Wondering how many men want their wives to list as Bi and for them to list as straight?
And how many wives would like to see their men in a bi party?
And how many wives would like to see their men in a bi party?
Well I can't speak for the wife side but I know this topic has been discussed from time to time in the past. I know from experience in this group that there are MANY more men here that are either bi or have bi tendencies then actually list it in their profiles. Most do it because they believe that by listing themselves as bi, it will exclude them from all the straight fun out there. It's disappointing that in this day and age and especially in this type of community, that we still discriminate against those with multiple sexual preferences. It's widely accepted that a woman can be bi but when a man is bi, it's a totally different story....
We are both bisexual, and we have no problem listing it. There is a stereotype for bisexual men, that we are unsafe and don't play responsibly, and that is so untrue. I can play str8 or bi, we just prefer to meet couples that are both bisexual, so we all can have fun together.
If it keeps str8 couples from contacting us, or talking to us, then so be it. We are a true couple, and love to meet new people, str8 or bi. We feel that being up front with people we meet is the best policy.
That being said, any couples near the Tampa Bay area want to chat, and play?
Ron & Chrissy
If it keeps str8 couples from contacting us, or talking to us, then so be it. We are a true couple, and love to meet new people, str8 or bi. We feel that being up front with people we meet is the best policy.
That being said, any couples near the Tampa Bay area want to chat, and play?
Ron & Chrissy
NO WAY!!!! You may sneak up behind me and rape me!!! (tongue firmly in cheek)
We would play with a bi guy...No worries...Tell him I am NOT into it right up front...Expect him to respect that...and go about our business...
We would play with a bi guy...No worries...Tell him I am NOT into it right up front...Expect him to respect that...and go about our business...
The bi thing is very true. We all want the female to be bi or at the least bi-curious, but there is a taboo about men. I have changed my listing on here from straight to bi-curious and back to straight again. It is amazing how the contacts change also. I have done oral and had oral done to me. Does that make me different? I can be straight or bi orally as the situation requires. We have a philosophy that, as long as we are all having fun, get taking care of completly, do not really care what lips belong to whom. We all have limits, and that is what makes us all different, not bad, just different.
Gary, the other half.
Gary, the other half.
Nope, honesty is the best policy here. We are both straight but are not put off by a bi person just so as we all respect each others preferences and limitations. Some of our best friends are both bi and we make it known to our new friends that if they want to be close friends of ours then they need to accept others as they are just like we do.
We like each other just as we are but know if the wife was listed as bi it would get us even more contacts but if it is not what SHE wants then we will work with what we have. She feels the same toward me and would support me completely if I decided I was bi someday.
We like each other just as we are but know if the wife was listed as bi it would get us even more contacts but if it is not what SHE wants then we will work with what we have. She feels the same toward me and would support me completely if I decided I was bi someday.
I love being with a couple where I can enjoy them both....
and I also enjoy being with a couple where I'm the added guy for her if it's a straight couple
would love to meet a single woman too
so I'm versatile... and enjoy playing
love to hear from interested couples or ladies
and I also enjoy being with a couple where I'm the added guy for her if it's a straight couple
would love to meet a single woman too
so I'm versatile... and enjoy playing
love to hear from interested couples or ladies
Ron & Chrissy, we are near Tampa Bay (We live on a double wide trailer converted to a house boat) and we appreciate you being up front which saves lots of time. We don't have have problem with male bi-sexuality but it's not our cup of tea. (What ever floats your house boat)
We are looking for a couple who's into Piquerism.
We are looking for a couple who's into Piquerism.
we are both bi , and let me tell you it is very hard to find couple,and we now y it is because we a bi, and most of the other couple do not feel comfortable whit it
they think that we the male , will automatiquely jump on the other male lollllll
it is not true ,it is like a women hoo is bi does not jump on the other women wen shee see her no
they think that we the male , will automatiquely jump on the other male lollllll
it is not true ,it is like a women hoo is bi does not jump on the other women wen shee see her no
I applaude each of you couples (and singles) who list themselves as bi and are up front about it. I find it interesting however that most of the replies in this particular forum are from Florida. I'm guessing that is likely the big cultural differences between the Mormon state and the Sunshine state (and likely so from any area that is very heavy into the religious viewpoints). It would be interesting to see some replies from Utah on this forum. I know there are several couples here on the site that I have personally met and had fun with, so I know they are out there...
Problem with being honest is that sometimes it is inconvenient. In our case, we don't really hang around a gang so it is ok. OTOH, if you are in a group, it could be difficult. For example, if we are a couple in a large group and we meet at socials, go bowling on Wed nights, etc, etc and one of the group found out we played with a couple where the guy was bi, what do you think happens? We might lose all the good times, etc, etc. So, we would have to ask ourselves if it is worth it. That may be what makes it hard for couples to list themselves as bi or play with an openly bi couple. Just a theory.
