We live here in Florida and we love it, but the couples on here from Utah are just too damn hot and wild! We want to move there....we wish we had more of you in Florida. Is it in the water out there or what? We hate to lose the beaches and sunshine, but sometimes you just have to make sacrifices. He,he,he
P.S. now before we get totally smacked by all of the hot couples we know here in Florida, let me explain; We are just saying that there are ALOT more wild and hot people from Utah on here than from Florida. Maybe us Floridians should spread the word and bring more of us out on this site.
Chris & Donna
P.S. now before we get totally smacked by all of the hot couples we know here in Florida, let me explain; We are just saying that there are ALOT more wild and hot people from Utah on here than from Florida. Maybe us Floridians should spread the word and bring more of us out on this site.
Chris & Donna
Hey XXX! Yes, you are right. There are alot from Texas as well(sorry to all of our texans...especially the ones we met at Hedo last summer!) That is a great idea to all get together there. Is there a lifestyle expo there anytime?
How about Half Way in Cancun... (Playa Del Carmen... Club Desire). We would so be there.
Hey trixie! With an ass like that, we will be there!
hey! there is SUNSHINE in utah 
By the way Blue, it's not the water! It's the state regulated alcohol that makes us all so hot!!!
Bluedecember, Majestic says give her 4 hours, she will make you REALLY want to move to Utah!..lol
In Utah we say who 'canitb' now LOL come on out we will show you more than just the beaches sand and sunshine hehehe
Wow! What a response!!!! So we have everything from practicing the faith, to state regulated alcohol, to fresh and salt water, etc,etc. I guess we will just have to plan a trip out there and have all of you all "School us" in why Utah is so damn hot!
guess we fit in that ugly florida category lol
heres one of my ugly mate on a recent toys for tots run not sure why im withhim lol.. must be the florida water
(This should start a little debate and raise the hair on a few people's necks)
There are many hotties in Utah. Sexy, fun, people who are great to hang with (and play with).
Well.... If you think you want to go to Utah to meet these sexy people, we suggest a visit NOT a permanent relocation.
We lived in Florida for 10 years and then moved our family to Utah for 5 years. Its hard to describe how difficult it is to live a "normal" life in Utah because the Mormons control so much of the total "consciousness" in the state. Especially if your wife and kids are Catholic.
Utah is beautiful and the people are nice. However you almost have to go "underground" in order to have real fun and enjoy things that elsewhere are commonplace. The government, liquor laws, and the social interactions are heavily controlled by the Moron church. The mainstream populace, as well as the non-mormon citizens, are heavily influenced by the Church and because its everywhere... it seems normal. Its hard to see what I'm talking about until you get out of there and look back.
Utah is a great place to visit, a great place to ski and play, but its definitely not "The Place" for free-thinking swingers types.
Disclaimer: I grew up LDS in Utah. Graduated from high school and a major University in Utah before moving out of state. Most of my family is still there. Growing up in Zion everything seems normal until you live elsewhere and move back.... then you realize how the Mormon church controls almost all aspects of life there.
We return to go skiing and visiting family multiple times each year. Its a great place to be from.
Now if you live in Utah, there is no need to get all pissed off and write a diatribe about how much you love your state. I love Utah too. I just hate the heavy-handedness and the hypocrisy of the faithful. There is also no need to try to explain how you get along just fine in the Beehive state... I'm sure you do.
Unless you grew up as a Utah Mormon, moved away for an extended time (no, a mission, or a cruise to Mexico, doesn't count), and then moved back to experience the contrast, you don't have a real understanding what I'm talking about.
BLUEDECEMBER... Rather than travel to Utah for fun.... why not travel to "full-swap land" for an even better adventure??
There are many hotties in Utah. Sexy, fun, people who are great to hang with (and play with).
Well.... If you think you want to go to Utah to meet these sexy people, we suggest a visit NOT a permanent relocation.
We lived in Florida for 10 years and then moved our family to Utah for 5 years. Its hard to describe how difficult it is to live a "normal" life in Utah because the Mormons control so much of the total "consciousness" in the state. Especially if your wife and kids are Catholic.
Utah is beautiful and the people are nice. However you almost have to go "underground" in order to have real fun and enjoy things that elsewhere are commonplace. The government, liquor laws, and the social interactions are heavily controlled by the Moron church. The mainstream populace, as well as the non-mormon citizens, are heavily influenced by the Church and because its everywhere... it seems normal. Its hard to see what I'm talking about until you get out of there and look back.
