While I know that we are new here, however, something has been bothering us. The few times that we have been the video chat room on this site, people have been putting their children on camera. Just a few moments ago a member placed what appeared to be a 2-3 year old little girl on camera.
In our opinion, a web cam should not be turned on if there are children in the vicinity. Let alone purposefully turning the camera as so it is pointed toward the child.
Is this action considered to be "normal" and acceptable behavior?
thx,
The Newbies.
In our opinion, a web cam should not be turned on if there are children in the vicinity. Let alone purposefully turning the camera as so it is pointed toward the child.
Is this action considered to be "normal" and acceptable behavior?
thx,
The Newbies.
I think if viewing of other peoples cameras are turned off on the computer where the kids are, and the kids are not old enough to read, I think it is ok. Just because you can see the kids on the other end, it does not mean that they can see everyone else.
Just an opinion.
CB
Just an opinion.
CB
Agreed.
We concur as well.
R&S
R&S
Right!! What everyone sed!
Riderz.
I can see that angle too. Very good point. My kids are teens and we rarely cam with them around, unless we are just chatting normally and they can't see the screen. I've shown my kids to a few people on the chat when bragging about how fuckin' beautiful they are, in a conversation.
HOWEVER... we <b><u>do not</u></b> expose them directly to the adult aspects of the website. They <i>do</i> know that we are swingers and what that means. We do not shelter our children. On the same token, we also teach them what privacy is by not allowing them into our private affairs. Anyway, everyone has their own standards for their children. I think we are doing ok. Ours are pretty fuckin cool. I think as long as you are not breaking the law, you should be fine.
-D-
I can see that angle too. Very good point. My kids are teens and we rarely cam with them around, unless we are just chatting normally and they can't see the screen. I've shown my kids to a few people on the chat when bragging about how fuckin' beautiful they are, in a conversation.
HOWEVER... we <b><u>do not</u></b> expose them directly to the adult aspects of the website. They <i>do</i> know that we are swingers and what that means. We do not shelter our children. On the same token, we also teach them what privacy is by not allowing them into our private affairs. Anyway, everyone has their own standards for their children. I think we are doing ok. Ours are pretty fuckin cool. I think as long as you are not breaking the law, you should be fine.
-D-
I would have to agree with the original posters.
In this day and age, the local child and family protective services have been know to remove kids from a house for actions very close to that. Sometimes all it takes is for a kid to mention seeing someones bare chest to the wrong person and suddenly the parents get hauled off to jail and their kids taken away.
In this state, if allegations get made and the parents are in the lifestyle, then the parents are automatically ruled as deviants and can permantly lose custody of their kids. I have seen it happen.
Kids have NO place being in the same room as anyone on cam in the chatroom on here. If your kid(s) come in the room by accident click the pause button until they leave. If you want one of your friends to see how cute your kids are, show them in a more discreet and private manner, such as on yahoo, MSN, or AOL. At least on those, you can chose who you allow to view your webcam.
In this day and age, the local child and family protective services have been know to remove kids from a house for actions very close to that. Sometimes all it takes is for a kid to mention seeing someones bare chest to the wrong person and suddenly the parents get hauled off to jail and their kids taken away.
In this state, if allegations get made and the parents are in the lifestyle, then the parents are automatically ruled as deviants and can permantly lose custody of their kids. I have seen it happen.
Kids have NO place being in the same room as anyone on cam in the chatroom on here. If your kid(s) come in the room by accident click the pause button until they leave. If you want one of your friends to see how cute your kids are, show them in a more discreet and private manner, such as on yahoo, MSN, or AOL. At least on those, you can chose who you allow to view your webcam.
GOLDENHANDZ77, you are certainly right about how things go this day and age with child protective services. Sometimes they really do need to step in and intervene but unfortunately that isn't always the case. Unless a child is truely neglected or being harmed we think the government has too much say. Which is only one of the many reasons we won't ever have children. However, that is whole other discussion. ;-) As long a those with children are cautious as many of you have mentioned then we think things are fine. Hiding things from them and them stumbling upon it later could end up being worse. Don's approach seems to have worked well but each has to do what is best in their situation. Have a great Tuesday all!
R&S
R&S
am a momma bear when it comes to my kids. They know am a nudist but they DO NOT know my lifestyle. The reason why they don't know about it is because I think in their teen age years they have a lot to worry about and also they are discovering the world outside the home. I give them a lot of advise and talk a lot to them to the point that they know what is swinging but again they do not know that we are swingers. My 14yr old daughter knows that am bi because a lot of her friends are bi and she was very confused as to the whole thing.
Not even our closes swing friends know my kids. We each talk about our kids and brag about them. I have met theirs and this summer we are planning to have the families join but this is ONLY because we have been friends for a while and we talk and know a lot about each other even private problems that only the closes family members would know. I know how they are with their kids and they know about how we are with ours, so I am comfortable with them meeting them.
I chatted with a cpl for a long time and we even played a few times. We got comfortable with each other and in one conversation the topic about the kids came up... We talked and bragged about the kids. After a few weeks I was asked if I wanted to see their kids on cam. I said ok just because we had played and talked a lot. I saw their kids and everything seemed normal. It turned out after a while the mother told me her daughter was bi and she loves to watch her daughter have "fun" with her friends. She sits back, plays with herself and tells her daughter what to do, another thing that was disturbing to me is that this person is a high school math teacher.
