The fear of socialism is the erradication of that compitition and hands an excuse to those that do not succeed. Competition is healthy and sets apart those that work hard and those who want a free ride. Making life easier is a noble cause but in the end it is not healthy for any society.
"First off my employees (the ones I have left) make a very good living. Pay has never been an issue. "
Yes and you're a small business. You're not a multibillion dollar corporation that got rich cutting corners and fucking their workers. See McDonald, Enron.. etc. You're talking apples and oranges. You're a small time business. We're talking about people that band together investors and cut the little man short and stick all the profits in the pockets of the share holders and not the people that got the company where it is.. All the original investor does is get the company up and running. What about the worker that keeps it going.. does all the work.
"So tell me, if someone goes to college and works hard to insure he has his shit together and starts a business and hires some high school grad, should the HS grad earn the same? A free market and capitalism insures competition.The fear of socialism is the erradication of that compitition and hands an excuse to those that do not succeed."
I didn't say they had to be paid the same. They have to be paid a livable wage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They should have enough money to pay for benefits you don't want the government to pay for. You can't have it both ways. If you want the people to pay for their own healthcare.. PAY THEM ENOUGH TO FUCKIN DO IT!!!!!!!!
You're a victim of your own logic. You're losing employees because we have to pay a deficit that CAPITALIST PIGS caused. haha. You're small time because of it. Hey, whatever makes you happy. (=
Yes and you're a small business. You're not a multibillion dollar corporation that got rich cutting corners and fucking their workers. See McDonald, Enron.. etc. You're talking apples and oranges. You're a small time business. We're talking about people that band together investors and cut the little man short and stick all the profits in the pockets of the share holders and not the people that got the company where it is.. All the original investor does is get the company up and running. What about the worker that keeps it going.. does all the work.
"So tell me, if someone goes to college and works hard to insure he has his shit together and starts a business and hires some high school grad, should the HS grad earn the same? A free market and capitalism insures competition.The fear of socialism is the erradication of that compitition and hands an excuse to those that do not succeed."
I didn't say they had to be paid the same. They have to be paid a livable wage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They should have enough money to pay for benefits you don't want the government to pay for. You can't have it both ways. If you want the people to pay for their own healthcare.. PAY THEM ENOUGH TO FUCKIN DO IT!!!!!!!!
You're a victim of your own logic. You're losing employees because we have to pay a deficit that CAPITALIST PIGS caused. haha. You're small time because of it. Hey, whatever makes you happy. (=
Small time? Well ok if you say so. I define it big time because it is my life.
Investors invest for the same reason you your self put forth. If I came to you and asked for a $1000. and told you in six months I can turn that into $100,0000. and will gaurantee it in writting would you do it? These investors invest what that common worker cant. And yes you are correct it is not enough. But those same workers at McDonalds know going in this is not a get rich job. And the youth that works there looks at it as a fist step to their independence. Yes we do need burger flippers as well. And if that worker decides to stay in that job and does not "expect" to grow than they set them selves in that job. I understand the rath that you expect on corp. USA but you cant have it both ways. This decline for union workers and non Union workers started a while back. In 2006 dems raised the Min. wage, and in 1978 Carter did the same thing. And again it has come back to bite us all in the ass. Even McDonalds pays above the Min. wage and yet when they did that all unions accross the board asked for a new contract, there goes the economy. What would be a safe wage for workers in your opinion? Insurance prices are not comming down no matter what employeees make they infact rise everytime wages are lifted. So Corperations are really not at fault here. Regulating insurance and releasing restrictions on where Ins. Co. do business is a key to lowering cost. And charging according to the means of the patient. But to many people cant pay the bill so those who can take it up the ass. Socialism already exist in America when it comes to health care. We that are insured and those that dont are still being cared for. It is just who is paying the bill.
