Swingers Forum - I learned a new word today........

HAHA!! Fucker! AHAHA!

Obamunists Unite! HAHA!

Yeah and you are nay saying asshole, that thinks racism and unethical business practice are ok. So I think I will take your insult as a compliment. You do hypocrisy well.

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"Racism is a form of discrimination. Discrimination is always present in this life. "

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So is murder, it doesn't make it acceptable. Your lack of common sense and intelligence makes this debate (YEAH RIGHT) boring. I'll chalk this one up as mine and you can think whatever you like. HAHAHA!! I guess I'll go stamp my feet like a child because I want what is right a just. Man you are fuckin stupid.

You're not "laying out facts". I don't care if you disagree with me. You are trying to justify racism, by saying "it's always been around".... I don't even have to point out the fucking stupidity in that logic. If I see you beating your wife. I am not going to shrug my shoulders and say, it happens and has happened since humans began... OF COURSE IT HAS! Stating the obvious point that "it has always happened" doesn't justify the action. Remember, if it walks like a duck. If you talk like an idiot, I am gonna call you an idiot.

If your version of "ethics" contained theft and I called you a fucktard... YOU ARE A FUCKTARD! You condone racism, exploitation of worker and theft. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT! I don't care if you think I am "stamping my feet" or not... I don't care what thieving racist fucktards think of me.



-D-

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on:
Nov 30, 2008 - 2:28 pm
FUCKTARD!

So is murder, it doesn't make it acceptable.

Your lack of common sense and intelligence makes this debate (YEAH RIGHT) boring. I'll chalk this one up as mine and you can think whatever you like. HAHAHA!! I guess I'll go stamp my feet like a child because I want what is right a just. Man you are fuckin stupid.

You're not "laying out facts". I don't care if you disagree with me. You are trying to justify racism, by saying "it's always been around".... I don't even have to point out the fucking stupidity in that logic.

If I see you beating your wife. I am not going to shrug my shoulders and say, it happens and has happened since humans began... OF COURSE IT HAS! Stating the obvious point that "it has always happened" doesn't justify the action. Remember, if it walks like a duck. If you talk like an idiot, I am gonna call you an idiot.

If your version of "ethics" contained theft and I called you a fucktard... YOU ARE A FUCKTARD! You condone racism, exploitation of worker and theft. YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT! I don't care if you think I am "stamping my feet" or not... I don't care what thieving racist fucktards think of me

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Highly expressive but really lacking in content.

All right. I agree it is not acceptable. Now what? Fight and win every battle? To what end? Can you really win the war on discrimination? Can you realistically even with the war on a small sliver of discrimination we call racism? I rather accept it for what it is and try work within the system to better myself than to tear my hair out every day crying over what cannot be changed.

Before you go stamping your feet, can you educate me about whether it is common sense to spend energy in fighting a fight that will not be won as opposed to trying to work some other way around it? If a storm is coming my way, should I try find shelter or stand my ground shouting at it in the hopes it goes somewhere else?

In your book, maybe. You see it as Boolean. Either I fight it or I am justifying it. Either I am against it or I am for it. How about this. I am not going to waste my life fighting the good fight if it cannot be won that way. Take your own example of Asian men having a 2 inch dick. What do you think I should do about it? Send hit men to kill you? What would it do? Even if get a picture of my 15 inch dick and have it certified by someone you trust, you could still tell me I am a minority and Asian men have 2 inch dick.

What are you going to do about it? Beat me up? Follow me around 24 hrs a day to make sure I don't beat the wife ever again? You cannot. With racism, you cannot go around demanding I change my attitude towards race X. Well, you could but it would do no good. The only way is for race X to make what I am saying meaningless so that it stays with me and cannot contaminate the minds of others. If you cannot do that, you have NOTHING. IF you can do that, you would not be bothered with what I say. After all, who would listen to me saying that race X is worthless except for a few worthless idiots whose opinion won't amount to much. Bottom line, you win. Racism towards race X is quarantined (quarantined, not eliminated) and race X gets further ahead.

Simple question. Can you make a point without being abusive, acerbic or calling names? Is it that hard or what?

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on:
Nov 30, 2008 - 11:02 pm
According to you.