Aklim, kinda like guilt buy association isn`t it.
Well, Utah does has one of the highest if not the highest population of gays per capita. So we know there are a lot of bi-men here. But this is still a very conservative state and they like to keep things under wraps. We've found in most religious societies there are large groups who push away or break away from what is socially acceptable in that area. In rural Utah there are some towns that are 100% Mormon, yet in Salt Lake City the numbers are less. I thinks its 65% non Mormon to 35% Mormon. Our profile name is bi-couple, but I (male) am not attracted to men, but to the Transgender. I am more attracted to Feminine energy that the Transgender carries not the Masculine energy of men. We believe that there are three sexes, male, female, transgender. Yes that means that a person could be Tri-sexual. We are a very,very open couple and consider ourselves to be more Polyamorous, than swingers. But we respect all sexualities and lifestyle choices.
FL4FUN, We had to look up Piquerism
This is a term we have never heard of.
Here is the meaning for anyone interested:
Piquerism or picquerism (from the French piquer - "to prick") is a paraphilia in which one finds pleasure in stabbing or cutting bodies with sharp objects. It is a form of sadomasochism. The most frequently targeted areas of the body are the breasts, buttocks, or groin.
Is this something a lot of people are into?
This is a term we have never heard of.
Here is the meaning for anyone interested:
Piquerism or picquerism (from the French piquer - "to prick") is a paraphilia in which one finds pleasure in stabbing or cutting bodies with sharp objects. It is a form of sadomasochism. The most frequently targeted areas of the body are the breasts, buttocks, or groin.
Is this something a lot of people are into?
Posted By: NPNUDISTCPLE Reply posted on:
Feb 10, 2008 - 8:06 pm
Aklim, kinda like guilt buy association isn`t it.
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Sure it is. Talked to one of my friends about seeing some guy blow the guy of a couple in the orgy room. They immediately wanted to know who it was. I just said ti was dark and I can't remember. Asked why and here was the answer. "Well, if he says he is bi curious, he is actually bi. He probably goes to gay bars and tries to hook up with anyone he can. Bet they do it 3 times a night at lest. Prety soon, you have HIV and other undesirable diseases." These aren't grade school dropouts. They are college educated people and they behave like that.
Feb 10, 2008 - 8:06 pm
Aklim, kinda like guilt buy association isn`t it.
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Sure it is. Talked to one of my friends about seeing some guy blow the guy of a couple in the orgy room. They immediately wanted to know who it was. I just said ti was dark and I can't remember. Asked why and here was the answer. "Well, if he says he is bi curious, he is actually bi. He probably goes to gay bars and tries to hook up with anyone he can. Bet they do it 3 times a night at lest. Prety soon, you have HIV and other undesirable diseases." These aren't grade school dropouts. They are college educated people and they behave like that.
Piquerism can be an interesting fetish if done correctly and safely.
As for multiple genders, I agree with Bi-couple. It is also becoming a widely accepted fact that Bisexuality is an orientation unto itself.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080117.wlbisexual17/BNStory/lifeFamily/home
I, for one, believe that as a fact. I know from a lot of conversation with friends, interviews for articles I've written and research that the greater majority of us don't chose our orientation. That includes Gays, Straight and Bisexual.
Curiosity? Well, most of us fall into that category. From the research I've done (which is a lot, by the way), a good number of "gay bashers" or "bi bashers" are simply the curious in denial - fighting an upbringing or feelings of guilt that are in conflict with their own urges.
Funky, eh?
-K_T
As for multiple genders, I agree with Bi-couple. It is also becoming a widely accepted fact that Bisexuality is an orientation unto itself.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080117.wlbisexual17/BNStory/lifeFamily/home
I, for one, believe that as a fact. I know from a lot of conversation with friends, interviews for articles I've written and research that the greater majority of us don't chose our orientation. That includes Gays, Straight and Bisexual.
Curiosity? Well, most of us fall into that category. From the research I've done (which is a lot, by the way), a good number of "gay bashers" or "bi bashers" are simply the curious in denial - fighting an upbringing or feelings of guilt that are in conflict with their own urges.
Funky, eh?
-K_T
K_T, I agree completely with you about the gay and bi basher's. Most have strong urges to explore their own gay or bi curiosity yet are afraid and ashamed to admit that they also have these types of desires. So they act it out to protect their desires from coming up to the surface. The reason why we started to hold parties in our basement 5 years ago was to have a space for everyone to come together and explore there sexual desires. ALL sexual desires. In the year to come we plan on branching out our sexual party pallet and hosting different types of parties that will include a wider range of sexual fetishes maybe hold a bi-couple party!
