anybody like to use this party drug to loosen up the nights activities?? I know it sure gets my MRS in the mood.
I've always been curious about it.
well we've got a few more hours before we can get to sleep. xo
We Just Love when "Open Minded" people give such "closed and judgemental" responses
If you wanna explore with E ... enjoy ... live your life ... be responsible about it...and don't let others give you shit for it!
If you wanna explore with E ... enjoy ... live your life ... be responsible about it...and don't let others give you shit for it!
"E" where can you get some lol
You can take drugs responsibly.
I agree with e statement above this. Use does not equal abuse.
You said it best when you said it wasn't for you. This is a choice you made for yourself. In the end, it's individual choice and freedom that matter. Those that go to far and die from it, they pay the price and consequence. It's like driving a car. It can be dangerous to drive a car, but if you do it responsible, you will be fine. If you drive like an idiot you can hurt yourself or die. That is no reason to outlaw driving. However, it's smart to regulate it to ensure everyone's safety, even those not driving.
-D-
-D-
Referring to the original post, if you need E or any other drug or alcohol to get the Mrs. in the mood then maybe you need to check the company you are keeping. Seriously, is she having sex with the drug or the humans so why can`t the humans get her in the mood. We know a couple that knows how to seduce us, can get us in the mood no problem with no drugs or alcohol needed.
I have seen E, and a lot of other drugs ruin lives, some resulting in death. The responsible thing to do is not get involved in the first place. I know first hand this is not always able to be done as my best friend had 11 surgeries to fix a problem that came from a boating accident we were in. He took the pain killers after each surgery and had grown dependant on them and finally overdosed. The morning of the funeral his mother was found dead with a heart attack from the stress of her sons death. I had the fucking pleasure to explain to his wife and three kids how they are not going to be seeing their dad or grandmom again and why, since I was the closest to the family. Isn`t life great enough without taking drugs you don`t need to survive? Why risk the chance of addiction, arrest, and all the harm that can come with it when life is a natural high. And if life is not a natural high then maybe you need to focus on it and make it better so that you wake up every day wanting to see what the day has in store for you.
I will respect that your decisions are yours to make but if anyone on my friends list is into the drug scene then please delete us. Anyone we have met thru this site please do the same if this is what you enjoy. We have made the decision to enjoy life with a clear mind so we can truley enjoy the experiences with the people we meet and not the drugs we take.
I have seen E, and a lot of other drugs ruin lives, some resulting in death. The responsible thing to do is not get involved in the first place. I know first hand this is not always able to be done as my best friend had 11 surgeries to fix a problem that came from a boating accident we were in. He took the pain killers after each surgery and had grown dependant on them and finally overdosed. The morning of the funeral his mother was found dead with a heart attack from the stress of her sons death. I had the fucking pleasure to explain to his wife and three kids how they are not going to be seeing their dad or grandmom again and why, since I was the closest to the family. Isn`t life great enough without taking drugs you don`t need to survive? Why risk the chance of addiction, arrest, and all the harm that can come with it when life is a natural high. And if life is not a natural high then maybe you need to focus on it and make it better so that you wake up every day wanting to see what the day has in store for you.
I will respect that your decisions are yours to make but if anyone on my friends list is into the drug scene then please delete us. Anyone we have met thru this site please do the same if this is what you enjoy. We have made the decision to enjoy life with a clear mind so we can truley enjoy the experiences with the people we meet and not the drugs we take.
No one is saying they "need" anything. "E" is to enhance the sensation. Oh and I have seen <b>FOOD</b> ruin people's lives. Should we ban food?
How about cars, athletics, gambling, fishing, boating, skydiving, motorcycles...etc. They can all be harmful. It's an individual's choice!
Your choice to avoid those that do not share your view, is totally acceptable. Just as much as their will be those that avoid you for your choice to abstain. I think both parties will lose no sleep.
-D-
How about cars, athletics, gambling, fishing, boating, skydiving, motorcycles...etc. They can all be harmful. It's an individual's choice!
Your choice to avoid those that do not share your view, is totally acceptable. Just as much as their will be those that avoid you for your choice to abstain. I think both parties will lose no sleep.
-D-
I've played with these kinds of things and didn't like the effect they had on me nor did I like what they did to my friends. If you wanna partake in that sorta thing, it's your choice and I'm not gonna stop and/or lecture you. You're an adult and can make your own choices. We don't like to hang out with people under the influence of drugs. If you do them, that's fine, we don't wanna be offered more than once. (Ask me once if you don't already know that I don't do it, but I dislike the people that feel the need to try and pressure me into taking something because that's what they enjoy.) We also won't have sex with anyone under the influence of drugs. I don't even like to play with someone who's so drunk they're almost passed out. I prefer playing with someone I know is 100% sure of their choices and doesn't have anything in their system that might sway them in a direction they may or may not normally take. (If we already decided that's what we wanna do and then people take things and whatever and still wanna do it...that's different.) Anywho, that's my 2 cents if it made any sense to you at all. It made sense in MY head. :P
Thank you all for seeing the truth. In the end, it's a matter of individual choice, responsibility and consequence.