So we should give up on trying to prevent murder as well? HAHA! Yes, we should stand up against all forms of racism, until it is actually totally taboo in our society and the racist fucktards are known for what the trully are.... SCARED LITTLE PUSSIES!

Racism can be remedied. Black people are voting aren't they? You have your citizenship and your power to vote, don't you!!!!??? The fight is being won! HAHA!

Yes and I label you a coward. The same type of person that would stick your head in the sand when someone was being assaulted or raped in front of you... I get it.

It's my job to educate myself. If I actually believed you and every Japanese guy had a two inch penis, that would be my idiocy... Right??? YES!!! Why should you have to take a picture of anything. THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING!

1) Yes, if I saw you beating your wife, I would beat you to sleep. Then I would be a key witness in the trial convicting you of domestic violence. With Racism I can make most of the hateful things you do a crime. As time passes more and more people are ridiculed for racist behavior as they should be. You can believe what you want... It'll just be at your own consequence, both socially and criminally.

No, what is happening is called politically correctness!! HAHA! PC. If I make your racist bullshit socially unacceptable... I win. I know it will always exist among the small minded... However, should their feeble mindedness ever manifest itself beyond their mind, punishment will follow deterring the rest of the small-minded fucktards. HAHA! I win!

1) you address me without making snide reference to my comprehension and intelligence and 2) When you don't say things that sound stupid as fuck to me. So far, you're incapable of either. So, let's not be a sniveling hypocrite.

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OK. I'll bite. What is the content in "fucktard"? Besides "I don't agree", that is.

I gave up a long time ago. I take a more defensive position by doing my best to make sure it doesn't happen to me or affect me as little as possible. Maybe you think you will live forever. I don't estimate I have more than 30 years of useful life left. Probably less and I will be damned if I waste it on something that is impossible for me to see in my lifetime even if I lived to be 200 yo.

Trust me on this when I tell you that the discrimination you can actually see is merely the tip of the iceberg. Discrimination is a lot more subtle than black people being able to vote. As I have said before, you WILL win some battles. Of that I have no doubt. To truly eliminate discrimination is all is subtle forms is going to take more than voting rights. Yes I can vote and yes I am a citizen. That said, there are still going to be people that look down on me because of my race, religion, sexual preference, etc, etc.

You could say that, yes. Would I jump in for a total stranger? Not on your life. Let 911 handle it. If it were somebody like my wife or someone I was close to, that is a different story. I have this one body and this one life. I don't risk it for just anybody. They have to be worth it to me before I get down and dirty.

Yeah, right. And you would bother to educate yourself because?? In a perfect or even better world, sure. In principle, I agree with you. However I wouldn't count on people changing for the better.

I guess that is the difference. You would put yourself at risk for a total stranger because you think they are worth it. I don't think they are worth it for the most part so I don't bother. Call it cowardice or "I don't give a damn because you are not worth it" attitude. They do say that a roomfull of monkeys with typewriters will create the great literary works of the world. Unfortunately, the problem is that the monkeys will not live long enough for that to happen. You aren't thinking this will be accomplished in your lifetime, are you?

You are talking of driving it underground and you think that is a win? You think silent resentment is a win? All PC does is muzzle people. It certainly will not change minds. It might even make racism better on the surface but worse down below. And no, you cannot eradicate all the racist thoughts and behaviors by turning the place into a nazi state. PC will drive racism underground, make it harder to detect and even push people who are borderline, over the edge. The die-hards you cannot convert. You know that and I know that. You will never convince a Grand Imperial Wizard that the minority is his equal. Another waste of time and effort. But if you use PC as a clout, you might help him convince someone who is on the edge that the Klan has a point. David Duke no longer wears the robes but he is more dangerous that 10 Klansmen. He is way more persuasive than 10 guys in robes chanting "Death to Niggers". The 10 guys in the robes are too shocking for most but if you look at Duke and listen to him, you might not realize it before you get sucked into his tripe. Your PC clout will get rid of the 10 Klansmen but will grow the smart ones like Duke which is where the bigger damage will come from. 1 Duke can subvert more people than 10 Klansmen. I used to go to Klan rallies for amusement. They were so desperate for members they even asked me if I would like to join. People like Duke will never talk to you about the Klan initially. They know how to play on your fears, likes and dislikes until YOU will ask him about the Klan. That is what you want to remove and think you have scored?

