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Hi,

Dale here. Been cruising this and other sites now for about six months. While the search has been relatively fruitless thusfar, it certainly is enjoyable research :).

The personal rant/pet peeve/what-haveyou is the pervasive use of the "Barbie and Ken" phrase. Now we all know that the Barbie and Ken in question are dolls that are used as a symbol of perfection (are you still with me?).

I would like to implore everyone to boycott the use of KEN AND FUCKING BARBIE when "we aren't perfect!" will do just fine and actually shows a little humbleness instead of "Hey all you out there! - we dont look like GreekfuckingGods" - well no shit! the few out there that actually approach Greekgods in appearance are plenty happy to show themselves!

told you I was going to rant and - sorry - I don't proofread my rants!

if you made it this far, thank you for your time and I hope you have a great Day! (truly)

an ambassador for improved communications :)
Hello..well I am with you ..alot of people just dont get it..BUT just get ready because all those Ken And Barbies are gonna flame this till the cows come home..I just wish people would understand that Brad And Angeline DONT do swinger sites and if you dont find someone attractive just say so..You dont have to be ugly by saying SORRY WE DONT DO FAT PEOPLE..OOOooo!I dont think people understand swinging..its to experience something DIFFERENT ..If I wanted to have sex with someone EXACTLLY like my wife ..DUH why dont you just have sex with your wife!?!?!?Plenty of times just my wife had sex..and boy howdy when we got home it just made her hot for me..Its not about well she cant if there isnt a hot woman for me..ITS to experience a sexual freedom of each other..WOW..I Need a cig wanna join CHREK2 ???KattNJohn
I so third that notion, I know I live in an area where it seems there are more of the "Greek Gods" than in some areas and I know I would love to play and explore, but I love curves and substance in my women more and to me those type are more for eye candy because they are a little hard to keep happy. I know I have dated and been with several of them in my years as a Bouncer it seemed I was also a Great "pet"... Now days I love to meet all people and I dont want to step on any toes of those people who fall into "Greek Gods" catagory I just prefer the rest of us normal people who have the bodies who seem to feel comfortable just being our selves....

But those who are of the "Greek Gods" stature thank you for being perfect it does create great fantasies and those whom i have met on here have actually been very nice and enjoyable...

That said Have a Great day and hope to meet so many more of all of you out there.... Friends are best when you all have some thing in common....
Of all the Barbie Dolls out there my favorite is "Divorced Barbie". She come with all of Ken's stuff!
"PEOPLE WILL BE PEOPLE," it is because of the bad ( bad meaning good) bodies out there that most people find confort in their bodies just being normal, most of the so called greek gods and godesses struggle with keeping up with the next sexiest person to come along. Not sure if they are meeting the new standards of sexy like: big breast are good not small ones , if big butts are in or out, and is being to skinny ugly now a days . I thank GOD and THE GOOD SPIRITS of nature for making women in all different shapes and sizes, because I am a fuck'em all type of guy( I mean that in the sexual sense).


We can't be responsible for other people's children. I just finished a training class; a kid no more than eighteen or so constantly shouted during class,"I hate fat chicks," without any regard or regret for the insult to women in the area (not to say that they are fat). You and I both know that the skinniest women will call herself fat ( truely she does need some, fat that is) and be about 98lbs soaking wet. Peoeple will be people and we can't be responsible for everyone's ignorance nor can we change them to see our piont of veiw.


I believe hope, tolerance, and education are the clouds we can use to rise above all stupidity. Let's all hope this thread will be the first in a long line of threads to educate the ignorant.

peace, love and happiness to all;)
And we thought Ken and Barbie were plastic dolls with no brains or heart. Pretty smart comments coming from a piece of plastic there Ken and Barbie. It is all about perception of ones self. If you got it then flaunt it, you deserve to and most work hard to look that good. It is JUST a phrase, but understood it just happens to be your pet peeve. Try to look past it and we are sure your searching will not be so fruitless.

Beany, good to see you are still active on here and you nailed it when you said you want something different. Everyone enjoys the lifestyle for different reasons but we seem to share the same reasons with you.

In case you hadn`t noticed, this lifestyle requires you to have a thick skin (no fat pun intended) and not take everything said or written to heart. We are hear for fun and hope to continue finding others that feel the same. If we don`t like your profile then we won`t contact you and you do the same for us. No hard feelings, no asking people to rephrase their profiles, just adult fun.
I hope that people understand that I think of all people as people and dont stereo type , or at least try not to and we both just love meeting cool people and open minded people period not matter of how any one looks ....

