1- To begin with, he has no executive experience at all. Zero. He has never run a state, city, municipality, business or popscicle stand. His experience as a State Senator from Illinois is remarkable only for the number of times he voted present. His 143 working days in the US Senate is void of any substantive contribution as he essentially started running for President almost immediately.
2- He is a Socialist straight out of the Karl Marx mold. His "spread the wealth around" comment is reminiscent of Marx's "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." This philosophy in government is fine in Europe (although it has led to stagnant economies, double digit unemployment and unholy tax burdens, i.e. France) but runs contrary to America's founding principles and tradition of rugged individualism. I have heard the reasoning that the only way to get greedy rich people to give more of their wealth to society is to take it from them through force of government. This is ludicrous, and completely against any notion that we remain a "free" country.
I don't know about you, but I never received a job from a poor person. The "evil" wealthy create jobs and buy the goods that keep the Americans who make them employed. The bottom 40% of wage earners in the US do not currently pay taxes anyway and Obama's "tax cut" for this class is nothing more than a blatant redistribution of wealth from those who are productive to those who are not.
3- He is dangerously naive in regards to foreign policy. His willingness to sit down, at a Presidential level without pre-conditions, with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela is illustrative of his woeful ignorance. He is beholden to the United Nations and would limit America's sovereignty and abridge our ability to unilaterally defend our national security interests.
He has shown a weakness towards Russia that Putin and Medvedev will exploit to their benefit as they re-establish themselves as a world superpower and complete their energy stranglehold on Europe through territorial control of the last independent oil pipeline in Georgia. He will pull us completely out of the Iraq, thereby cedeing ideological control of the region to the Islamic Fundamentalists in Iran. He would not allow Israel permission to use Ameriacan airspace in Iraq to enable the Israeli's to pre-emptively strike a immently nuclear Iran the same way they did to Iraq in 1982 and Syria in 2006, in both cases doing the world an immense favor. Any nuclear weapon obtained by the Iranians will undoubtably end up in the hands of Hezbollah for execution of the Iranian's stated goal of "wiping Israel off of the map". Any nuclear strike on Israel will provoke a massive response from Israel via their exceedingly advanced nuclear arsenal (courtesy the USA) and the ensuing disaster would be biblical in its proportions.
Obama's stated desire to unilaterally renegotiate NAFTA would be a financial disaster for America as it would allow Mexico and Canada to both sell their oil on the open market to China, greatly destabilizing our already fragile energy situation. Not to mention the impact on our agricultural sector of the economy. These are but two examples from the many reasons why we should not be picking a fight with our two closest trading partners and allies.
4- His victory would add the Presidency to what is likely to be a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a veto-proof majority in the House, giving liberal democrats control over the Legislative and Executive branches. The last two times in modern history that the democrats had such super majorities was in 1938 when we got Roosevelt's "New Deal" and in 1966 with Johnson's "Great Society". The greatest expansions of government's power giving us all of the current entitlement programs that are currently bankrupting our country, i.e. Social Security in the case of the former and Medi-care in the case of the latter. This time it will no doubt be Health Care. Anyone who thinks that the government taking over your Health Care is a good idea should stop and think. Name one thing the government does well that gives you any confidence they wont screw this up as well? Imagine the DMV experience at the ER. Not good. Our country's government is dependent upon checks and balances and to give either party a fillibuster proof majority is to grant a license for tyranny.
5- His socialist tax policies combined with oppressive federal regulations on private industry have been tried before during Jimmy Carter and those of us who are old enough still remember the gas lines and Misery Index. To listen to Obama, one would think that the solution to every problem we face can be found in big government. I fondly remember one of Reagan's great lines, "The scariest statement one could ever hear is: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
There is a silver lining to Obama getting elected however. Finally the democrats would have control over every part of government and could no longer mindlessly blame every ill our country has upon George W. Bush. They will inevitably blow it causing them to lose power for another 8-16 years ala Jimmy Carter. Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.
2- He is a Socialist straight out of the Karl Marx mold. His "spread the wealth around" comment is reminiscent of Marx's "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." This philosophy in government is fine in Europe (although it has led to stagnant economies, double digit unemployment and unholy tax burdens, i.e. France) but runs contrary to America's founding principles and tradition of rugged individualism. I have heard the reasoning that the only way to get greedy rich people to give more of their wealth to society is to take it from them through force of government. This is ludicrous, and completely against any notion that we remain a "free" country.
I don't know about you, but I never received a job from a poor person. The "evil" wealthy create jobs and buy the goods that keep the Americans who make them employed. The bottom 40% of wage earners in the US do not currently pay taxes anyway and Obama's "tax cut" for this class is nothing more than a blatant redistribution of wealth from those who are productive to those who are not.
3- He is dangerously naive in regards to foreign policy. His willingness to sit down, at a Presidential level without pre-conditions, with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela is illustrative of his woeful ignorance. He is beholden to the United Nations and would limit America's sovereignty and abridge our ability to unilaterally defend our national security interests.
He has shown a weakness towards Russia that Putin and Medvedev will exploit to their benefit as they re-establish themselves as a world superpower and complete their energy stranglehold on Europe through territorial control of the last independent oil pipeline in Georgia. He will pull us completely out of the Iraq, thereby cedeing ideological control of the region to the Islamic Fundamentalists in Iran. He would not allow Israel permission to use Ameriacan airspace in Iraq to enable the Israeli's to pre-emptively strike a immently nuclear Iran the same way they did to Iraq in 1982 and Syria in 2006, in both cases doing the world an immense favor. Any nuclear weapon obtained by the Iranians will undoubtably end up in the hands of Hezbollah for execution of the Iranian's stated goal of "wiping Israel off of the map". Any nuclear strike on Israel will provoke a massive response from Israel via their exceedingly advanced nuclear arsenal (courtesy the USA) and the ensuing disaster would be biblical in its proportions.
Obama's stated desire to unilaterally renegotiate NAFTA would be a financial disaster for America as it would allow Mexico and Canada to both sell their oil on the open market to China, greatly destabilizing our already fragile energy situation. Not to mention the impact on our agricultural sector of the economy. These are but two examples from the many reasons why we should not be picking a fight with our two closest trading partners and allies.
4- His victory would add the Presidency to what is likely to be a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a veto-proof majority in the House, giving liberal democrats control over the Legislative and Executive branches. The last two times in modern history that the democrats had such super majorities was in 1938 when we got Roosevelt's "New Deal" and in 1966 with Johnson's "Great Society". The greatest expansions of government's power giving us all of the current entitlement programs that are currently bankrupting our country, i.e. Social Security in the case of the former and Medi-care in the case of the latter. This time it will no doubt be Health Care. Anyone who thinks that the government taking over your Health Care is a good idea should stop and think. Name one thing the government does well that gives you any confidence they wont screw this up as well? Imagine the DMV experience at the ER. Not good. Our country's government is dependent upon checks and balances and to give either party a fillibuster proof majority is to grant a license for tyranny.
5- His socialist tax policies combined with oppressive federal regulations on private industry have been tried before during Jimmy Carter and those of us who are old enough still remember the gas lines and Misery Index. To listen to Obama, one would think that the solution to every problem we face can be found in big government. I fondly remember one of Reagan's great lines, "The scariest statement one could ever hear is: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
There is a silver lining to Obama getting elected however. Finally the democrats would have control over every part of government and could no longer mindlessly blame every ill our country has upon George W. Bush. They will inevitably blow it causing them to lose power for another 8-16 years ala Jimmy Carter. Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.
1- To begin with, he has no executive experience at all. Zero. He has never run a state, city, municipality, business or popscicle stand. His experience as a State Senator from Illinois is remarkable only for the number of times he voted present. His 143 working days in the US Senate is void of any substantive contribution as he essentially started running for President almost immediately.
<font color ="ff0000">Neither has McCain</font>
2- He is a Socialist straight out of the Karl Marx mold. His "spread the wealth around" comment is reminiscent of Marx's "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." This philosophy in government is fine in Europe (although it has led to stagnant economies, double digit unemployment and unholy tax burdens, i.e. France) but runs contrary to America's founding principles and tradition of rugged individualism. I have heard the reasoning that the only way to get greedy rich people to give more of their wealth to society is to take it from them through force of government. This is ludicrous, and completely against any notion that we remain a "free" country.
<font color ="ff0000">No more that McCain is a Paelocon fascist.</font>
I don't know about you, but I never received a job from a poor person. The "evil" wealthy create jobs and buy the goods that keep the Americans who make them employed. The bottom 40% of wage earners in the US do not currently pay taxes anyway and Obama's "tax cut" for this class is nothing more than a blatant redistribution of wealth from those who are productive to those who are not.
<font color ="ff0000">n a socio-capitalist society like Canada, you wouldn't have to. Though you could get a job from a company who was own by the people of the U.S.
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3- He is dangerously naive in regards to foreign policy. His willingness to sit down, at a Presidential level without pre-conditions, with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela is illustrative of his woeful ignorance. He is beholden to the United Nations and would limit America's sovereignty and abridge our ability to unilaterally defend our national security interests.
<font color ="ff0000">That would be McCain. He lied about his trip to Iraq and the troop surge. Can't point spain out on a map and called Putin the leader of Germany. He's a moron.
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He has shown a weakness towards Russia that Putin and Medvedev will exploit to their benefit as they re-establish themselves as a world superpower and complete their energy stranglehold on Europe through territorial control of the last independent oil pipeline in Georgia. He will pull us completely out of the Iraq, thereby cedeing ideological control of the region to the Islamic Fundamentalists in Iran. He would not allow Israel permission to use Ameriacan airspace in Iraq to enable the Israeli's to pre-emptively strike a immently nuclear Iran the same way they did to Iraq in 1982 and Syria in 2006, in both cases doing the world an immense favor. Any nuclear weapon obtained by the Iranians will undoubtably end up in the hands of Hezbollah for execution of the Iranian's stated goal of "wiping Israel off of the map". Any nuclear strike on Israel will provoke a massive response from Israel via their exceedingly advanced nuclear arsenal (courtesy the USA) and the ensuing disaster would be biblical in its proportions.