1. YOU didn't do that? Really?

2. That is impossible as long as I or anyone disagrees with you. Having read your previous posts to others, I have yet to see a pattern of respect for anyone who disagrees with your ideas. Pretty much if anyone dares to disagree with Don, the idea is stupid. I guess my choice is either to disagree and get your abuse or be your sycophant and be in your good graces, right?

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on:
Dec 1, 2008 - 7:17 pm
I've disagreed with plenty of people here that are my very good friends.

However, you'll never get respect from me, when you advocate that which I find despicable. You see how that works?

However, those that gave a shit about his skin color, his religious preference and if he wore a fuckin lapel pin, were and will remain fucktards in my eyes. I don't expect you'll ever get it.
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Perhaps so but your posts latey don't seem to reflect that

I already know how it works. The math with you is pretty simple. "I don't like what you like so you are a fucktard, moron, etc, etc and I will abuse you till you see things my way." Unlike the black lawyer that defended the KKK a few years ago, YOU do not possess that ability.

As to his skin color or lapel pin, you might have a point about it being silly. His religious preference is a different story. Take the incident when we went to Afghanistan. We had US Servicemen who were muslim having to clear their deployment with someone in Saudi Arabia. I can see why people are wondering where his allegiance lies and with the position he is running for, it might be a true concern. Again, I do get it. "Agree with me or you will be a fucktard". I don't agree with the Klan but somehow, I don't see the need to abuse them or ridicule their ideas. I will defend their right to run a "White Power" rally as much as I will defend the rights of someone who wants a MLK rally.

Posted By: CHRKE2 Reply posted on:
Dec 10, 2008 - 2:10 pm
Do you not have children? Do you not care what direction the country heads as long as it doesn't significantly impact you? Do you understand the power of synergy?

You are very clear, it seems to me, that little matters except YOU. In my world that translates to selfish and over-the-top egocentric - your prerogative for sure, but not particularly admirable.

The way to tackle large, seemingly insurmountable problems is to chip away at them with a concerted effort from many.

Given that you seem to have no interest in the welfare of others, at least not enough to lift a finger to promote racial equality, I'll repeat a previous comment I believe I made - If you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. I am extremely glad that most folks don't display the degree of apathy that you represent.

By the way, skip the hypothetical wife-beating - would you turn away if it were a child?
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No kids. Didn't like to have them enough so we decided not to bring kids into the world if we were not 100% interested in them. I can't say I really I pay much attention to synergy.

I can always tell you a bunch of lies and sound like a candidate for "Humanitarian of the world". Is that what you would like to hear? Fact of the matter is that is what I hear from others too. However, as my old boss would tell you, "Words only go so far". What I have seen is that people will say all kinds of good stuff. However, when it really comes down to it, little of that really gets done. So, what is such good sounding speeches really worth in your book. Am I selfish? Sure. Any more than most people when you strip off the nice words and watch their actions? I doubt it. But as I said, I can tell you a nice story if that is what you want. I woke up from that fairy tale world I was brought up in. I see that people are basically bad so why should I care about them if they will not care for me come crunch time? So, as a rule, yes, I will be selfish to others. OTOH, if they prove to be different (few, if any really can), I will adjust my treatment of them. As Chase Bank's motto goes "Chase, where the RIGHT RELATIONSHIP is everything.". Because of low expectations of others, I put out little for them and in return, either they will pleasantly surprise me or at the least they won't disappoint me.

And that is the basis of communism/socialism. Each of us brings something and we have a great feast. Unfortunately, because of human nature, sooner or later someone will get the bright idea to slack off and it will spread. Again, if I see that people really do what they say, I might feel more hopeful about what you are saying.

I don't see it as doable. Unlike TR, I don't believe in beating you into submission. The Japs did that in the conquered territories. They planted the flag and if you walked past and didn't salute, you might lose your head literally. Didn't make the conquered people any more loyal to Japan. I don't believe in beating you into believing that I am your equal. Kinda like the little cars with the stickers of hot rod parts manufacturers. I prefer to demonstrate speed as opposed to advertising it. I cannot make racial equality. It is the affected that needs to show that they are on par with the rest. We used to be able to call Japanese cars "Jap Crap". Why can't we do that today? Because they have made themselves so good our own industry is dying. Today, we even look down on our own products in comparison to them. That combined with my apathy of people in general and the fact that I don't see it as doable makes me inclined not to bother.