Investors invest for the same reason you your self put forth. If I came to you and asked for a $1000. and told you in six months I can turn that into $100,0000. and will gaurantee it in writting would you do it? These investors invest what that common worker cant. And yes you are correct it is not enough. But those same workers at McDonalds know going in this is not a get rich job. And the youth that works there looks at it as a fist step to their independence. Yes we do need burger flippers as well. And if that worker decides to stay in that job and does not "expect" to grow than they set them selves in that job. I understand the rath that you expect on corp. USA but you cant have it both ways. This decline for union workers and non Union workers started a while back. In 2006 dems raised the Min. wage, and in 1978 Carter did the same thing. And again it has come back to bite us all in the ass. Even McDonalds pays above the Min. wage and yet when they did that all unions accross the board asked for a new contract, there goes the economy. What would be a safe wage for workers in your opinion? Insurance prices are not comming down no matter what employeees make they infact rise everytime wages are lifted. So Corperations are really not at fault here. Regulating insurance and releasing restrictions on where Ins. Co. do business is a key to lowering cost. And charging according to the means of the patient. But to many people cant pay the bill so those who can take it up the ass. Socialism already exist in America when it comes to health care. We that are insured and those that dont are still being cared for. It is just who is paying the bill.
You can't have it both ways. If you want the people to pay for their own healthcare.. PAY THEM ENOUGH TO FUCKIN DO IT!!!!!!!!
UPSIDE DOWN...How about we limit what an insurance company what they charge according to their customers needs and what they make? (example) Why do I need perturnaty coverage? Why do I need eye coverage if I dont need it? If I make $100,000 a year they charge me accordingly, if you make min. wage (which no one does) charge them accordingly. This would be a whole lot easier than the government providing it for them. And a whole lot cheaper on the American people.
UPSIDE DOWN...How about we limit what an insurance company what they charge according to their customers needs and what they make? (example) Why do I need perturnaty coverage? Why do I need eye coverage if I dont need it? If I make $100,000 a year they charge me accordingly, if you make min. wage (which no one does) charge them accordingly. This would be a whole lot easier than the government providing it for them. And a whole lot cheaper on the American people.
Small time? Well ok if you say so. I define it big time because it is my life.
<font color="#6a4edb">You know what I mean. Small in relation to a large corporation.</font>
Investors invest for the same reason you your self put forth. If I came to you and asked for a $1000. and told you in six months I can turn that into $100,0000. and will gaurantee it in writting would you do it? These investors invest what that common worker cant.
<font color="#6a4edb">Thanks for proving my point. That the opportunity isn't available for everyone. There has to be someone on the bottom.</font>
And yes you are correct it is not enough. But those same workers at McDonalds know going in this is not a get rich job.
<font color="#6a4edb">And most of them can't get better. They're forced to remain in that income level. Not everyone has the same opportunity.</font>
And the youth that works there looks at it as a fist step to their independence. Yes we do need burger flippers as well. And if that worker decides to stay in that job and does not "expect" to grow than they set them selves in that job.
<font color="#6a4edb">They're not all youth and you are lumping everyone into a stereotype.</font>
I understand the rath that you expect on corp. USA but you cant have it both ways. This decline for union workers and non Union workers started a while back. In 2006 dems raised the Min. wage, and in 1978 Carter did the same thing. And again it has come back to bite us all in the ass. Even McDonalds pays above the Min. wage and yet when they did that all unions accross the board asked for a new contract, there goes the economy.
<font color="#6a4edb">No, we need to raise the wage and prevent corporations from adjusting their margins to maintain their large profit margins. We need to force corporations to keep with mom and pop businesses. That way it's fair and we don't have wal-marts putting everyone out of business and creating a cultureless lazy uneducated consumer society. When money is what controls the country (capitalist society), money supercedes vote. </font>
What would be a safe wage for workers in your opinion? Insurance prices are not comming down no matter what employeees make they infact rise everytime wages are lifted.