Utah is a great place to visit, a great place to ski and play, but its definitely not "The Place" for free-thinking swingers types.
Disclaimer: I grew up LDS in Utah. Graduated from high school and a major University in Utah before moving out of state. Most of my family is still there. Growing up in Zion everything seems normal until you live elsewhere and move back.... then you realize how the Mormon church controls almost all aspects of life there.
We return to go skiing and visiting family multiple times each year. Its a great place to be from.
Now if you live in Utah, there is no need to get all pissed off and write a diatribe about how much you love your state. I love Utah too. I just hate the heavy-handedness and the hypocrisy of the faithful. There is also no need to try to explain how you get along just fine in the Beehive state... I'm sure you do.
Unless you grew up as a Utah Mormon, moved away for an extended time (no, a mission, or a cruise to Mexico, doesn't count), and then moved back to experience the contrast, you don't have a real understanding what I'm talking about.
BLUEDECEMBER... Rather than travel to Utah for fun.... why not travel to "full-swap land" for an even better adventure??
a picture of my ugly florida husband lol
must be something in the water that makes us all look like this :z
must be something in the water that makes us all look like this :z
psplaydate:
I was born and raised here, and have continued my residence. and. I completely agree with you
But, for now, my "undergroundness" will just have to do Hooray for religious control!!
xoxoxo
I was born and raised here, and have continued my residence. and. I completely agree with you
But, for now, my "undergroundness" will just have to do Hooray for religious control!!xoxoxo
That pussy spur thing is going to be the death of me! Damn that is hot!! Whew!!!!
Its funny how the non-mormons and the jack-mormons form a type of "instant bond" when they find each other. Its kind of like a us vs. them mentality.
Swingers are very much the same way. The "Lifestyle" is like a little secret society. Although its becoming more mainstream, swinging isn't quite ready for primetime.
:v
P.S. Here is a funny little story: I used to work with a guy in Utah who was a returned missionary. His wife and he used to get together with a bunch of other couples as part of a religious/social group. The number of couples grew to about 10. Eventually it became more social and less religious. It finally developed into a swingers group that was quite active.
Then there was some cheating and some jealousy and drama. Eventually it all fell apart and the couples scrambled back to the Church vowing never to return. Of course this exercise proved to everyone the power of their faith over the evils of sin. Too bad... apparently they had some hot couples in their group and a lot of hot sex happening.
Swingers are very much the same way. The "Lifestyle" is like a little secret society. Although its becoming more mainstream, swinging isn't quite ready for primetime.
:v
P.S. Here is a funny little story: I used to work with a guy in Utah who was a returned missionary. His wife and he used to get together with a bunch of other couples as part of a religious/social group. The number of couples grew to about 10. Eventually it became more social and less religious. It finally developed into a swingers group that was quite active.
Then there was some cheating and some jealousy and drama. Eventually it all fell apart and the couples scrambled back to the Church vowing never to return. Of course this exercise proved to everyone the power of their faith over the evils of sin. Too bad... apparently they had some hot couples in their group and a lot of hot sex happening.
looks whos talking, blue december your seriously causing some in Utah to question why we live in the snow.
Well I will be honest here.... I grew up mormon and was a faithful as kid could be. It wasn't until I moved here to Utah that I changes my way of thinking. IN essence it open my eyes real quick. When I hit 18 I turned wild. SUpressed here.... very much so... but with out the repression I probably be timid little Tasha still.
I didnt grow up in Ut but Mrs did.
I have lived a number of places through the years and one thing I have learned is that no matter where you live and there is a religion that is dominant, you have zealous people who are intense about sharing their beliefs with you.
Yes, the laws here are VERY strange to me but... it is what it is.
I have found that each of us have our own views on life. For us in the swinger community, we are more liberal in our approach. For those in "organized" religion, they generally have a different thought process. Lets face it, whether you are Catholic, Baptist, Mormon or what, non of them view the swinging lifestyle as being...ok.
Once you realize that there come from is because they want to (in their eyes) offer you something that they see as better, something that will make you happier, it is easier to NOT take so personal. (we generally get backed up because we think the are judging us)
I have always accepted people for who they are and how they treat others. If we bash on ANY other way of life we are as hypocritical as any religious fanatic out there. For that reason, I just enjoy the realtionship I have with my wife and our friends.