-D-
-D-
So................how is everybody doing this wonderful Sunday? I hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday weekend and having a few wonderful encounters. ;-) Have a great afternoon all!
R&S
R&S
I'll bet there are far less deaths attributed to "E" than alcohol.
Check this out. This is from the anti-drug campaigners. Even their numbers don't disagree.
Jeff, what you are saying is you don't drink, right???
Jeff, what you are saying is you don't drink, right???
Thanks Don, I knew if anyone understood it would be you. We were repeatedly invited to parties at a certain place not to far from where we live but it was known that drugs were a big part of the scene. Well, they got busted and run out of town but because we made the decision to stay away we remain with a clear record. I am sure they lost no sleep because we didn`t come party with them and I know we slept well knowing we did what made us feel best.
We meet a lot of people in the lifestyle but only surround ourselves with those that share some of our principals. Most important is no drugs in our house, no drama in our house. So when the people closest to us invite us to a party at their house we know it is in the environment we will enjoy with not risk of someone slipping something into our drink or any shit like that. Did I mention that my drug addiction started when a "friend" slipped something into my drink years ago. I would be an assshole to expose myself to idiots like that again so we take measures to ensure it does not happen.
And I did say "IF" the original posters Mrs. needs E to get in the mood. He never said she needed to take E so that is why I said IF she needed to. Let`s just say her mind is made up and she wants to screw someone but they decide to do it while on E, well that is their choice so at least the decision was made to have sex without the drugs influencing that decision.
As far as outlawing all the other stuff you mentioned we could go on for ever about that. I remember hearing of someone suing McDonalds because they got fat from eating there. Don`t know how that ever turned out but I would think that person just needs to accept responsibility for their mouth being open to much.
Bottom line is we made our feelings known and those that are closest to us feel the same. For anyone we do not yet know that reads this and thinks what an asshole they are and choose to not be friends with us...well we look at it like this. We were not friends to start so neither of us are losing a thing by not bothering with each other. Don, we have not met, are not on each others friends list, but we respect you for standing up for your beliefs wether they are the same as ours or not. We usually agree with what you say and enjoy reading your thoughts.
To the person that sent us a private e-mail about this, you are doing exactly what we are doing here in Florida. We respect you for your decisions too and wish we lived closer as well.
We meet a lot of people in the lifestyle but only surround ourselves with those that share some of our principals. Most important is no drugs in our house, no drama in our house. So when the people closest to us invite us to a party at their house we know it is in the environment we will enjoy with not risk of someone slipping something into our drink or any shit like that. Did I mention that my drug addiction started when a "friend" slipped something into my drink years ago. I would be an assshole to expose myself to idiots like that again so we take measures to ensure it does not happen.
And I did say "IF" the original posters Mrs. needs E to get in the mood. He never said she needed to take E so that is why I said IF she needed to. Let`s just say her mind is made up and she wants to screw someone but they decide to do it while on E, well that is their choice so at least the decision was made to have sex without the drugs influencing that decision.
As far as outlawing all the other stuff you mentioned we could go on for ever about that. I remember hearing of someone suing McDonalds because they got fat from eating there. Don`t know how that ever turned out but I would think that person just needs to accept responsibility for their mouth being open to much.
Bottom line is we made our feelings known and those that are closest to us feel the same. For anyone we do not yet know that reads this and thinks what an asshole they are and choose to not be friends with us...well we look at it like this. We were not friends to start so neither of us are losing a thing by not bothering with each other. Don, we have not met, are not on each others friends list, but we respect you for standing up for your beliefs wether they are the same as ours or not. We usually agree with what you say and enjoy reading your thoughts.
To the person that sent us a private e-mail about this, you are doing exactly what we are doing here in Florida. We respect you for your decisions too and wish we lived closer as well.
I am not trying to force my belief of drugs on anyone else. I am defending my right to choose. Most people that demonize drugs, drink alcohol. That is pure hypocrisy. Alcohol <u>is</u> a drug and a harmful one at that.
The truth is, that no matter how much you say bad about any drug and the problems they cause; these problems will exist regardless of their legality. You will always have to pay taxes for foster care of children from herion addict mothers. You will always have to pay for healthcare of those that are spiraling into the darkness. It doesn't matter if the law says no or not.
All prohibition does is create an even bigger taxation on the public by having to pay LEO's to find and erradicate all this crap being smuggled, having to pay the prison system to house all the users, having to fund all the other aspects of the losing "war on drugs". Prohibition puts control in the hands of the criminal.
