I enjoy the feature of being able to have both public and private pictures available to me to post, they serve a purpose for us. We use our public pics as bait, a way for people to develop some understanding and image of who we are, what we look like and if we tend to be more serious about lifestyles or just dipping our toes in the water. We have tried to be careful about posting pictures in public that are too identifying just for the sake of descretion. We dont necessarely want to be recognized by various people. The private pictures we use to help people recognize us, there we have facial pictures along with more risque photos of activities that demonstrate or "show off" our involvement in swinging. To a degree for us and for others in varying degrees, its also some exhibitionism and bragging. Those pictures we reserve for couples or individuals to whom we feel more attraction to or desire to become involved with. (Then there is the new feature which although we havent used, that we appreciate that allows you to select groups of people to share event photos.). I have said nothing yet that is new to anyone, however, the reason I bring all this up is due to a recent number of rude messages related to "private pictures".
During the past few months, we have recieved both on this profile and on our other profile, a significant number of people adding us to their friends list. We recieve the standard message of "Someone Likes You" and nothing else. The majority of these messages are coming from people in other states. We open them and unless we are awed by something spectacular, we close them and forget them. A few days later we recieve messages that contain in various manners this type of message: "Why didnt you add us to your friends list? We added you so you could see our pictures, why cant we see yours?"
Now.. just for the record, we are not picture collectors. I admit that many of you have some adorable bodies that definitely would be heaven to play with, but unless you indicate some interest in doing more than just comparing photos and getting your thrills off from seeing us naked, we arent going to share. I dont know how many others how have similar view points.. but tell me what you feel. From our observation, a large number of picture traders and collectors, (amature voyeurs) seem to be invading the websight.
Just a note. It would be so very helpful to us when you do add us to your friends list, you state a reason why. It helps us understand what type of response you are seeking, and that way we would be glad to respondand know in what manner to respond. we may not always respond the way you are seeking, but atleast a polite response back to you. And please.. to those of you who beg to see private photos.. the more you try to persuade, the less chance you have.
During the past few months, we have recieved both on this profile and on our other profile, a significant number of people adding us to their friends list. We recieve the standard message of "Someone Likes You" and nothing else. The majority of these messages are coming from people in other states. We open them and unless we are awed by something spectacular, we close them and forget them. A few days later we recieve messages that contain in various manners this type of message: "Why didnt you add us to your friends list? We added you so you could see our pictures, why cant we see yours?"
Now.. just for the record, we are not picture collectors. I admit that many of you have some adorable bodies that definitely would be heaven to play with, but unless you indicate some interest in doing more than just comparing photos and getting your thrills off from seeing us naked, we arent going to share. I dont know how many others how have similar view points.. but tell me what you feel. From our observation, a large number of picture traders and collectors, (amature voyeurs) seem to be invading the websight.
Just a note. It would be so very helpful to us when you do add us to your friends list, you state a reason why. It helps us understand what type of response you are seeking, and that way we would be glad to respondand know in what manner to respond. we may not always respond the way you are seeking, but atleast a polite response back to you. And please.. to those of you who beg to see private photos.. the more you try to persuade, the less chance you have.
How do you know they're trading or collecting? Have you seen a picture of yours somewhere else? I think it's more likely, they put themselves out there and they want for you to reciprocate. I don't think it's a conspiracy. Though, I could be wrong. I still think it's an unfair expectation on their part. We don't owe anyone, anything... To hell with them, if they don't like it.
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I say, where there is a will, there is a way. Since we all come from different walks of life, there are some of us that have the will and the means to travel. However, I am sure there are those that do just want to ogle at pictures, just as there are those that like their pictures ogled. I say, do what works for you. ;-)
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Oh hell...please don't tell me there are pic collectors on this site too??
Indeed...Siren and I get plenty of those on both of our accounts, which is all good...and typically I try to give the benefit of the doubt, and assume good intentions on thier part.
Even if they live several states away...say in Utah (lol), we're still open to establishing an maintaining a friendship with people from all over the place. We already have a wealth of friendships established with peeps from across the board, and sometimes it started with something as simple as "Someone Likes You".
Having said that...there are the irksome scenarios we've run into to.
Someone adds you...you add them...and then you discover the next day you're off their friends' list. What purpose did THAT serve? I have only one conclusion to jump to in that case: Pic Collector!