<font color ="ff0000">More fearmongering BS. Perhaps if we weren't drumming up wars with people and trying to steal their oil all at the cost of American lives and money, we would not have lost the worlds confidence and respect. We allowed some redneck moron from Texas ruin our country's properity over the last eight years. </font>
Obama's stated desire to unilaterally renegotiate NAFTA would be a financial disaster for America as it would allow Mexico and Canada to both sell their oil on the open market to China, greatly destabilizing our already fragile energy situation. Not to mention the impact on our agricultural sector of the economy. These are but two examples from the many reasons why we should not be picking a fight with our two closest trading partners and allies.
<font color ="ff0000">It's kinda like McSame's healthcare vouchers that would cause current policy owners to loser their policies. YEAH! What about his dealing with Columbia where he want to deal with leaders like in Iraq where human rights are out the window and our people are at risk. The Panamania born McCain, can identify with them, I am sure, but hey... We have to take care of ours.</font>
4- His victory would add the Presidency to what is likely to be a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a veto-proof majority in the House, giving liberal democrats control over the Legislative and Executive branches. The last two times in modern history that the democrats had such super majorities was in 1938 when we got Roosevelt's "New Deal" and in 1966 with Johnson's "Great Society". The greatest expansions of government's power giving us all of the current entitlement programs that are currently bankrupting our country, i.e. Social Security in the case of the former and Medi-care in the case of the latter. This time it will no doubt be Health Care. Anyone who thinks that the government taking over your Health Care is a good idea should stop and think. Name one thing the government does well that gives you any confidence they wont screw this up as well? Imagine the DMV experience at the ER. Not good. Our country's government is dependent upon checks and balances and to give either party a fillibuster proof majority is to grant a license for tyranny.
<font color ="ff0000">Calling Bullshit. Bush Sr. First dealt with Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac in 1992. You can't blame Democrats only buddy. I also heard from one of your own, that in 2003 McCain allegedly knew about the issue, but did nothing. hmmm. Let's not forget that the Iraq war and occupation just cost tax payers over 3 trillion dollars and is costing more that 240 billion a year to sustain.</font>
5- His socialist tax policies combined with oppressive federal regulations on private industry have been tried before during Jimmy Carter and those of us who are old enough still remember the gas lines and Misery Index. To listen to Obama, one would think that the solution to every problem we face can be found in big government. I fondly remember one of Reagan's great lines, "The scariest statement one could ever hear is: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
<font color ="ff0000">Yeah we should regulate corporations, like fanny mae, freddy mac, enron, AIG or the countless others that abuse our people and our system. AIG, these same motherfuckers that went on a spending spree with bailout money. How about all these companies that hire illegal aliens?? WHAT FUCKIN WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN! They'd rather hire a Mexican or Indian at a slave wage, than pay you or I a livable wage. </font>
There is a silver lining to Obama getting elected however. Finally the democrats would have control over every part of government and could no longer mindlessly blame every ill our country has upon George W. Bush. They will inevitably blow it causing them to lose power for another 8-16 years ala Jimmy Carter. Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.
<font color ="ff0000">Wow that's the pot calling the kettle black. HAHA! You motherfuckers are trying to blame democrats of Bush's bullshit. What a fuckin hypocrite.</font>
<font color ="ff0000">Neither has McCain</font>
2- He is a Socialist straight out of the Karl Marx mold. His "spread the wealth around" comment is reminiscent of Marx's "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." This philosophy in government is fine in Europe (although it has led to stagnant economies, double digit unemployment and unholy tax burdens, i.e. France) but runs contrary to America's founding principles and tradition of rugged individualism. I have heard the reasoning that the only way to get greedy rich people to give more of their wealth to society is to take it from them through force of government. This is ludicrous, and completely against any notion that we remain a "free" country.
<font color ="ff0000">No more that McCain is a Paelocon fascist.</font>
I don't know about you, but I never received a job from a poor person. The "evil" wealthy create jobs and buy the goods that keep the Americans who make them employed. The bottom 40% of wage earners in the US do not currently pay taxes anyway and Obama's "tax cut" for this class is nothing more than a blatant redistribution of wealth from those who are productive to those who are not.
<font color ="ff0000">n a socio-capitalist society like Canada, you wouldn't have to. Though you could get a job from a company who was own by the people of the U.S.
</font>3- He is dangerously naive in regards to foreign policy. His willingness to sit down, at a Presidential level without pre-conditions, with the leaders of Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Venezuela is illustrative of his woeful ignorance. He is beholden to the United Nations and would limit America's sovereignty and abridge our ability to unilaterally defend our national security interests.
<font color ="ff0000">That would be McCain. He lied about his trip to Iraq and the troop surge. Can't point spain out on a map and called Putin the leader of Germany. He's a moron.
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He has shown a weakness towards Russia that Putin and Medvedev will exploit to their benefit as they re-establish themselves as a world superpower and complete their energy stranglehold on Europe through territorial control of the last independent oil pipeline in Georgia. He will pull us completely out of the Iraq, thereby cedeing ideological control of the region to the Islamic Fundamentalists in Iran. He would not allow Israel permission to use Ameriacan airspace in Iraq to enable the Israeli's to pre-emptively strike a immently nuclear Iran the same way they did to Iraq in 1982 and Syria in 2006, in both cases doing the world an immense favor. Any nuclear weapon obtained by the Iranians will undoubtably end up in the hands of Hezbollah for execution of the Iranian's stated goal of "wiping Israel off of the map". Any nuclear strike on Israel will provoke a massive response from Israel via their exceedingly advanced nuclear arsenal (courtesy the USA) and the ensuing disaster would be biblical in its proportions.
<font color ="ff0000">More fearmongering BS. Perhaps if we weren't drumming up wars with people and trying to steal their oil all at the cost of American lives and money, we would not have lost the worlds confidence and respect. We allowed some redneck moron from Texas ruin our country's properity over the last eight years. </font>
Obama's stated desire to unilaterally renegotiate NAFTA would be a financial disaster for America as it would allow Mexico and Canada to both sell their oil on the open market to China, greatly destabilizing our already fragile energy situation. Not to mention the impact on our agricultural sector of the economy. These are but two examples from the many reasons why we should not be picking a fight with our two closest trading partners and allies.
<font color ="ff0000">It's kinda like McSame's healthcare vouchers that would cause current policy owners to loser their policies. YEAH! What about his dealing with Columbia where he want to deal with leaders like in Iraq where human rights are out the window and our people are at risk. The Panamania born McCain, can identify with them, I am sure, but hey... We have to take care of ours.</font>
4- His victory would add the Presidency to what is likely to be a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and a veto-proof majority in the House, giving liberal democrats control over the Legislative and Executive branches. The last two times in modern history that the democrats had such super majorities was in 1938 when we got Roosevelt's "New Deal" and in 1966 with Johnson's "Great Society". The greatest expansions of government's power giving us all of the current entitlement programs that are currently bankrupting our country, i.e. Social Security in the case of the former and Medi-care in the case of the latter. This time it will no doubt be Health Care. Anyone who thinks that the government taking over your Health Care is a good idea should stop and think. Name one thing the government does well that gives you any confidence they wont screw this up as well? Imagine the DMV experience at the ER. Not good. Our country's government is dependent upon checks and balances and to give either party a fillibuster proof majority is to grant a license for tyranny.
<font color ="ff0000">Calling Bullshit. Bush Sr. First dealt with Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac in 1992. You can't blame Democrats only buddy. I also heard from one of your own, that in 2003 McCain allegedly knew about the issue, but did nothing. hmmm. Let's not forget that the Iraq war and occupation just cost tax payers over 3 trillion dollars and is costing more that 240 billion a year to sustain.</font>
5- His socialist tax policies combined with oppressive federal regulations on private industry have been tried before during Jimmy Carter and those of us who are old enough still remember the gas lines and Misery Index. To listen to Obama, one would think that the solution to every problem we face can be found in big government. I fondly remember one of Reagan's great lines, "The scariest statement one could ever hear is: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
<font color ="ff0000">Yeah we should regulate corporations, like fanny mae, freddy mac, enron, AIG or the countless others that abuse our people and our system. AIG, these same motherfuckers that went on a spending spree with bailout money. How about all these companies that hire illegal aliens?? WHAT FUCKIN WORLD DO YOU LIVE IN! They'd rather hire a Mexican or Indian at a slave wage, than pay you or I a livable wage. </font>
There is a silver lining to Obama getting elected however. Finally the democrats would have control over every part of government and could no longer mindlessly blame every ill our country has upon George W. Bush. They will inevitably blow it causing them to lose power for another 8-16 years ala Jimmy Carter. Sometimes you need a Jimmy Carter to get a Ronald Reagan.
<font color ="ff0000">Wow that's the pot calling the kettle black. HAHA! You motherfuckers are trying to blame democrats of Bush's bullshit. What a fuckin hypocrite.</font>
DUHON you sound just like Obammy no answer but I agree with him but its me not him that said it.
Yeah, you have nothing substantial to say yourself. Typical koolaid drinker.
Oh my, where to start with you? First of all, there is no need for profanity or name calling, it only serves to debase your otherwise intellectual arguments. You are obviously a somewhat intelligent person so let's try to maintain an elevated discourse. I'll take your counter arguments one at a time.
-It is true that neither McCain or Obama or Biden have executive experience. So, we must compare them on the basis of their common Senate experience and McCain has Obama by 24 years. And oh yes, Gov. Palin not only has executive experience, she is the nations most popular Governer.