Why would a child make a difference to me? How is a child's life any more valuable than your's? Like I said, I would call 911 but I would not be inclined to intervene physically simply because I don't have a high enough opinion of mankind in general. Again, if that were the child of my BFF or something like that, sure. A stranger, no thanx. Once again, no relationship to me makes it real hard to justify getting hurt or them.

Ya know, Aklim, you really do set a new standard for cynicism.

Posted By: CHRKE2 Reply posted on:
Dec 11, 2008 - 5:03 am
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Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on:
Dec 11, 2008 - 11:06 am
I am not saying you need to change anyone's mind, you provide them with the tools to change it themselves, if they don't they suffer the consequences of holding such ignorant views.

You said it yourself, racism is wrong. It should be condemned. PERIOD!

Through education and deterrence we will keep this monster of ignorance and stupidity, called racism, at bay. Quite simple.
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The only "tool" I know of to change a negative stereotype is a positive stereotype. If your company makes bad products and has a bad name, use the energy to make a better product. IF you succeed, you won't even have time to debate how poorly or well your products are made. You will be too busy counting the money coming in from sales to even bother.

Condemning others who disagree into shutting up takes energy and time. Both of which can be dedicated to making yourself better. I think of it as a
"Twofer". I get to make you look ridiculous AND enjoy the fruits of my labor.

Like I said, if your goal is to merely keep it at bay, you can succeed to a point at the expense of time and energy. That is part of the reason I prefer to accept it as part of life. Less hair tearing and I can dedicated myself to self improvement. If I succeed in my self improvement, I will not only want to listen to what you have to say. I will welcome your bad mouthing. Not only will you shoot your own credibility to hell but you will also the frustrated one getting pissed at your lack of ability to run me down.

"For example, if an employer wants to hire and fire employees based upon their race, religion, nationality, sex, etc. that is his/her right.

My right involves whether I want to interact or do business with that employer. If I step beyond my right, and gather a bunch of people to force my will against that employer, then I am a discriminator of the worst kind. "

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You are only supporting my view. I am not saying force anyone to believe anything. I am saying exercise my right to express their views about ignorant racist. If you want the right to hate someone over skin color and give them consequences for being of a different race, Then people who feel the way I do should be able to give consequences to those that we deem inferior. If people like me campaign to ridicule discrimination and intolerance of race, gender, sexual preference, age etc... Then you have no argument. If you feel the way you say, then don't deny me my discrimination of ignorant racists.

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Posted By: INDEP0102 Reply posted on:
Dec 12, 2008 - 3:15 am
Some pretty bold words against racism. But I believe it vital to allow people to discriminate in their private activities and public expressions.

For example, if an employer wants to hire and fire employees based upon their race, religion, nationality, sex, etc. that is his/her right.

Using statutes to force morality nearly always exacerbates the problems.
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You will have to since you will not be able to stop it. You can try but that is all you really get in the long run.

I agree. IF they are right that the group they don't like is inferior, more power to them. If they are wrong, that employee will be able to do better elsewhere.

It also makes the problem morph into something else. Take AA for instance. OK, now I am a college graduate. How can I be sure that I earned it honestly and am equal to the white man? I can't. If you want to tell me that my degree might have AA taint, what can I say?

Aklim posted:

<font color="#ff0000"><i>"Employees do not have a right to work or be treated equally, unless there is a private contract in place detailing such. Suppliers, shoppers, and the community do not have a right to tell me who to hire, or whether I treat them equally."</i></font>

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WRONG!!!! They're called civil rights.



<font color="#ff0000"><i>"Forcing ideology at the point of a gun causes deep resentment by those who are pushed around. The party that should be disciplined through voluntary actions now has a legitimate claim to victimhood and will gain support among others. "</i></font>

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I'd rather bigots be pushed around than the person that's being discriminated upon for innate traits. Bigots get not pity from me.