I am comfortable enough with who I am to the point wher I don't really feel the need to prove or justify anything to anyone.
And last but not least.... having travelled all across the U.S. and living in different locations.... Ut IS a pretty great place to live.
(thats one mans opinion! lol)
I have lived a number of places through the years and one thing I have learned is that no matter where you live and there is a religion that is dominant, you have zealous people who are intense about sharing their beliefs with you.
Yes, the laws here are VERY strange to me but... it is what it is.
I have found that each of us have our own views on life. For us in the swinger community, we are more liberal in our approach. For those in "organized" religion, they generally have a different thought process. Lets face it, whether you are Catholic, Baptist, Mormon or what, non of them view the swinging lifestyle as being...ok.
Once you realize that there come from is because they want to (in their eyes) offer you something that they see as better, something that will make you happier, it is easier to NOT take so personal. (we generally get backed up because we think the are judging us)
I have always accepted people for who they are and how they treat others. If we bash on ANY other way of life we are as hypocritical as any religious fanatic out there. For that reason, I just enjoy the realtionship I have with my wife and our friends.
I am comfortable enough with who I am to the point wher I don't really feel the need to prove or justify anything to anyone.
And last but not least.... having travelled all across the U.S. and living in different locations.... Ut IS a pretty great place to live.
(thats one mans opinion! lol)
SPUR + PUSSY actually = WORTENBURG PINWHEEL + PUSSY those things they use at the doctor/hospital to see if you can feel things
very sharp and very fun. three dollars plus shipping on ebay. enjoy.
xoxo
ms sunshine.
oh! and i am glad the picture is serving its purpose
those things they use at the doctor/hospital to see if you can feel things very sharp and very fun. three dollars plus shipping on ebay. enjoy.
xoxo
ms sunshine.
oh! and i am glad the picture is serving its purpose
The repression makes being BAD soooo much fun!! Nobody represses us..Fuck em if they cant take it! Were definately not lacking in fun!
~D&T~
Nobody represses us..Fuck em if they cant take it! Were definately not lacking in fun!~D&T~
Simplepleasures....(from Mr. Blue)Growing up in Minnesota as a kid, I must say that I have never been turned on more by snow!(from Mrs. Blue) I am really craving a snow cone!
Nosnar...Great idea. Lets timeshare.
Wolf....We totally agree. Fuck em if they can't accept us.
daydreaming of Utah......
Nosnar...Great idea. Lets timeshare.
Wolf....We totally agree. Fuck em if they can't accept us.
daydreaming of Utah......
Timeshare!
That's the best idea we've heard yet! Lake Powell, Moab, Alta, and so many other fun places in all 4 seasons....
We'd love to trade (just not during football season)
:l
That's the best idea we've heard yet! Lake Powell, Moab, Alta, and so many other fun places in all 4 seasons....
We'd love to trade (just not during football season)
:l
Just two thoughts ... SNOW ANGELS IN THE NUDE and LAKE POWELL..
DANG.... the things you could do with a little imagination. (regardless of what state you are from).
DANG.... the things you could do with a little imagination. (regardless of what state you are from).
First let me say I agree and disagree and don
2XXX:
Very well stated!...kudos to you!
~D&T~
Very well stated!...kudos to you!
~D&T~
Actually yes, having lived on both sides, the grass really is greener on the other side.
Its really nice living in a place where it doesn't matter what religion (or not) that you are. Having said that, Utah is my favorite physical place in the world to live (excepting Florence , Italy). 4 seasons, the world's best skiing, unparalleled hiking, mountain biking, and the unique boating experiences of cataract canyon and Lake Powell, and the list goes on.
We are still enamored with the place. We have a strong dislike for the politics and heavy-handed, cradle to grave, religion.
Cheers!
P.S. Its nice to see some real discussions happening in these forums. Things were awfully uninteresting there for a while.
Its really nice living in a place where it doesn't matter what religion (or not) that you are. Having said that, Utah is my favorite physical place in the world to live (excepting Florence , Italy). 4 seasons, the world's best skiing, unparalleled hiking, mountain biking, and the unique boating experiences of cataract canyon and Lake Powell, and the list goes on.
We are still enamored with the place. We have a strong dislike for the politics and heavy-handed, cradle to grave, religion.
Cheers!
P.S. Its nice to see some real discussions happening in these forums. Things were awfully uninteresting there for a while.