<font color="#6a4edb">If we keep a private healthcare industry, then the employer needs to get group plans to reduce costs. They need to provide insurance or give a wage that allows the employee to pay for it. That's fair.</font>
So Corperations are really not at fault here. Regulating insurance and releasing restrictions on where Ins. Co. do business is a key to lowering cost. And charging according to the means of the patient.
<font color="#6a4edb">Corporations are at fault. This is exactly why the auto industry is suffering. American cars are pieces of shit. They've cut corners, outsourced work to substandard subconstractors and the result is overpriced shitboxes that don't hold their book. Now Pontiac is a thing of the past and bankruptcy is in some of their futures. The same goes for the medical industry. Private industry controls the cost and they can gang rape us over the barrel. Check this Swine flu nonsense out.. They have a small amount of people getting this shit and their scaring BILLIONS out of us! </font>
But to many people cant pay the bill so those who can take it up the ass. Socialism already exist in America when it comes to health care. We that are insured and those that dont are still being cared for. It is just who is paying the bill.
<font color="#6a4edb">Get rid of it and PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES! Though there will still be a need for all of us to pay for those who can't work. </font>
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UPSIDE DOWN...How about we limit what an insurance company what they charge according to their customers needs and what they make? (example) Why do I need perturnaty coverage? Why do I need eye coverage if I dont need it? If I make $100,000 a year they charge me accordingly, if you make min. wage (which no one does) charge them accordingly. This would be a whole lot easier than the government providing it for them. And a whole lot cheaper on the American people.
<font color="#6a4edb">Again, so long as the employer pays the employee 'accordingly'. For those that can't work. I still see a need for a public system. Some people are physically/mentally unable to care for themselves. There will always be a need for public assistance.</font>
<font color="#6a4edb">You know what I mean. Small in relation to a large corporation.</font>
Investors invest for the same reason you your self put forth. If I came to you and asked for a $1000. and told you in six months I can turn that into $100,0000. and will gaurantee it in writting would you do it? These investors invest what that common worker cant.
<font color="#6a4edb">Thanks for proving my point. That the opportunity isn't available for everyone. There has to be someone on the bottom.</font>
And yes you are correct it is not enough. But those same workers at McDonalds know going in this is not a get rich job.
<font color="#6a4edb">And most of them can't get better. They're forced to remain in that income level. Not everyone has the same opportunity.</font>
And the youth that works there looks at it as a fist step to their independence. Yes we do need burger flippers as well. And if that worker decides to stay in that job and does not "expect" to grow than they set them selves in that job.
<font color="#6a4edb">They're not all youth and you are lumping everyone into a stereotype.</font>
I understand the rath that you expect on corp. USA but you cant have it both ways. This decline for union workers and non Union workers started a while back. In 2006 dems raised the Min. wage, and in 1978 Carter did the same thing. And again it has come back to bite us all in the ass. Even McDonalds pays above the Min. wage and yet when they did that all unions accross the board asked for a new contract, there goes the economy.
<font color="#6a4edb">No, we need to raise the wage and prevent corporations from adjusting their margins to maintain their large profit margins. We need to force corporations to keep with mom and pop businesses. That way it's fair and we don't have wal-marts putting everyone out of business and creating a cultureless lazy uneducated consumer society. When money is what controls the country (capitalist society), money supercedes vote. </font>
What would be a safe wage for workers in your opinion? Insurance prices are not comming down no matter what employeees make they infact rise everytime wages are lifted.
<font color="#6a4edb">If we keep a private healthcare industry, then the employer needs to get group plans to reduce costs. They need to provide insurance or give a wage that allows the employee to pay for it. That's fair.</font>
So Corperations are really not at fault here. Regulating insurance and releasing restrictions on where Ins. Co. do business is a key to lowering cost. And charging according to the means of the patient.
