Swingers Forum - RIGHTS?

Why does Obama want to take away our right to the persuit of happiness? Im sorry let me refrase that...... Why does he want to TAX our right to the persuit of Happiness? The give it to those who dont want to work har to get where we might be... And Im not talking about multi millionairs now. Im talkint about Upper middle class. Maybe someone who ownes a small buisness netting over 250,000 a year. Say someone Like Joe plumber or a contractor or most every small buisness owner.. The biggest job provider across the nation?

Because the money isn't going back into the community voluntarily, to maintain community livelihood and prosperity. Greed prevents most capitalists from investing in their communities and taking proper care of those that make their companies run or the rest of the community resources and services that they partake in. Though they are the first to complain about how shitty the community has become, because of their apathy and lack of investment in it, they do nothing. Bad way to do business and it's the very reason the rest of the world thinks we're douchebags. We do business abroad like we do it here. <b>THANKS DUBYA!!!!</b>

The only way to bring the money back into the community, is to force the rich to give some of it back. Somethings, like healthcare, education and other necessities of a strong community cannot be denied and chalked up as profit in the pocket of the rich, without cost to the nation's future, both in quality replacements in the future workforce with education, but with a healthy society that doesn't degrade because of all the consumerism that is a direct result of capitalism.

If you want government programs to work reform that which needs to be reformed in government, but don't just slash spending like retards. Capitalists aren't future thinkers. They concern themselves with the here and now and don't think of consequences. That is why we are bailing out the housing industry. Something everyone's got their fuckin' hand in.

The Freddy and Fanny bullshit started with George Sr, Clinton threw the ball too and Ended with GB Junior. It's a shit sandwich and we all took a bite, but it's a testament as to why capitalism should be heavily regulated. To many times people have been fucked by these giants. It's time to put them in their place. We can fine them for everything from hiring illegal aliens to fucking the little guy.

MAGNOLIACPL,

Yeah the camera "don't lie". That's why Barrack is leading by a fuckin' lap and 1/2 in the polls with respect to tonights debate. That couple with the first two wins put your boy with his dick in the dirt. Now, let's hope McCain isn't too much like Bush and try to steal the election.

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http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/general-election/electoral-college-results.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/national.html




-D-

Hell I do not want my taxes going to pay for welfare,fuck that. Every single person in this country is afforded the opportunity for at least a high school education. Whether a person wants to learn is up to them. Now if they choose not to learn why should I or anyone for that matter give them free money/healthcare.

That Don is called socialism.. and if you gave the American people the right to vote on whether or not they want thier hard earned money to help others who do not work hard, I am sure you and your socialist loving friends would be sadly mistaken. You keep grouping all of us together. Hard working americans who bring home upper middle class incomes with extream wealth. Obama wants to tax anyone who makes over 250,000 a year and that also includes many many small buisnesses who employ most of Americas workforce. Two things ARE going to happen when he does that. People will lose thier jobs and the prices of just about everything will go up. I have asked you before and Ill ask again. Where are the jobs going to come from if Obama puts his system into place? Please let us know when in history the wellfair state created jobs. You have great arguments for socialism but this is America. We love our freedom and the persuit of Happiness is an individual right. It is not however the persuit of my nieghbors happiness.

By the way you ignorant FUCK..... if anyone is trying to steal this election it is without a doubt Obama. You cant even argue it.. ACORN is being investigated across the country in about 15 states. Voter fraud is running ramped. They are being caught registering dead people, babies, out of state collage students. They are estimating there will be millions of fraudulent votes cast for OBama nation wide. ACORN asshole... your boy was thier lawyer for a few years so he cant deny ties with them but he tries to. He also earmarked 40 million fucking bucks on a bill back in may for them.. one of the few votes he actualy did cast a ballot on. Let me ask you a question.. if this socialist piece of shit is so good for the country why do the democrates have to cheat to get him elected???

SEXYCTCOUPLE,

By the way you waterhead fucktard, Obama has nothing to do with their business. He and some <b>republicans</b> dealt with them on an entirely different issue. Man you are fucking stupid. You aren't even fit to debate. You are grasping at straws in the debate, you've bent to name calling, which I am very glad to follow you there. You have nothing valid, so here we are in a name calling match. HAHA Way to go moron. HAHAHA!

-D-

His relations with Bill Ayers are inconsequential. Your tired propaganda is just that... Tired propaganda. It's much less shocking than McCain's close friendship with Keating.

-D-

It wasn't proven. The judge didn't even hear the case. DUMB ASS!

"It means he makes bad choices. "

You mean choices like Keating? You mean like Palin violating ethics in Alaska. HAHAHA! What a tard.

"TR does not have the balls to call out his own party....just like his candidate...what do you expect, a backbone from either of them....you are dreaming. "

I don't have to have balls to address any of those issues. McCain already did on national television and He talked about them. All of the allegations have nol proof of any shady dealing. He casually brushed it off. Why? Because it's all speculative bullshit. It's just fearmongering bullshit that's costing McCain the race. What facts we do have is that McCain was reprimanded for poor ethics and even the chairman over the investigation committee says McCain was liar. Those are facts. Show me some facts that show actual violations of national security or unethical transactions that violate law and I listen to your bullshit.. Until then... Shut the fuck up. mmmkay? haha!