Let us not forget about those that don't have any pics not only in their main profile, but you discover that there are none in the private section either...yet, they wish you to open your "privates" to them? Haha...that's laughable...and again, the one conclusion I arrive at: Pic Collector!
Whenever we add someone as a friend (which we use in the absence of a "kisses" or "flirts" function on Swingular), we're expressing an interest, or an admiration of the quality of their pics and/or profile, we'll typically shoot them an email stating that we enjoyed what we saw. That way...we don't have to worry about being clumped into that same category of "amateur voyeurs" that HYM was referring to.
Indeed...Siren and I get plenty of those on both of our accounts, which is all good...and typically I try to give the benefit of the doubt, and assume good intentions on thier part.
Even if they live several states away...say in Utah (lol), we're still open to establishing an maintaining a friendship with people from all over the place. We already have a wealth of friendships established with peeps from across the board, and sometimes it started with something as simple as "Someone Likes You".
Having said that...there are the irksome scenarios we've run into to.
Someone adds you...you add them...and then you discover the next day you're off their friends' list. What purpose did THAT serve? I have only one conclusion to jump to in that case: Pic Collector!
Let us not forget about those that don't have any pics not only in their main profile, but you discover that there are none in the private section either...yet, they wish you to open your "privates" to them? Haha...that's laughable...and again, the one conclusion I arrive at: Pic Collector!
Whenever we add someone as a friend (which we use in the absence of a "kisses" or "flirts" function on Swingular), we're expressing an interest, or an admiration of the quality of their pics and/or profile, we'll typically shoot them an email stating that we enjoyed what we saw. That way...we don't have to worry about being clumped into that same category of "amateur voyeurs" that HYM was referring to.
We have enough trouble with folks here in utah adding us to their friends list and wanting a similiar gesture from us.
We only add individuals to our friends list that we have personnally met and expect to see again in any context. We have removed individuals from our friends list that we havent seen in say 5 months or so. Not because we dont like them, but we view our personal pictures as personal.
With that said, we would like a feature that could mark a couple for future contact. We have met some really great folks and would like to keep them marked for a future invitation to a party that we may hold it that makes sense.
The same is true for out of staters, we have contacted some individuals from other states and would like to tag them should we ever venture into their area for some helpful directions etc...
A final thought, we have lots of unedited full face pics and of course full nude shots that have our faces and we consider them very personal and intend on shareing only with folks we hang with....
We only add individuals to our friends list that we have personnally met and expect to see again in any context. We have removed individuals from our friends list that we havent seen in say 5 months or so. Not because we dont like them, but we view our personal pictures as personal.
With that said, we would like a feature that could mark a couple for future contact. We have met some really great folks and would like to keep them marked for a future invitation to a party that we may hold it that makes sense.
The same is true for out of staters, we have contacted some individuals from other states and would like to tag them should we ever venture into their area for some helpful directions etc...
A final thought, we have lots of unedited full face pics and of course full nude shots that have our faces and we consider them very personal and intend on shareing only with folks we hang with....
Good points everyone.. even TR. So let me ask... what is wrong with adding a message when you send the "Someone Likes You" message? It would be alot easier to understand the intentions. I agree with THOUGHTGARDEN.. we have nothing wrong with people from distant areas wanting to be friends.. We have several and we enjoy them. BUT.. why not say.. COMING TO UTAH.. WOULD LIKE TO MEET? or.. Stop by if you are ever in town.. or.. Loved your main pics.. could be interested in getting together... Just share a reason for adding us to your friends list.
SIMPLEPLEASURES... we concur... it would be nice if the sight were to add a feature where you could add those friends you want to invite to parties and do a group message, or contacts for future relationships...
As for the pic collectors.. dont forget the peep shows. We find a great majority are just as TG described.. have no pics in their profile.. are usually younger singles who are too cheap to pay for porn, so they hope to get their ya yas off other peoples pics.
SIMPLEPLEASURES... we concur... it would be nice if the sight were to add a feature where you could add those friends you want to invite to parties and do a group message, or contacts for future relationships...
As for the pic collectors.. dont forget the peep shows. We find a great majority are just as TG described.. have no pics in their profile.. are usually younger singles who are too cheap to pay for porn, so they hope to get their ya yas off other peoples pics.
Bunny,
Not "arguing" at all. In fact to the contrary, I agreed that there are pic collectors as well, I was just saying that there are people that do things for different reasons and we should all try not to be too presumptuous. Just go with your gut. An observation, not an argument. Now, if you want to <i>argue</i>, let's talk about religion and/or politics. LOL!
