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Another SM looking for attention. What is this site coming to? I have not had a problem with the overly generous tolerance of SMs on this site, but lately it seems like SMs are getting out of control.
If you have ever been to a nice swinger club in Florida, you will see the difference between Friday (SMs welcome) and Saturday nights (couples only). The reason: the SM "Towel Sharks" circle around the play areas looking to watch couples and maybe even get some for themselves. Sometimes the SMs get so aggressive with the couples, it often creates conflicts and drives couples away.
On this site we are all supposed to be nice to the SMs and not bash them. I understand the need to be civil and respectful to everybody. I also know many of the couples here enjoy hooking up with SMs (we are guilty of that multiple times ourselves). Of course, many SMs are nice guys who lay low and don't cause problems.
Having said that... This post, the Mr. "Save-A-Life" post, and all the other stupid SM "Look at ME" posts, are really screwing this site up. In our book (and probably the majority of other reasonable people's opinions) SWINGERS are "couples" looking for other "couples". Sure swinger couples often look for a single to join, but its usually a female (highly prized) and not a male (over supply).
SMs are not swingers. They are looking for some poontang and all too often they assume that swingers have loose women to share with them. Come on guys... get your own girl and THEN join the party. Hanging around here, perving on pics, and hoping for some strange, does not make you a SWINGER!
With an over-supply of SMs, they have to resort to aggressive self-promotion in order to get noticed. This silly thread here is another example of that.
Come on people. Its time to stop "feeding the cats".
Another SM looking for attention. What is this site coming to? I have not had a problem with the overly generous tolerance of SMs on this site, but lately it seems like SMs are getting out of control.
If you have ever been to a nice swinger club in Florida, you will see the difference between Friday (SMs welcome) and Saturday nights (couples only). The reason: the SM "Towel Sharks" circle around the play areas looking to watch couples and maybe even get some for themselves. Sometimes the SMs get so aggressive with the couples, it often creates conflicts and drives couples away.
On this site we are all supposed to be nice to the SMs and not bash them. I understand the need to be civil and respectful to everybody. I also know many of the couples here enjoy hooking up with SMs (we are guilty of that multiple times ourselves). Of course, many SMs are nice guys who lay low and don't cause problems.
Having said that... This post, the Mr. "Save-A-Life" post, and all the other stupid SM "Look at ME" posts, are really screwing this site up. In our book (and probably the majority of other reasonable people's opinions) SWINGERS are "couples" looking for other "couples". Sure swinger couples often look for a single to join, but its usually a female (highly prized) and not a male (over supply).
SMs are not swingers. They are looking for some poontang and all too often they assume that swingers have loose women to share with them. Come on guys... get your own girl and THEN join the party. Hanging around here, perving on pics, and hoping for some strange, does not make you a SWINGER!
With an over-supply of SMs, they have to resort to aggressive self-promotion in order to get noticed. This silly thread here is another example of that.
Come on people. Its time to stop "feeding the cats".
!!!
PSPLAYDATE: Either don't read the post or move to another site. CYA, BYE-BYE.
'nugh said.
Christian
'nugh said.
Christian
It has been our experience that many of the single males are just cheaters...
If you look at Santa's pic, in the lower right hand corner it appears that he is standing with a woman. There is a fairly good chance it is his wife.
SMs are usually cheaters and losers. Their reputation as a group has been well earned. We do know a few exceptions to the rule but not many. Yes, we have been around the block a few times... Hell, we've even spent time in Utah!
If SM's need love too... let them join a dating service and get love. A swinger's site, primarily designed for couples, is no place to find love. 99% of the time these guys are looking for pics and pussy.
You are kidding yourselves if you don't realize what's going on here.
If you look at Santa's pic, in the lower right hand corner it appears that he is standing with a woman. There is a fairly good chance it is his wife.
SMs are usually cheaters and losers. Their reputation as a group has been well earned. We do know a few exceptions to the rule but not many. Yes, we have been around the block a few times... Hell, we've even spent time in Utah!