That Joe The Plumber Video was great. It was also great how Obama came back with a quick answer. Fox was the only one making it sound like Obama was stumped by Joe. Joe didn't look like he was hurting too bad. Looked like a middle class guy. How about we have a impoverished person with no medicare ask McCain what he's gonna do? $5000 credit that will cause current policy owners to lose their coverage is McCain's answer. Yeah... I think the polls are maintaining just fine.


Interesting story about JOE.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008277201_campjoe17.html

It appears he is just a bullshitter.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/17/feeling-plumber-fatigue-media-turns-joe/

What's this there is a Rumor that he's a plant and related to Charles Keating (KEATING FIVE!!!). HAHA! What a joke.

"There are a lot of questions being asked now about the star of last night's debate, Joe "The Plumber" Wurzelbacher. To many he seemed perfect-- maybe a little too perfect for the role he was playing: Joe Six-Pack.
It turns out Mr. Wurzelbacher is not a licensed plumber. He's not a licensed plumber, yet he is planning on starting his own plumbing business. Hmmmm. It also turns out that Mr. Wurzelbacher had a tax-lien placed against him because he owes $1,183 in back taxes.
It also looks as though Joe Wurzelbacher is related to Robert Wurzelbacher, the son-in-law of Charles Keating of Keating 5 fame. Readers will remember that John McCain was involved in the Keating 5 scandal. Both Charles Keating and Robert Wurzelbacher went to prison for corruption. Robert Wurzelbacher is now out of prison and a big donor for the Republican Party.
Of course it could all be a coincidence right? Well, here's another funny coincidence: Joe the Plumber lived in Arizona from 1997-2000. He lived at 1960 W. Keating Ave in Mesa, Arizona. There's that name again-- KEATING. It turns out that Keating Ave is named after-- you guessed it-- CHARLES KEATING, who developed the real estate in the 1970s.
Lots of "coincidences" there folks. Was Joe the Plumber Wurzelbacher a PLANT? It's too early to say definitively, we're still connecting the dots; but it doesn't look good for John McCain. The whole thing looks desperate and orchestrated"


Oh and on a side note Obama was right

In a Thursday story fact-checking the presidential candidates' debate, The Associated Press incorrectly reported that Barack Obama overstated the proportion of households that would see tax cuts under his economic plan. The Democrat specified that he was talking about "working Americans," and the figure he cited

Posted By: TEQUILAROSE Reply posted on:
Oct 15, 2008 - 11:45 pm
Because the money isn't going back into the community voluntarily, to maintain community livelihood and prosperity. Greed prevents most capitalists from investing in their communities and taking proper care of those that make their companies run or

the rest of the community resources and services that they partake in.

Though they are the first to complain about how shitty the community has become, because of their apathy and lack of investment in it, they do nothing.

Bad way to do business and it's the very reason the rest of the world thinks we're douchebags. We do business abroad like we do it here. THANKS DUBYA!!!!

Capitalists aren't future thinkers. They concern themselves with the here and now and don't think of consequences.

That is why we are bailing out the housing industry. Something everyone's got their fuckin' hand in.

The Freddy and Fanny bullshit started with George Sr, Clinton threw the ball too and Ended with GB Junior. It's a shit sandwich and we all took a bite, but it's a testament as to why capitalism should be heavily regulated. To many times people have been fucked by these giants. It's time to put them in their place. We can fine them for everything from hiring illegal aliens to fucking the little guy.
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So, the companies should invest in the communities. OK. As I have asked before, what will the communities do? You want to talk fairness? Will the community also pledge to patronize local forsaking all others, for better or worse, till death do they part? After all, it is a marriage you are talking about, isn't it? Before we say "yes", lets also realize that brick and mortar stores are having trouble competing with internet stores. Why? Because the community you speak of cheats on it's "spouse". Unless you are traveling, if you buy fuel from a station out of your community when you have a chance to go community, you say that you don't give a crap about your community business. If I am looking of a power supply for my computer and I don't go to my local store followed by the local chain store and then to the internet, etc, etc, I am saying the same thing. In an ideal world, I would buy from my local store and if it didn't have it, go to the chain store and finally to the internet. In the real world, I buy from the cheapest source. So, if I don't give a crap about supporting my community businesses, why do they owe it to me to support me? When they are having hard times, does the community give a crap? If not, why should the business give a crap about the community. We DON'T have a community. We have a bunch of people living together for mutual convenience. Should it not be convenient, they will be gone.

AND PAID FOR. Don't forget that part.

And what does the community promise to do if the company goes belly up? Besides trying to get what it can from the company furniture, etc, etc like vultures on a carcass?

I'm sure nobody else in the world does any of the stuff you speak of. What a bunch of douchbags we are. :!

No. Of course not. Oh, you meant that they don't think of the community that doesn't give a crap about it, right?

Yes and it has nothing to do with the notion that bad loans were guaranteed by a couple of wonderfully created companies. What were their names again?

So govt intervention caused this mess and now we need more intervention to fix it. Let me put this in medical terms. I am sick with cancer. Maybe I could use a few more illnesses to fix it. Sure.

As always one sided blind mindless BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!