Hym,
I think adding someone should come after you know them. After all, how can you "like" someone without first knowing them. Perhaps there should be a "someone is interested" mail that doesn't open your album to them. I think the permissions aspect of this site could be improved.
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Not "arguing" at all. In fact to the contrary, I agreed that there are pic collectors as well, I was just saying that there are people that do things for different reasons and we should all try not to be too presumptuous. Just go with your gut. An observation, not an argument. Now, if you want to <i>argue</i>, let's talk about religion and/or politics. LOL!
Hym,
I think adding someone should come after you know them. After all, how can you "like" someone without first knowing them. Perhaps there should be a "someone is interested" mail that doesn't open your album to them. I think the permissions aspect of this site could be improved.
-D-
I don't think much of someone adding me as a friend unless it is accompanied by another email saying hello. I have found that for me to add a person as a friend it either has to be someone I know personally or someone that has my attention through thoughtful emails and such.
I may be missing the picture on what 'someone like you' really means. Oh well...just my opinion.
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I may be missing the picture on what 'someone like you' really means. Oh well...just my opinion.
m
Bunny,
I totally respect your views. I respect most people's view, unless I find that they are blatantly making shit up in desperation to validate their side.
I am an Atheist. I am also a democrat, while I live in this state anyway, because it counter balances, in my mind, the Republican Majority. I am actually a moderate centrist. I refuse to ever be a republican because of the strong influence the Christian Church has on the party. I do not think religion as any place in government <u>at all</u>.
As for the topic of this thread, I wasn't even trying to argue. I was only trying to shed perspective on the issue. While to some it may look like a rash of picture collectors (which do exist), there is no way to tell and it is my opinion that the best way to handle people is whatever makes you comfortable. If you don't want to give them up until you know them, don't. I am usually ok with someone having my private pics, if I have theirs and it doesn't look like fake bullshit. Am I wrong some of the time? I don't doubt it.
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I totally respect your views. I respect most people's view, unless I find that they are blatantly making shit up in desperation to validate their side.
I am an Atheist. I am also a democrat, while I live in this state anyway, because it counter balances, in my mind, the Republican Majority. I am actually a moderate centrist. I refuse to ever be a republican because of the strong influence the Christian Church has on the party. I do not think religion as any place in government <u>at all</u>.
As for the topic of this thread, I wasn't even trying to argue. I was only trying to shed perspective on the issue. While to some it may look like a rash of picture collectors (which do exist), there is no way to tell and it is my opinion that the best way to handle people is whatever makes you comfortable. If you don't want to give them up until you know them, don't. I am usually ok with someone having my private pics, if I have theirs and it doesn't look like fake bullshit. Am I wrong some of the time? I don't doubt it.
-D-
Our additional info states that we would like you to send a comment with your "someone likes you". It happens 1 outta 10 times. Learn to read, LOL
Bunny
Hell yes we added you, we didn't even read your shit!!!!!! Why would we when your home pic is as hot as it is?
P.S. "someone likes you"
Hell yes we added you, we didn't even read your shit!!!!!! Why would we when your home pic is as hot as it is?
P.S. "someone likes you"
Bunny, that's what the forum is for... Offering perspective that is.
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Yeah, we don't do public pics anymore. We don't do fuck pics. So our pics are like a butt sniff between dogs. We allow those to sniff our butts, who let us sniff theirs. Sometimes, we don't allow it period. It's a "as we feel like it" thing.
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TR
You can sniff our butts....we are neutered though, does that matter!
You can sniff our butts....we are neutered though, does that matter!
Haha! We are neutered and spayed as well.
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Bob Barker sends his love!!!
This is a good topic and I have a few words to go with what has been said so far. For the most part, when the private pics was invented on this site (way back in early 2000), we wanted an easy way for people to add others so they could view them. Because we don't have a 'favorites' feature, people started using the 'add to friends' as a way to 'bookmark' who they thought were possibilities, etc... Thus people getting tons of 'Someone Likes You' messages without further response. I've done it plenty of times especially to build up a list of people I 'Liked' just from what I saw or read so if we ever had a private party, we could invite.
Now, after personally realizing that this did not work the way I WANTED it to work and that they were actually two different functions, we've decided to create a new feature called 'Favorites.' Its basically a personal tagging system so you can tag who you think is 'hot' and who you may want to contact in the future. This allows you to keep two separate lists. One for actual friends, another for favorites. Also, because we have the custom photo albums now, you can choose to put your more risque stuff in an even more private folder and selectively add who you wish to view them. THIS IS AVAILABLE NOW. Just go to your photo albums page and click the CREATE NEW ALBUM link.