I've been to one of your parties. It was awesome and the energy was unlike most I've attended!
Ms. K_T has not been to one and would be over joyed.
We've been thinking of doing much the same. Small groups with open minds and a willingness to see, experience and participate in activities not normally seen in the "normal" (or as we call it "Vanilla") Swing community. Being that we have a strong "kink" factor, we get some requests in that area.
Back to topic, I have friends in the gay community who are constantly (and I mean CONSTANTLY) approached by straight men (married, religious, high profile, etc.) for sex. Many swear they've never done this before, but most return or make the rounds from man to man.
If there weren't just so damn many threats on this site or other sites towards Bi men? You'd see more crop up.
Another interesting fact? Our kids, by and large? Could care less about sexuality. A good number of them experiment with bisexuality - male and female. My daughter is very open with with me and this topic has come up before. Look at what they watch on VH1, MTV.
Do I care? Nope. I simply discuss it with her, how to protect herself and be safe. I'd almost rather she be lesbian at this age than Heterosexual! The risk of pregnancy is MUCH lower...heheh.
Ms. K_T has not been to one and would be over joyed.
We've been thinking of doing much the same. Small groups with open minds and a willingness to see, experience and participate in activities not normally seen in the "normal" (or as we call it "Vanilla") Swing community. Being that we have a strong "kink" factor, we get some requests in that area.
Back to topic, I have friends in the gay community who are constantly (and I mean CONSTANTLY) approached by straight men (married, religious, high profile, etc.) for sex. Many swear they've never done this before, but most return or make the rounds from man to man.
If there weren't just so damn many threats on this site or other sites towards Bi men? You'd see more crop up.
Another interesting fact? Our kids, by and large? Could care less about sexuality. A good number of them experiment with bisexuality - male and female. My daughter is very open with with me and this topic has come up before. Look at what they watch on VH1, MTV.
Do I care? Nope. I simply discuss it with her, how to protect herself and be safe. I'd almost rather she be lesbian at this age than Heterosexual! The risk of pregnancy is MUCH lower...heheh.
Bi_Couple - Good for you for thinking of hosting a gathering that caters to EVERYONE! There are not many out there like you so you are one in a million.
K_T, you bring up some fantastic points and it's very obvious that you are quite well read on the subject. Being the 'tri' in trisexual as Bi_couple put it, I can't begin to tell you how refreshing it is to find people in Utah that are so knowledgeable on the subject and not put off by it. I did some quick reading on bi-sexuality this morning and I find it intersting that many species in the animal kingdom are predeominantly bi-sexual rather than hetrosexual. Many species actually switch back and forth depending on mating seasons. In fact, one study found that both sexes of the bonobo chimpanzees are 100% bi-sexual!
I know some of that was boring statistic but I found it very interesting and thought it worth sharing. I'll leave you all this morning with a quote from George Carlin speaking about bisexuality during one of his comedy routines: "Could you imagine wanting to fuck everybody you meet? Think of all the phone numbers you'd accumulate! You might as well just walk around with the White Pages under your arms."
K_T, you bring up some fantastic points and it's very obvious that you are quite well read on the subject. Being the 'tri' in trisexual as Bi_couple put it, I can't begin to tell you how refreshing it is to find people in Utah that are so knowledgeable on the subject and not put off by it. I did some quick reading on bi-sexuality this morning and I find it intersting that many species in the animal kingdom are predeominantly bi-sexual rather than hetrosexual. Many species actually switch back and forth depending on mating seasons. In fact, one study found that both sexes of the bonobo chimpanzees are 100% bi-sexual!
I know some of that was boring statistic but I found it very interesting and thought it worth sharing. I'll leave you all this morning with a quote from George Carlin speaking about bisexuality during one of his comedy routines: "Could you imagine wanting to fuck everybody you meet? Think of all the phone numbers you'd accumulate! You might as well just walk around with the White Pages under your arms."
I had an experience with another man about 24 years ago and although I felt really odd and pretty much in denial, I did like it but haven't done it again.
In recent years I have decided that I am quite bi although not experienced. The assignment of curious might suggest no experience but I feel I would like it very much and not just oral.
I enjoy using butt plugs and toys and would love to have a partner to use a strap-on. I want a little more than her finger up my ass, it's that prostate sensation that I like.
A long-standing fantasy of mine was to be a live-in sex slave for a couple. Here I would like to say that I'm not particularly interested in meeting with men only but would love to deal with a couple or even a party. Let this in no way suggest that I am gay, I do like the women a lot and I do mean a lot!
I would certainly be willing to use condoms and although HIV is one of the most feared, there are other STD's that people need to be aware of that condoms don't protect against for example, HSV. Even though living a life of celibacy is not an option for me.
In any event, I would be totally respectful of the desires and wishes of others and as I am considerate of others and not pushy I feel I could have a great time with people.