<font color="#6a4edb">Corporations are at fault. This is exactly why the auto industry is suffering. American cars are pieces of shit. They've cut corners, outsourced work to substandard subconstractors and the result is overpriced shitboxes that don't hold their book. Now Pontiac is a thing of the past and bankruptcy is in some of their futures. The same goes for the medical industry. Private industry controls the cost and they can gang rape us over the barrel. Check this Swine flu nonsense out.. They have a small amount of people getting this shit and their scaring BILLIONS out of us! </font>
But to many people cant pay the bill so those who can take it up the ass. Socialism already exist in America when it comes to health care. We that are insured and those that dont are still being cared for. It is just who is paying the bill.
<font color="#6a4edb">Get rid of it and PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES! Though there will still be a need for all of us to pay for those who can't work. </font>
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UPSIDE DOWN...How about we limit what an insurance company what they charge according to their customers needs and what they make? (example) Why do I need perturnaty coverage? Why do I need eye coverage if I dont need it? If I make $100,000 a year they charge me accordingly, if you make min. wage (which no one does) charge them accordingly. This would be a whole lot easier than the government providing it for them. And a whole lot cheaper on the American people.
<font color="#6a4edb">Again, so long as the employer pays the employee 'accordingly'. For those that can't work. I still see a need for a public system. Some people are physically/mentally unable to care for themselves. There will always be a need for public assistance.</font>
Small time? Well ok if you say so. I define it big time because it is my life.
You know what I mean. Small in relation to a large corporation.
My company contributes to the community doing work that very few can do, or even wants too. Not offended at all but still very big indeed.
Investors invest for the same reason you your self put forth. If I came to you and asked for a $1000. and told you in six months I can turn that into $100,0000. and will gaurantee it in writting would you do it? These investors invest what that common worker cant.
Thanks for proving my point. That the opportunity isn't available for everyone. There has to be someone on the bottom.
YES it is. You must have courage and a winning attitude to succeed in life and you must take resonsibilty for the choices you make and the direction you take. It is not the governments job to give you the breaks in life, it is you and no one else.
And yes you are correct it is not enough. But those same workers at McDonalds know going in this is not a get rich job.
And most of them can't get better. They're forced to remain in that income level. Not everyone has the same opportunity.
BULL SHIT! According to you everyone has that chance in life. Again self reliance.
And the youth that works there looks at it as a fist step to their independence. Yes we do need burger flippers as well. And if that worker decides to stay in that job and does not "expect" to grow than they set them selves in that job.
They're not all youth and you are lumping everyone into a stereotype. Been to McDonalds lately? All three of my kids had their first job at McDonalds and all three chose a new path when they discovered it is not a career they wanted.
I understand the rath that you expect on corp. USA but you cant have it both ways. This decline for union workers and non Union workers started a while back. In 2006 dems raised the Min. wage, and in 1978 Carter did the same thing. And again it has come back to bite us all in the ass. Even McDonalds pays above the Min. wage and yet when they did that all unions accross the board asked for a new contract, there goes the economy.
No, we need to raise the wage and prevent corporations from adjusting their margins to maintain their large profit margins. We need to force corporations to keep with mom and pop businesses. That way it's fair and we don't have wal-marts putting everyone out of business and creating a cultureless lazy uneducated consumer society. When money is what controls the country (capitalist society), money supercedes vote.
1 answer...Walmart is one of a very few companies not laying people off and is showing a profit. My nephew has worked for walmart for 6 years and makes 48K a year, and manages 35 people. He started as a cashier.
What would be a safe wage for workers in your opinion? Insurance prices are not comming down no matter what employeees make they infact rise everytime wages are lifted.
If we keep a private healthcare industry, then the employer needs to get group plans to reduce costs. They need to provide insurance or give a wage that allows the employee to pay for it. That's fair.
They cant. Insurance companies are restricted to certain states and that limits choice and restricts compitition. Auto insurance is able to cross state lines and they offer a cafiteria style of insurance,(buy what you need) and Auto ins. has come down in the past 6 years by as much as 24%
So Corperations are really not at fault here. Regulating insurance and releasing restrictions on where Ins. Co. do business is a key to lowering cost. And charging according to the means of the patient.