<font color="#ff0000"><i>"If you are going to act upon your ideology, be an adult about it. Don't pursue your objectives through mob-rule and force. Put your mouth and your feet to appropriate use. "</i></font>

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Na I think the civil rights movement proves you wrong. Not only did changes that rid the land of Jim Crow and Segregation laws, but public ridicule of such ignorance has greatly reduced it in public. I think history sides with me. "Objectives through mob-rule and force" are called LAWS! Hate it all you like..

-D-

Posted By: CHRKE2 Posted on:
Dec 16, 2008 - 5:44 am
I believe our country was founded on the notion that all men (individuals) are created equal? It is a vital component of our constitution!

If you are saying that is contradictory to your belief system, you are the one who is in the wrong country.

I have described you as egocentric and overly selfish before, and since I do not recall you refuting that, I guess we

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 16, 2008 - 11:48 am
Aklim, that's the point. You say if they "choose not to improve", then the impression will remain the same. I am saying there is no "improvement" to be made. It's morons that think there needs to be an improvement that actually need to make one. It's they that are actually inferior, because of their ignorance. They are the actual problem. If we rid ourselves of the ignorant morons that think people are inequal based on innate traites like race, gender, sexuality, we will greatly reduce and eventually rid ourselves of our trully inferior people.

What "we can do", is what we've been doing. We force you, through the law, to treat your employees fairly. We fine you when you break them.

Sure there will be those minorities that take advantage of the system, but hey, the system wouldn't need to be there if it weren't for all the ignorant bigots... RIGHT? HAHAHA!!!

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And if people did the right thing all the time, we'd be sitting around the fire singing "Kumbaya". Never happen in this life. Maybe the next. If you could rid us of these sort of people, would we be having this conversation? People have tried it and it failed. Prejudice has existed since the beginning of mankind. So, what do you want to do? You can stamp your feed and pout but that is life. I can tell me it isn't fair that you judge me on your skin color, sexuality, social status, car you drive, clothes you wear or even my accent. In a perfect world, you would fall on your knees and beg me for forgiveness, promise to mend your ways, sacrifice a goat every Sunday, etc, etc. This isn't the perfect world. As such, I believe the best way to get over a negative stereotype is to make that stereotype non reflective of the group in general. Again, I am not debating you on whether that is right or not. I am merely saying that seems to be the most effective way.

If the law was so perfect, we wouldn't need religion to force compliance, would we? As I have said before, you like to club your opponent into submission. Not going to work here. Even in the Klan, we have people like David Duke that get it. Like him or not, he has achieved quite a bit for a Klansman. For a Grand Dragon in the Klan to get to be in the LA House of Representatives is quite an achievement. The next generation that people like him will breed, you won't even be able to point at finger at. As I said before, you will get most of the people that are blunt instruments but not the sophisticated ones. Mankind is way too devious for you to just come barging in trying to beat them into submission.

Where does that even come up?

Lets make it real simple. You will NOT convince a diehard. No way, no how. To even try to SLOW DOWN (Not Stop) discrimination, you need to convince the undecided. Those are the ones that can be swayed. All you are doing with your laws is to convince them that people like Duke are right. By chasing the obvious thugs, you are making them seem more of a martyr and more attractive. You know about the Forbidden Fruit and how good it is.

"Lets make it real simple. You will NOT convince a diehard. No way, no how. To even try to SLOW DOWN (Not Stop) discrimination, you need to convince the undecided. Those are the ones that can be swayed. All you are doing with your laws is to convince them that people like Duke are right. By chasing the obvious thugs, you are making them seem more of a martyr and more attractive. You know about the Forbidden Fruit and how good it is. "

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They don't have to be convinced. If they choose to keep suffering the consequence for their ignorance, that's on them. Of course there will always be the diehard fucking idiots. The truth is, we wouldn't be where we are with out my school of thought. We'd still have slaves and Jim Crow laws. Can't win this one...

-D-

Posted By: SURFRIDER619 Posted on:
Dec 19, 2008 - 7:16 am
AK,
But you will not shut up when all the evidence is against you.

Oh, and the back handed comments means nothing from you. It just shows how small of a person you

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 19, 2008 - 10:08 am
First off... We don't need religion. Religion is a choice. Secondly, we don't "catch every instance". Like murder, we don't catch every instance.