In recent years I have decided that I am quite bi although not experienced. The assignment of curious might suggest no experience but I feel I would like it very much and not just oral.
I enjoy using butt plugs and toys and would love to have a partner to use a strap-on. I want a little more than her finger up my ass, it's that prostate sensation that I like.
A long-standing fantasy of mine was to be a live-in sex slave for a couple. Here I would like to say that I'm not particularly interested in meeting with men only but would love to deal with a couple or even a party. Let this in no way suggest that I am gay, I do like the women a lot and I do mean a lot!
I would certainly be willing to use condoms and although HIV is one of the most feared, there are other STD's that people need to be aware of that condoms don't protect against for example, HSV. Even though living a life of celibacy is not an option for me.
In any event, I would be totally respectful of the desires and wishes of others and as I am considerate of others and not pushy I feel I could have a great time with people.
Hmmm.
I'm sorry to say this, but disease isn't a valid excuse for not admitting your Bi or for being a homophobe or wary of bisexuals. Someone who wants to be dishonest about disease *will* be dishonest about disease regardless of their orientation.
People don't disclose orientation out of fear. Plain and simple. There really isn't any other reason. Look through the forums, you'll see the reasons why they're afraid.
I'm sorry to say this, but disease isn't a valid excuse for not admitting your Bi or for being a homophobe or wary of bisexuals. Someone who wants to be dishonest about disease *will* be dishonest about disease regardless of their orientation.
People don't disclose orientation out of fear. Plain and simple. There really isn't any other reason. Look through the forums, you'll see the reasons why they're afraid.
No offense taken at all. I've just been at many parties where the Bi (and gay) bashing has been shockingly violent. I also have to shake my head because I know that many women list themselves as Bi or Bi-curious simply because they feel reverse pressure...if they're straight, they may get overlooked.
It's an odd double standard we put on each other.
One simple answer to the STD dilemma, straight or Bi? Get tested...regularly. We do.
It's an odd double standard we put on each other.
One simple answer to the STD dilemma, straight or Bi? Get tested...regularly. We do.
I don't think it is STDs so much as the fear of rejection. I think it is more a fear that "If I list myself as bi, other couples won't want to play with us."
I would like to say that I probably had no business in this forum as I am single but I felt I could contribute some viewpoint on the bi situation. I would like to point out that I am familiar with STDs and that there is a certain group that is more "infected" than others. As well I would like to point out that I am not running to jump into the "gay" pool.
What I would like to say is that while people may have a curiosity that doesn't mean they are privately freaks in the gay community. I will not deal with gays because I like the women and I am not interested in hooking-up with a man only. With this I would like to suggest "bi interest" where it is not a requirement but an option for men.
What I would like to say is that while people may have a curiosity that doesn't mean they are privately freaks in the gay community. I will not deal with gays because I like the women and I am not interested in hooking-up with a man only. With this I would like to suggest "bi interest" where it is not a requirement but an option for men.
WOW did I start this tread with two letter's? What great imfo you al have given. Thanks Lynn
According to friends of ours, Aklim hit the nail on the head. I am sure there are other reasons but fear of rejection is a big number one from what we are told. Just one more way we judge people in our society.
I have had friends I told that I saw some guy giving the guy of another couple a BJ. Suddenly they want to know who it is. Why? So they can avoid him. If he says he is bi curious, he probably is bi. Therefore, he must be cruising the gay bars and hitting on every guy he sees. He probably does drugs and shoots it up his arm. Well you get the picture.
AKLIM69, it would seem that so many think that way and that they are the ones that shout the loudest.
To anyone who reads this, I am not interested in hanging out at gay bars or contacting single males. I consider myself heterosexual first, that is I would consider marriage if I met a woman that I liked. I'm not interested in marrying a man, living with a man as a lover or anything else that suggests gay!
To anyone who reads this, I am not interested in hanging out at gay bars or contacting single males. I consider myself heterosexual first, that is I would consider marriage if I met a woman that I liked. I'm not interested in marrying a man, living with a man as a lover or anything else that suggests gay!
Well after looking things over, (my profile) I have come to the conclusion that I missed something, the seek listing... "Single Males, Single Females, Couples" which would suggest that I am on the hunt for guys only as well as others...!!!!! WWWEEEELLLLLLLLL, DDDUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! Correction has been made. Thank you for your attention. -Rick
To any that care, I think the site should have a listing of corkscrew ( basically straight but flexible enough to enjoy both sides ). That would really be a pure none commital way of saying things.
I am not interested in seeing my guy with another but I think you are a bi-male then you should list it. There should be no shame because we are all here to have fun and no one should feel they can't be who they are. Plus it will cut down on any situations that could arise when couples meet, etc.
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