Sorry if any one took offense and I hope no one did... I just know a few people have responded that they placed them selves above others and that some one like us doesnt meet their standards so I ranted my two cents but looking back at wording and such I just wanted to appoligise and say that we should never scorn any other for any thing.
Hello NP yes I think we 4 would have a fun time with each other.But I think what Chrke2 was getting at is just be honest dont say you are 120 HWP and have a pic of you ass that takes up the WHOLE screen!?!?!Or say you are 120 HWP and have bones sticking out where there SHOULDT be any!?!?!?And to the person above me-84101 if we are all dumbasses then why respond it wouldnt change our way of thinking..But thats why this is America and we can have a say..so go to work and try to LISTEN to OTHERS point of view?!?!?HHhhhmmmm?Good to hear from you again NP..me and the misses would still like to meet you guys..Take care everyone..be safe..KattNJohn:z oh to the couple with the azzzzs just hope I explained it..:!
Wildandcrazy there is nothing wrong with Ken and Barbie at all, especially after seeing that picture. It gives me flashbacks to this past Friday night.
CHECKTHISOUT84101:

There now, don't you feel better? Nothing like a good rant is there?

By the way - when did clowns start taking themselves so seriously?
What is wrong with the "Ken and Barbie" type? We like the Ken and Barbie type, and respect that they work so hard to stay in shape. Keep it up all you SEXY People.
WHo could not possible not like the shape, so long as there are brains behind the bodies.
Just perhaps a lot of the people who think they are ken and barbies do so because of the plastic they have added to themselves!! Now I am not talking about all but perhaps some.
Who could not like the shape? Well, I don't know about the shape, I just know they break easily.

(yes...a joke.)

Since we use the metaphor to convey a specific concept in our profile, I might as well qualify it. We simply specify that you don't NEED to be that body type to appeal to us. The two of us like many, many body types - so we say it with an economy of words.

(BTW...no plastic here)
I'm sure there are a lot of couples who fit the "Mr. and Mrs. Potato head" stereotype. Please don't neglect them. As you know, their parts are interchangeable, unlike Ken and Barbie...
My 2 cents: I don't care for people that run around acting full of themselves, but i definitely don't mind if someone looks greekgod-ish or ken&barbie-ish or whatever. I like a lot of different body types and think it's all about personal preference and there's someone for everyone. Not everyone has to like everyone else either. I like curves on a girl, but I don't mind skinny girls either. I think it goes both ways. I've had people be rude to be around here bcuz i'm skinny and paid for boob enhancement. I don't go around yelling at people that don't have the same body type as I do, so I don't think people should get mad at me cuz i'm naturally skinny. *shrugs* that's just my random opinion. other than that, people just need to learn to play nice.
I (the hubby) found this thread interesting and wanted to make one other point.
As with pretty much everyone, I agree that the personality of an individual/couple is the most important quality they have.
That being said, I have found that many times when an individual/couple does have the "Barbie & Ken" look there are judgements made about their personalities before people really get to know them.

Our experience with those who have had the "Barbie/Ken look, is that they have been extremely friendly, nice and from our experience non-judgemental.

(I know this wasn't really the theme of the thread but since it started heading this way I just went with it! lol)
We like the type of couples who are proud of their looks. The Barbie & Ken we know are the most respectful and gracious couple we have met on any site. Having that kind of look comes with a lot of hard work and care for their bodies. Why judge a book by the cover before you get a chance to see the personalities and assets (pun intended) on any great looking couple out there. The nickname its just an extension of the ever-popular dolls... If you got it... well, you know.

We like to look, it motivate us to work on our own looks. We want couples to like us for our wits, but lets be real... a nicely-shaped butt and body can make all of us smile anytime.

*** G ***
Hey... everybody who talks about people working hard to stay in shape... well I work very hard at mine as well! After all ROUND is a shape isn't it ;)

Actually I have to agree that people should go beyond looks and get to know peoples personalities. You never know how you might get along, but of course you will never find out if you don't try. This is a fantasy thing for some people, and for those who are in it for looks only are missing out on some really wonderful people out there. This isn't just about sex, but is a great way to meet new people. Sex is just an added bonus!
Ok...so we're ones that have referenced the dreaded "Ken and Barbie" cliche in our profile.

However...we made no insinuation that it is referring to a specific body type. None at all.

Our reference is specifically related to personality aspects.

Cliche "Ken and Barbie" personalities (for us at least), seem to think that they merit some special dispensation of adoration and acknowledgement of their OBVIOUS hotness from the swinger community at large.