-D-
The truth is, that no matter how much you say bad about any drug and the problems they cause; these problems will exist regardless of their legality. You will always have to pay taxes for foster care of children from herion addict mothers. You will always have to pay for healthcare of those that are spiraling into the darkness. It doesn't matter if the law says no or not.
All prohibition does is create an even bigger taxation on the public by having to pay LEO's to find and erradicate all this crap being smuggled, having to pay the prison system to house all the users, having to fund all the other aspects of the losing "war on drugs". Prohibition puts control in the hands of the criminal.
-D-
Yes, alot more people die from alcohol than E. Alot more people are dying now a days from perscription drugs than illegal ones. Everything in moderation! Its important to me to be in control of myself! My younger days of experimenting taught me that all too well. But I can have a few cocktails and still be myself, I could smoke pot, and not change. There are other things I could do that alter me in a way that i still feel in control in a controled environment. And there are things that I now know to stay away from. Isnt personal choice a spectacular thing!!??!! It sickens me that people can take "legal" drugs and play off like theyre any better than "illegal" ones! Realiise that they have made the perscribed ones to do and have the same effects as the others!
Mrs.....
Mrs.....
Jeff,
That decision works for you. :-) Many other people that partake in mind altering substances made a decision that works for them and with life comes those that don't make good decisions and they pay.
Again, just like driving. There are some that do it well, some that don't, some that die doing it and some, like you, that don't do it at all. It should be up to them. Oh and here is one of the many links.
http://www.drug-rehabs.org/con.php?cid=360&state
P.S.
Jeff you ever take a pain reliever? ;-)
That decision works for you. :-) Many other people that partake in mind altering substances made a decision that works for them and with life comes those that don't make good decisions and they pay.
Again, just like driving. There are some that do it well, some that don't, some that die doing it and some, like you, that don't do it at all. It should be up to them. Oh and here is one of the many links.
http://www.drug-rehabs.org/con.php?cid=360&state
P.S.
Jeff you ever take a pain reliever? ;-)
Technally, advil is a drug! Along with many other things im sure no one can say they havent tried.... Niquil, asprin, caffine.....
Jeff, you are for a world where you have no choice and you are made to do what is expected of you by society and nothing more. Your logic can be applied to every aspect of life to the point where individuality no longer exists. NO THANKS!
Oh and I don't buy that you don't take pain relievers. Even though you admitted it in your own words by saying they make you "gassy". Just like I know you've eaten desserts or got on a ride at an amusement park to induce an adrenaline response. You are not different than anyone else. You just don't want to admit that you can't justify prohibition.
-D-
Oh and I don't buy that you don't take pain relievers. Even though you admitted it in your own words by saying they make you "gassy". Just like I know you've eaten desserts or got on a ride at an amusement park to induce an adrenaline response. You are not different than anyone else. You just don't want to admit that you can't justify prohibition.
-D-
<font color="#4e6dab"><i>"I would just prefer to live in a world where I don
While I have chosen to kinda stay out of this one because of conflicting beliefs on my part, this just looks like too much fun, and I can't let Jeff and TR have it all. Sorry. While we choose to support drug enforcement, we don't always agree with the entire measure of it. A war on drugs is like the war on terrorism. It is too open ended, and cannot possible be achieved in every aspect. Anyone who thinks it can obviously has not had many life experiences outside the walls of parents home.
While Alcohol can be a nice thing to have around, I have not found were it has actually improved anyones life other than having a couple of drinks from time to time to wind down. Sort of like a mini vacation without the expense of traveling. TR, I don't believe that the ramped use of drugs can be compared to aspirin or other legal pain medication of it's kind, Jeff, I think that the idea that you can protect the one's you care about from being taken advantage of by using drug enforcement is a bit naive.
Instead; why don't we try to choose our friends wisely, and teach our children to do the same. After all, it will be hard to take advantage of those that are not at the party to begin with, while at the same time, having the good sense to know right from wrong, and reporting those that just choose to deviate from respecting others rights to choose will benefit the world greatly.
In essence, it comes down to respect, and this world would be alot better if more people not only understood the nature of it, but taught it to the next generation. I respect that some people like to play separate of one another, it's just not our cup of tea. If you plan to contact us, respect us enough to read our profile first or you may find we have lost respect for you.
While Alcohol can be a nice thing to have around, I have not found were it has actually improved anyones life other than having a couple of drinks from time to time to wind down. Sort of like a mini vacation without the expense of traveling. TR, I don't believe that the ramped use of drugs can be compared to aspirin or other legal pain medication of it's kind, Jeff, I think that the idea that you can protect the one's you care about from being taken advantage of by using drug enforcement is a bit naive.