Corporations are at fault. This is exactly why the auto industry is suffering. American cars are pieces of shit. They've cut corners, outsourced work to substandard subconstractors and the result is overpriced shitboxes that don't hold their book. Now Pontiac is a thing of the past and bankruptcy is in some of their futures. The same goes for the medical industry. Private industry controls the cost and they can gang rape us over the barrel. Check this Swine flu nonsense out.. They have a small amount of people getting this shit and their scaring BILLIONS out of us!
Not all corps. are corrupt or selfish, so you want to lump all corps. together? Stereotype? Some companies actually care and understand the common workers.Most all realize if it werent for the workers they would be nothing. Why would you be scared? It is the flu for christ sake!!!
But to many people cant pay the bill so those who can take it up the ass. Socialism already exist in America when it comes to health care. We that are insured and those that dont are still being cared for. It is just who is paying the bill.
Get rid of it and PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES! Though there will still be a need for all of us to pay for those who can't work.
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UPSIDE DOWN...How about we limit what an insurance company what they charge according to their customers needs and what they make? (example) Why do I need perturnaty coverage? Why do I need eye coverage if I dont need it? If I make $100,000 a year they charge me accordingly, if you make min. wage (which no one does) charge them accordingly. This would be a whole lot easier than the government providing it for them. And a whole lot cheaper on the American people.
Again, so long as the employer pays the employee 'accordingly'. For those that can't work. I still see a need for a public system. Some people are physically/mentally unable to care for themselves. There will always be a need for public assistance.
And there is a huge difference between those that cant and those that just wont!!!! Those that cant? I will give until it hurts, those that wont let them starve.
You know what I mean. Small in relation to a large corporation.
My company contributes to the community doing work that very few can do, or even wants too. Not offended at all but still very big indeed.
Investors invest for the same reason you your self put forth. If I came to you and asked for a $1000. and told you in six months I can turn that into $100,0000. and will gaurantee it in writting would you do it? These investors invest what that common worker cant.
Thanks for proving my point. That the opportunity isn't available for everyone. There has to be someone on the bottom.
YES it is. You must have courage and a winning attitude to succeed in life and you must take resonsibilty for the choices you make and the direction you take. It is not the governments job to give you the breaks in life, it is you and no one else.
And yes you are correct it is not enough. But those same workers at McDonalds know going in this is not a get rich job.
And most of them can't get better. They're forced to remain in that income level. Not everyone has the same opportunity.
BULL SHIT! According to you everyone has that chance in life. Again self reliance.
And the youth that works there looks at it as a fist step to their independence. Yes we do need burger flippers as well. And if that worker decides to stay in that job and does not "expect" to grow than they set them selves in that job.
They're not all youth and you are lumping everyone into a stereotype. Been to McDonalds lately? All three of my kids had their first job at McDonalds and all three chose a new path when they discovered it is not a career they wanted.
I understand the rath that you expect on corp. USA but you cant have it both ways. This decline for union workers and non Union workers started a while back. In 2006 dems raised the Min. wage, and in 1978 Carter did the same thing. And again it has come back to bite us all in the ass. Even McDonalds pays above the Min. wage and yet when they did that all unions accross the board asked for a new contract, there goes the economy.
No, we need to raise the wage and prevent corporations from adjusting their margins to maintain their large profit margins. We need to force corporations to keep with mom and pop businesses. That way it's fair and we don't have wal-marts putting everyone out of business and creating a cultureless lazy uneducated consumer society. When money is what controls the country (capitalist society), money supercedes vote.
1 answer...Walmart is one of a very few companies not laying people off and is showing a profit. My nephew has worked for walmart for 6 years and makes 48K a year, and manages 35 people. He started as a cashier.
