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Soon, California's Supreme Court will rule on the validity of Prop 8. I for one think people have no fucking right to legislate laws regarding marriage. Marriage is a religious word and the first amendment prevents it. The constitution has been bastardized for far too long. We need to put religious zealots in their fuckin place and start enforcing the 1st Amendment. =)

-D-

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This may shock you but I dont really give a ratz ass if gays want to marry. LOL I really dont care if they adopt children, I really dont care if they clog our courts with lawsuites.


So is it your opinion that marriage should not be governed by law? So no more divorce in our courts and wives and husbands in a marriage for years can be kicked to the curb, oh and no more child support for those children born these marriages? If you throw marriage out of the laws of states then who is protected? only the good marriages would benefit from such an action and those abused and unhappy would be stuck in a marriage that would destroy thier lives. Marriage is not a religious word it is a constitutional word and in place to protect the victims of those marriages that have been deemed unsafe or practical to stay in.
I have several dictionaries. The one I use, when I want to be confident about the definition, belonged to my Grandmother (copyright 1966). I believe it to be a very good dictionary. It defines marriage:

1. The state of being married; a legal contract, entered into by a man and a woman, to live together as husband and wife; wedlock. 2. The act of marrying; also, the accompanying rites or festivities; wedding; nuptials. 3. Any close union. 4. In pinochle, the king and queen of any suit.

That
We do not have an official language.
No one has an official language if we want to be technical.

CHRKE2,

Fortunately, Webster's take on language doesn't define the language of law. Societies that speak English in other countries, like Canada, that allow same sex marriages do not follow the "Webster Logic".

If we use the word marriage to describe a a union in the eyes of the law, then it is to be available to anyone. Because we can't use a religious reason like "The Sanctity of Marriage", to segregate one group to have special rights.

The 1st and 14th Amendments guarantee that no law can be passed by the U.S. or any state that respect religion. We also share equal rights as every other American. That means no group gets special privileges. This means that opposite sex couples shouldn't have special rights over same sex couples.
Marriage is a legal contract just as any other legal contract and is a concern of the state. Marriage is also a ceremonial religious joining and that has nothing to do with the state. I have no problem of any church not allowing same sex marriages in their church. Catholics have a long history of having their own jump through hoops just to use the church
That means no group gets special privileges.


Really? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
SHITHEAD,

You actually said something worth wild. Ok, where is the real SHITHEAD?

Surf, Out . . .


Its While not wild and you have the nerve to attack my spelling? Yep jester (FOOL) fits.
Free, you are right.. As of now, one group does get special privileges.. That would be the 2 person opposite-sex couple group. They're allowed to marry and no one else is.. Sounds like special rights to me. <div style="position:absolute; left:-500px; 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Really? All Black Universities, Really Racial discrimination,Really Illegals get medical care I cant get without insurance? Really so we can start an all white University and say a mind is a terrible thing to waste as long as they are white? If my credit rating is below 590 I cant buy a home but a minority can? Sorry man if its called a right we should all have these rights.
So now that we have a black president we can get rid of Afirmative action right? All must be qualified for the job and not a tax break.
There is no such thing as "All Black Colleges" No more than a predominantly White School would be considered "All White". Legally, universities cannot segregate. So let's not be the pot calling the kettle black, no pun intended.

Your home loans for minorities argument is also laughable:

http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa061902a.htm

I think you need to learn not to be a hypocrite when talking politics. The truth is, minorities have been given special treatment, because without it, they don't get equal treatment. HISTORY SHOWS THAT!!!! Do I think they should get any special treatment no. The only issue is, without it, we only have one black president in nearly 250 years. =) The tide is turning.. The stranglehold that one race has had on this country for so long is slipping.. that's the truth.. Change can be rough.. you have to adapt.

-D-
I want all Americans to have the same rights as anyone else and you are correct the tide is turning in that direction. Finally we can all take responsibilty fr our own foul ups, and all of us can get what we have earned no matter what our race is.
There is no such thing as "All Black Colleges"


There are 1,119 All Black Universities in the United states.

Grambling State University
Hampton University
Huston-Tillotson College
Howard University
Jackson State University
Johnson C. Smith University
Kentucky State University
Langston University
LeMoyne-Owen College
Lincoln University
Meharry Medical College
Mississippi Valley State University
Morehouse College

Morehouse School of Medicine
Morgan State University
Morris College
Morris Brown College
Norfolk State University
North Carolina A&T State University
North Carolina Central University
Oakwood College
Paine College
Philander Smith College
Prairie View A&M College
Saint Paul's College
South Carolina State University
Southern University and A&M College
Southern University at New Orleans
Spelman College
Stillman College
Texas Southern University
Tennessee State University
Tougaloo College
Tuskegee University
University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff
University of the District of Columbia
University of Maryland Eastern Shore
University of the Virgin Islands
Voorhees Colleges
West Virginia State College
Wilberforce University
Winston-Salem State University
Xavier University of Louisiana

Historically Black Colleges and Universities Presidential Executive Order

List of HBCUsWhite House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities
AND ABSOLUTELY ZERO DISALLOW WHITE STUDENTS! =) We can find just as many... in fact 100 times that of historically white colleges. haha. Let's not be hypocrites now.
"I want all Americans to have the same rights as anyone else and you are correct the tide is turning in that direction. Finally we can all take responsibilty fr our own foul ups, and all of us can get what we have earned no matter what our race is. "

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Yep and we should all be able to marry who we fuckin want. =)
And on that we can agree I could care less if gays want to marry, LOL they can have it!!!!
Cheers.
I am not being a hypocrite at all. Instead of all black I guess I should have said Predominantly Black. I apologize. I want all American to meet their dreams.
Yep and there are tons of "predominately white" universities.. haha.. I live near one of them.
Well? Utah? LOL
All over Free.. Let's not forget that we got our first black president after nearly 250 years. Again, hypocrisy doesn't help the situation. =))
Hypocracy? LOL OK Since I want ALL Americans to succeed I am a hypocrite. Not black, White, hispanic, or any other color of the rainbow, I am a hypocrite
All American's succeeding would be Gay's being allowed to marry just like Straights. =)
No arguement from me...Let them merry, they can have it.
Any idea how many gay family members I have? LOL Again the jester writes before thinking...LOL