Hey 2XXX,
We agree with you. We started the post in a very lighthearted funny way just giving our opinion that there appears to be so many more hot and wild couples from Utah on this site. I was actually expecting a backlash of critisism from other hot Florida couples, but that didn't happen.(whew...missed a bullet there!) Instead the conversation turned into people explaining why they are all so much wilder in Utah.
Now I must say that I was not aware of all of the religious implications of living in Utah. Mrs. Blue knew some of the issues, but even she didn't know that they run so deep.
I actually like the direction this post turned because it has educated me on things I was not aware of. This is what makes the lifestyle so exciting to us. We have met so many great people from different parts of the country and the world and everbody is different and everybody is the same if that makes sense.
Anyways, I guess I got a little serious here, so lets get back to fucking now! By the way 2XXX, we both think she is hot! And to Playdate, we agree with you too. Usually discussions like this get all heated and I always see one or two people that start bashing and turning positive discussion into a negative bash session. But that didn't happen here with is really cool.
You are all great and we would love to come and visit someday.
Chris & Donna
We agree with you. We started the post in a very lighthearted funny way just giving our opinion that there appears to be so many more hot and wild couples from Utah on this site. I was actually expecting a backlash of critisism from other hot Florida couples, but that didn't happen.(whew...missed a bullet there!) Instead the conversation turned into people explaining why they are all so much wilder in Utah.
Now I must say that I was not aware of all of the religious implications of living in Utah. Mrs. Blue knew some of the issues, but even she didn't know that they run so deep.
I actually like the direction this post turned because it has educated me on things I was not aware of. This is what makes the lifestyle so exciting to us. We have met so many great people from different parts of the country and the world and everbody is different and everybody is the same if that makes sense.
Anyways, I guess I got a little serious here, so lets get back to fucking now! By the way 2XXX, we both think she is hot! And to Playdate, we agree with you too. Usually discussions like this get all heated and I always see one or two people that start bashing and turning positive discussion into a negative bash session. But that didn't happen here with is really cool.
You are all great and we would love to come and visit someday.
Chris & Donna
Alright.... I have to get my 2 cents in here! I normally don't touch these streams only because I'm very opinionated (her) lol and tend to offend someone...... I don't think this time will but If I'm wrong..... Don't take it personally lol
We both grew up in Utah but were fortunate enough to grow up in a dominate Catholic/Greek Orthidox community. I would have to say growing up in those strict religious families, its even more judgemental of any kind of sin lol Of course there were a few Mormons thrown into the mix. Any religion has their faults,when taken to extreme, reguardless of what it is. lol Utah may have alot of mormons and morons, BUT its also those same people that got us involved in this lifestyle lol
After about a year of having so much fun with a group of wild Utah hotties we moved away to Cal thinking OH MAN ITS GONNA BE EVEN BETTER! Well that didn't happen lol We went to lots of parties down in Southern Cal...... Lots of parties in Northern Cal...... Yeah they were lots of fun BUT Utah has so many more FRIENDLY and OPEN wild hotties!!
When we moved back after 6 years lol It was only better with LOTS more involved then before! lol When Utah parties get goin..... Trust me when I say.......... No one cares what religion you are...... If you wanna get on your knees to pray........ by all means lol just let me drop my panties first! There is always something or someone to do in Utah..... Spring..... Summer.......Winter...... or Fall. IF you get out there and do them. Of course there's different stuff to do in other states that we can't do here, and thats what we miss about Cal, That's why we visit when we can! The people and relationships make it worth it to say We're from Utah even when the first thing out of peoples mouth from other states is " oh are you Mormon?" lol
Having this lifestyle being private or "controlled" as I think someone wrote lol Sorry but personally I don't want my kids or parents knowing.
Ok after all that I don't even remember what my point was lmao but I wrote this long so I may as well post.
XOXOX
We both grew up in Utah but were fortunate enough to grow up in a dominate Catholic/Greek Orthidox community. I would have to say growing up in those strict religious families, its even more judgemental of any kind of sin lol Of course there were a few Mormons thrown into the mix. Any religion has their faults,when taken to extreme, reguardless of what it is. lol Utah may have alot of mormons and morons, BUT its also those same people that got us involved in this lifestyle lol
After about a year of having so much fun with a group of wild Utah hotties we moved away to Cal thinking OH MAN ITS GONNA BE EVEN BETTER! Well that didn't happen lol We went to lots of parties down in Southern Cal...... Lots of parties in Northern Cal...... Yeah they were lots of fun BUT Utah has so many more FRIENDLY and OPEN wild hotties!!