What would be a safe wage for workers in your opinion? Insurance prices are not comming down no matter what employeees make they infact rise everytime wages are lifted.
If we keep a private healthcare industry, then the employer needs to get group plans to reduce costs. They need to provide insurance or give a wage that allows the employee to pay for it. That's fair.
They cant. Insurance companies are restricted to certain states and that limits choice and restricts compitition. Auto insurance is able to cross state lines and they offer a cafiteria style of insurance,(buy what you need) and Auto ins. has come down in the past 6 years by as much as 24%
So Corperations are really not at fault here. Regulating insurance and releasing restrictions on where Ins. Co. do business is a key to lowering cost. And charging according to the means of the patient.
Corporations are at fault. This is exactly why the auto industry is suffering. American cars are pieces of shit. They've cut corners, outsourced work to substandard subconstractors and the result is overpriced shitboxes that don't hold their book. Now Pontiac is a thing of the past and bankruptcy is in some of their futures. The same goes for the medical industry. Private industry controls the cost and they can gang rape us over the barrel. Check this Swine flu nonsense out.. They have a small amount of people getting this shit and their scaring BILLIONS out of us!
Not all corps. are corrupt or selfish, so you want to lump all corps. together? Stereotype? Some companies actually care and understand the common workers.Most all realize if it werent for the workers they would be nothing. Why would you be scared? It is the flu for christ sake!!!
But to many people cant pay the bill so those who can take it up the ass. Socialism already exist in America when it comes to health care. We that are insured and those that dont are still being cared for. It is just who is paying the bill.
Get rid of it and PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES! Though there will still be a need for all of us to pay for those who can't work.
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UPSIDE DOWN...How about we limit what an insurance company what they charge according to their customers needs and what they make? (example) Why do I need perturnaty coverage? Why do I need eye coverage if I dont need it? If I make $100,000 a year they charge me accordingly, if you make min. wage (which no one does) charge them accordingly. This would be a whole lot easier than the government providing it for them. And a whole lot cheaper on the American people.
Again, so long as the employer pays the employee 'accordingly'. For those that can't work. I still see a need for a public system. Some people are physically/mentally unable to care for themselves. There will always be a need for public assistance.
And there is a huge difference between those that cant and those that just wont!!!! Those that cant? I will give until it hurts, those that wont let them starve.
Think the tea party was a joke now?
INSIDE WASHINGTON: Taxpayers to get rude surprise
INSIDE WASHINGTON: Millions of couples, retirees may have to repay some of Obama tax credit
Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press Writer
On Thursday April 30, 2009, 6:55 pm EDT
Buzz up! Print WASHINGTON (AP) -- Millions of Americans enjoying their small windfall from President Barack Obama's "Making Work Pay" tax credit are in for an unpleasant surprise next spring.
The government is going to want some of that money back.
The tax credit is supposed to provide up to $400 to individuals and $800 to married couples as part of the massive economic recovery package enacted in February. Most workers started receiving the credit through small increases in their paychecks in the past month.
But new tax withholding tables issued by the IRS could cause millions of taxpayers to get hundreds of dollars more than they are entitled to under the credit, money that will have to be repaid at tax time.
At-risk taxpayers include a broad swath of the public: married couples in which both spouses work; workers with more than one job; retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from their pension payments and Social Security recipients with jobs that provide taxable income.
The Internal Revenue Service acknowledges problems with the withholding tables but has done little to warn average taxpayers.
"They need to get the Goodyear blimp out there on this," said Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of taxation for the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants.
For many, the new tax tables will simply mean smaller-than-expected tax refunds next year, IRS spokesman Terry Lemons said. The average refund was nearly $2,700 this year.
But taxpayers who calculate their withholding so they get only small refunds could face an unwelcome tax bill next April, said Jackie Perlman, an analyst with the Tax Institute at H&R Block.
"They are going to get a surprise," she said.