Instead; why don't we try to choose our friends wisely, and teach our children to do the same. After all, it will be hard to take advantage of those that are not at the party to begin with, while at the same time, having the good sense to know right from wrong, and reporting those that just choose to deviate from respecting others rights to choose will benefit the world greatly.
In essence, it comes down to respect, and this world would be alot better if more people not only understood the nature of it, but taught it to the next generation. I respect that some people like to play separate of one another, it's just not our cup of tea. If you plan to contact us, respect us enough to read our profile first or you may find we have lost respect for you.
Jeff,
Yes, I have a daughter and a son. So, you are saying alcohol should also be outlawed right?
INSTANTFUNCPL02,
I take it you also support prohibiting alcohol, right? Do you drink? Drugs are drugs. Whether they are asprin or heroin. They are comparible. If you outlaw weed because it's dangerous, then you have to outlaw alcohol because it's even more dangerous. If you say, "you shouldn't need to take drugs to alter reality", then you shouldn't take asprin, because it alters reality. Stating that people take drugs to stifle pain, is no different than taking a vicodin for a pulled tooth. It's all the same. Choose what works best for you and makes you happy and let everyone else do the same for themselves.
-D-
Yes, I have a daughter and a son. So, you are saying alcohol should also be outlawed right?
INSTANTFUNCPL02,
I take it you also support prohibiting alcohol, right? Do you drink? Drugs are drugs. Whether they are asprin or heroin. They are comparible. If you outlaw weed because it's dangerous, then you have to outlaw alcohol because it's even more dangerous. If you say, "you shouldn't need to take drugs to alter reality", then you shouldn't take asprin, because it alters reality. Stating that people take drugs to stifle pain, is no different than taking a vicodin for a pulled tooth. It's all the same. Choose what works best for you and makes you happy and let everyone else do the same for themselves.
-D-
How is alcohol not similiar? It's highly addictive, can cause you physical harm, can alter your judgement and perception. Shall I go on? It just happens to be legal and regulated and defying your logic of what would become of society if we were to legalize other drugs. Holland also proves your logic to be wrong.
-D-
-D-
I know this thread started as "E", but how about the tidbit that Marijuana is legal for use in CA for medicinal purposes?
Please explain how they are not. Try telling me how Alcohol is not similar than Ecstacy. Don't just say they aren't similiar. How is ecstacy more "terrible" than alcohol?
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/causes.htm
Just thought you'd like a little perspective.
-D-
Just thought you'd like a little perspective.
-D-
I can tell you why I personally choose alcohol over E. I think they CAN be similar. They can give you similar feelings and whatnot. I think E does it to a larger/stronger extent. I personally don't enjoy the stronger version and that's why I don't do it anymore. 
I didn't intend on stirring up such a in depth conversation but one of the posts from t-rose here got me to thinking about it. JEFFINGERSAUL, I'm curious why you took this thread and threw it under your feet as a soap box? Your first response on this topic was an attack on me, why?? I didn't even ask you what you think about it, just if anyone uses it. I guess I fugured that my mom and dad wouldn't be in here giving me the run around about right and wrong. Which seems to be a pretty common theme in this forum. If someone disagrees, it's not an opinion anymore it seems like that opinion is the new law, and the person giving said opinion is the new sheriff sworn to enforce that law. So let's look at this chart below and see if any of you have done any of these things, but lived to tell the story. Let me know, I'll reply with my prompt judgement. Another interesting note i came across, Alcohol DT's are the only withdrawl that, in itself, can be fatal.
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Hell, I still don't know if anybody uses it.
Tobacco 435,000
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,000
Alcohol 85,000
Microbial Agents 75,000
Toxic Agents 55,000
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,347
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,000
Suicide 30,622
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,000
Homicide 20,308
Sexual Behaviors 20,000
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,000
Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,600
Hell, I still don't know if anybody uses it.
Kitty,
That depends on how much alcohol one consumes. You can drink alcohol to the point of blacking out.
Jeff,
Come on man. You made the statement. Now please provide why you think they're different.
That depends on how much alcohol one consumes. You can drink alcohol to the point of blacking out.
Jeff,
Come on man. You made the statement. Now please provide why you think they're different.
You are talking apples and basketballs. You can use alcohol to "explore someone's inhibitions". You're getting off track. Please, provide the difference you spoke of man. Don't elude the question! LOL!
Very true Don. I should've specified. My bad. I don't like drinking to the extent that I can't remember what I did during that time period either. That why I pick responsible/limited drinking over anything else. :P
That why I pick responsible/limited drinking over anything else. :PKitty,
That is my point with all intake of drugs. Did you see the link I provided.