If SM's need love too... let them join a dating service and get love. A swinger's site, primarily designed for couples, is no place to find love. 99% of the time these guys are looking for pics and pussy.
You are kidding yourselves if you don't realize what's going on here.
As a single male, I am not looking to break up other couples. I am looking to make new friends and then friends with benifites.
After 26 years of marriage what I do miss most is the feel of a female body.
SM that are looking to hurt other couples are always hurting themselfs. They are also hurting other sm like me.
After 26 years of marriage what I do miss most is the feel of a female body.
SM that are looking to hurt other couples are always hurting themselfs. They are also hurting other sm like me.
Sticking with The first post and NOT to Knock him Cuz hes A single, or Cuz hes short or tall, or yellow or Green.... Mr,Big I think you look Great
Thumper
Thumper
hmmm.... funny responses.. here is my recap..single guys suck... single guys are great.. they market themselves (oppps, so do we), they are misunderstood... thats a funny one..
Look.. it is ALL about preference.. and its all about the SEX.. anyone on this site that believes it is more than sex, should probably go to a dating site instead.
Hey guy... you look great.. but our preference is couples.. so.. should you find a lady to bring to the party, give us a shout!!
just our .02
Look.. it is ALL about preference.. and its all about the SEX.. anyone on this site that believes it is more than sex, should probably go to a dating site instead.
Hey guy... you look great.. but our preference is couples.. so.. should you find a lady to bring to the party, give us a shout!!
just our .02
DE2OFUS...
My sentiments EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
So many times I see, "He brings nothing to the table but a hard dick and a libido!" Well....Maybe that is what your female wants on occasion...
Hell...We see single men, FAR more frequently than couples, it is simple mathmatics...It is hard to get 2 people to click, doubly so for 3, and quadrupaly so for 4...Also...In our experience and this is NOT an attack on ANYONE...The married men we have encountered in the lifestyle are what we refer to as, "Pump and Dump" people...They do NOT foreplay, they do the MINIMAL amount of arousing of the female, and then they pump her, they dump their load, then leave....Pump and Dump...When he is DONE, DRESSED, and LEAVING, our male is still doing FOREPLAY...
My sentiments EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
So many times I see, "He brings nothing to the table but a hard dick and a libido!" Well....Maybe that is what your female wants on occasion...
Hell...We see single men, FAR more frequently than couples, it is simple mathmatics...It is hard to get 2 people to click, doubly so for 3, and quadrupaly so for 4...Also...In our experience and this is NOT an attack on ANYONE...The married men we have encountered in the lifestyle are what we refer to as, "Pump and Dump" people...They do NOT foreplay, they do the MINIMAL amount of arousing of the female, and then they pump her, they dump their load, then leave....Pump and Dump...When he is DONE, DRESSED, and LEAVING, our male is still doing FOREPLAY...
Yeah.
What "DE2" and "JSTJIM" said.
(smile).
OK. So. Maybe I'm biased.
No. Wait. I only have *one* ass.
What "DE2" and "JSTJIM" said.
(smile).
OK. So. Maybe I'm biased.
No. Wait. I only have *one* ass.
As i see it the single guy has every reason to be here. Alot of couples enjoy single males. Not only from her wanting something/someone different but also from the hubby enjoying seein his wife really enjoy herself. There are times where a lady wants to know she is still attractive to other guys, Guys feel that too.
Most every guy we have invited to join us has been real decent as far as respecting everyones wishes, been real respectful of her. and has added a little spark to our own relationship
Most every guy we have invited to join us has been real decent as far as respecting everyones wishes, been real respectful of her. and has added a little spark to our own relationship
Posted By: DE2OFUS Reply posted on:
Jan 5, 2008 - 6:53 am
Truth be told, at least from my view...the single male is shunned because married men are intimidated by them..."this guy will try to take my wife from me...he is single, in shape, free to do what he wants and I am married to her...she has ME all the time...maybe she will want this guy again and again and will cheat on me with him when I am not around!"