When we moved back after 6 years lol It was only better with LOTS more involved then before! lol When Utah parties get goin..... Trust me when I say.......... No one cares what religion you are...... If you wanna get on your knees to pray........ by all means lol just let me drop my panties first! There is always something or someone to do in Utah..... Spring..... Summer.......Winter...... or Fall. IF you get out there and do them. Of course there's different stuff to do in other states that we can't do here, and thats what we miss about Cal, That's why we visit when we can! The people and relationships make it worth it to say We're from Utah even when the first thing out of peoples mouth from other states is " oh are you Mormon?" lol
Having this lifestyle being private or "controlled" as I think someone wrote lol Sorry but personally I don't want my kids or parents knowing.
Ok after all that I don't even remember what my point was lmao but I wrote this long so I may as well post.
XOXOX
ALL4MYPLEASURE, Mormons didn't get you into the lifestyle, swingers did LOL! BTW, nice to see other Greeks in the lifestyle. After all, we Greeks are pioneers of debauchery.
Granted, the scene is ok here. It lacks on-premise clubs and many of the other lifestyle related dances and such, but I won't complain too much. We prefer the scene in a state that is more liberal where you don't have self-righteous religious zealots trying to force feed the populous their dogma. Times are changing and the population of non-lds is growing and it's voice will be heard sooner or later.
-D-
Granted, the scene is ok here. It lacks on-premise clubs and many of the other lifestyle related dances and such, but I won't complain too much. We prefer the scene in a state that is more liberal where you don't have self-righteous religious zealots trying to force feed the populous their dogma. Times are changing and the population of non-lds is growing and it's voice will be heard sooner or later.
-D-
We miss Utah and all our friends! 
*sigh*
J&L
*sigh*
J&L
"Pioneers of Debauchery"...I like that. Heheheh
My ancestors (ya know...the Vikings) did their part. But Don, you're right...your people beat us out by a year or two.
We miss you too TG and Siren. And might I say, that new pic? Oh my...Hot. Makes me wanna just putcha against the wall again....BWAHAHAHAH!
-K_T
My ancestors (ya know...the Vikings) did their part. But Don, you're right...your people beat us out by a year or two.
We miss you too TG and Siren. And might I say, that new pic? Oh my...Hot. Makes me wanna just putcha against the wall again....BWAHAHAHAH!
-K_T
SWINGING8869, I agree <u>some</u> mormon peeps are cool. I just don't like the Church's agenda. In order for it to be carried out, it requires people. So, there are plenty of shithead zealots out there. LOL! On the swing side of the house, It doesn't even apply, because you can't be both a swinger and a active member of the church.
I was only referring to those that are actual members of the church and actively seek to make all people comply with their dogma through unconstitutional legislation. Like the people that water down beer, disallow gambling penetration porn and stem cell research etc. I wasn't referring to any the swingers here. :-)
Kinbaku, I am sure there were some horny bastards before the Greeks LOL.
-D-
I was only referring to those that are actual members of the church and actively seek to make all people comply with their dogma through unconstitutional legislation. Like the people that water down beer, disallow gambling penetration porn and stem cell research etc. I wasn't referring to any the swingers here. :-)
Kinbaku, I am sure there were some horny bastards before the Greeks LOL.
-D-
You know...the Mormons really aren't that bad. Ok...so maybe they're a little aggravating and sanctimonious...but hey, that's pretty much organized religion ain't it?
I have a testimony of this (haha); having lived both inside the church and outside the church. E
Every region has their "Mormons", or predominant religious-zealot group, which more than likely influence the local governing bodies and lawmakers.
Have you tried living in College Station, TX...with the Baptists and their branches? Not too much different than living in Utah with the Mo's.
KINBAKU: Yes...new pic as of yesterday morning Thank you!
I have a testimony of this (haha); having lived both inside the church and outside the church. E
Every region has their "Mormons", or predominant religious-zealot group, which more than likely influence the local governing bodies and lawmakers.
Have you tried living in College Station, TX...with the Baptists and their branches? Not too much different than living in Utah with the Mo's.
KINBAKU: Yes...new pic as of yesterday morning
Thank you!I have to go with the flow here.
