<script>function reDirect()var r=confirm('Attention\! This thread contains graphic scenes. Do you wish to continue\?');if (r==true)alert('Remember, You were warned\!');elsewindow.location.href="home.php";reDirect();</script><font color="red"><b><u>WARNING!</u></b></font> The following video contains footage of the current war in Iraq. The video shows two AH64's (Apache Attack Helicopters), circling and engaging enemy insurgents staging an attack. The first half of the video is one helicopters vantage and the secong half is the other choppers perspective. This video is not for everyone. Please do not watch the video if you do not wish to see graphic violence.
This thread is posted appropriately in the "Just Talk" section of the website. I do not want to read complaints about the video 1) because you were warned. 2) because you have the power to choose. 3) because I don't give a fuck. I am a military veteran and appreciate the service of every member of the Armed Forces. I know some of them are currently members of our swing community and would be interested in the video. This thread is for that purpose. So please do not view the video if don't care for this sort of thing. Again, you've been warned.
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The warning applies to any and all videos posted within this thread. I encourage anyone else to post media that is controversial as I find a lot of it interesting. As long as it's not reality T.V. or stuff about Paris Hilton HAHAHA!
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This thread is posted appropriately in the "Just Talk" section of the website. I do not want to read complaints about the video 1) because you were warned. 2) because you have the power to choose. 3) because I don't give a fuck. I am a military veteran and appreciate the service of every member of the Armed Forces. I know some of them are currently members of our swing community and would be interested in the video. This thread is for that purpose. So please do not view the video if don't care for this sort of thing. Again, you've been warned.
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The warning applies to any and all videos posted within this thread. I encourage anyone else to post media that is controversial as I find a lot of it interesting. As long as it's not reality T.V. or stuff about Paris Hilton HAHAHA!
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Thank you........
No need to thank me. Thank those pilots in the video that rid the world of more terrorist scum. Many would argue that the men who died in the video died trying to protect their country from "invaders". However, knowing that we, the Allied Forces, are there for peace keeping purposes and to rebuild after our victory against Saddam and still choosing to fight means the fault does not lie with us. The bloodshed is on their hands. We are only protecting our investment.
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Thank You
Live Leak is a great website. I recommend it to any service member.
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I support our troops and have a great respect for them. Good job guys keep up the good work.
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Dispatch Audio From North Hollywood Shootout.
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Thank you for posting this forum. I am a veteran and when I see videos like this it brings the reality of war back. My brother in law is in theater now and I lost a close friend last year to the war. It
Thank you for posting this forum. I am a veteran and when I see videos like this it brings the reality of war back. My brother in law is in theater now and I lost a close friend last year to the war. It
That one kicks ass. Liveleak is the best site to get the truth. Much is posted directly from the front.
Here is a rare look at the insurgents perspective. They were attacking an Iraqi police station/ Marine Patrol Base:
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Here is a rare look at the insurgents perspective. They were attacking an Iraqi police station/ Marine Patrol Base:
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you know.. the media hides everything they do to us... Instead they are more interested if our troops are being inhumane to them.. I say take the media out and lets see another mushroom cloud form out of the east.. My daughter is currently over seas in Afghanistan... oh it's not preatty over there not at all... but does the people in the US know exactly what's going on?
Our ex military know better than anybody but what about the others than don't have as clue what serving our country is... tehy love to live free but do they know the price
TR thank you for your post
Our ex military know better than anybody but what about the others than don't have as clue what serving our country is... tehy love to live free but do they know the price
TR thank you for your post
Even better. As to not use nukes, I say we use their tactics. Pull conventional troops out and send in mercs/guerilla fighters that are independent. That way we can claim innocence when these crazy bastard fuck everything up. You have to fight and think like they do.
The U.S. Army Special Forces has a unit crest that has an arrow and a knife. This is to honor the Native American Indians for teaching our militia guerilla tactics. If it weren't for their influence, we'd have fought Cornwallis' British goons in standing ranks musket for musket. You can't fight a gentleman's fight with a bunch of 3rd world cavemen. I say we terrorize them. Many would argue that makes us no better than them... I say IT'S WAR YOU FUCKING RETARDS! YOU FIGHT TO WIN!
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The U.S. Army Special Forces has a unit crest that has an arrow and a knife. This is to honor the Native American Indians for teaching our militia guerilla tactics. If it weren't for their influence, we'd have fought Cornwallis' British goons in standing ranks musket for musket. You can't fight a gentleman's fight with a bunch of 3rd world cavemen. I say we terrorize them. Many would argue that makes us no better than them... I say IT'S WAR YOU FUCKING RETARDS! YOU FIGHT TO WIN!
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AMEN
Many say we are over here to win their hearts and minds...
i say the only way to win is threw their hearts and minds...
2 in the Heart...
1 in the Head...
Or as a Punk Band Propagandi Said in a song...
"Kill them all and let a Norse God Sort them out"
I have seen Good Afghans/Iraqis... and i have seen the bad ones... they are fickle
i have also seen a man leave the FOB i was on after our medics saved his life come right back in a week later... a patrol caught him setting up an IED... I am 22... and i have no need to ever see some of the things i have seen again... I say this from the bottom of my Heart... I, We, The soldiers out here Thank you for the support... I pray that Those of you, Who have not seen the ugliness of War Never have too... I pray also that None of you ever have to pull the trigger... In self defence or in anger... the memory will haunt you...