-Paleocon, defined as: Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleo or paleocon when the context is clear) is a term for an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian right wing movement in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity. <b>Paleoconservativism is not expressed as an ideology and its adherents do not necessarily subscribe to any one party line.</b> Paleoconservatives in the 21st century often focus on their points of disagreement with neoconservatives, especially on issues like immigration, affirmative action, U.S. funding of Israeli military actions, foreign wars, and welfare. They also criticize social democracy, which some refer to as the therapeutic managerial state, the welfare-warfare state or polite totalitarianism.
By definition a moderated form of conservatism adherent to no party line and therefor incompatable with your assertion of Fascism. I mean we're talking about John McCain here, democrats favorite Republican, a RINO if there ever was one (unlike Obama who has never bucked his party leadership). The same McCain that co-authored the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill, McCain-Lieberman Cap and trade bill and McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform. Hardly a Fascist more like traitor to his own party.
-A socio-capitalist society like Canada? Who wants to be Canada? Their economy is a joke. This is America, the country that in just 232 years, managed to become the greatest empire in the history of human civilization. How? Individual freedom and capitalism. When governments socialize, their economies become disfunctional and stagnant. Why do you think that China abandoned it's socialist economic model and adopted the British style after re-aquiring Hong Kong? And look at the results. The same reason Russia adopted a 13% flat tax. Look at any of the European socialist democracies, who had to band together and form the EU to sustain any semblance of economic relevance. Canada? Get a job from a company owned by the people? Give me three examples of robust, profitable companies owned by the state or else cede that ridiculous fallacious argument. Canada? lol
-McCain lied about Iraq and the troop surge? You know, if you are going to be a bomb thrower, back it up. What specifically did he lie about and source it, otherwise quit reading the Daily Kos and Democrat Underground propaganda BS. Do you honestly believe McCain doesn't know that Putin is the leader of Russia? I mean seriously? If we are going to sieze upon slips of the tongue then I guess we'll have to believe that Obama thinks there are 57 states in the union, I mean he said it, didn't he? Don't let your partisan hatred rob you of your intellectual honesty, it only serves to reduce your own credibility.
-Drumming up wars with people and stealing their oil? Do you really believe that excrement? If that is so then where in the hell is the oil???? If we stole Iraq's oil then why do they have a budget surplus and we are paying record high gas prices? And you have the nerve to call Bush a redneck moron when you believe these ridiculous conspiracy theories? We liberated 30 million people from a totalitarian regime and gave them their freedom and yes, THEIR OIL!
-The myth that employers would all of a sudden drop their employee health care plans is nothing more than un-substantiated rhetoric from the Obama campaign. It is nothing more than conjecture from left wing ideologs. As far as Colombia goes, they are our best friend in the region and the only bulwark against Venezuelan influence in the region. Obama opposes the CFTA because he is beholden to Labor Unions not because Colombia is some sort of nefarious government.
-Call whatever you want but at least know what you are talikng about when you do it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are directly attributable to Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. They were responsible for oversight as chairman of their respective committees and consistently blocked oversight. After seeing the contributions they received not to mention the sweetheart mortgage in Dodd's case, we can clearly see why. In addition, banks were forced to make these unsound loans to people who couldn't pay them back by order of congress in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act signed by Bill Clinton. Seriously, do some research. The Iraq war cost 3 TRILLION? Why dont you just make it 3 Zillion? Its hard to debate when you just make stuff up. The Congressional Budget Office has put the cost of the war at 600 Billion and that number is highly disputed.
-We are in agreement on AIG, those bastards should be in jail the same way the Bush justice department prosecuted the executives of Enron and Worldcom. As far as illegal aliens go, I agree that what is being done by BOTH parties on this issue is facilitating nothing less than modern day slavery. The republicans dont do anything about the border so corporations can continue to prey on the cheap labor and the democrats do nothing because they are trying to grow and pander to one of their constituent bases. I point out that every major sanctuary city in America is run by democrats.
-Base personal insults aside, the fact remains that the democrats have had control of the House and Senate (with a historically low 9% approval rating) for the last two years is inescapable. Blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush. How pathetic. Perhasps they could try leading and affecting positive change ala Newt Gingrich in 1994 with the Contract With America, where he was able push our agenda such as welfare reform and balanced budgets even under a liberal presidency. Some people whine and some people lead.
-It is true that neither McCain or Obama or Biden have executive experience. So, we must compare them on the basis of their common Senate experience and McCain has Obama by 24 years. And oh yes, Gov. Palin not only has executive experience, she is the nations most popular Governer.
-Paleocon, defined as: Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleo or paleocon when the context is clear) is a term for an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian right wing movement in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity. <b>Paleoconservativism is not expressed as an ideology and its adherents do not necessarily subscribe to any one party line.</b> Paleoconservatives in the 21st century often focus on their points of disagreement with neoconservatives, especially on issues like immigration, affirmative action, U.S. funding of Israeli military actions, foreign wars, and welfare. They also criticize social democracy, which some refer to as the therapeutic managerial state, the welfare-warfare state or polite totalitarianism.
By definition a moderated form of conservatism adherent to no party line and therefor incompatable with your assertion of Fascism. I mean we're talking about John McCain here, democrats favorite Republican, a RINO if there ever was one (unlike Obama who has never bucked his party leadership). The same McCain that co-authored the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill, McCain-Lieberman Cap and trade bill and McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform. Hardly a Fascist more like traitor to his own party.
-A socio-capitalist society like Canada? Who wants to be Canada? Their economy is a joke. This is America, the country that in just 232 years, managed to become the greatest empire in the history of human civilization. How? Individual freedom and capitalism. When governments socialize, their economies become disfunctional and stagnant. Why do you think that China abandoned it's socialist economic model and adopted the British style after re-aquiring Hong Kong? And look at the results. The same reason Russia adopted a 13% flat tax. Look at any of the European socialist democracies, who had to band together and form the EU to sustain any semblance of economic relevance. Canada? Get a job from a company owned by the people? Give me three examples of robust, profitable companies owned by the state or else cede that ridiculous fallacious argument. Canada? lol
-McCain lied about Iraq and the troop surge? You know, if you are going to be a bomb thrower, back it up. What specifically did he lie about and source it, otherwise quit reading the Daily Kos and Democrat Underground propaganda BS. Do you honestly believe McCain doesn't know that Putin is the leader of Russia? I mean seriously? If we are going to sieze upon slips of the tongue then I guess we'll have to believe that Obama thinks there are 57 states in the union, I mean he said it, didn't he? Don't let your partisan hatred rob you of your intellectual honesty, it only serves to reduce your own credibility.
-Drumming up wars with people and stealing their oil? Do you really believe that excrement? If that is so then where in the hell is the oil???? If we stole Iraq's oil then why do they have a budget surplus and we are paying record high gas prices? And you have the nerve to call Bush a redneck moron when you believe these ridiculous conspiracy theories? We liberated 30 million people from a totalitarian regime and gave them their freedom and yes, THEIR OIL!
-The myth that employers would all of a sudden drop their employee health care plans is nothing more than un-substantiated rhetoric from the Obama campaign. It is nothing more than conjecture from left wing ideologs. As far as Colombia goes, they are our best friend in the region and the only bulwark against Venezuelan influence in the region. Obama opposes the CFTA because he is beholden to Labor Unions not because Colombia is some sort of nefarious government.
-Call whatever you want but at least know what you are talikng about when you do it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are directly attributable to Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. They were responsible for oversight as chairman of their respective committees and consistently blocked oversight. After seeing the contributions they received not to mention the sweetheart mortgage in Dodd's case, we can clearly see why. In addition, banks were forced to make these unsound loans to people who couldn't pay them back by order of congress in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act signed by Bill Clinton. Seriously, do some research. The Iraq war cost 3 TRILLION? Why dont you just make it 3 Zillion? Its hard to debate when you just make stuff up. The Congressional Budget Office has put the cost of the war at 600 Billion and that number is highly disputed.
-We are in agreement on AIG, those bastards should be in jail the same way the Bush justice department prosecuted the executives of Enron and Worldcom. As far as illegal aliens go, I agree that what is being done by BOTH parties on this issue is facilitating nothing less than modern day slavery. The republicans dont do anything about the border so corporations can continue to prey on the cheap labor and the democrats do nothing because they are trying to grow and pander to one of their constituent bases. I point out that every major sanctuary city in America is run by democrats.
-Base personal insults aside, the fact remains that the democrats have had control of the House and Senate (with a historically low 9% approval rating) for the last two years is inescapable. Blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush. How pathetic. Perhasps they could try leading and affecting positive change ala Newt Gingrich in 1994 with the Contract With America, where he was able push our agenda such as welfare reform and balanced budgets even under a liberal presidency. Some people whine and some people lead.
Dream very well said but you didn't put any expletives in it for Don to understand any of it.
My compliments to a well written rebuttal.
My compliments to a well written rebuttal.
Thanks Stuffer. When you have the facts you dont need insults and expletives. I find it curious that liberals claim to be peace loving, tolerant and open minded free thinkers. I have found them to be hateful, angry, intolerant and close minded to all but there own partisan dogma. Insults and expletives are the refuge of the intellectually vacuous.
Oh my, where to start with you? First of all, there is no need for profanity or name calling, it only serves to debase your otherwise intellectual arguments. You are obviously a somewhat intelligent person so let's try to maintain an elevated discourse. I'll take your counter arguments one at a time.