Having lived in a lot of places, I've seen pretty much every religion I've encountered with it's share of bad apples in the Garden. On the whole, there are more bad Mormon apples in Utah than you'll find in other States. But I guess that's true with any religion and it's center.
By and large though, every religion has it's problem. Just like every individual has their own problems. No sense trying to find fault or judging. Just live your life, be happy and fuck your friends!
-K_T
Having lived in a lot of places, I've seen pretty much every religion I've encountered with it's share of bad apples in the Garden. On the whole, there are more bad Mormon apples in Utah than you'll find in other States. But I guess that's true with any religion and it's center.
By and large though, every religion has it's problem. Just like every individual has their own problems. No sense trying to find fault or judging. Just live your life, be happy and fuck your friends!
-K_T
Its funny for me to see people from Clinton and Clearfield post messages.
I went to Clinton Elementary School and Graduated from Clearfield High School.....
That seems like a lifetime ago.
:s
I went to Clinton Elementary School and Graduated from Clearfield High School.....
That seems like a lifetime ago.
:s
Hehehe...I didn't even grow up here.
I just migrated to Utah because the rocks look really pretty when you stack them up against a sunset.
I just migrated to Utah because the rocks look really pretty when you stack them up against a sunset.
I only have a problem when people tell me how to live and step on my liberty, by unconstitutionally implementing legislation based on a church's agenda. There is a 1st Amendment for a reason, but hey, enough about that. I'll fight that front on a different forum. Perhaps I'll start a thread in the group. Besides, I think this is off-topic. LOL!
-D-
-D-
Chonguey:
Fantastic!..lol..Ya ROCK man! That post made our night!
Fantastic!..lol..Ya ROCK man! That post made our night!
Only the FLDS (Fundamentalists) support polygamy. The FLDS are not the ones affecting legislature. Just because the LDS of the 1800's all believed in plural marriage doesn't mean everyone still does. To the contrary, the present LDS church frowns on it. In fact, acts of polygamy will get you excommunicated from the church. So I'll say it again... You can't be LDS and be a swinger simultaneously LOL. Thanks for making me "smile a little". :-)
-D-
-D-
CHONGUEY,
what brought that up? Thanks for the history lesson, but really you shouldn't make it up as you go along, its not cool. Call a conspiracy theory what it is.
I would like to set the record straight also, Utah has HOT women, not many hot men, and in order to be a "HOT COUPLE" you both need to be hot. (otherwise its just "wife baiting" isn't it?)
Now Nevada has been hoarding all the hot men! You wanna see some FINE boys hit any club on the strip! MMMMMM MMMMM MMMMM Yummy!
~K~
what brought that up? Thanks for the history lesson, but really you shouldn't make it up as you go along, its not cool. Call a conspiracy theory what it is.
I would like to set the record straight also, Utah has HOT women, not many hot men, and in order to be a "HOT COUPLE" you both need to be hot. (otherwise its just "wife baiting" isn't it?)
Now Nevada has been hoarding all the hot men! You wanna see some FINE boys hit any club on the strip! MMMMMM MMMMM MMMMM Yummy!
~K~
You base your opinion of an entire culture on a reality TV show? Then you tell me your not making shit up! HAHAHAHA!!
If you really want some insight into the "underground" of the Mormon "shoot off" religions I could clue you in, but seriously don't believe anything you see on TV, and don't go around quoting some self appointed prophet and calling it truth.
If you really want some insight into the "underground" of the Mormon "shoot off" religions I could clue you in, but seriously don't believe anything you see on TV, and don't go around quoting some self appointed prophet and calling it truth.
CHONGUEY, "Mormons" are those that follow the tenets of the LDS faith. The faith strictly forbids poly anything. Do I really care? No. That is between you and your dogma. However, my point is that I don't want the fucking zealots cramming their bullshit down my throat via unconstitutional legislation. The only argument I get is, "if you don't like it leave". No!!! This is America! No Mormerica. This isn't the United States of Latter Day Saints. You can't ignore the 1st Amendment and put an unconstitutional law in front of the majority and allow the Church to run the state. That is the very reason the fucking 1st Amendment exists. Majority or no, you can't make laws that respect a religious establishment. This includes the fucking blue laws in the south and some of the other bullshit laws that state you can't build porn shops within so many miles of a church. IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!