It's a personality thing...because physical attraction is totally subjective.

You see...for us, that's a huge turn off; a total yawner.

Even though initial attraction cannot be denied importance, charming and intelligent personalities will always win in the end, and outweigh any absence of any boring-ass, cliche-ridden stereotypes of "hotness" that many think all of us should be looking for in playmates.

So...we invoke the Ken/Barbie reference in our profile. Big fucking deal. It stays, cuz it says exactly what we want it to. :)

J
eat this lol

kristylynn
Huh?
While we are talking about phrases that piss you off, what other phrases are we to avoid lest we piss you off again? Come on, it is just a phrase. If I use the phrase "pot calling the kettle black", are you going to get on the soap box and tell me that I am looking down on black people? How about "bald faced lie"? Is it looking down on bald people?

Many people, (us included) don't want to work out and keep our bodies looking like someone in a fitness magazine. Well, that is the choice we made. I'd like to look like Arnold S did in his prime but I don't want to put in the effort. Well, sucks to be me then. Grow a thicker skin.
ok so we are not Ken and Barbie..
oh my,,

k & a
oh heres one lol

k
mybe this is to your liking lol

k
then why would they Ken and Barbie
oh lets not forget trailer park Barbie
and heres crack whore Barbie
now we need to post this one
and now for the badgirl,,
and for the ones who don't like K & B

DO U SEE THE PROBLEM HERE lol

k
DISCLAIMER: I didn’t necessarily intend to post again – this thread is really humming along fine on its own. But, I felt compelled to try to make a clarification. The disclaimer is, that for those of you that didn’t care for what you thought I was saying the first time, its quite likely you’ll fare no better this time – so please stop reading here and save us both some time.

Now then, I wrote the damn rant in the first place. Being of relatively sound mind and relatively sound body I believe I am best qualified to know what the rant was about! Actually, it wasn’t really a rant but rather a several minute pause to scratch a quite minor itch.

I signed myself “an ambassador for improved communications” (all small letters cuz I was self-appointed  ). The only point I wanted to get across was that I found it tiresome that three particular words had come to represent so much and, yet, really so little.

When a sub-community relies on catch phrases too heavily, they usually become nothing more than a cliché and of very little communicative value – in my most humble opinion .

All of this is just my humble opinion by the way.

This thread has been interesting to me and apparently quite a few others – Note:

In 36 hours in the LS Talk forum section this post has generated roughly 1500 views and 30 replies. Scrolling backwards, the next post to have more views required 15 days to accumulate over 2400 views yet only 23 replies.

In the Just Talk section it took Garnet 5 days to generate 4190 or so views and 51 replies.

In LS Questions – Holy Crap! As Frank Barone would say - in just OVER 30 hours, Anal Sex commanded close to 6500 views and 54 responses (sounds to me like most people have their head up their butt – butt I digress….

My point being, I vented on a minor annoyance (sorry! CHECKTHISOUT84101). Truthfully, I don’t really give a shit what ya’ll call ya’ll! But, I do think this points out that, on profiles that behoove us to explain ourselves, we can bequite lacking. “Kent-and whats-her-fucking-name” doesn’t really reveal much. And I’m betting there are more than a few people who will at least pause to think before future utilization of the phrase, thus making this all worthwhile 

A couple of by-the-ways:

- I consider myself to be pretty average, near as I can tell
- I love to look at Kent-and-whats-her-fucking-name (KAWHFN) types
- I would never approach kawhfns, expressing interest in them
- I would not want to be a kawhfn – gotta be kinda like having a fucking spotlight on ya all the time
- My favorite post on this thread so far belongs to: LOVE4GROUPE (page 1)
- Aside to: UTBARBIEANDKEN – I’ve read enough of your posts to hope you know I intended no malice towards you 

Good communication Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: CHRKE2 Reply posted on:
Jul 21, 2008 - 11:32 pm

- I consider myself to be pretty average, near as I can tell
- I love to look at Kent-and-whats-her-fucking-name (KAWHFN) types
- I would never approach kawhfns, expressing interest in them
- I would not want to be a kawhfn gotta be kinda like having a fucking spotlight on ya all the time



Fair enough. That is your opinion. Others might differ.
No law against it.
That is your perogative
So don't be. Someone else might be happy that way. Who are we to say otherwise?
Some of us just know were not the Ken type, so we marry younger better looking Barbies.....
Ain't that the truth! I did the same thing and I am just tagging along for comic relief. LOL ***G***