Perlman's advice: check your federal withholding to make sure sufficient taxes are being taken out of your pay. If you are married and both spouses work, you might consider having taxes withheld at the higher rate for single filers. If you have multiple jobs, you might consider having extra taxes withheld by one of your employers. You can make that request with a Form W-4.
The IRS has a calculator on its Web site to help taxpayers figure withholding. So do many private tax preparers.
Obama has touted the tax credit as one of the big achievements of his first 100 days in office, boasting that 95 percent of working families will qualify in 2009 and 2010.
The credit pays workers 6.2 percent of their earned income, up to a maximum of $400 for individuals and $800 for married couples who file jointly. Individuals making more $95,000 and couples making more than $190,000 are ineligible.
The tax credit was designed to help boost the economy by getting more money to consumers in their regular paychecks. Employers were required to start using the new withholding tables by April 1.
The tables, however, don't take into account several common categories of taxpayers, experts said.
For example:
--A single worker with two jobs making $20,000 a year at each job will get a $400 boost in take-home pay at each of them, for a total of $800. That worker, however, is eligible for a maximum credit of $400, so the remaining $400 will have to be paid back at tax time -- either through a smaller refund or a payment to the IRS.
The IRS recognized there could be a similar problem for married couples if both spouses work, so it adjusted the withholding tables. The fix, however, was imperfect.
-- A married couple with a combined income of $50,000 is eligible for an $800 credit. However, if both spouses work and make more than $13,000, the new withholding tables give them each a $600 boost -- for a total of $1,200.
There were 33 million married couples in 2008 in which both spouses worked. That's 55 percent of all married couples, according to the Census Bureau.
-- A single college student with a part-time job making $10,000 would get a $400 boost in pay. However, if that student is claimed as a dependent on a parent's tax return, she doesn't qualify for the credit and would have to repay it when she files next year.
Some retirees face even bigger headaches.
The Social Security Administration is sending out $250 payments to more than 50 million retirees in May as part of the economic stimulus package. The payments will go to people who receive Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, railroad retirement benefits or veteran's disability benefits.
The payments are meant to provide a boost for people who don't qualify for the tax credit. However, they will go to retirees even if they have earned income and receive the credit. Those retirees will have the $250 payment deducted from their tax credit -- but not until they file their tax returns next year, long after the money may have been spent.
Retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from pension benefits also are getting an income boost as a result of the new withholding tables. However, pension benefits are not earned income, so they don't qualify for the tax credit. That money will have to paid back next year when tax returns are filed.
More than 20 million retirees and survivors receive payments from defined benefit pension plans, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute. However, it is unclear how many have federal taxes withheld from their payments.
The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union raised concerns about the effect of the tax credit on pension payments in a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner in March.
Geithner responded that Treasury and IRS understood the concerns and were "exploring ways to mitigate that effect."
Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan, the top Republican on the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said Geithner has yet to respond to concerns raised by committee members.
"So far we've got the, 'If we don't address this maybe it will go away' approach," Camp said.
IRS withholding calculator:
INSIDE WASHINGTON: Taxpayers to get rude surprise
INSIDE WASHINGTON: Millions of couples, retirees may have to repay some of Obama tax credit
Stephen Ohlemacher, Associated Press Writer
On Thursday April 30, 2009, 6:55 pm EDT
Buzz up! Print WASHINGTON (AP) -- Millions of Americans enjoying their small windfall from President Barack Obama's "Making Work Pay" tax credit are in for an unpleasant surprise next spring.
The government is going to want some of that money back.
The tax credit is supposed to provide up to $400 to individuals and $800 to married couples as part of the massive economic recovery package enacted in February. Most workers started receiving the credit through small increases in their paychecks in the past month.
But new tax withholding tables issued by the IRS could cause millions of taxpayers to get hundreds of dollars more than they are entitled to under the credit, money that will have to be repaid at tax time.