I could care less what the hypocrite LDS church was doing in the distant past. Hell, my people were building bath houses and writing philosophy when Joseph Smith's ancestors were running around in deerskin diapers and chucking fuckin spears. What I care about is the here and now and the shit that affects my life. Like a bunch of morons telling me I can't buy a scratch off ticket and buy some fuckin good porn while I drink 7% beer that I bought at the Maverick on Sunday morning at 2am. How about a real strip club that serves booze and lets you look at cooter.
In other words, whether Mormons were the first white people to inhabit this place or not, it doesn't belong to them. If we use that logic, we can say the fuckin Natives and Mexicans should have say not the LDS. The truth is, no one should have say over the private lives of others as long as all things decided are amongst consentual adults.
-D-
I could care less what the hypocrite LDS church was doing in the distant past. Hell, my people were building bath houses and writing philosophy when Joseph Smith's ancestors were running around in deerskin diapers and chucking fuckin spears. What I care about is the here and now and the shit that affects my life. Like a bunch of morons telling me I can't buy a scratch off ticket and buy some fuckin good porn while I drink 7% beer that I bought at the Maverick on Sunday morning at 2am. How about a real strip club that serves booze and lets you look at cooter.
In other words, whether Mormons were the first white people to inhabit this place or not, it doesn't belong to them. If we use that logic, we can say the fuckin Natives and Mexicans should have say not the LDS. The truth is, no one should have say over the private lives of others as long as all things decided are amongst consentual adults.
-D-
CLASSY: Huh??
We're still trying to understand your gobbletygook about the "HOT or NOT" response you posted about Utah males.
Granted...there may be a somewhat larger number of women in a couple that other couples may find more attractive than her husband...but you can hardly say that Utah has a larger number of unattractive males.
We're speaking from experience even as I type...living here in Texas, and having lived in other states...Utah truly has been blessed with an above-average gene pool in the looks department!
Remember...for every couple that you accuse of "wife-baiting", no matter how ugly that dude may be...the "hot" one in the couple (the females in Utah as you put it) chose him (the so-called "unattractive" one) to marry and/or be a significant other.
He therefore must not be THAT unattractive, eh?
Besides...who's the decider?
We're still trying to understand your gobbletygook about the "HOT or NOT" response you posted about Utah males.
Granted...there may be a somewhat larger number of women in a couple that other couples may find more attractive than her husband...but you can hardly say that Utah has a larger number of unattractive males.
We're speaking from experience even as I type...living here in Texas, and having lived in other states...Utah truly has been blessed with an above-average gene pool in the looks department!
Remember...for every couple that you accuse of "wife-baiting", no matter how ugly that dude may be...the "hot" one in the couple (the females in Utah as you put it) chose him (the so-called "unattractive" one) to marry and/or be a significant other.
He therefore must not be THAT unattractive, eh?
Besides...who's the decider?
ok, ok,ok,ok,ok already! As Donna and I started this thread, I feel that we must start slappin' everybody around here now. Let us remember, this all started because Donna and I stated that the couples in Utah on this site are GORGEOUS and WILD! We enjoyed the learning of the different opinions and views of this religion as compared to that, and how "controlled" certain things are out there in Utah as compared to Florida. But now this thread is starting to get hateful. Let's not take things personally or think that one is better than the other or "more wrong."
You know the old saying to never talk about Politics or religion. Well, that is a good idea for a reason. What I think is so funny is how some people can get so bent out of shape on one religion or another and yet they are fucking their friends! I grew up Catholic as a child but I am not waving incense around our orgy room!(although that sounds kinda kinky...hmmm..maybe we will try that!)
All we are saying is that lets just have fun and lots of sex. Lets not turn this into a religious war....
Your fucking friends.....Chris & Donna
You know the old saying to never talk about Politics or religion. Well, that is a good idea for a reason. What I think is so funny is how some people can get so bent out of shape on one religion or another and yet they are fucking their friends! I grew up Catholic as a child but I am not waving incense around our orgy room!(although that sounds kinda kinky...hmmm..maybe we will try that!)
All we are saying is that lets just have fun and lots of sex. Lets not turn this into a religious war....
Your fucking friends.....Chris & Donna
CHONGUEY,
Just a thought here, instead of attempting to hijack this thread, you could start your own thread centered around the Mormon, LDS, FLDS culture and history.
Just a thought here, instead of attempting to hijack this thread, you could start your own thread centered around the Mormon, LDS, FLDS culture and history.
Okay,
So there was this forum thread, and it walked into a bar...