<font color="#ff0000">Hmm where to begin with your... Let me say that was spoken like a true conservative. You Profanity has nothing to do with intelligence or the lack their of. They are words to describe emotion or to put emotional emphasis on what you are saying. An intelligent person would not make such claims without scientific data to back him/her. </font>
-It is true that neither McCain or Obama or Biden have executive experience. So, we must compare them on the basis of their common Senate experience and McCain has Obama by 24 years. And oh yes, Gov. Palin not only has executive experience, she is the nations most popular Governer.
<font color="#ff0000"> Wrong again. Obama has 10 years experience in senate. Palin has less that 2 years executive experience where she was found guilty of Ethics violations. McCain does have more experience in the senate, but also has Ethics violations. Besides, experience doesn't mean everything. For change to occur, we must have new ideas and not more of McCain's Bush-o-nomics. He's an oldtimer with oldtimer ideas. </font>
-Paleocon, defined as: Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleo or paleocon when the context is clear) is a term for an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian right wing movement in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity. Paleoconservativism is not expressed as an ideology and its adherents do not necessarily subscribe to any one party line. Paleoconservatives in the 21st century often focus on their points of disagreement with neoconservatives, especially on issues like immigration, affirmative action, U.S. funding of Israeli military actions, foreign wars, and welfare. They also criticize social democracy, which some refer to as the therapeutic managerial state, the welfare-warfare state or polite totalitarianism.
<font color="#ff0000">Sounds about right to me, when it comes to religious matters. Capitalistic Fascist theocracy are words to describe them. That blurb was obviously written by Paleocon. It doesn't involve family or community, so take out the " civil society" bit, They are into self-serving captialist bullshit. Bush (Paleocon) took our 4th Amendment and put it in the toilet with his Patriot Act and now the Church is pushing unconstitutional anti-gay marriage laws using the argument of 'sanctity' of marriage. Oh and his latest hypocrite move with pushing the 700 Billion Dollar NATIONALIZATION of Fanny and Freddy. Hey isn't that socialism. HAHAHA! Oh and one more thing. Get off my swinger site. It's against the ideals of your party. I wonder what Palin and McBush would say about your lifestyle choices. HAHA!</font>
By definition a moderated form of conservatism adherent to no party line and therefor incompatable with your assertion of Fascism. I mean we're talking about John McCain here, democrats favorite Republican, a RINO if there ever was one (unlike Obama who has never bucked his party leadership). The same McCain that co-authored the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill, McCain-Lieberman Cap and trade bill and McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform. Hardly a Fascist more like traitor to his own party.
<font color="#ff0000">Bullshit, McCain still pushes ridiculous religious dogma, war mongering and all the other fucktarded bullshit that is right.</font>
-A socio-capitalist society like Canada? Who wants to be Canada? Their economy is a joke. This is America, the country that in just 232 years, managed to become the greatest empire in the history of human civilization. How? Individual freedom and capitalism. When governments socialize, their economies become disfunctional and stagnant. Why do you think that China abandoned it's socialist economic model and adopted the British style after re-aquiring Hong Kong? And look at the results. The same reason Russia adopted a 13% flat tax. Look at any of the European socialist democracies, who had to band together and form the EU to sustain any semblance of economic relevance. Canada? Get a job from a company owned by the people? Give me three examples of robust, profitable companies owned by the state or else cede that ridiculous fallacious argument. Canada? lol
<font color="#ff0000"><b>OUR ECONOMY IS A JOKE!</b> One more time for the deaf, dumb and blind. I AM NOT SAYING HAVING A TOTALLY SOCIALIST SOCIETY IS THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ DUMMY READ! Canada is a socio-capitalist society. They heavily monitor and regulate their corporations. Which we should do. China's capitalism in the world market has nothing to do with their local market. It's still a socialist effort. Societal freedom has nothing to do with economics. Canada is free and contradicts your bullshit. </font>
-McCain lied about Iraq and the troop surge? You know, if you are going to be a bomb thrower, back it up. What specifically did he lie about and source it, otherwise quit reading the Daily Kos and Democrat Underground propaganda BS. Do you honestly believe McCain doesn't know that Putin is the leader of Russia? I mean seriously? If we are going to sieze upon slips of the tongue then I guess we'll have to believe that Obama thinks there are 57 states in the union, I mean he said it, didn't he? Don't let your partisan hatred rob you of your intellectual honesty, it only serves to reduce your own credibility.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/30/1086713.aspx
Still losing about 4 to 5 a day.
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/index.html
You forget also that I am a vet with a wife and son that is currently on active duty. My wife employs 4 soldiers that just returned. All of them with PTSD, 1 with IED scars and brain damage. I don't have to get my information from leftist blogs.
-Drumming up wars with people and stealing their oil? Do you really believe that excrement? If that is so then where in the hell is the oil???? If we stole Iraq's oil then why do they have a budget surplus and we are paying record high gas prices? And you have the nerve to call Bush a redneck moron when you believe these ridiculous conspiracy theories? We liberated 30 million people from a totalitarian regime and gave them their freedom and yes, THEIR OIL!
<font color="ff0000">Man you just don't get the big picture, do you?</font>
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-The myth that employers would all of a sudden drop their employee health care plans is nothing more than un-substantiated rhetoric from the Obama campaign. It is nothing more than conjecture from left wing ideologs. As far as Colombia goes, they are our best friend in the region and the only bulwark against Venezuelan influence in the region. Obama opposes the CFTA because he is beholden to Labor Unions not because Colombia is some sort of nefarious government.
<font color="#ff0000">Bullshit, it's common sense. Just ask the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. They even thing McCain proposal is a mistake. Sorry Charlie:</font>
http://www.chamberpost.com/2008/10/health-care---n.html
-Call whatever you want but at least know what you are talikng about when you do it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are directly attributable to Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. They were responsible for oversight as chairman of their respective committees and consistently blocked oversight. After seeing the contributions they received not to mention the sweetheart mortgage in Dodd's case, we can clearly see why. In addition, banks were forced to make these unsound loans to people who couldn't pay them back by order of congress in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act signed by Bill Clinton. Seriously, do some research. The Iraq war cost 3 TRILLION? Why dont you just make it 3 Zillion? Its hard to debate when you just make stuff up. The Congressional Budget Office has put the cost of the war at 600 Billion and that number is highly disputed.
<font color="#ff0000">Speculation. Show me some facts. You are quick to ask me for my facts. Show some facts. Fact1) Like Bush Sr. - Although not part of the CRA, in order to achieve similar aims the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government sponsored enterprises that purchase and securitize mortgages, to devote a percentage of their lending to support affordable housing.</font>
-We are in agreement on AIG, those bastards should be in jail the same way the Bush justice department prosecuted the executives of Enron and Worldcom. As far as illegal aliens go, I agree that what is being done by BOTH parties on this issue is facilitating nothing less than modern day slavery. The republicans dont do anything about the border so corporations can continue to prey on the cheap labor and the democrats do nothing because they are trying to grow and pander to one of their constituent bases. I point out that every major sanctuary city in America is run by democrats.
<font color="#ff0000">Oh you failed to mention Haliburton and Big Oil. Oh and please provide proof of that last sentence. </font>
-Base personal insults aside, the fact remains that the democrats have had control of the House and Senate (with a historically low 9% approval rating) for the last two years is inescapable. Blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush. How pathetic. Perhasps they could try leading and affecting positive change ala Newt Gingrich in 1994 with the Contract With America, where he was able push our agenda such as welfare reform and balanced budgets even under a liberal presidency. Some people whine and some people lead.
<font color="#ff0000">Yes and The Republicans controlled the Presidency, the senate and congress and we spent 3 trillion on a war that was lied about, under the guise of the war on terror, when Iraq had nothing to do with it. If McCain and Bush knew there was a problem back in 2002-2003 they did nothing about F&F. 8 years of the GOP and nothing but failures. OUr foreign relations are shot, our grip on Al Qaeada and the Taliban is weak, because we're spread thin between two wars, one of which is unjust. Shall I go on?</font>
Thanks Stuffer. When you have the facts you dont need insults and expletives. I find it curious that liberals claim to be peace loving, tolerant and open minded free thinkers. I have found them to be hateful, angry, intolerant and close minded to all but there own partisan dogma. Insults and expletives are the refuge of the intellectually vacuous.
<font color="#ff0000">Again your assertions that expletives are a reflection of intelligence are just a testament to your own self-righteous delusions of grandeur and your insecurity of your own argument. It's called drawing attention away from the fact that you have no base for your argument. Else we'd see links to all your proof. All we have from you is your words. Elitists often, as a defense mechanism make reference to their own restrainta as a proof of their credibility. It's like a religious person saying see look at me fast or donate this money... I AM MORE BELIEVABLE. HAHA!
The truth is... I tire of writing to koolaid drinkers all day trying to school them on government and ocassionally lose my patience. What you call "truth" or "facts" is your opinions and interpretation. So do us all a favor a spare us the "I'm intellectually superior to you, cuz I don't cuss" drivel. You're a legend in your own mind.
Bubye now.</font>
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Fluffer,
Your sychophantic remarks are laughable. GEE GEORGE WHAT'RE WE GONNA DO TODAY GEORGE?! HUH GEORGE? HUH GEORGE? WHAT'RE WE GONNA SAY GEORGE? HUH HUH?
-D-
<font color="#ff0000">Hmm where to begin with your... Let me say that was spoken like a true conservative. You Profanity has nothing to do with intelligence or the lack their of. They are words to describe emotion or to put emotional emphasis on what you are saying. An intelligent person would not make such claims without scientific data to back him/her. </font>
-It is true that neither McCain or Obama or Biden have executive experience. So, we must compare them on the basis of their common Senate experience and McCain has Obama by 24 years. And oh yes, Gov. Palin not only has executive experience, she is the nations most popular Governer.
