As I've been pondering all the intriguing aspects of this new world we are entering, something doesn't mesh in my mind.
We live in a nation where billions (at least multi-millions) are spent daily to advertise drugs. This is done because it enables the drug companies to make multi-billions selling drugs. You can get prescription drugs for everything from your pecker to your severe depression about your pecker! And this is only the legal/prescription drug industry - I imagine the illegal drug business is even bigger. Just exactly where do all these drugs go? I suppose a lot are consumed by folks who have minimal concerns about engaging in high risk activities? Hmmm..... swingers?nah? Fact is the math would indicate that there is a lot more coursing through the veins of just about everyone we encounter than just the good ol redwhite&blue!
Same goes for disease. I don't believe the existence of most of it is caused by long-term monogamous relationships. When you are only as safe as the very last physical contact you have and you deal in a world of relative strangers, well, you get the picture.
I hope these are not interpreted to be negative comments. I truly am just trying to figure out the mentality of the profiles I read. It strikes me the whole "d&d free" thing is either a formality/some sort of cover-your-ass disclaimer or just people kidding themselves.
We live in a nation where billions (at least multi-millions) are spent daily to advertise drugs. This is done because it enables the drug companies to make multi-billions selling drugs. You can get prescription drugs for everything from your pecker to your severe depression about your pecker! And this is only the legal/prescription drug industry - I imagine the illegal drug business is even bigger. Just exactly where do all these drugs go? I suppose a lot are consumed by folks who have minimal concerns about engaging in high risk activities? Hmmm..... swingers?nah? Fact is the math would indicate that there is a lot more coursing through the veins of just about everyone we encounter than just the good ol redwhite&blue!
Same goes for disease. I don't believe the existence of most of it is caused by long-term monogamous relationships. When you are only as safe as the very last physical contact you have and you deal in a world of relative strangers, well, you get the picture.
I hope these are not interpreted to be negative comments. I truly am just trying to figure out the mentality of the profiles I read. It strikes me the whole "d&d free" thing is either a formality/some sort of cover-your-ass disclaimer or just people kidding themselves.
chrke2..and all who are curious.... I, Us, as well as alot of others agree with your post and see the relevancy... but u breached a couple points conected but seperate... the "D&D Free" statment are synonomous (is that a word???)... we feel the d&d free statment is in general to state that "hey i dont hang around in the slums in shooting galleries sharing needles and picking up blood borne diseases from god knows who".... in the extreme sence thats what it could be interepetated to mean... in the real world...that most of us live in, the statment "D&D free" means we take care of ourselves and dont introduce foreighn mood altering substances into our bodies.. and we want to live a long healthy life thus we only sleep (i dont know why its termed as sleep... usually there is verry little sleep going on...) with people who like us want to live long and be healthy so its unspoken but we know alot if not everyone thinks of it at times.. "god i hope they dont have anything that we catch from them.... " lets annalise the first "D" in the statment... its a miss-statment on 99.9% of profiles.. We have met a small few that are totally drug free... the widest mood altering drug used in the world is..... Meth?, weed?, Pills?, Coke??? no its a legal drug and utah even sets up special tax stores to sell it... u guessed it alcahol.... we personally dont have a problem with those who need to step outside and smoke a bowl even tho we dont partake...... but who is to say where the line is as to what "Drugs", "mood altering substances" is ok or acceptable to partake of and still claim and use the first "D" on your profile... Speaking for us the first "D" basically means.. Hey i have all my original teeth (or havent lost any from use of a substance out of the realm of natural causes).
As for the second "D" disease... mmmm thats even more of a taboo area that people seem to avoid talking about but is in the back ..(if not farther foreward) of peoples minds especially in the swinging comunity... we all hope that we stay disease free... ill be the first to admit... i have had a problem in the past... in 1990 i had a case of the creepy crawly crustacions (sp).... better known as "Crabs"...(as a result of sticking my thingy in a place where it didnt belong....but hey all the guys i worked with got them even the boss, on the same night from the same female...whom we all worked with... after that she was refered to as "nasty nancy" not from what she did but because she made us all itch..... ) had to do some serious explaining to my wife at the time.... was a verry heavily "drug" (alcahol) induced night of interesting proportions.... but inny-who back on track... of the second "D".. to us it meant that hopefully people are honest and wont claim the second "D" on their profile if they have something un-natural.....that can cause illness, burning , itching and or eventually death in a round about way... we like to take people at face value and place hope and faith in the people we play with... basicaly if that they have something then they wouldnt play untail they have the situation taken care of... but what scares us as well as many of u out there... what about those whom arent aware that they aren't naturally healthy.... because as well as most of u know there are things out there that hide and lurke tucked away for years before manifesting its-self.... thats the one that scares us... its a conglomerate of letters that is seldom mentioned and looked at as the plauge... so ill say...(well type) it.. i personally are tested for H.I.V and hep on a regular basis for work reasons (those of u who know us n what i do understand) and since i have always came back negative it'd be a fair assumption to say sara is free of disease also... (hello mc fly, if i had something so would sara... we do after all exchange bodily fluids.....eeewwwwww (we watched demolition man last night...)... but on the more serious side.. umm we like to place faith in humanity and trust peoples... (ill get into that subject in a few), the scenerios that scare us is the person(S) that arent aware they have something... even tho i am tested every 6 mo... and we are selective and in a six mo. period on average have only 4-5 cpls that we interact with... but if a cpl we "interact" with oh hell ill say it... but if a cpl we fuck, hapens to pass something to us... the reprocussions could be shocking how fast it could circulate......our 4-5 cpls... they each have 4-5 and so on..and so on... but thats a area alot think about but verry few talk about......so the second "D" should stand for "Disease free as far as our last test says so"......