Tobacco 435,0001
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,0001
Alcohol 85,000 1
Microbial Agents 75,0001
Toxic Agents 55,0001
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,3471
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,0002
Suicide 30,6223
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,0001
Homicide 20,3084
Sexual Behaviors 20,0001
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001, 5
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,6006
Marijuana 07
-D-
That is my point with all intake of drugs. Did you see the link I provided.
Tobacco 435,0001
Poor Diet and Physical Inactivity 365,0001
Alcohol 85,000 1
Microbial Agents 75,0001
Toxic Agents 55,0001
Motor Vehicle Crashes 26,3471
Adverse Reactions to Prescription Drugs 32,0002
Suicide 30,6223
Incidents Involving Firearms 29,0001
Homicide 20,3084
Sexual Behaviors 20,0001
All Illicit Drug Use, Direct and Indirect 17,0001, 5
Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs Such As Aspirin 7,6006
Marijuana 07
-D-
nice edit Jeff, lol
I checked out the link. I was just giving my personal opinion of why I drink but don't take drugs but sometimes drink. Everyone else is a big girl/boy and can do what they want. :P
Jeff,
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Alcohol+can+cause
There are thousands of links from those keywords alone. The statistics are much higher for alcohol deaths than Ecstacy deaths. Alcohol is a much worse drug. Now, in your position's defense, the numbers will be higher for alcohol because it is much more readily available. Which is a mark against E, but not marijuana. Marijuana is largely available and causes little to no deaths.
-D-
P.S. Here is a link from the very site you got your E information from:
http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/drug_guide/Alcohol
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Alcohol+can+cause
There are thousands of links from those keywords alone. The statistics are much higher for alcohol deaths than Ecstacy deaths. Alcohol is a much worse drug. Now, in your position's defense, the numbers will be higher for alcohol because it is much more readily available. Which is a mark against E, but not marijuana. Marijuana is largely available and causes little to no deaths.
-D-
P.S. Here is a link from the very site you got your E information from:
http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/drug_guide/Alcohol
SIN,
No one is saying you "should" do anything. All I am saying is do what you feel you want to do. Exercise your freedom.
Jeff,
you wrote:
"We could share statistical barbs ad nauseam; but like I said in the beginning: if you have to take a substance to enjoy life, then you're not really living it.
Drugs are dangerous, irresponsible and lame. "
<HR>
That is your choice. Now, allow others theirs.
-D-
No one is saying you "should" do anything. All I am saying is do what you feel you want to do. Exercise your freedom.
Jeff,
you wrote:
"We could share statistical barbs ad nauseam; but like I said in the beginning: if you have to take a substance to enjoy life, then you're not really living it.
Drugs are dangerous, irresponsible and lame. "
<HR>
That is your choice. Now, allow others theirs.
-D-
This prompted twice.
Jeff,
Duly noted. But the decision should still be mine.
-D-
Duly noted. But the decision should still be mine.
-D-
Hey TR, no, I did not say that I support drug enforcement in all it's content. There are more addictive things out there than weed and alcohol. Things within their limits are more of what I am proposing. Hell, weed is known to be non-addictive, unlike alcohol. I am saying that enforcement should be more along the lines of stopping abuse. You can drink, but can people go out and have 1 or 2 drinks and call it quits before they drive themselves home. Some can't, and those behaviors need to be corrected. Those behaviors lead to disrespect of my rights to drive safely down the road.
I don't smoke weed anymore, (Not since highschool) I do have 1 or 2 drinks whenever we go out. In Germany, I was an every night drunk, but I have the sense then to not drive. Heroin, crank, crack, meth, and even E, are made in our backyards. Can you outlaw these things, yes; but to no end. It will still always be available to those that choose to use it. I don't even have a problem with those that do, as long as they can do E without abuse. Since that is unlikely in cases involving heroin, crack, and other narcotics, I would suggest that it just not be used. Make your own choices, but step on my side of the block, and cause a problem as a result, people may not find me as open to the idea that they should be allowed to continue.
As far as "E" is concerned, if it can be done within it's limits, I don't have a problem with it's use. If it was made in a medical lab, and not in someone's basement, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. I do think that that would be unlikely though because we are part of a governmental system that would not profit by it's release.
Now, if you would really like to delve into our thoughts on the situation, bring your sexy asses over here. We promise "You" won't need the pill to experience the effects of ecstasy.
A toast, to Alcohol, for getting the ugly one laid since,. . . forever. You can't beat tradition.
I don't smoke weed anymore, (Not since highschool) I do have 1 or 2 drinks whenever we go out. In Germany, I was an every night drunk, but I have the sense then to not drive. Heroin, crank, crack, meth, and even E, are made in our backyards. Can you outlaw these things, yes; but to no end. It will still always be available to those that choose to use it. I don't even have a problem with those that do, as long as they can do E without abuse. Since that is unlikely in cases involving heroin, crack, and other narcotics, I would suggest that it just not be used. Make your own choices, but step on my side of the block, and cause a problem as a result, people may not find me as open to the idea that they should be allowed to continue.