We punish it a we don't tolerated. That's what I've been saying all along. haha.

Thirdly, because if we don't punish them for their crimes, it won't deter others from doing it. We wouldn't have order. That's how civilization works. If we didn't, we'd have all the ignorant fucktards with weapons running the world. You maybe into regression... Most intelligent people aren't.

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Unlike murder, it isn't as serious an offense. Hence, if you are talking murder, we need to put more resources into catching the criminal. Discrimination in whatever form shouldn't rate as much in resources. Spitting on the sidewalk should rate even less resources.

I'm not sure what that first sentence is about.

I am not saying that we shouldn't punish them for their crimes. Sure, whatever makes you happy. My point is that at the end of the day, all you will have achieved is punishment of the few fools that stand up. You will lose the next generation and the next and the next. So what is your answer to that? Keep punishing them? That is why I say you cannot win against discrimination. It has so many forms and is a part of who we are as human beings. Discrimination is like herpes. You will never get rid of it. You are stuck with it. Maybe your way is great for the old days but like I am saying, people are getting more sophisticated today. Brute force may have been the answer yesterday to get rid of the Jim Crow Laws. Today, I don't think that is the answer. IMO, the answer lies in making sure the stereotype no longer applies. What you are talking about is using brute force to gag those who disagree with you. Yes, the stupid few will get caught but the smart ones will go underground AND breed a new group. If you cannot stop that breeding process, you are basically trying to band aid the process.

"Unlike murder, it isn't as serious an offense. Hence, if you are talking murder, we need to put more resources into catching the criminal. Discrimination in whatever form shouldn't rate as much in resources. Spitting on the sidewalk should rate even less resources. "
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I disagree. Discriminate based on race is just as bad as theft and murder. You are robbing someone of their equality in public. You can hold whatever fuckin retard view you want in private. When you are in public... WE ARE ALL EQUAL! PERIOD! If you don't like it.. move back to Asia.

-D-

I would say that if one were to consider all the crimes that have been committed where race was a primary factor, there probably is no appreciable difference. Racially-motivated crimes (which often include torturous acts) are so pervasive and largely unreported that it really isn't possible to call one worse than the other. That is why it was deemed necessary to introduce the "hate crime" laws.

Posted By: CHRKE2 Posted on:
Dec 20, 2008 - 5:15 am
I agree with you that you can

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 21, 2008 - 12:42 pm
Highway,
to me that is just as bad as death.

You wouldn't be singing that tune if it were you being denied. If you didn't have your freedom and you had someone else's religion jammed down your throat, you'd be up in arms as well.

Just know that I will be discriminating against racists.
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In which court in this country?

I would and have. Now what? Like I said, when you can understand Bumiputera, tell me about discrimination. I have seen it and been thru it. Mr B gets hired or you don't get to do any public contract work and pretty much everything is public contract. Mr B shows up once a month to get his check. NO WORK. Funny thing is that Mr B is a member of the Majority group but deemed not as economically well off and needs some help.

I see. So YOUR brand of discrimination is ok and good. No others, right? Sounds like a double standard to me.

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 23, 2008 - 11:08 am
They are both punishable is what I mean!

It's is never the responsibility of the person being discriminated upon to better itself in order to change the ignorant perspeption of those discriminating against him.

We educate them that discriminating by stereotyping is wrong.

Unless you're saying every Asian male should have to drop his trousers and proove that he isn't hung like a toddler. You first...
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Then I am confused. Now you say that they are both punishable which gives the impression that while they are both illegal, there is a difference in magnitude. However, you did say earlier is as bad as theft and murder. So which is it?

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 20, 2008 - 5:05 pm
I disagree. Discriminate based on race is just as bad as theft and murder.

In a perfect world, yes. Do you think this is a perfect world? If it were, would we even be having such a discussion? Call it an imperfect solution for an imperfect world. Like I said, stamping your feet and insisting people do the right thing is going to be difficult. If people could do the right thing, we wouldn't have all the problems in the world, now would we?

With what? Your good word? The only way you are going to convince someone of that is to show them proof. Words only go so far. You need to prove to them that the concept they held WAS right at the time. However, that time is past and TODAY, it is a new ball game, as they say.