So for those of you who are wondering why you get so many 'Someone Likes You' emails, it's not the fault of the person sending it but rather a missing function on the site. For those of you who get an additional email because you didn't reciprocate, don't look at it right off the bat that these are picture collectors, because there are a ton of people who are real swingers that know they can't hook up with someone '5' states away but can still make a friend and get their jollies from just chatting online and seeing pictures of each other. Who knows, maybe one day that trip will be worth it. With that said, I'm not saying how they approach you is right, no one should be mad or beg to see your private pics just because they allowed you to. I probably wouldn't want to respond back to someone like that either. So hopefully by adding a 'favorites' feature will help reduce some of that.
Oh, I think someone mentioned something about the 'send a kiss' feature missing from Swingular as well. That used to be a feature here but it became a very hot topic just like this one and more members thought it was annoying than useful as they also got tons of kiss emails with no further response. So we removed it.
Now, after personally realizing that this did not work the way I WANTED it to work and that they were actually two different functions, we've decided to create a new feature called 'Favorites.' Its basically a personal tagging system so you can tag who you think is 'hot' and who you may want to contact in the future. This allows you to keep two separate lists. One for actual friends, another for favorites. Also, because we have the custom photo albums now, you can choose to put your more risque stuff in an even more private folder and selectively add who you wish to view them. THIS IS AVAILABLE NOW. Just go to your photo albums page and click the CREATE NEW ALBUM link.
So for those of you who are wondering why you get so many 'Someone Likes You' emails, it's not the fault of the person sending it but rather a missing function on the site. For those of you who get an additional email because you didn't reciprocate, don't look at it right off the bat that these are picture collectors, because there are a ton of people who are real swingers that know they can't hook up with someone '5' states away but can still make a friend and get their jollies from just chatting online and seeing pictures of each other. Who knows, maybe one day that trip will be worth it. With that said, I'm not saying how they approach you is right, no one should be mad or beg to see your private pics just because they allowed you to. I probably wouldn't want to respond back to someone like that either. So hopefully by adding a 'favorites' feature will help reduce some of that.
Oh, I think someone mentioned something about the 'send a kiss' feature missing from Swingular as well. That used to be a feature here but it became a very hot topic just like this one and more members thought it was annoying than useful as they also got tons of kiss emails with no further response. So we removed it.
Well I know for us personally..as we browse profiles, it may be that it is only one of us here..and we want to remember who we added to show the other. OR it may be that we are both here and sometimes, we feel, it's just a simple subtle way of saying hello and we're interested in at least talking to you.
We recently had to take down our public pics, so our private album is all we've got out there.
I don't understand why people get so upset if people simply add them to their friends list..I think it's just putting ourselves out there..and if you like our pictures..add us back, shoot us an email..if not...thats ok to..no harm done and no akward "they read our email but never replied? Do they like us? Do they have so many email in their box that we're just out of sight out of mind?" moments.
I don't know..just my opinion, I think people get way to huffy, puffy about people simply ading them..if you dont want them picture collecting..but you're interested, shoot a hello email, it's not that tough.
xoxox
Heathen
We recently had to take down our public pics, so our private album is all we've got out there.
I don't understand why people get so upset if people simply add them to their friends list..I think it's just putting ourselves out there..and if you like our pictures..add us back, shoot us an email..if not...thats ok to..no harm done and no akward "they read our email but never replied? Do they like us? Do they have so many email in their box that we're just out of sight out of mind?" moments.
I don't know..just my opinion, I think people get way to huffy, puffy about people simply ading them..if you dont want them picture collecting..but you're interested, shoot a hello email, it's not that tough.
xoxox
Heathen
heh. I didn't realize it sent a message when adding someone. I really use the add friend feature to mark a profile that is interesting or so that I can send a message later if I can't right then. It's just an easy way for me to keep track.
Administrator, thanks, I am glad to hear that you will be adding that additional function that allows us to add favorites and yet still keep a separate friends list. Thats something we could utilize alot. I think alot of people are missing one valuable point here, and its simple. When you add someone to your friends list... if you want to meet them or have some form of contact.. even a simple "Hello" lets the person on the other end know you are interested and respond accordingly. We understand the adding to the friends list for future contact or because the profile was interesting. Anyway.. alot of interesting comments and some good insight that helps us use the functions better.