As far as "E" is concerned, if it can be done within it's limits, I don't have a problem with it's use. If it was made in a medical lab, and not in someone's basement, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. I do think that that would be unlikely though because we are part of a governmental system that would not profit by it's release.
Now, if you would really like to delve into our thoughts on the situation, bring your sexy asses over here. We promise "You" won't need the pill to experience the effects of ecstasy.
A toast, to Alcohol, for getting the ugly one laid since,. . . forever. You can't beat tradition.
INSTANTFUNCPL02,
I agree that regulation should be in place. Just not prohibition. Prohibition doesn't work. It would definetly be cool to meet you guys. :-)
-D-
I agree that regulation should be in place. Just not prohibition. Prohibition doesn't work. It would definetly be cool to meet you guys. :-)
-D-
well were going to the party tonight! i took 3 cialis, anybody ever take more than that? iam getting worried that my boner might not go away.
Pitmommy: Huh?
Somehow, I am not suprised.
TG: exactly. i'm so confused. hahaha
Being careful is synonymous with being responsible.
It's all about intelligent and intuitive balance.
People are so quick to buy into what we're told is good and appropriate, if not moral for us to take into our bodies, forgetting the fact that there is alot of garbage, both addictive and not, that we consume daily.
Why not toss those that have an addiction to fats, starches, refined sugars, caffeine, Prozac, Xanax, Ibuprofen, nicotene, the so-called "energy" drinks, salt, white flour, or even adrenaline in with the obviously irresponsible "druggies" for their lack of self-control?
Come on...get real people.
Get off of your high-horses.
There are many ways to destroy our bodies, and over-indulgence in almost anything throws our entire systems out of balance, and has the propensity to be unhealthy.
It's all about intelligent and intuitive balance.
People are so quick to buy into what we're told is good and appropriate, if not moral for us to take into our bodies, forgetting the fact that there is alot of garbage, both addictive and not, that we consume daily.
Why not toss those that have an addiction to fats, starches, refined sugars, caffeine, Prozac, Xanax, Ibuprofen, nicotene, the so-called "energy" drinks, salt, white flour, or even adrenaline in with the obviously irresponsible "druggies" for their lack of self-control?
Come on...get real people.
Get off of your high-horses.
There are many ways to destroy our bodies, and over-indulgence in almost anything throws our entire systems out of balance, and has the propensity to be unhealthy.
TRYST42,
I bet you transported far more that have been affected by alcohol both directly and indirectly.
-D-
I bet you transported far more that have been affected by alcohol both directly and indirectly.
-D-
Like I said, if it was made in a medical lab, and not some dude's basement, we wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
And well put TR. That I can also agree with. You posted at the same time though.
but people that abuse the things that are available legally pay the price for their inability to control themselves. People that use X are not always abusing it when they pay the price.
And well put TR. That I can also agree with. You posted at the same time though.
but people that abuse the things that are available legally pay the price for their inability to control themselves. People that use X are not always abusing it when they pay the price.
Instant,
That's why it needs to be legalized. If it were legalized and regulated, you wouldn't get shit made by bathtub chemists. THANK YOU!
-D-
That's why it needs to be legalized. If it were legalized and regulated, you wouldn't get shit made by bathtub chemists. THANK YOU!
-D-
From the view point of a 16 year paramedic working in a busy ALS environment I have a few opinions.
420 is fine, just grow your own so you know it's content.
The holy trinity is divine, "Caffiene, Nicotine, Alcohol"
Shrooms are probably ok if you picked them yourself or someone you can truly trust did.
Meth is for fucking idiots
Extasy can ruin your life in one hit. E works on the "Pleasure Receptors" in the brain, it stimulates them in a way nothing else can, hence the appeal of it. However a rare, but instant and totally irreversible adverse effect can be the destruction of these same receptors. If this happens to you you have just become what is called an E-Tard in the prison system. After you have lost all abiliy to feel pleasure everything that reguates your social behaviour is gone, hne the reason most of them are if the system. So if you think E is worth the risk have at it.
I guess my opinion is that if it is organic "Grown from the earth" it is probably OK if you are sure of it's source.
If some fucktard could have brewed it up in his kithchen, bathtub, coffee pot or whatever else it is probably not a goo idea to put it in your body.
Just My 2 Cents Bob
420 is fine, just grow your own so you know it's content.
The holy trinity is divine, "Caffiene, Nicotine, Alcohol"
Shrooms are probably ok if you picked them yourself or someone you can truly trust did.