IF the Asian men were that offended by that stereotype, I would say they should to prove that negative stereotype is false. If they are fine with that stereotype or it is true or they are too lazy to do anything about it, so be it.

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 23, 2008 - 3:51 pm
Dude, you are the most dense moron I have read.... I SAID I THINK THEY ARE AS BAD!!!!!! In our law they are both punishable. It's your school of thought that doesn't even apply...

You are saying the person discriminated upon should change themselves to change the ignorant fucktard's view.

I think you're a fuckin idiot. hahaha...

Get some common sense and we'll talk.. You're just a nay saying moron... You have no sense or ethics. I'm surprised you gained your citizenship.

Know that times are changing in my favor and morons like you are gettin faded. Go nay say someone else for awhile. I'm growing tired of slapping the idiot with his own hand.

No, if someone is stupid enough to believe it, they deserve to be ridiculed for their ignorance, more than the Asian person needs to whip their dick out and prove to the world it's not true. You are senseless.
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OK. So now we are clear. It is YOUR personal idea that they are equal. The law doesn't share YOUR opinion that they are on the same level. In our laws, spitting on the sidewalk might be punishable too. Someone like you might think it is as bad as murder too but the law doesn't see it that way. That was my point.

Well, if the shoe fits, wear it. All I am saying is that if your group is thought of as bad in some way and you are not, the proof is there. If your group is as bad as what the stereotype is, either change it so you are not anymore covered by the stereotype or live with it. You want to take the lazy way out. You want to remain the same but yet others should not be allowed to look down on you. Too bad that doesn't work with GM, Ford and Chrysler. We should be buying their products and giving them a chance. After all, not every GM is bad. I'll even go as far as to say that there are a few GMs that perform better than the few lemons the Japs have produced.

Like in your paragraph 1, it is YOUR opinion. What weight did we determine it carries again? But oh well, that is the best someone of your high caliber can do so, in the spirit of X'mas, I guess we will have to give it a pass.

Yes, we should all have YOUR sense of ethics. Sorry, I don't consider your respect worth the effort. What has my citizenship got to do with anything? If you don't like it, complain to your President. Tell him that only people YOU approve of should be granted citizenship. Lets see how far that goes.

Why don't you scrape your pennies together and buy this board so you can just ban me if you really don't like me. Maybe if you do, I might consider changing my ideas so it please you. Then, I will go hunting for flying pigs.

Again, you are too lazy to do what is necessary to change the negative stereotype. You want others to change themselves for you. Like I said, in the fairy tale world you live in, sure. This is NOT the world for it. But hey, here is an idea for you. Go try it out. Lose yourself a few customers my giving them bad products. See if you can promise a change in the next time and see if they will come back. Go create a negative stereotype of your products and see if they will give you a break. I know my customers won't.

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 26, 2008 - 11:24 am
WAH WAH WAH WAH WAH!! Is anyone else reminded of a Charlie Brown cartoon? Dude reads what he wants, no matter how erroneous he is and tries to justify racism. The laws are in my favor and society is changing in my favor. No one is having to prove anything about themselves to be considered equal. Being American is what makes us equal. All the racist and bigoted fucktards, like you, are being shoved into the social corner and made to look like the ignorant idiots you are.

All you want to do is have the last word. Because I slapped you around and exposed you in the debate. Everyone here, save your few fellow admitted racists, side with you. You were right about education and change... It's people like you and your future generation that need to be educated. The change change in society is not tolerating it and that's what's happening.