<font color="#ff0000"> Wrong again. Obama has 10 years experience in senate. Palin has less that 2 years executive experience where she was found guilty of Ethics violations. McCain does have more experience in the senate, but also has Ethics violations. Besides, experience doesn't mean everything. For change to occur, we must have new ideas and not more of McCain's Bush-o-nomics. He's an oldtimer with oldtimer ideas. </font>
-Paleocon, defined as: Paleoconservatism (sometimes shortened to paleo or paleocon when the context is clear) is a term for an anti-communist and anti-authoritarian right wing movement in the United States that stresses tradition, civil society and classical federalism, along with familial, religious, regional, national and Western identity. Paleoconservativism is not expressed as an ideology and its adherents do not necessarily subscribe to any one party line. Paleoconservatives in the 21st century often focus on their points of disagreement with neoconservatives, especially on issues like immigration, affirmative action, U.S. funding of Israeli military actions, foreign wars, and welfare. They also criticize social democracy, which some refer to as the therapeutic managerial state, the welfare-warfare state or polite totalitarianism.
<font color="#ff0000">Sounds about right to me, when it comes to religious matters. Capitalistic Fascist theocracy are words to describe them. That blurb was obviously written by Paleocon. It doesn't involve family or community, so take out the " civil society" bit, They are into self-serving captialist bullshit. Bush (Paleocon) took our 4th Amendment and put it in the toilet with his Patriot Act and now the Church is pushing unconstitutional anti-gay marriage laws using the argument of 'sanctity' of marriage. Oh and his latest hypocrite move with pushing the 700 Billion Dollar NATIONALIZATION of Fanny and Freddy. Hey isn't that socialism. HAHAHA! Oh and one more thing. Get off my swinger site. It's against the ideals of your party. I wonder what Palin and McBush would say about your lifestyle choices. HAHA!</font>
By definition a moderated form of conservatism adherent to no party line and therefor incompatable with your assertion of Fascism. I mean we're talking about John McCain here, democrats favorite Republican, a RINO if there ever was one (unlike Obama who has never bucked his party leadership). The same McCain that co-authored the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill, McCain-Lieberman Cap and trade bill and McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform. Hardly a Fascist more like traitor to his own party.
<font color="#ff0000">Bullshit, McCain still pushes ridiculous religious dogma, war mongering and all the other fucktarded bullshit that is right.</font>
-A socio-capitalist society like Canada? Who wants to be Canada? Their economy is a joke. This is America, the country that in just 232 years, managed to become the greatest empire in the history of human civilization. How? Individual freedom and capitalism. When governments socialize, their economies become disfunctional and stagnant. Why do you think that China abandoned it's socialist economic model and adopted the British style after re-aquiring Hong Kong? And look at the results. The same reason Russia adopted a 13% flat tax. Look at any of the European socialist democracies, who had to band together and form the EU to sustain any semblance of economic relevance. Canada? Get a job from a company owned by the people? Give me three examples of robust, profitable companies owned by the state or else cede that ridiculous fallacious argument. Canada? lol
<font color="#ff0000"><b>OUR ECONOMY IS A JOKE!</b> One more time for the deaf, dumb and blind. I AM NOT SAYING HAVING A TOTALLY SOCIALIST SOCIETY IS THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ DUMMY READ! Canada is a socio-capitalist society. They heavily monitor and regulate their corporations. Which we should do. China's capitalism in the world market has nothing to do with their local market. It's still a socialist effort. Societal freedom has nothing to do with economics. Canada is free and contradicts your bullshit. </font>
-McCain lied about Iraq and the troop surge? You know, if you are going to be a bomb thrower, back it up. What specifically did he lie about and source it, otherwise quit reading the Daily Kos and Democrat Underground propaganda BS. Do you honestly believe McCain doesn't know that Putin is the leader of Russia? I mean seriously? If we are going to sieze upon slips of the tongue then I guess we'll have to believe that Obama thinks there are 57 states in the union, I mean he said it, didn't he? Don't let your partisan hatred rob you of your intellectual honesty, it only serves to reduce your own credibility.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/30/1086713.aspx
Still losing about 4 to 5 a day.
http://www.militarycity.com/valor/index.html
You forget also that I am a vet with a wife and son that is currently on active duty. My wife employs 4 soldiers that just returned. All of them with PTSD, 1 with IED scars and brain damage. I don't have to get my information from leftist blogs.
-Drumming up wars with people and stealing their oil? Do you really believe that excrement? If that is so then where in the hell is the oil???? If we stole Iraq's oil then why do they have a budget surplus and we are paying record high gas prices? And you have the nerve to call Bush a redneck moron when you believe these ridiculous conspiracy theories? We liberated 30 million people from a totalitarian regime and gave them their freedom and yes, THEIR OIL!
<font color="ff0000">Man you just don't get the big picture, do you?</font>
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-The myth that employers would all of a sudden drop their employee health care plans is nothing more than un-substantiated rhetoric from the Obama campaign. It is nothing more than conjecture from left wing ideologs. As far as Colombia goes, they are our best friend in the region and the only bulwark against Venezuelan influence in the region. Obama opposes the CFTA because he is beholden to Labor Unions not because Colombia is some sort of nefarious government.
<font color="#ff0000">Bullshit, it's common sense. Just ask the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. They even thing McCain proposal is a mistake. Sorry Charlie:</font>
http://www.chamberpost.com/2008/10/health-care---n.html
-Call whatever you want but at least know what you are talikng about when you do it. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are directly attributable to Chris Dodd and Barney Frank. They were responsible for oversight as chairman of their respective committees and consistently blocked oversight. After seeing the contributions they received not to mention the sweetheart mortgage in Dodd's case, we can clearly see why. In addition, banks were forced to make these unsound loans to people who couldn't pay them back by order of congress in the form of the Community Reinvestment Act signed by Bill Clinton. Seriously, do some research. The Iraq war cost 3 TRILLION? Why dont you just make it 3 Zillion? Its hard to debate when you just make stuff up. The Congressional Budget Office has put the cost of the war at 600 Billion and that number is highly disputed.
<font color="#ff0000">Speculation. Show me some facts. You are quick to ask me for my facts. Show some facts. Fact1) Like Bush Sr. - Although not part of the CRA, in order to achieve similar aims the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government sponsored enterprises that purchase and securitize mortgages, to devote a percentage of their lending to support affordable housing.</font>
-We are in agreement on AIG, those bastards should be in jail the same way the Bush justice department prosecuted the executives of Enron and Worldcom. As far as illegal aliens go, I agree that what is being done by BOTH parties on this issue is facilitating nothing less than modern day slavery. The republicans dont do anything about the border so corporations can continue to prey on the cheap labor and the democrats do nothing because they are trying to grow and pander to one of their constituent bases. I point out that every major sanctuary city in America is run by democrats.
<font color="#ff0000">Oh you failed to mention Haliburton and Big Oil. Oh and please provide proof of that last sentence. </font>
-Base personal insults aside, the fact remains that the democrats have had control of the House and Senate (with a historically low 9% approval rating) for the last two years is inescapable. Blame Bush, blame Bush, blame Bush. How pathetic. Perhasps they could try leading and affecting positive change ala Newt Gingrich in 1994 with the Contract With America, where he was able push our agenda such as welfare reform and balanced budgets even under a liberal presidency. Some people whine and some people lead.
<font color="#ff0000">Yes and The Republicans controlled the Presidency, the senate and congress and we spent 3 trillion on a war that was lied about, under the guise of the war on terror, when Iraq had nothing to do with it. If McCain and Bush knew there was a problem back in 2002-2003 they did nothing about F&F. 8 years of the GOP and nothing but failures. OUr foreign relations are shot, our grip on Al Qaeada and the Taliban is weak, because we're spread thin between two wars, one of which is unjust. Shall I go on?</font>
Thanks Stuffer. When you have the facts you dont need insults and expletives. I find it curious that liberals claim to be peace loving, tolerant and open minded free thinkers. I have found them to be hateful, angry, intolerant and close minded to all but there own partisan dogma. Insults and expletives are the refuge of the intellectually vacuous.
<font color="#ff0000">Again your assertions that expletives are a reflection of intelligence are just a testament to your own self-righteous delusions of grandeur and your insecurity of your own argument. It's called drawing attention away from the fact that you have no base for your argument. Else we'd see links to all your proof. All we have from you is your words. Elitists often, as a defense mechanism make reference to their own restrainta as a proof of their credibility. It's like a religious person saying see look at me fast or donate this money... I AM MORE BELIEVABLE. HAHA!
The truth is... I tire of writing to koolaid drinkers all day trying to school them on government and ocassionally lose my patience. What you call "truth" or "facts" is your opinions and interpretation. So do us all a favor a spare us the "I'm intellectually superior to you, cuz I don't cuss" drivel. You're a legend in your own mind.
Bubye now.</font>
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Fluffer,
Your sychophantic remarks are laughable. GEE GEORGE WHAT'RE WE GONNA DO TODAY GEORGE?! HUH GEORGE? HUH GEORGE? WHAT'RE WE GONNA SAY GEORGE? HUH HUH?
-D-
<i>Hmm where to begin with your... Let me say that was spoken like a true conservative. You Profanity has nothing to do with intelligence or the lack their of. They are words to describe emotion or to put emotional emphasis on what you are saying. An intelligent person would not make such claims without scientific data to back him/her.</i>
-Your profanity is indicative of your inability to effectively utilize the acceptable lexicon of the english language to communicate. Perhaps you should try reading something other than the huffingtonpost. There are plenty of words one could use to describe an emotion, they are called adjectives. My data is your deranged profanities, you sir are my case study.