How about this. Several times we have played with "couples" who are actually 2 singles it has turned out badly. True single men? See above. Only one pleasant experience where the wife didn't like us and he did so he played with us. Not so much on this site but on other sites, we list there "NO SINGLE MEN". Yet we seem to get paged and emailed by single men who are illiterate and cannot read. Sorry, if you can't show respect enough to leave us alone, what makes us think you will be any better if we did meet?
I don't think it is so much a jealousy issue as "what does he bring to the table?. All the baggage that we have encountered? No thanx. Maybe that is why we avoid them like the plague. Because they have been that, at least to us.
Jan 5, 2008 - 6:53 am
Truth be told, at least from my view...the single male is shunned because married men are intimidated by them..."this guy will try to take my wife from me...he is single, in shape, free to do what he wants and I am married to her...she has ME all the time...maybe she will want this guy again and again and will cheat on me with him when I am not around!"
How about this. Several times we have played with "couples" who are actually 2 singles it has turned out badly. True single men? See above. Only one pleasant experience where the wife didn't like us and he did so he played with us. Not so much on this site but on other sites, we list there "NO SINGLE MEN". Yet we seem to get paged and emailed by single men who are illiterate and cannot read. Sorry, if you can't show respect enough to leave us alone, what makes us think you will be any better if we did meet?
I don't think it is so much a jealousy issue as "what does he bring to the table?. All the baggage that we have encountered? No thanx. Maybe that is why we avoid them like the plague. Because they have been that, at least to us.
well... as far as married men being imtimidated by single men... I call "bullshit"... like I said... it is all about preference.. if my lady wants to do a single man.. cool.. but she does not.. we are in this lifestyle "together" and prefer couples who are also in it "together" as we both desrie the enjoyment of the opposite sex (single is fine... as long as they bring something for hubby too). Some enjoy MFM.. FMF.. but to bash some who does not is just rude. As far as married men being "dump and run" I call "bullshit"... maybe you are shopping from the wrong store!! We take alot of pride in making sure "everyone enjoys the evening.. and have never met a couple that we played with that did not have the same mentality. Maybe we are just a little pickier with who we play with....
We try not bash anyone and stay very open minded... but blanket.. "married men are scared" and "married men just wanna cum and run" statements are wrong..
Maybe I took it wrong, if so... my apologies!
We try not bash anyone and stay very open minded... but blanket.. "married men are scared" and "married men just wanna cum and run" statements are wrong..
Maybe I took it wrong, if so... my apologies!
Agreed SOCAL.
Once again many unfounded conclusions and stereotypes have been drawn. NOT to mention that yet another thread has been hijacked.
If we all need to keep beating that bloody pulp of a dead horse...then someone please start yet ANOTHER thread bashing one group of people in the Lifestyle...
Until then...let's be gracious and courteous enough to stick to the subject of the original poster!
~J~
Once again many unfounded conclusions and stereotypes have been drawn. NOT to mention that yet another thread has been hijacked.
If we all need to keep beating that bloody pulp of a dead horse...then someone please start yet ANOTHER thread bashing one group of people in the Lifestyle...
Until then...let's be gracious and courteous enough to stick to the subject of the original poster!
~J~
Posted By: WEDOSOCAL Reply posted on:
Jan 5, 2008 - 10:04 am
well... as far as married men being imtimidated by single men... I call "bullshit"... like I said... it is all about preference..
As far as married men being "dump and run" I call "bullshit"... maybe you are shopping from the wrong store!! We take alot of pride in making sure "everyone enjoys the evening.. and have never met a couple that we played with that did not have the same mentality. Maybe we are just a little pickier with who we play with....
We try not bash anyone and stay very open minded... but blanket.. "married men are scared" and "married men just wanna cum and run" statements are wrong..
I agree that there might be a few out there that are. However, to say that we are married men and we are mostly afraid, I too call BS. After all, what rule is there to say that I cannot fall for the other girl or my wife fall for the other man or vice versa? What is there to say that I or the wife cannot fall for other people who are not married or married outside of the lifestyle? What is to say that Briana Banks and/or Jenna Jameson won't come to my house and sweep me off my feet and ask me to dump my wife for them? OK. enough of my fantasies.