Muah
Cyndi
Muah
Cyndi
Although this post will seem a bit off topic, I see it as dovetailing into the question of why people want to be your friend just to see your naughty or face pics. It seems to me that what we should all want on this site are at least some of the following:
1) The people you are sharing your intimate photos with are real;
2) They aren't taking your pics and posting them all over the internet as many of us who are professionals would be mortified to find their naked bodies and faces posted anywhere someone wanted to look;
3) A forum to express ideas, meet either on-line or set up in-person meetings to see what happens from a swinging and/or friend perspective;
4) A way to keep track of those profiles/people who we either are attracted to physically (hence photos of naked bodies and faces where appropriate);
5) A place for you and your partner (or just you for those singles) to get titillated, see some real naked bodies rather than airbrushed images from Playboy or Penthouse;
6) Assistance in creating an environment at home that facilitates fantasy play and often leads to bigger and better sexual experiences and experimentation.
Now we are not very experienced in the lifestyle, but we have enjoyed our experiences, are looking for more but it is not every hook up or profile that works. Let's allow this site to be what it is, an avenue for those in the lifestyle, interested in the lifestyle or just plain horny to come, show us them how they want to be seen (please show real pics, not pics out of magazines or from other internet sites) and look at other bodies of all shapes, sizes and colors. One thing I have noticed on this site (other than there are one hell of a large number of us in Utah who are dying to be more open about sex than our environment seems to allow) is that there is a great diversity in those who are here. We each share a passion for sex, let's all enjoy what we can from this and be happy with it.
Just my thoughts having returned from paradise and now back to the old grind.
B.
P.S. We just, finally, added a private album after doing something wrong that did not show the pics before.
1) The people you are sharing your intimate photos with are real;
2) They aren't taking your pics and posting them all over the internet as many of us who are professionals would be mortified to find their naked bodies and faces posted anywhere someone wanted to look;
3) A forum to express ideas, meet either on-line or set up in-person meetings to see what happens from a swinging and/or friend perspective;
4) A way to keep track of those profiles/people who we either are attracted to physically (hence photos of naked bodies and faces where appropriate);
5) A place for you and your partner (or just you for those singles) to get titillated, see some real naked bodies rather than airbrushed images from Playboy or Penthouse;
6) Assistance in creating an environment at home that facilitates fantasy play and often leads to bigger and better sexual experiences and experimentation.
Now we are not very experienced in the lifestyle, but we have enjoyed our experiences, are looking for more but it is not every hook up or profile that works. Let's allow this site to be what it is, an avenue for those in the lifestyle, interested in the lifestyle or just plain horny to come, show us them how they want to be seen (please show real pics, not pics out of magazines or from other internet sites) and look at other bodies of all shapes, sizes and colors. One thing I have noticed on this site (other than there are one hell of a large number of us in Utah who are dying to be more open about sex than our environment seems to allow) is that there is a great diversity in those who are here. We each share a passion for sex, let's all enjoy what we can from this and be happy with it.
Just my thoughts having returned from paradise and now back to the old grind.
B.
P.S. We just, finally, added a private album after doing something wrong that did not show the pics before.
We get a lot of requests too but thought because we live in such a high tourism state here in Florida it was that they would be here on vacation and want to meet. I guess because we don`t care about pics unless we plan on meeting, we just don`t understand the fascination with pics that some seem to have.
I add people as friends so they can see additional pictures, including pictures of my face.
I always send an introduction message as well.
I always send an introduction message as well.
Admin,
Thanks for that clarification. I look forward to the favorites option.
As for the original point of this thread. I have used the "Add to Friends List" option as a way to bookmark those profiles that I found interesting either by their postings in the forum or chatroom. Most of them I plan on emailing later, unfortunately, I have on occasion forgotten to send a short email. I have always wanted to create a private album but it is very difficult to take any decent pics of yourself, anyone wanna help me on this? Just kidding.
Thanks for that clarification. I look forward to the favorites option.
As for the original point of this thread. I have used the "Add to Friends List" option as a way to bookmark those profiles that I found interesting either by their postings in the forum or chatroom. Most of them I plan on emailing later, unfortunately, I have on occasion forgotten to send a short email. I have always wanted to create a private album but it is very difficult to take any decent pics of yourself, anyone wanna help me on this? Just kidding.