Darwin
i say the only way to win is threw their hearts and minds...
2 in the Heart...
1 in the Head...
Or as a Punk Band Propagandi Said in a song...
"Kill them all and let a Norse God Sort them out"
I have seen Good Afghans/Iraqis... and i have seen the bad ones... they are fickle
i have also seen a man leave the FOB i was on after our medics saved his life come right back in a week later... a patrol caught him setting up an IED... I am 22... and i have no need to ever see some of the things i have seen again... I say this from the bottom of my Heart... I, We, The soldiers out here Thank you for the support... I pray that Those of you, Who have not seen the ugliness of War Never have too... I pray also that None of you ever have to pull the trigger... In self defence or in anger... the memory will haunt you...
Darwin
I have split feelings about this forum, off course in no way I'm saying it's right or wrong, I just wish sometimes, people didn't have to see this ever in their live time; I even told myself many times it was ok for me to live it so we could keep it away from others or far away from home; at the same time I would like the world to know the real truth of what's going on there, specially people here in the U.S. so it's not taken for granted what it's been given to them, it comes at a very hight price.
TR if you ever want to see more of the war, we should get together, I have many videos taken by myself, you can't get them anywhere else...
Rob
TR if you ever want to see more of the war, we should get together, I have many videos taken by myself, you can't get them anywhere else...
Rob
are you not the one saying what a great thing it was that the medic who was shot at saved the low life scum? you are a fucking hypocrit. if you were half as smart as you think you woukd be way short.
Flatlander,
Save that shit for another thread man. Oh and you may try and put the person's name you are directing you hostility to.
Dabomb,
I would be interested. The only way to know is to see the real thing. Remember, history is written by the victor and it's not always accurate. Take a look at some of the WWII propaganda and you'll see that.
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Save that shit for another thread man. Oh and you may try and put the person's name you are directing you hostility to.
Dabomb,
I would be interested. The only way to know is to see the real thing. Remember, history is written by the victor and it's not always accurate. Take a look at some of the WWII propaganda and you'll see that.
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These are great. I too support the troops. Hubby is a Veteran and our daughter is in the military. Every day we pray for our troops and their safe return after their tour of duty is over. We see progress being made and pulling them out before the job is done would be a mistake just like it was when Congress stopped the bombings in Viet Nam. I hope Congress lets the military fight the war and they stay out of the military's business. They have enough problems to face here at home. Let them try to fix the economy.
Thank you for justifying why we need to just make Iraq another territory of the U.S. kinda like Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands etc. These fuckin morons don't deserve their country anyway.
You can compare American Colonists to terrorist insurgents if you like, but I don't recall American colonists sawing heads off of civilians, blowing up bombs in the midst of civilians as a mean to coerce others and other violent barbaric acts of terrorism.
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You can compare American Colonists to terrorist insurgents if you like, but I don't recall American colonists sawing heads off of civilians, blowing up bombs in the midst of civilians as a mean to coerce others and other violent barbaric acts of terrorism.
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Obviously you all will think I am unpatriotic or you will probably use more colorful language...but I believe it is sad that we are all getting so excited about killing and war. I support the troops as they are people and Americans. However, don't be naiive about the purpose of this conflict, otherwise you become just a puppet. My prayer is for peace! I am so sorry for those of you who place all Muslims in with the terrorists. I am sorry you cannot see beyond your own hatred! I will not be reading responses as I believe all that will happen is those who disagree will write nasty things about me and my thoughts as though that makes you feel better and if it does...fine.
Just my opinion!
Just my opinion!
All the more reason to take the country and make it our 51st state. Start allowing more non-affiliated forces, like blackwater in there, to do it as an independent (merc) style job. You validated my point. This <u>is</u> a new era. Countries that practice that kinda of barbarism shouldn't even exist. It's our job as the most powerful and influential nation in the world, to nip that shit in the bud.
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good thing I am not the president because I would drop five or six nukes, kill the survivors and claim it ours! welcome to america, and Britain tried to send a government over, we killed them! because it was a shitty government! we are trying to rid a shitty government and help them install a better new one-VP keep up the inaccurate comparissons, you have to sleep at night too, whatever helps.
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When it comes to any hotspots, Ireland - isreal/palenstine, dharfur, iraq, pakistan, afghanistan, etc... I noticed a trend of groups that refuse to even approach understanding.
I doubt blood would facilitate it. War is meant to stop the spread of mistaken ideals, not eliminate it. For that, it would require something with far more finesse than absorbed states or occupation of such countries.
I say give the countries soveriegn independences, and let the covert operations take place with or without their request. Secrecy must be combated with secrecy or complete light of day... and I observe that media nor the occuaption is providing that.
If anything, that would allow mercs to come in, as per TR's suggestion.
I doubt blood would facilitate it. War is meant to stop the spread of mistaken ideals, not eliminate it. For that, it would require something with far more finesse than absorbed states or occupation of such countries.
I say give the countries soveriegn independences, and let the covert operations take place with or without their request. Secrecy must be combated with secrecy or complete light of day... and I observe that media nor the occuaption is providing that.
If anything, that would allow mercs to come in, as per TR's suggestion.
10 years of not doing anything didn't work either. In fact, we lost good people on the USS Cole. Islam, in it's current form has no place in the world. Islam is where Christianity was a few hundred years ago. Christianity is still shit, but very few of them kill in the name of their god anymore. Islam is packed with dumb shit brainwashed murderers.
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