<i>Wrong again. Obama has 10 years experience in senate. Palin has less that 2 years executive experience where she was found guilty of Ethics violations. McCain does have more experience in the senate, but also has Ethics violations. Besides, experience doesn't mean everything. For change to occur, we must have new ideas and not more of McCain's Bush-o-nomics. He's an oldtimer with oldtimer ideas.</i>
-10 years in the Senate? He was elected in 2004 to the US Senate, giving McCain 24 years seniority over the manchild. Illinois State Senate is not applicable as while it is experience it is not relevant to the comparison of US Senate experience. New ideas? Obama is peddling the same garbage that Carter spewed.
<i>Sounds about right to me, when it comes to religious matters. Capitalistic Fascist theocracy are words to describe them. That blurb was obviously written by Paleocon. It doesn't involve family or community, so take out the " civil society" bit, They are into self-serving captialist bullshit. Bush (Paleocon) took our 4th Amendment and put it in the toilet with his Patriot Act and now the Church is pushing unconstitutional anti-gay marriage laws using the argument of 'sanctity' of marriage. Oh and his latest hypocrite move with pushing the 700 Billion Dollar NATIONALIZATION of Fanny and Freddy. Hey isn't that socialism. HAHAHA! Oh and one more thing. Get off my swinger site. It's against the ideals of your party. I wonder what Palin and McBush would say about your lifestyle choices. HAHA!</i>
-I have to be honest with you here and tell you that I dont give a thought to what the church is pushing, as they are an irrelevant, anachronistic organization peddling children's tales as doctrine in naked pursuit of tax free monetary self enrichment. The 700 billion dollar bailout is absolutely socialism and further proof that Bush is and never was a coservative, fiscal or otherwise. He grew the siae of government exponentially and made Clinton look like a miserly watchdog. You don't know my politics and making assumptions further illustrates your undisciplined brashness. Get off your swinger site? Am I to take that as a form of intimidation? Perhaps you should read the forum's rules. I am not even supporting McCain as I believe him to be an enemy of conservatism, as evidenced by his long history of attcking conservatives. And by the way conservatives believe in personal liberty and individual freedom and therefor would not seek to control someone's personal life.
<i>Bullshit, McCain still pushes ridiculous religious dogma, war mongering and all the other fucktarded bullshit that is right.</i>
-McCain has always been reviled by the religious right. He has never espoused religious dogma and in fact does not even attend church. And who cares anyway about religion anyway? You want my view of religion? Here it is: <b>Religion is nothing more than and institution created by man for the sole purpose of controlling other men.</b>
<i>OUR ECONOMY IS A JOKE! One more time for the deaf, dumb and blind. I AM NOT SAYING HAVING A TOTALLY SOCIALIST SOCIETY IS THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ DUMMY READ! Canada is a socio-capitalist society. They heavily monitor and regulate their corporations. Which we should do. China's capitalism in the world market has nothing to do with their local market. It's still a socialist effort. Societal freedom has nothing to do with economics. Canada is free and contradicts your bullshit.</i>
-I only respond to coherent arguments, not juvenile insults reminiscent of the rantings of an immature mind lacking the vocabulary to adequately express itself. Seriously though, Canada? roflmao
<i>You forget also that I am a vet with a wife and son that is currently on active duty. My wife employs 4 soldiers that just returned. All of them with PTSD, 1 with IED scars and brain damage. I don't have to get my information from leftist blogs.</i>
-I honor and respect your service and that of your family.
<i>Bullshit, it's common sense. Just ask the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. They even thing McCain proposal is a mistake. Sorry Charlie:</i>
-Not nearly as big a mistake as blending the DMV with kidney dialysis. You want socialized medicine? You already have it as a veteran, the VA. What a hellhole that place is huh?
<i>Like Bush Sr. - Although not part of the CRA, in order to achieve similar aims the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government sponsored enterprises that purchase and securitize mortgages, to devote a percentage of their lending to support affordable housing.</i>
-Always a republican's fault huh? It is sad that you don't even possess a drop of intellectual honesty to allow you to see how BOTHparties sold us, the taxpayer, down the river to bail out there corporate donors and advisors like Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson
<i>Oh you failed to mention Haliburton and Big Oil. Oh and please provide proof of that last sentence.</i>
Haliburton and "big" oil? What the hell are you talking about? Halliburton received no bid contracts because they are the only compay that does what they do. Did they rip us off, like everything else associated with government contracts, hell yes! Big oil? What exactly are youreferring to? Proof that every major sanctuary city is a liberal run cesspool? The only exception would be Bloomberg who is now an independent because it was politically expedient for him to do so. LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, Miami, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc. etc.
<i>Yes and The Republicans controlled the Presidency, the senate and congress and we spent 3 trillion on a war that was lied about, under the guise of the war on terror, when Iraq had nothing to do with it. If McCain and Bush knew there was a problem back in 2002-2003 they did nothing about F&F. 8 years of the GOP and nothing but failures. OUr foreign relations are shot, our grip on Al Qaeada and the Taliban is weak, because we're spread thin between two wars, one of which is unjust. Shall I go on?</i>
-Republicans held control over all branches for 6 years, not 8 (2000-2006). The Iraq war was based on faulty intelligence, the same intelligence possessed by the Brits, Russians, French and Israelis. Our CIA was wrong, but so was everyone elses. Nothing but failures? Is it a failure that we haven't been attacked on our own soil since 9-11? Or are you to busy lamenting the treatment of terrorists in Guantanamo?
<i>Again your assertions that expletives are a reflection of intelligence are just a testament to your own self-righteous delusions of grandeur. Elitists often, as a defense mechanism make reference to their own emotional restraint as a proof of their credibility. I tire of writing to koolaid drinkers all day trying to school them on government and ocassionally lose my patience. What you call "truth" or "facts" is your opinions and interpretation. So do us all a favor a spare us the "I'm intellectually superior to you, cuz I don't cuss" drivel. You're a legend in your own mind.</i>
-I am a kool-aid drinker? I have criticized Bush and McCain extensively in my remarks unlike you who can seem to find not a bit of fault, blame or responsibility in any democrat ever. I have agreed with you where we have common ground such as prosecuting Wall Street thieves. You sit there and whine about having to "educate" me on government, positioning yourself as the all-knowing elitist lecturing the unwashed masses from on high. I have never claimed to be your intellectual superior as you contend but perhaps that staement could be attributable to a Freudian slip roooted in your own insecurities.
I dont swear in a debate because it is bad form and indicative of low character and an undisciplined mind. You only lower yourself by attempting to insult me, something that only serves to reveal the baseness of your arguments and the gutter from which they emerged. You remind me of a inner city thug who rants in ebonics with his pants around his rear and then wonders why he isn't taken seriously. You will always be treated in accordance with how you present yourself. Dont blame me and call me an elitist because of your social failings and inability to rise out of the gutter in which you obviously reside.
-Your profanity is indicative of your inability to effectively utilize the acceptable lexicon of the english language to communicate. Perhaps you should try reading something other than the huffingtonpost. There are plenty of words one could use to describe an emotion, they are called adjectives. My data is your deranged profanities, you sir are my case study.
<i>Wrong again. Obama has 10 years experience in senate. Palin has less that 2 years executive experience where she was found guilty of Ethics violations. McCain does have more experience in the senate, but also has Ethics violations. Besides, experience doesn't mean everything. For change to occur, we must have new ideas and not more of McCain's Bush-o-nomics. He's an oldtimer with oldtimer ideas.</i>
-10 years in the Senate? He was elected in 2004 to the US Senate, giving McCain 24 years seniority over the manchild. Illinois State Senate is not applicable as while it is experience it is not relevant to the comparison of US Senate experience. New ideas? Obama is peddling the same garbage that Carter spewed.
<i>Sounds about right to me, when it comes to religious matters. Capitalistic Fascist theocracy are words to describe them. That blurb was obviously written by Paleocon. It doesn't involve family or community, so take out the " civil society" bit, They are into self-serving captialist bullshit. Bush (Paleocon) took our 4th Amendment and put it in the toilet with his Patriot Act and now the Church is pushing unconstitutional anti-gay marriage laws using the argument of 'sanctity' of marriage. Oh and his latest hypocrite move with pushing the 700 Billion Dollar NATIONALIZATION of Fanny and Freddy. Hey isn't that socialism. HAHAHA! Oh and one more thing. Get off my swinger site. It's against the ideals of your party. I wonder what Palin and McBush would say about your lifestyle choices. HAHA!</i>
-I have to be honest with you here and tell you that I dont give a thought to what the church is pushing, as they are an irrelevant, anachronistic organization peddling children's tales as doctrine in naked pursuit of tax free monetary self enrichment. The 700 billion dollar bailout is absolutely socialism and further proof that Bush is and never was a coservative, fiscal or otherwise. He grew the siae of government exponentially and made Clinton look like a miserly watchdog. You don't know my politics and making assumptions further illustrates your undisciplined brashness. Get off your swinger site? Am I to take that as a form of intimidation? Perhaps you should read the forum's rules. I am not even supporting McCain as I believe him to be an enemy of conservatism, as evidenced by his long history of attcking conservatives. And by the way conservatives believe in personal liberty and individual freedom and therefor would not seek to control someone's personal life.
<i>Bullshit, McCain still pushes ridiculous religious dogma, war mongering and all the other fucktarded bullshit that is right.</i>
-McCain has always been reviled by the religious right. He has never espoused religious dogma and in fact does not even attend church. And who cares anyway about religion anyway? You want my view of religion? Here it is: <b>Religion is nothing more than and institution created by man for the sole purpose of controlling other men.</b>
<i>OUR ECONOMY IS A JOKE! One more time for the deaf, dumb and blind. I AM NOT SAYING HAVING A TOTALLY SOCIALIST SOCIETY IS THE ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! READ DUMMY READ! Canada is a socio-capitalist society. They heavily monitor and regulate their corporations. Which we should do. China's capitalism in the world market has nothing to do with their local market. It's still a socialist effort. Societal freedom has nothing to do with economics. Canada is free and contradicts your bullshit.</i>
-I only respond to coherent arguments, not juvenile insults reminiscent of the rantings of an immature mind lacking the vocabulary to adequately express itself. Seriously though, Canada? roflmao
<i>You forget also that I am a vet with a wife and son that is currently on active duty. My wife employs 4 soldiers that just returned. All of them with PTSD, 1 with IED scars and brain damage. I don't have to get my information from leftist blogs.</i>
-I honor and respect your service and that of your family.