Meth is for fucking idiots
Extasy can ruin your life in one hit. E works on the "Pleasure Receptors" in the brain, it stimulates them in a way nothing else can, hence the appeal of it. However a rare, but instant and totally irreversible adverse effect can be the destruction of these same receptors. If this happens to you you have just become what is called an E-Tard in the prison system. After you have lost all abiliy to feel pleasure everything that reguates your social behaviour is gone, hne the reason most of them are if the system. So if you think E is worth the risk have at it.
I guess my opinion is that if it is organic "Grown from the earth" it is probably OK if you are sure of it's source.
If some fucktard could have brewed it up in his kithchen, bathtub, coffee pot or whatever else it is probably not a goo idea to put it in your body.
Just My 2 Cents Bob
TRYST: I was actually referring to the collective high-horse that many seem to be on when it comes to what we're "taught" is harmful and illegal to use.
IDCPL4FUN69,
There are alot of activities that can end you life easily. Drinking, driving, riding motorcycles, skydiving, crossing the street, rock climbing, skiing, full contact sports. etc. "E" deaths are actually uncommon to rare.
-D-
There are alot of activities that can end you life easily. Drinking, driving, riding motorcycles, skydiving, crossing the street, rock climbing, skiing, full contact sports. etc. "E" deaths are actually uncommon to rare.
-D-
Don,
Why do you have to hate on skiing man??? WTF
Or boarding...you are welcome Drew!!!
Why do you have to hate on skiing man??? WTF
Or boarding...you are welcome Drew!!!
having been a user and abuser and a non user all i can add is that i had less regretable fun without than with. What I mean is without the next morning no headache and no saying I did what. With I did some real stupid things and woke up in more than one new hospital, oh and i have the broken bones to prove it. no if you need to use to loosen up and lose your inahbitions to have fun then you are not being truthfull to your self, and want some one or something to blame incase it falls flat.
Koimoo,
Sounds like a really bad drunk on Alcohol. By that, I mean that had you taken an administered dose in a controlled environment, you'd be cool. These same "bad experiences" can happen with booze. Moderation and responsibilty are huge when consuming anything.
Sandycouple,
Fuck it all... I am on a fuckin role!!! MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
-D-
Sounds like a really bad drunk on Alcohol. By that, I mean that had you taken an administered dose in a controlled environment, you'd be cool. These same "bad experiences" can happen with booze. Moderation and responsibilty are huge when consuming anything.
Sandycouple,
Fuck it all... I am on a fuckin role!!! MWUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
-D-
anybody like to use this party drug to loosen up the nights activities?? I know it sure gets my MRS in the mood.
Again referring to the original post, no, we don`t like to use this drug to "loosen up".
One of our reasons, and the biggest is that last June 21st, a lady using alcohol to "loosen up" as she put it to the police, "in a private setting many hours before the accident" hit us from behind leaving me with permanent injuries. She died three months later from injuries she suffered in the accident. The police told us she thought she was being responsible and waited that long to drive so she would be able to make it home. Two traffic lights away from her gated subdivision is where she hit us and never made an attempt to stop. She pushed us thru a seven lane intersection and luckily nobody was coming thru when we were pushed thru it or we may have been t boned. "I never knew the light was there" was her response when the police asked her why she did not stop.
So she thought she was not overdoing it with booze, and thought she was in a controlled environment. My point is that it may have seemed to be controlled when they started but once in your system your judgement gets clouded and in the past I have felt like the effect is wearing off so I would do more to get back to the high I was at.
Just wondering who would decide how much E is the right dose for you. And what would be the definition of a controlled environment. I assume there would be one person not partying so they can be in charge of giving out the drugs and making sure nobody goes and gets into trouble while under the influence.
We make the mature decision to not do any drugs or alcohol so that we do not put our lives at risk and the lives of all of you. Rather then repeat the same thing over and over I would expect everyone to be thankfull that there is guaranteed one less person on the road driving under the influence because we have made the decision to enjoy life naturally. That was the response of the Distric Attorney when she told me they could not prosecute the lady because she passed away. " At least there is one less driver under the influence for us to worry about " was what we were told.
It is your body and your right to do to it what ever you want to as long as your decisions do not affect the rest of us. Make advance plans to be positive you are in a controlled environment. Seriously think it the high is worth taking the risk with your one and only life.
Again referring to the original post, no, we don`t like to use this drug to "loosen up".
One of our reasons, and the biggest is that last June 21st, a lady using alcohol to "loosen up" as she put it to the police, "in a private setting many hours before the accident" hit us from behind leaving me with permanent injuries. She died three months later from injuries she suffered in the accident. The police told us she thought she was being responsible and waited that long to drive so she would be able to make it home. Two traffic lights away from her gated subdivision is where she hit us and never made an attempt to stop. She pushed us thru a seven lane intersection and luckily nobody was coming thru when we were pushed thru it or we may have been t boned. "I never knew the light was there" was her response when the police asked her why she did not stop.