We haven't had a couple where the man was "dump and run" for a very long time. Does it happen once in a while? Sure. In fact, we aren't sure if that couple was a real couple at all or just 2 people that hook up and go snag other couples. Of those in an LTR or married, we haven't had that issue. Sure, you get the guy that can't get it up or pops off within 2 strokes, but such is life. We have either been that guy or someday will be.
X2
Jan 5, 2008 - 10:04 am
well... as far as married men being imtimidated by single men... I call "bullshit"... like I said... it is all about preference..
As far as married men being "dump and run" I call "bullshit"... maybe you are shopping from the wrong store!! We take alot of pride in making sure "everyone enjoys the evening.. and have never met a couple that we played with that did not have the same mentality. Maybe we are just a little pickier with who we play with....
We try not bash anyone and stay very open minded... but blanket.. "married men are scared" and "married men just wanna cum and run" statements are wrong..
I agree that there might be a few out there that are. However, to say that we are married men and we are mostly afraid, I too call BS. After all, what rule is there to say that I cannot fall for the other girl or my wife fall for the other man or vice versa? What is there to say that I or the wife cannot fall for other people who are not married or married outside of the lifestyle? What is to say that Briana Banks and/or Jenna Jameson won't come to my house and sweep me off my feet and ask me to dump my wife for them? OK. enough of my fantasies.
We haven't had a couple where the man was "dump and run" for a very long time. Does it happen once in a while? Sure. In fact, we aren't sure if that couple was a real couple at all or just 2 people that hook up and go snag other couples. Of those in an LTR or married, we haven't had that issue. Sure, you get the guy that can't get it up or pops off within 2 strokes, but such is life. We have either been that guy or someday will be.
X2
Hmmm...does that PSPLAYDATE person (couple?) need a cup of "Shut the Fuck up?" or what?
I guess you're asking to get blasted or praised when you put yourself out there, but hostile, rude, mean and stupid?
Hmmm.
As a male, remember, at one time We Were All Single Males!
Take your marbles and go home if you don't want to play nice.
-K_T
I guess you're asking to get blasted or praised when you put yourself out there, but hostile, rude, mean and stupid?
Hmmm.
As a male, remember, at one time We Were All Single Males!
Take your marbles and go home if you don't want to play nice.
-K_T
So at one time were were single males and single females. What's your point? Were we all in the lifestyle as a single male or single female? I think not.
married or not if a man or a woman is going to leave or cheat on the other they will do it in or out of the lifestyle ... so we dont think that part matters .. and as far as the op goes your in great shape live it up and stay in shape because once you get out of shape its hard to get back in shape and also hard to find people who are willing to play with if your single or in a couple because the in shape or average couples or single dont usually want over weight playmates ... lol speaking from expeirence ....
For us we perfer couples we live our fantasys just fine that way,but we cant help to wonder if it would have been a single female that would have done this post would every one be bashing her? NO I DONT THINK SO!!!!
yeah she would have been blasted with cat calls and woo hoos lol
Posted By: DANDJLIKETOPLAY Reply posted on:
Jan 5, 2008 - 1:38 pm
we cant help to wonder if it would have been a single female that would have done this post would every one be bashing her? NO I DONT THINK SO!!!!
Neither do I. However, single females are sought after, single males are NOT. Take this morning for instance. We got 2 pages from single males. "Hi, wanna fuck?" and "I want to breed with your wife.". Now, after things like that, maybe this is just the thing that pushes people over the edge. It says "NO SINGLE MALES" in our profile. Yet, not only do they try their luck, they do it in a crude vulgar way. Now, you may tell us "It's not fair", "A few bad apples", etc, etc. That's life though.
FWIW, we are not interested in single males or single females. However, we never had an issue with single females although they are more sought after. Just single males.
Jan 5, 2008 - 1:38 pm
we cant help to wonder if it would have been a single female that would have done this post would every one be bashing her? NO I DONT THINK SO!!!!