<i>Bullshit, it's common sense. Just ask the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. They even thing McCain proposal is a mistake. Sorry Charlie:</i>
-Not nearly as big a mistake as blending the DMV with kidney dialysis. You want socialized medicine? You already have it as a veteran, the VA. What a hellhole that place is huh?
<i>Like Bush Sr. - Although not part of the CRA, in order to achieve similar aims the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 required Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two government sponsored enterprises that purchase and securitize mortgages, to devote a percentage of their lending to support affordable housing.</i>
-Always a republican's fault huh? It is sad that you don't even possess a drop of intellectual honesty to allow you to see how BOTHparties sold us, the taxpayer, down the river to bail out there corporate donors and advisors like Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson
<i>Oh you failed to mention Haliburton and Big Oil. Oh and please provide proof of that last sentence.</i>
Haliburton and "big" oil? What the hell are you talking about? Halliburton received no bid contracts because they are the only compay that does what they do. Did they rip us off, like everything else associated with government contracts, hell yes! Big oil? What exactly are youreferring to? Proof that every major sanctuary city is a liberal run cesspool? The only exception would be Bloomberg who is now an independent because it was politically expedient for him to do so. LA, San Fran, Chicago, Seattle, Portland, Miami, Philadelphia, Detroit, etc. etc.
<i>Yes and The Republicans controlled the Presidency, the senate and congress and we spent 3 trillion on a war that was lied about, under the guise of the war on terror, when Iraq had nothing to do with it. If McCain and Bush knew there was a problem back in 2002-2003 they did nothing about F&F. 8 years of the GOP and nothing but failures. OUr foreign relations are shot, our grip on Al Qaeada and the Taliban is weak, because we're spread thin between two wars, one of which is unjust. Shall I go on?</i>
-Republicans held control over all branches for 6 years, not 8 (2000-2006). The Iraq war was based on faulty intelligence, the same intelligence possessed by the Brits, Russians, French and Israelis. Our CIA was wrong, but so was everyone elses. Nothing but failures? Is it a failure that we haven't been attacked on our own soil since 9-11? Or are you to busy lamenting the treatment of terrorists in Guantanamo?
<i>Again your assertions that expletives are a reflection of intelligence are just a testament to your own self-righteous delusions of grandeur. Elitists often, as a defense mechanism make reference to their own emotional restraint as a proof of their credibility. I tire of writing to koolaid drinkers all day trying to school them on government and ocassionally lose my patience. What you call "truth" or "facts" is your opinions and interpretation. So do us all a favor a spare us the "I'm intellectually superior to you, cuz I don't cuss" drivel. You're a legend in your own mind.</i>
-I am a kool-aid drinker? I have criticized Bush and McCain extensively in my remarks unlike you who can seem to find not a bit of fault, blame or responsibility in any democrat ever. I have agreed with you where we have common ground such as prosecuting Wall Street thieves. You sit there and whine about having to "educate" me on government, positioning yourself as the all-knowing elitist lecturing the unwashed masses from on high. I have never claimed to be your intellectual superior as you contend but perhaps that staement could be attributable to a Freudian slip roooted in your own insecurities.
I dont swear in a debate because it is bad form and indicative of low character and an undisciplined mind. You only lower yourself by attempting to insult me, something that only serves to reveal the baseness of your arguments and the gutter from which they emerged. You remind me of a inner city thug who rants in ebonics with his pants around his rear and then wonders why he isn't taken seriously. You will always be treated in accordance with how you present yourself. Dont blame me and call me an elitist because of your social failings and inability to rise out of the gutter in which you obviously reside.
just for the fun of it here are a few more reasons not to trust obama
1)A bill to provide funding for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program. ...Got to spread the wealth and help those less fortunate, As President he will do evrything in his power to achieve this but as a Senator He hasn't got the time to vote on it.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00187
2)to prohibit authorized committees and leadership PACs from employing the spouse or immediate family members of any candidate or Federal office holder connected to the committee. Voted against this one,,,HMMM ACORN coming to mind anyone?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00004
3) To strengthen earmark reform. HMM Voted against this one, yet he is against earmarks.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00005
more where that comes form
1)A bill to provide funding for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program. ...Got to spread the wealth and help those less fortunate, As President he will do evrything in his power to achieve this but as a Senator He hasn't got the time to vote on it.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00187
2)to prohibit authorized committees and leadership PACs from employing the spouse or immediate family members of any candidate or Federal office holder connected to the committee. Voted against this one,,,HMMM ACORN coming to mind anyone?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00004
3) To strengthen earmark reform. HMM Voted against this one, yet he is against earmarks.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00005
more where that comes form
Topfreeinga those are some great examples of issues regarding Obama's duplicity that I was not up to speed on. Thanks for the info!
What I find funny is the latest responses from you were back pedaling nonsense. You're quick to blame clinton and I showed you Bush Sr. was the one who started it.
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just for the fun of it here are a few more reasons not to trust obama
1)A bill to provide funding for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program. ...Got to spread the wealth and help those less fortunate, As President he will do evrything in his power to achieve this but as a Senator He hasn't got the time to vote on it.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00187
<font color="#ff0000">THEY ARE BOTH CAMPAIGNING YOU FUCKTARD! MCCain didn't vote either.
Obama (D-IL), Not
McCain (R-AZ), Not
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2)to prohibit authorized committees and leadership PACs from employing the spouse or immediate family members of any candidate or Federal office holder connected to the committee. Voted against this one,,,HMMM ACORN coming to mind anyone?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00004
<font color="#ff0000">
Obama (D-IL), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay</font>
3) To strengthen earmark reform. HMM Voted against this one, yet he is against earmarks.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00005
<font color="#ff0000">
Obama (D-IL), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay</font>
more where that comes form
<font color="#ff0000">What more hypocrisy?</font>
YAWN, you people tired me with your idiocy. Thanks for proving that Obama crosses party lines.
1)A bill to provide funding for the Low-Income Home Energy Assistance Program. ...Got to spread the wealth and help those less fortunate, As President he will do evrything in his power to achieve this but as a Senator He hasn't got the time to vote on it.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00187
<font color="#ff0000">THEY ARE BOTH CAMPAIGNING YOU FUCKTARD! MCCain didn't vote either.
Obama (D-IL), Not
McCain (R-AZ), Not
</font>
2)to prohibit authorized committees and leadership PACs from employing the spouse or immediate family members of any candidate or Federal office holder connected to the committee. Voted against this one,,,HMMM ACORN coming to mind anyone?
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00004
<font color="#ff0000">
Obama (D-IL), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay</font>
3) To strengthen earmark reform. HMM Voted against this one, yet he is against earmarks.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=1&vote=00005
<font color="#ff0000">
Obama (D-IL), Nay
McCain (R-AZ), Nay</font>
more where that comes form
<font color="#ff0000">What more hypocrisy?</font>
YAWN, you people tired me with your idiocy. Thanks for proving that Obama crosses party lines.
<i>What I find funny is the latest responses from you were back pedaling nonsense. You're quick to blame clinton and I showed you Bush Sr. was the one who started it.</i>
More of your stunning intellectual honesty and another shining example of deep thinking. Let me surmise your position, Bush is responsible and the democrats are angellic in their innocence and purity. What a simple partisan you are. I have not back pedaled at all, perhaps it was over your head as it wasn't in gutter speak.
More of your stunning intellectual honesty and another shining example of deep thinking. Let me surmise your position, Bush is responsible and the democrats are angellic in their innocence and purity. What a simple partisan you are. I have not back pedaled at all, perhaps it was over your head as it wasn't in gutter speak.
No perhaps you keep trying to pass your bullshit off as fact and no one, including me, is buying it. I've already stated that everyone is partially to blame for the F&F bullshit. However, I do not buy your Bush apologist theories. Bush was the one selling the Iraq war too us, despite what the rest of the world wanted, including our allies. The war was about oil. I've already shown you proof with the legislation they were trying to pass to privatize Iraq's Nationalized Oil. I've shown how Bush the oil man's reign of terror and the U.S. department of energy's chart showing gas prices climb coincide. Prices of gas began to rise in 2001 at a unprecidented rate. The troop surge that allegedly worked didn't do shit. There are still shit the same average of American deaths in Iraq everyday. What's your answer?? To blow them all up and let your god sort them out. HAHA!
Having been a loan officer for several years, mortgages, until getting laid off 2001 (company merger) I can safely say the "conforming loan" requirements were very stringent on getting a loan with a good rate. A conforming loan is something that Fanny and Freddie would deal in. If you didn't meet the requirements and wanted to purchase or refinance a home you had to deal with "sub prime" lenders and the rates were not as good but they had guidelines more favorable to having a blemish (and then some).
In my opinion tax dollars should not be used to "buy" the defaulting loans. The money should be used to keep jobs from getting shipped out of the country.
According to the Virginia-based American Bankruptcy Institute or ABI, the top five reasons people file for bankruptcy are ease of obtaining personal credit and credit cards, loss of a job, financial mismanagement, medical problems and divorce.
Case in point:
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Consumer debt is consistent with bankruptcy filings
Research by the Federal Reserve indicates that household debt is at a record high relative to disposable income. Some analysts are concerned that this unprecedented level of debt might pose a risk to the financial health of American households. A high level of indebtedness among households could lead to increased household delinquencies and bankruptcies, which could threaten the health of lenders if loan losses are greater than anticipated.