Does it hurt? Again, I already chalked this one up as mine... If you want the last word.. I might let you have it. hahaha.
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Again, I agree with you that the laws are there and they are doing a wonderful job ON THE SURFACE. If that is what you are looking for, you got it. Let me try to clear it up for you. Just because you put a gun to their head doesn't mean that they will not find some other way to rebel against you when you aren't watching nor does it change their attitude. If you can change the attitude, you won't get rebellion. Force them and you will get compliance but that is the end of it. You will not change anyone's attitude because you throw your famous tantrums and yell. Can you watch them 24X7X365? Probably not. That is why I said that the attitude change must come from WITHIN. They must do it because they believe it is the best way. As long as you cannot prove to them that the stereotype is inaccurate, you will still get the same sort of compliance as long as you point the metaphoric gun at their heads and as long as they believe you can watch them. Let me also inform you of one simple fact. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN MERE COMPLIANCE. Mere compliance that comes out of force is WORTHLESS. You talk of education. You simply have no clue as to how and with what. You think "Because I said so" works? Sure. When you were a kid and your dad could backhand you. When you grow up and he can no longer backhand you into obeying without question, the only thing that can work is if he explains to you why you need to follow a certain path. That explanation needs substance. All you want to do is use brute force to gain compliance. This is why I gave up on bothering with discrimination. I don't believe in brute force like you do and I don't see that the discriminated wants to do much to change the stereotype. As such, I don't see it going anywhere. So, if I can't fix it, I accept it for what it is and in all it's flavors be it racism, sexism, ageism, and all the other "ism"s I can think of.

Maybe so but certainly, you are not qualified to do any education. Your whole thing centers around using brute force to get your point across via intimidation. That trick isn't working here. All you can say is "It is what I said just cause." and stamp your feet. When I refuse to accept your "just cause", you get mad and get abusive. If you had a point, feel free to make it. Of course, based on your history, I realize that it is futile to expect more out of one such as you so I won't hold my breath while you make a lucid, thought out point sans the abusive, acerbic attitude.

It will take more than your abuse or intimidation to hurt me. As to you chalking anything up, might I remind you that in any game, no players get to chalk up anything. But, if you want it that bad, I'm good with that.

*YAWN* Not even reading this shit anymore.

And not to mention, if my memory is correct, I do believe it was blacks in Africa selling blacks to be used as slaves. Therefore don't put all the blame on the white race. But then you are tired now, so I'm sure no response will be coming. Is that it or is it that you just can't come up with some thing to dispute what I posted. By the way I did not write it, it was sent to me.

If I'm a racist you love to suck cock. I'm no more racist than you asswipe. It really does not matter where that piece came from you cannot refute it so there you all go again with the name calling. Go ahead dispute any part of it you'd like to. Or just hide behind your keyboard like a good little gay boy.

Posted By: HIGHWAY1 Posted on:
Dec 30, 2008 - 5:15 pm
If I'm a racist you love to suck cock. I'm no more racist than you asswipe. It really does not matter where that piece came from you cannot refute it so there you all go again with the name calling. Go ahead dispute any part of it you'd like to. Or just hide behind your keyboard like a good little gay boy.
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I suppose it is going to be how you define the word "racist" as to whether you are a racist or not.

Racism
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

Problem with that word is that it is used too often to intimidate others into a point of view. Along with the "If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem", it makes a good way to push those who are in the middle onto one side.

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Posted on:
Dec 31, 2008 - 9:27 pm
AKLIM,

Sounds like the excuse of a racist.
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Yes, I am a racist. Why? Because I won't flock to your banner, kiss your butt and agree with your way of doing things. I also question the way things are done that you approve of. That makes me a racist. Never mind that I haven't done anything against one race or the other. Sorry, I already know that trick. Don't agree with you and I get labeled a racist. Don't toe YOUR line and it is racism. Again, you are going to have to do way better than that if you think you can intimidate me into your way of thinking. Better than you have tried. I have seen that trick before where you bully someone into your way of thinking by calling them a racist so they obey you. Sorry, name calling and such don' work here. If you got a point, make it. Otherwise, try your intimidation routines on someone else who CAN be intimidated by you.

Well, gotta go. We got a big night ahead of us. Got us a cross burning to ring in the new year. I'd invite you but my spare sheets are at the dry cleaners. :!

NOPE

Yep and racism is the cause of many murders and rapes.. So intelligent people would say that it is much more severe than spitting on the side walk you fuckin witless turd. *rolling eyes*

You're not even fit to debate me. Again, my win.

blah blah blah blah... You lost... You're just running your prick scabbard... You were already schooled. It doesn't matter how many times you repeat your point, I all ready shot it down. Keep saying it though.. It's fun to watch you wallow in your own bullshit.

wah wah wah wah wah!!! still running your cockholster I see.

wah wah wah wah wah!!! still running your cockholster I see.

My exact thought regarding your lame ass.

I just love to bitch slap people verbally, when I find what they write or say to be retarded. haha.