Back to the trust and faith in humanity.... we take people at face value but we have been lied to... decieved... and basically fucked over n not kissed, in the past..... as we r sure alot of u have... we recently found out we were decieved ...not lied to... well lied too by omission... we have known a couple for 5 or so years... always assumed (there is that word) they were married... found out they just lived together... till they split up a few weeks ago..... we have also been lied to... and told we are married... and come to find out they are just another couple just living together.... Not that we really care... wether they are married, living together or just a couple that swing together wether it be for safety, or to have a better chance as a cpl than single female.. and ill say it "single male"... makes u wonder if they lie or decieve us about something that we really could care less about (but brought the subject up out of curiosity) makes us wonder what else they would lie or discieve us and any of u about.... sorry about the book and the typos... been a long morning since 3am.... hasta, play safe and "trust " people... LOL.... dennis and sara
As for the second "D" disease... mmmm thats even more of a taboo area that people seem to avoid talking about but is in the back ..(if not farther foreward) of peoples minds especially in the swinging comunity... we all hope that we stay disease free... ill be the first to admit... i have had a problem in the past... in 1990 i had a case of the creepy crawly crustacions (sp).... better known as "Crabs"...(as a result of sticking my thingy in a place where it didnt belong....but hey all the guys i worked with got them even the boss, on the same night from the same female...whom we all worked with... after that she was refered to as "nasty nancy" not from what she did but because she made us all itch..... ) had to do some serious explaining to my wife at the time.... was a verry heavily "drug" (alcahol) induced night of interesting proportions.... but inny-who back on track... of the second "D".. to us it meant that hopefully people are honest and wont claim the second "D" on their profile if they have something un-natural.....that can cause illness, burning , itching and or eventually death in a round about way... we like to take people at face value and place hope and faith in the people we play with... basicaly if that they have something then they wouldnt play untail they have the situation taken care of... but what scares us as well as many of u out there... what about those whom arent aware that they aren't naturally healthy.... because as well as most of u know there are things out there that hide and lurke tucked away for years before manifesting its-self.... thats the one that scares us... its a conglomerate of letters that is seldom mentioned and looked at as the plauge... so ill say...(well type) it.. i personally are tested for H.I.V and hep on a regular basis for work reasons (those of u who know us n what i do understand) and since i have always came back negative it'd be a fair assumption to say sara is free of disease also... (hello mc fly, if i had something so would sara... we do after all exchange bodily fluids.....eeewwwwww (we watched demolition man last night...)... but on the more serious side.. umm we like to place faith in humanity and trust peoples... (ill get into that subject in a few), the scenerios that scare us is the person(S) that arent aware they have something... even tho i am tested every 6 mo... and we are selective and in a six mo. period on average have only 4-5 cpls that we interact with... but if a cpl we "interact" with oh hell ill say it... but if a cpl we fuck, hapens to pass something to us... the reprocussions could be shocking how fast it could circulate......our 4-5 cpls... they each have 4-5 and so on..and so on... but thats a area alot think about but verry few talk about......so the second "D" should stand for "Disease free as far as our last test says so"......
Back to the trust and faith in humanity.... we take people at face value but we have been lied to... decieved... and basically fucked over n not kissed, in the past..... as we r sure alot of u have... we recently found out we were decieved ...not lied to... well lied too by omission... we have known a couple for 5 or so years... always assumed (there is that word) they were married... found out they just lived together... till they split up a few weeks ago..... we have also been lied to... and told we are married... and come to find out they are just another couple just living together.... Not that we really care... wether they are married, living together or just a couple that swing together wether it be for safety, or to have a better chance as a cpl than single female.. and ill say it "single male"... makes u wonder if they lie or decieve us about something that we really could care less about (but brought the subject up out of curiosity) makes us wonder what else they would lie or discieve us and any of u about.... sorry about the book and the typos... been a long morning since 3am.... hasta, play safe and "trust " people... LOL.... dennis and sara
D&D = Drugs and Disease means
Drugs part: No mind altering drugs, hard drugs as in illegal, no designer drugs that have not been made illegal yet....
Disease: No STD's.. There are quite a few people who have diseases that are safe for a play partner... One cannot catch heart problems. One cannot catch diabetes. Herpies/HSV, HPV, syphilis, gonereah(sp) are just a few of the things that the disease "D" stands for.
Rx drugs are not included unless they are for mental problems which could lead to violence or other distress like suiside.....
As for your last encounter.... You are absolutely right... and drug testing may very well miss the last encounter...So I guess the point is either one accepts the risks and or goes safer sex route or one tosses caution to the wind and goes bareback or one choses to not play and the lifestyle is not a good thing. The lifestyle is all about choices.... D&D is a concept that one should assume the worse about disease and go from there, either to assume the risk or to get out..
Ray
Drugs part: No mind altering drugs, hard drugs as in illegal, no designer drugs that have not been made illegal yet....
Disease: No STD's.. There are quite a few people who have diseases that are safe for a play partner... One cannot catch heart problems. One cannot catch diabetes. Herpies/HSV, HPV, syphilis, gonereah(sp) are just a few of the things that the disease "D" stands for.
Rx drugs are not included unless they are for mental problems which could lead to violence or other distress like suiside.....
As for your last encounter.... You are absolutely right... and drug testing may very well miss the last encounter...So I guess the point is either one accepts the risks and or goes safer sex route or one tosses caution to the wind and goes bareback or one choses to not play and the lifestyle is not a good thing. The lifestyle is all about choices.... D&D is a concept that one should assume the worse about disease and go from there, either to assume the risk or to get out..
Ray