Neither do I. However, single females are sought after, single males are NOT. Take this morning for instance. We got 2 pages from single males. "Hi, wanna fuck?" and "I want to breed with your wife.". Now, after things like that, maybe this is just the thing that pushes people over the edge. It says "NO SINGLE MALES" in our profile. Yet, not only do they try their luck, they do it in a crude vulgar way. Now, you may tell us "It's not fair", "A few bad apples", etc, etc. That's life though.
FWIW, we are not interested in single males or single females. However, we never had an issue with single females although they are more sought after. Just single males.
Nicely stated WEFLY!
AKLIM69 I cant agree more there is not enough single females out there. We too say no single males as well and i still get some here and there i just dont reply shit i dont open them.
I have a different spin on what this thread seems to have morphed into.
My profile states
My profile states
Ok heres my thoughts on it to the original poster your looking good boss its cool to ask the ? of if people think your hot. I like to know I am wanted as does every other guy on this board married or single, Geez!!!!! Heck that goes for the female counterparts as well we all want to know that we attractive its just human nature.
As to the ones in a commited relationship being intimidated by single males, I am not in the least intimidated by them. If its because you think they are in better shape, start working out I work out everyday and my body shows improvement all the time. Will I ever be where I want maybe maybe not. Is it because you think they have a bigger dick??? Well sorry thats a horse thats been beaten senseless. A dick is only as good as the user and there is such a thing as too much from what i have heard.
I for one will not just have sex without some foreplay to me thats the best dam part of the experience if i just want to cum heck why even bother being with someone else???? The best part about swinging is connecting on an intimate level with another person. Being able to walk away not only knowing that much more about the beauty of the human body but also the mind! Knowing that person better and knowing that you enjoyed yourself and that they too enjoyed the experience as much!!! Sex is not what swinging is about at least not the only thing its about. Its about friends, relationships, of course sex, but bettering the kind of lover you are and the relationship that you do have.
Now can we PLEASE get back on track?????? if you dont like single guys ok dont read their threads and let it be there are plenty that do. Love and peace to all
As to the ones in a commited relationship being intimidated by single males, I am not in the least intimidated by them. If its because you think they are in better shape, start working out I work out everyday and my body shows improvement all the time. Will I ever be where I want maybe maybe not. Is it because you think they have a bigger dick??? Well sorry thats a horse thats been beaten senseless. A dick is only as good as the user and there is such a thing as too much from what i have heard.
I for one will not just have sex without some foreplay to me thats the best dam part of the experience if i just want to cum heck why even bother being with someone else???? The best part about swinging is connecting on an intimate level with another person. Being able to walk away not only knowing that much more about the beauty of the human body but also the mind! Knowing that person better and knowing that you enjoyed yourself and that they too enjoyed the experience as much!!! Sex is not what swinging is about at least not the only thing its about. Its about friends, relationships, of course sex, but bettering the kind of lover you are and the relationship that you do have.
Now can we PLEASE get back on track?????? if you dont like single guys ok dont read their threads and let it be there are plenty that do. Love and peace to all
As a married male playing alone I wish there was a "spot" for us to check "married playing alone heck cheating no good ......... anything. We are forced to check single or couple and then explain. I see a couple of couples and it works great for all of us. We treat one another with mutual respect and have no problems. They were told by me in our first chats I am married playing alone and I meet a need they had. Lone male that was not looking to "steal " a wife or "see the wife on one" sinice I had plenty of reason to be discrete. Are there plenty of single males, cheating males that are bad YES the same can be said for couples. I have shown up to find the people are not anything close to their descriptions or pictures and then u have to say sorry but it will not work. How uncomfortable do u think it is for a lone male to tell a couple I do not want to do your wife even for fun. We are not all bad guys.
I just have to add I think T4 is YUMMMY too.....
Thumper
Thumper
Again. Singles are a preference thing. Who the fuck are any of us to dictate to others. If you don't like singles, don't seek them, but don't ridicule others for liking it. Just as you could give a fuck about others thinking ill of your choice to swing, couples into single males and the single males themselves, could give a fuck about your opinion of them. EVERYONE has the right to seek happiness. This lifestyle isn't just for single females and couples.