So she thought she was not overdoing it with booze, and thought she was in a controlled environment. My point is that it may have seemed to be controlled when they started but once in your system your judgement gets clouded and in the past I have felt like the effect is wearing off so I would do more to get back to the high I was at.
Just wondering who would decide how much E is the right dose for you. And what would be the definition of a controlled environment. I assume there would be one person not partying so they can be in charge of giving out the drugs and making sure nobody goes and gets into trouble while under the influence.
We make the mature decision to not do any drugs or alcohol so that we do not put our lives at risk and the lives of all of you. Rather then repeat the same thing over and over I would expect everyone to be thankfull that there is guaranteed one less person on the road driving under the influence because we have made the decision to enjoy life naturally. That was the response of the Distric Attorney when she told me they could not prosecute the lady because she passed away. " At least there is one less driver under the influence for us to worry about " was what we were told.
It is your body and your right to do to it what ever you want to as long as your decisions do not affect the rest of us. Make advance plans to be positive you are in a controlled environment. Seriously think it the high is worth taking the risk with your one and only life.
not all E is the same it depends on the seed crystal,
Totally fuck up your life for a little pleasure? You're kind of playing with fire being here... sorta smacks of irony. Anyway, that's a big generalization on my part, but so is what you're saying.
we have tried it before- We feel that extacy is fun, but shouldn't be the ONLY reason why you play. If you cant play without it, then something is not right. We feel that any drug is ok as long as it is not abused. Most of us drink, and its probably the worst drug of all!
A Little History Lesson of the drug called Ecstasy (also known as MDMA.)
MDMA was originally patented in 1913 by the German company Merck. It
MDMA was originally patented in 1913 by the German company Merck. It
We firmly believe that everyone should have the right to choose. People should be able to do whatever they want with their own lives. It's funny because people do look down on swinging or swingers yet we all meet here, exercising our right to choose our own lifestyle. Why should it be different with anything else ???? Swinging irresponsibly is very dangerous and can lead to stds that can ultimately end in death. Its quite possible that something may occur even if you thought you were playing it safe. Same with drugs ,they can be risky as well, and there isn't anyway to safeproof yourselves 100%. I think that everyone should just go on living their lives the way they see fit and not judge anyone else for the way they choose to live theirs.
Mrs. Crunk
Mrs. Crunk
QUEENOFCRUNKXXX, we couldn't agree more. Very well said.
R&S
R&S
When I was in College about 12 years or so ago, I wrote a paper for one of my Philosophy classes on how to create a more perfect society. One of the basic tenets that I put out there, after we got rid of the outdated concept of "Nationalism", was to make drug use legal but in a controlled environment.
The controlled environment would consist of "drug safe zones". In these areas, no one would be allowed to drive their own vehicles or be able to leave until they were declared sober by a qualified medical person. The taxation of the drugs within these areas would be more than sufficient to pay for the necessary support personell, (of course by not having to pay for all the national militaries there would also be a huge surplus of funds and other supplies).
There are numerous studies out there proving both sides of the drug arguments, there are even studies out there used by both sides to prove their respective arguments. So I won't bore anyone with a regurtitation of some supposed fact. I know that I won't put anything in my body that I can't trust what was put in it.
Any substance can be abused, from the food we eat to the medicines we take when we are ill. We all have to make the choice for ourselves what we put into our bodies. For me that will never include ANY drug that was cooked up in someone's basement, bathroom or other uncontrolled environment. (Yes TR that even includes alcohol, I will never drink someone's moonshine. No matter how much I know the maker and the process.)
Just my thoughts.
The controlled environment would consist of "drug safe zones". In these areas, no one would be allowed to drive their own vehicles or be able to leave until they were declared sober by a qualified medical person. The taxation of the drugs within these areas would be more than sufficient to pay for the necessary support personell, (of course by not having to pay for all the national militaries there would also be a huge surplus of funds and other supplies).
There are numerous studies out there proving both sides of the drug arguments, there are even studies out there used by both sides to prove their respective arguments. So I won't bore anyone with a regurtitation of some supposed fact. I know that I won't put anything in my body that I can't trust what was put in it.
Any substance can be abused, from the food we eat to the medicines we take when we are ill. We all have to make the choice for ourselves what we put into our bodies. For me that will never include ANY drug that was cooked up in someone's basement, bathroom or other uncontrolled environment. (Yes TR that even includes alcohol, I will never drink someone's moonshine. No matter how much I know the maker and the process.)
Just my thoughts.
GOLDENHANDZ77,
That is your choice. However, some people <u>will</u> drink moonshine. ;-)
-D-
That is your choice. However, some people <u>will</u> drink moonshine. ;-)
-D-