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http://www.abiworld.org/Content/NavigationMenu/NewsRoom/BankruptcyStatistics/Bankruptcy_Filings_1.htm
So lets fix the medical insurance system, keep and create jobs for tax payers and teach everyone to live within their means.
This will take 3 of the 5 top BK reasons off the list (Where there is BK there is foreclosure... people just can't pay what they owe)
Does it really surprise anyone that with the heavy right wing influence in this state we are also the 4th highest BK rate in the nation?
I'm not down for another 4 years of republican leadership.
In my opinion tax dollars should not be used to "buy" the defaulting loans. The money should be used to keep jobs from getting shipped out of the country.
According to the Virginia-based American Bankruptcy Institute or ABI, the top five reasons people file for bankruptcy are ease of obtaining personal credit and credit cards, loss of a job, financial mismanagement, medical problems and divorce.
Case in point:
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Consumer debt is consistent with bankruptcy filings
Research by the Federal Reserve indicates that household debt is at a record high relative to disposable income. Some analysts are concerned that this unprecedented level of debt might pose a risk to the financial health of American households. A high level of indebtedness among households could lead to increased household delinquencies and bankruptcies, which could threaten the health of lenders if loan losses are greater than anticipated.
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Information quoted from:
http://www.abiworld.org/Content/NavigationMenu/NewsRoom/BankruptcyStatistics/Bankruptcy_Filings_1.htm
So lets fix the medical insurance system, keep and create jobs for tax payers and teach everyone to live within their means.
This will take 3 of the 5 top BK reasons off the list (Where there is BK there is foreclosure... people just can't pay what they owe)
Does it really surprise anyone that with the heavy right wing influence in this state we are also the 4th highest BK rate in the nation?
I'm not down for another 4 years of republican leadership.
HEAR HEAR. I'm a loud-mouthed attention whore opinionated prick, but can I eat cherrios out of that navel? HAHA! JK. Seriously though. I totally agree with that post. GOP had there time and they fucked up ... alot.
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elysium - "Thanks Stuffer. When you have the facts you dont need insults and expletives. I find it curious that liberals claim to be peace loving, tolerant and open minded free thinkers. I have found them to be hateful, angry, intolerant and close minded to all but there own partisan dogma. Insults and expletives are the refuge of the intellectually vacuous."
I will normally not point out basic spelling errors because, after all, shit happens. But given that you are the most pompous, self-righteous 'person' I've read in a while, I figure it would be helpful to point out that you meant "their" own, not "there" own? Damn spell-checker never does catch that one does it? I imagine your holier-than-thou persona will appreciate that error being pointed out so that you may resume your error-free, above-the-maddening crowd ways!
I come close enough to liberal to resent your broad brush characterization. Let's take them one at a time:
1. hateful - Nope, sorry. I am almost devoid of hate. It is a very negative, self-consuming emotion which I try to keep out of my vocabulary as much as possible.
2. angry - Oh-fer-two. Anger is a close cousin to hatred (though certainly necessary and useful at times). Now, if you had said frustrated, we would be talking a different story.
3. intolerant - This is the one that really gripes my ass (oops, sorry - can I say ass without offending your sensibilities? without you accusing me of being vacuous? substitute "butt" if "ass" is too base for your liking). I am beyond tolerant and well into the compassionate range (for example, I really feel sorry for your unbelievably tight sphincter). I will admit I do have a hard time tolerating people who look down their nose at others - and you seem to be wearing a ski-slope on the front of your puss!
4. close minded to all but there (sic) own partisan dogma - Is this some sort of trick, redundant statement? The alternative would be what - open-minded to all but....? I listen, read and learn. I consider the source. I have a belief system and hold true to my core beliefs. Beyond that, I realize the importance of flexibility and good communication. I might point out that your impression of liberals strikes me as rather close minded.
As to insults and expletives, I prefer to hold that to a minimum as well. I think your statement, however, was excessive. But then, the right is accustomed to excess isn't it?
U right reel good - two bad u live in such rarefied air! Your arrogance diminishes you and makes you seem like a very small person. Sorry (that would be compassion )!
I will normally not point out basic spelling errors because, after all, shit happens. But given that you are the most pompous, self-righteous 'person' I've read in a while, I figure it would be helpful to point out that you meant "their" own, not "there" own? Damn spell-checker never does catch that one does it? I imagine your holier-than-thou persona will appreciate that error being pointed out so that you may resume your error-free, above-the-maddening crowd ways!
I come close enough to liberal to resent your broad brush characterization. Let's take them one at a time:
1. hateful - Nope, sorry. I am almost devoid of hate. It is a very negative, self-consuming emotion which I try to keep out of my vocabulary as much as possible.
2. angry - Oh-fer-two. Anger is a close cousin to hatred (though certainly necessary and useful at times). Now, if you had said frustrated, we would be talking a different story.
3. intolerant - This is the one that really gripes my ass (oops, sorry - can I say ass without offending your sensibilities? without you accusing me of being vacuous? substitute "butt" if "ass" is too base for your liking). I am beyond tolerant and well into the compassionate range (for example, I really feel sorry for your unbelievably tight sphincter). I will admit I do have a hard time tolerating people who look down their nose at others - and you seem to be wearing a ski-slope on the front of your puss!
4. close minded to all but there (sic) own partisan dogma - Is this some sort of trick, redundant statement? The alternative would be what - open-minded to all but....? I listen, read and learn. I consider the source. I have a belief system and hold true to my core beliefs. Beyond that, I realize the importance of flexibility and good communication. I might point out that your impression of liberals strikes me as rather close minded.
As to insults and expletives, I prefer to hold that to a minimum as well. I think your statement, however, was excessive. But then, the right is accustomed to excess isn't it?
U right reel good - two bad u live in such rarefied air! Your arrogance diminishes you and makes you seem like a very small person. Sorry (that would be compassion
)!ROSE...."HEAR HEAR. I'm a loud-mouthed attention whore opinionated prick, but can I eat cherrios out of that navel? HAHA! JK. Seriously though. I totally agree with that post. GOP had there time and they fucked up ... alot."
As I am sure a majority of the repubs in thjis forum will agree to I am going to have to agree that yes the GOP has fucked up, yet so has the Democratic Congress, but that isn't really the issue here. The issue here is What are we the people going to do about it. Personally if you ask me and many other Republicans McCain is NOT our first choice, but somehow he got the early lead and scared everyone off. Just as Obama was not the first choice of many Democrats, yet the media liked him, so they gave him all the hype and left the Hidebeast out to dry. I say we all start our own campaign to have them both removed from the ticket and have everyone who wants to exercise their right to vote, do so the old fashioned way. Write in your candidate of choice from any person eligible for the position. The way I see it is that no one here is really planning on Voting FOR John McCain or Barak Obama. Seems like everyone here is voting AGAINST John McCain or Barak Obama.
As I am sure a majority of the repubs in thjis forum will agree to I am going to have to agree that yes the GOP has fucked up, yet so has the Democratic Congress, but that isn't really the issue here. The issue here is What are we the people going to do about it. Personally if you ask me and many other Republicans McCain is NOT our first choice, but somehow he got the early lead and scared everyone off. Just as Obama was not the first choice of many Democrats, yet the media liked him, so they gave him all the hype and left the Hidebeast out to dry. I say we all start our own campaign to have them both removed from the ticket and have everyone who wants to exercise their right to vote, do so the old fashioned way. Write in your candidate of choice from any person eligible for the position. The way I see it is that no one here is really planning on Voting FOR John McCain or Barak Obama. Seems like everyone here is voting AGAINST John McCain or Barak Obama.
"THEY ARE BOTH CAMPAIGNING YOU FUCKTARD! MCCain didn't vote either.
Obama (D-IL), Not
McCain (R-AZ), Not "
vote was taken on July 26th, before the DNC in Aug.
Clinton (D-NY), Yea , Someone had time to vote and campaign at the same time
"That would be McCain. He lied about his trip to Iraq and the troop surge. Can't point spain out on a map and called Putin the leader of Germany. He's a moron. "
At least McCain knows how many states there are in the union. A love ly quote from Barak Obama here for you.
"Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states"
Coincidentally there are 57 Islamic States and only 50 States in The U.S. Just tired or remembering his education and background?
Obama (D-IL), Not
McCain (R-AZ), Not "
vote was taken on July 26th, before the DNC in Aug.
Clinton (D-NY), Yea , Someone had time to vote and campaign at the same time
"That would be McCain. He lied about his trip to Iraq and the troop surge. Can't point spain out on a map and called Putin the leader of Germany. He's a moron. "
At least McCain knows how many states there are in the union. A love ly quote from Barak Obama here for you.
"Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states"
Coincidentally there are 57 Islamic States and only 50 States in The U.S. Just tired or remembering his education and background?
I disagree, I think Obama was a lot of democrats 1st choice, to include mine. I considered Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul as potential candidates. In the end, Obama was who I voted for in the Primary.
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Ok Don enough bullshit about McCain being born in panama or where ever it was at least both his parents were american. Unlike obama who is actually an african american seeing how his daddy was an african and went back abandoning his family. But hey that's not something you want to bring up is it?
What his dad did is irrelevant. Obama was born on American soil! McCain... Well... McCain was born on Panamanian soil. Obama is a natural born American citizen. I know it hurts, but hey. If you guys wanna bring up your ridiculous bullshit about Ayers and Acorn and all your other little meaningless shit about the National Anthem or his faith... I can play that game too. I think any citizen of the U.S. should be allowed to run, despite their place of birth. I would much rather Arnold Schwartzenegger be the GOP candidate than McCain.