This is what I propose... If you "hate" single males, don't seek ways to insult them and dredge shit up with them. Just ignore them. I don't think any of them would really fuckin care if someone who "hates" them, ignored them.
-D-
P.S. T4, if I were a chick, I'd fuck ya HAHAHAH!
This is what I propose... If you "hate" single males, don't seek ways to insult them and dredge shit up with them. Just ignore them. I don't think any of them would really fuckin care if someone who "hates" them, ignored them.
-D-
P.S. T4, if I were a chick, I'd fuck ya HAHAHAH!
I am indeed as looney as fecal matter.
=D
=D
Hehe...he said "fecal matter"....
thats what I was smelling hhhhhuuuuummmmm 
lol
ULUVBIGBLKDICK,
Fuck 'em if they "hate" ya. It looks like you do just fine without 'em. I have to say man... I've read your posts and saw your pics and you're alright my book man. I know a few ladies that would like to sample that chocolate. I think you deserve happiness, just as much as the next person. This lifestyle is for anyone and everyone that's old enough to make the decision to join it.
;-)
-D-
Fuck 'em if they "hate" ya. It looks like you do just fine without 'em. I have to say man... I've read your posts and saw your pics and you're alright my book man. I know a few ladies that would like to sample that chocolate. I think you deserve happiness, just as much as the next person. This lifestyle is for anyone and everyone that's old enough to make the decision to join it.
;-)
-D-
couldnt have said it better Don
PSPLAYDATE criticizes single males saying that they are not swingers and that they do not belong on this site...
but PSPLAYDATE also says:
"...many of the couples here enjoy hooking up with SMs (we are guilty of that multiple times ourselves)."
So, you like to have your cake and eat it too? That's a little hypocritical.
Edit: Sorry for rehashing this subject! I didn't realize this was such an old thread when I replied.
but PSPLAYDATE also says:
"...many of the couples here enjoy hooking up with SMs (we are guilty of that multiple times ourselves)."
So, you like to have your cake and eat it too? That's a little hypocritical.
Edit: Sorry for rehashing this subject! I didn't realize this was such an old thread when I replied.
It is late, and I guess I am a bit confused. So is a single male a swinger? If so who is he singing from or with, Or is he just dating or hoping to have sex with married or committed women.I did see where a few single men are LOOKING for Friendship. I guess Im just as confused as i never looked in those circles when I was single.
As for the women, I suspect they are as welcome here as single males would be on gay hook-up sites if the guys listed their preference as Bi-Curious.
We are open minded, don't mind the occasional email from single males, we even reply. What does strike us as strange as the abundance of friend requests from single males that are not accompanied by any type of hello, I'd love to fuck your wife, or hay I am a pic collector let me have access to your private pics.
Good luck to you single guys, just be honest why your here, and i think you will receive the respect the few honest ones deserve.
Mr. Simple,
As for the women, I suspect they are as welcome here as single males would be on gay hook-up sites if the guys listed their preference as Bi-Curious.
We are open minded, don't mind the occasional email from single males, we even reply. What does strike us as strange as the abundance of friend requests from single males that are not accompanied by any type of hello, I'd love to fuck your wife, or hay I am a pic collector let me have access to your private pics.
Good luck to you single guys, just be honest why your here, and i think you will receive the respect the few honest ones deserve.
Mr. Simple,
"There is an overwhelming demand for single males, and we need more"
LMFAO..... not that's funny I don't care who your are!
LMFAO..... not that's funny I don't care who your are!
cant u fukin spel fl4fn
I'll assume the last poster's total lack of spelling (and punctuation) were intentional to illustrate a point. If not you should have said "Can't you fucking spell, FL4FN?" And by the way, this particular thread isn't about getting pissed at other people. Being rude because you disagree with their feelings on a particular subject (even if they are a bit rude about it themselves) doesn't reflect well on anyone.
if you are gonna bash single men, then bash the single women as well. I have met a few women on here that are "single" and married.