At-risk taxpayers include a broad swath of the public: married couples in which both spouses work; workers with more than one job; retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from their pension payments and Social Security recipients with jobs that provide taxable income.
The Internal Revenue Service acknowledges problems with the withholding tables but has done little to warn average taxpayers.
"They need to get the Goodyear blimp out there on this," said Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of taxation for the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants.
For many, the new tax tables will simply mean smaller-than-expected tax refunds next year, IRS spokesman Terry Lemons said. The average refund was nearly $2,700 this year.
But taxpayers who calculate their withholding so they get only small refunds could face an unwelcome tax bill next April, said Jackie Perlman, an analyst with the Tax Institute at H&R Block.
"They are going to get a surprise," she said.
Perlman's advice: check your federal withholding to make sure sufficient taxes are being taken out of your pay. If you are married and both spouses work, you might consider having taxes withheld at the higher rate for single filers. If you have multiple jobs, you might consider having extra taxes withheld by one of your employers. You can make that request with a Form W-4.
The IRS has a calculator on its Web site to help taxpayers figure withholding. So do many private tax preparers.
Obama has touted the tax credit as one of the big achievements of his first 100 days in office, boasting that 95 percent of working families will qualify in 2009 and 2010.
The credit pays workers 6.2 percent of their earned income, up to a maximum of $400 for individuals and $800 for married couples who file jointly. Individuals making more $95,000 and couples making more than $190,000 are ineligible.
The tax credit was designed to help boost the economy by getting more money to consumers in their regular paychecks. Employers were required to start using the new withholding tables by April 1.
The tables, however, don't take into account several common categories of taxpayers, experts said.
For example:
--A single worker with two jobs making $20,000 a year at each job will get a $400 boost in take-home pay at each of them, for a total of $800. That worker, however, is eligible for a maximum credit of $400, so the remaining $400 will have to be paid back at tax time -- either through a smaller refund or a payment to the IRS.
The IRS recognized there could be a similar problem for married couples if both spouses work, so it adjusted the withholding tables. The fix, however, was imperfect.
-- A married couple with a combined income of $50,000 is eligible for an $800 credit. However, if both spouses work and make more than $13,000, the new withholding tables give them each a $600 boost -- for a total of $1,200.
There were 33 million married couples in 2008 in which both spouses worked. That's 55 percent of all married couples, according to the Census Bureau.
-- A single college student with a part-time job making $10,000 would get a $400 boost in pay. However, if that student is claimed as a dependent on a parent's tax return, she doesn't qualify for the credit and would have to repay it when she files next year.
Some retirees face even bigger headaches.
The Social Security Administration is sending out $250 payments to more than 50 million retirees in May as part of the economic stimulus package. The payments will go to people who receive Social Security, Supplemental Security Income, railroad retirement benefits or veteran's disability benefits.
The payments are meant to provide a boost for people who don't qualify for the tax credit. However, they will go to retirees even if they have earned income and receive the credit. Those retirees will have the $250 payment deducted from their tax credit -- but not until they file their tax returns next year, long after the money may have been spent.
Retirees who have federal income taxes withheld from pension benefits also are getting an income boost as a result of the new withholding tables. However, pension benefits are not earned income, so they don't qualify for the tax credit. That money will have to paid back next year when tax returns are filed.
More than 20 million retirees and survivors receive payments from defined benefit pension plans, according to the Employee Benefit Research Institute. However, it is unclear how many have federal taxes withheld from their payments.
The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees union raised concerns about the effect of the tax credit on pension payments in a letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner in March.
Geithner responded that Treasury and IRS understood the concerns and were "exploring ways to mitigate that effect."
Rep. Dave Camp of Michigan, the top Republican on the tax-writing House Ways and Means Committee, said Geithner has yet to respond to concerns raised by committee members.
"So far we've got the, 'If we don't address this maybe it will go away' approach," Camp said.
IRS withholding calculator: