I rarely get into sports talk but today we were talking among the guys and one is a die hard Dolphins fan. He said the Patriots do not deserve to be called undefeated since they were caught cheating at the beginning of the season against the Jets. Some agreed and some disagreed and I fell in the middle. I think many teams do the same as they did by stealing signals but they outclassed the Jets and I think would win without stealing signals. So maybe we could put an * in the record book next to their undefeated regular season. What are your thoughts about this.
if they go undefeated absolutely....they beat great teams along the way...indy, san diego and dallas.....i hate the pats as a bucs fan but what they have done is very impressive.....they deserve all the accolades they get untill someone beats them....and as far as im concerned jacksonville has the best chance....they can run the ball and play good defense....they seem to be the one team left that could pose the most serious threat to new englands undefeated season....the fact that spygate occured is meaningless really.....like my high school football coach told us if the referee doesnt see it...its not holding....basically its the if you arent cheating you arent trying mentallity......im sure new england isnt the first team that has done something against the rules trying to get an edge....the fact of the matter though the jets were an awful football team and in 100 games could probably beat the ptriots less than 10 times....remember the shot heard round the world....when bobby thompson of the new york giants hit a ralph branca offering into the left field seats to win the giants the pennant.....many teams accused the giants of stealing signs from the center field scoreboard and contested the reason thompson hit the homer is the fact that he knew what branca was going to throw.....heres the problem...you still have to hit the ball....it still has to go over the fence...had thompson merely hit a lazy fly ball to left field would anyone have cared if he knew what pitch was coming???? no the fact of the matter is players still decide who wins and who loses.....like yogi berra said...when you come to a fork in the road...take it.
We agre with Randa...
We have been a Patriot fans since they were the BOSTON Patriots lol yes they deserve it 16 and 0 all we can say is go boys go!
Norm&Sharon
Norm&Sharon
What even got us started talking about it was something we saw on yahoo where Garo Yepremmian ( spelll check on that name) said the Dolphins would always be known as the first undefeated team and nobody would even remember the Pats since the Dolphins did it first. He said if they don`t win the superbowl then the season doesn`t mean a thing. Sounded like sour grapes to me and that got our conversation started.
Sexed you are right Rice will be hard to top
Pats are going down this wknd...GO JAGS!
jerry rice also has john taylor playing next to him in 87...plus rice wasnt on pace for a 98 catch season.....i loooooove jerry rice but what brady and moss accomplished this year is crazy....that was jerry rice's third season dont forget.....moss has been in the league a decade....in most nfl circles you are considered in the twilight of your career after turning 30.....what he did was sick....12 games is unreal....but the fact of the matter is oj simpson ran for 2000 yards in a season in 14 games....not because he was hurt...but the fact that the nfl used to play 6 preseason games and 14 regular season games...had rice stayed healthy in 87 it would have been interesting to see how many he could hve scored....25 maybe.....27 28....dont you just get the feeling though that the pats would have got him that record no matter how many it was if they really wanted too.....you really want to play what if...what if barry sanders hadnt retired early.....how many yards would he have racked up....you really really want to play what if.....what if he was a dallas cowboy and not emmitt smith....barry might have run for 2000 in a season 5 times...and thats not a joke.
all i can say is rice was the shit
and GOODNIGHT JAGS
sorry all you Florida guys
and GOODNIGHT JAGS
sorry all you Florida guys
hehehe. they wont do it. the giants will stop there dreams in the superbowl.
kisses. alex GO BIG BLUE!!!!
kisses. alex GO BIG BLUE!!!!
Go team with the Best Butts....
Thumper
Thumper
Jags beat the Pats yeah right. Do the Pats deserve it hell yeah
Pro Football sucks! Bunch of fuckin whiney overpaid millionaires. College ball is better. I know they lost their shot by my team has always been the Oregon Ducks.
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I have to disagree with you there Tequilarose. College football is diluted. So many schools, so many players, and a diluted talent pool. The NFL is the cream of the crop as far as talent goes. I do agree that they are a lot of over paid cry babies.
To the topic yes they Pats deserve it, and it would be even more impressive if they win the superbowl. Did they cheat, they did what every other team in the NFL has done and has done all along.
To the topic yes they Pats deserve it, and it would be even more impressive if they win the superbowl. Did they cheat, they did what every other team in the NFL has done and has done all along.
You say "all the talent" and "cream of the crop", yet because they're all overpaid, a lot of them play like shit. If they were "all" great, there wouldn't be shutout games and players that suck, yet there are tons of them lol. The college games are far more exciting to watch. The players actually play like they wanna make it to the pros. I disgree with you LOL!
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For one time I partially agree with TR. When you watch college games they do seem to be much more motivated pros are motivated by money but the college guys are motivated because they want to become pro so they can make more money lol.
Watch college game compared to a pro game you you will see they run much faster and seem to go the extra mile to make a play because they know the eyes are on them for that dream of being a pro someday. Still like watching the Pats though and Jags are going down down down!
Norm
Watch college game compared to a pro game you you will see they run much faster and seem to go the extra mile to make a play because they know the eyes are on them for that dream of being a pro someday. Still like watching the Pats though and Jags are going down down down!
Norm
I really dislike the Pats, maybe its because Im a Peyton fan, or maybe its because I can't stand Belichick. I hope they get blown out in there own stadium.
GO INDY!
T
GO INDY!
T
The wife wants to fuck Manning, so she hopes the Pats get their asses kicked!
GO COWBOYS