MY KIDS ARE OFF LIMITS... even when am chatting, emailling or just checking the site my laptop is posittioned in a way that no one can see the screen except who ever is in front of it. I also know that newborns till about 4 or 5 depending on the child development is ok to do as you please, but I remember things when I was 5 years old, things that my mom says but you where so small. To my opinion anything older than that should not be exposed to anything.
There are so many sick minds out there. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING.
Not even our closes swing friends know my kids. We each talk about our kids and brag about them. I have met theirs and this summer we are planning to have the families join but this is ONLY because we have been friends for a while and we talk and know a lot about each other even private problems that only the closes family members would know. I know how they are with their kids and they know about how we are with ours, so I am comfortable with them meeting them.
I chatted with a cpl for a long time and we even played a few times. We got comfortable with each other and in one conversation the topic about the kids came up... We talked and bragged about the kids. After a few weeks I was asked if I wanted to see their kids on cam. I said ok just because we had played and talked a lot. I saw their kids and everything seemed normal. It turned out after a while the mother told me her daughter was bi and she loves to watch her daughter have "fun" with her friends. She sits back, plays with herself and tells her daughter what to do, another thing that was disturbing to me is that this person is a high school math teacher.
MY KIDS ARE OFF LIMITS... even when am chatting, emailling or just checking the site my laptop is posittioned in a way that no one can see the screen except who ever is in front of it. I also know that newborns till about 4 or 5 depending on the child development is ok to do as you please, but I remember things when I was 5 years old, things that my mom says but you where so small. To my opinion anything older than that should not be exposed to anything.
There are so many sick minds out there. YOU JUST NEVER KNOW WHAT THEY ARE THINKING.
It is our responsibility to protect our kids exspecially at that young of an age. Our teenage boys do know about our lifestyle but our youngest does not and is too young to understand any way all four of our teenage boys are ok we are adults and as long as we are happy they dont care what we do. But i would never let them even been seen on the site chat room under the age of 18 is illegal to be shown or a part of it in any way. It could end up in a child porn situation and that is just sick to put your child in that type of situation .
I think as far as education of your children goes, It's up to the parent. That's the beauty of parenthood. How you teach them when they are young will reflect how they interact with the world later. We teach ours that the traditional Chiristian family, isn't the only form of family. We also teach them that relationships don't have to always involve two people or even two people of the same sex. Also that there is no "normal".
I think my teens, who are both close to leaving home, need to know everything I know about the outside world. It's my job to arm them with as much information as I can. How else can they make informed decisions for themselves??
Regarding the real topic here, I believe that it is not safe for parents to let their kids be seen on cam in a website oriented toward adults and sex. Not only because they might actually be exposed to some dude pounding his pud, but their are zealots out there, especially in the state I reside, that like to impose their own dogma on everyone, regardless of the 1st Amendment.
-D-
I think my teens, who are both close to leaving home, need to know everything I know about the outside world. It's my job to arm them with as much information as I can. How else can they make informed decisions for themselves??
Regarding the real topic here, I believe that it is not safe for parents to let their kids be seen on cam in a website oriented toward adults and sex. Not only because they might actually be exposed to some dude pounding his pud, but their are zealots out there, especially in the state I reside, that like to impose their own dogma on everyone, regardless of the 1st Amendment.
-D-
Up front I want to state that this is only my opinion and I don't want to sound like I wish to attack anyone who has children under cam.
First, it may be a simple thing to prevent a child from viewing cams and it is true that a young child which is yet unable to read cannot understand any content.
I wish to state that at any time I was on cam and could see another cam with a child then I would quickly cam-off. Of course the fun stops there but I don't wish to expose myself to a child so I turn off transmission.
Now there is the other scenario where someone has not turned on their cam but mine is on and a child is in the vicinity of viewing what is on the computer. I would never know unless the person online in the chat room were to mention the fact.
In short I would appreciate anyone who must be online and in the room to make some sort of arrangements without neglect of course to keep any children away from viewing anything of adult content. I sincerely feel it is respectful and it should be an understood rule of this lifestyle to do so.
First, it may be a simple thing to prevent a child from viewing cams and it is true that a young child which is yet unable to read cannot understand any content.
I wish to state that at any time I was on cam and could see another cam with a child then I would quickly cam-off. Of course the fun stops there but I don't wish to expose myself to a child so I turn off transmission.
Now there is the other scenario where someone has not turned on their cam but mine is on and a child is in the vicinity of viewing what is on the computer. I would never know unless the person online in the chat room were to mention the fact.
In short I would appreciate anyone who must be online and in the room to make some sort of arrangements without neglect of course to keep any children away from viewing anything of adult content. I sincerely feel it is respectful and it should be an understood rule of this lifestyle to do so.
Desert,
It is also the parent's resposibility to not be viewing any cams, with sexual content on them, with their children present.
Master,
In my opinion, the only smart way to teach you children is to show them that there are many choices in life and the they have the power and right to choose what works for them. How else can we exercise free will. Hell even the bible teaches that. If all you know is apples all your life and you are taught all your childhood that oranges are evil, when they are not, you will be robbed of other beauties in your life, having never had the choice. I am not going to make those kinds of decisions for my kids. I applaud you and your husband.
-D-
It is also the parent's resposibility to not be viewing any cams, with sexual content on them, with their children present.
Master,
In my opinion, the only smart way to teach you children is to show them that there are many choices in life and the they have the power and right to choose what works for them. How else can we exercise free will. Hell even the bible teaches that. If all you know is apples all your life and you are taught all your childhood that oranges are evil, when they are not, you will be robbed of other beauties in your life, having never had the choice. I am not going to make those kinds of decisions for my kids. I applaud you and your husband.
-D-