...oh you've heard that one. Okay. Guess it's time to talk about something else!
.
So there was this forum thread, and it walked into a bar...
...oh you've heard that one. Okay. Guess it's time to talk about something else!
.
Kin,
Did the Thread say ouch?
Did the Thread say ouch?
CHONGUEY,
If it were only 19 year old boys on bikes with ties going from door to door spreading their dogma like suited harry krishnas, It would be easy to deal with. Although I highly doubt a bunch of horny 19 year old kids invented the whole demonizing sex thing. I have absolutely nothing against anyone practicing the LDS faith. I just don't want to be force to observe it's dogma as well. Is that too much to ask? If that offends you or any other LDS, is that my problem? NO! Why should you take offense to me demanding that my Constitutional rights be honored here?
EVERYONE ELSE,
I apologize if I have helped sustain this off-topic tangent. I will make this my last post regarding the off-topic rant and I welcome CHONGUEY to my group
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to discuss matters further. I would like to clear the air after all. :-)
-D-
If it were only 19 year old boys on bikes with ties going from door to door spreading their dogma like suited harry krishnas, It would be easy to deal with. Although I highly doubt a bunch of horny 19 year old kids invented the whole demonizing sex thing. I have absolutely nothing against anyone practicing the LDS faith. I just don't want to be force to observe it's dogma as well. Is that too much to ask? If that offends you or any other LDS, is that my problem? NO! Why should you take offense to me demanding that my Constitutional rights be honored here?
EVERYONE ELSE,
I apologize if I have helped sustain this off-topic tangent. I will make this my last post regarding the off-topic rant and I welcome CHONGUEY to my group
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to discuss matters further. I would like to clear the air after all. :-)
-D-
Drew,
I could make it say ouch...hahahah...I'm good at that.
I could make it say ouch...hahahah...I'm good at that.
Kin,
Why yes you "could", you naughty, naughty, Theatre
Why yes you "could", you naughty, naughty, Theatre
How about some Captain Morgan & Coke, a hotel room full of naked friends, good music, some slip-n-slide lube, and a camera. yyyeeeeeeaaaaaa. Now we are talking! See isn't this much better now?
Better yet, a real Slip-n-Slide going right through Cap'n Morgan's Tunnel o' Spank!
Now that's some good times.
-K_T
Now that's some good times.
-K_T
Mrs. Blue says she wants the first "ride" thru that tunnel.
Mrs. Blue, nice eyes. Very captivating.
Thank you! That is soo sweet They are real too!
They are real too!OK! OK! I just want to address the questions asked to me then I promise I'm done...
Thoughtgarden, I am the decider, I have been to the parties, and met my share and yes I wonder..Where have all the hot men gone?
Tequilarose, Maybe you should start a thread in the free thinkers, because I can't sit here while someone tells the whole of the swingular community that not only do Mormons still secretly practice polygamy, but that its some secret underground cult for sex. PA-Leeese.
Guey, educated in the ways of the straight laced LDS I believe, but you stated yourself you got your info on your theory of "Mormons who swing"being directly linked to Polygamy on a reality show called "BIG LOVE".....come on. Why did you even post that crap? Its like saying I know what its like to be rich by watching "Simple Life". People like you are what give Mormons and Utah a bad name.
OK done!
~K~
Thoughtgarden, I am the decider, I have been to the parties, and met my share and yes I wonder..Where have all the hot men gone?
Tequilarose, Maybe you should start a thread in the free thinkers, because I can't sit here while someone tells the whole of the swingular community that not only do Mormons still secretly practice polygamy, but that its some secret underground cult for sex. PA-Leeese.
Guey, educated in the ways of the straight laced LDS I believe, but you stated yourself you got your info on your theory of "Mormons who swing"being directly linked to Polygamy on a reality show called "BIG LOVE".....come on. Why did you even post that crap? Its like saying I know what its like to be rich by watching "Simple Life". People like you are what give Mormons and Utah a bad name.
OK done!
~K~
Well said CLASSY_NOT_TRASHY you make an excellent point
Joseph Smith wasn't anything like a true swinger at all. He was using his charisma and his position of power to pluck off extra pussy for himself. JS wasn't about to share Emma, or any of the other bitches in his posse. He even sent one of his buddies on a mission so he could tag the dude's 14 yr old daughter. When Emma protested, JS suddently received a revelation that justified his actions. The revelation also directed Emma to keep her mouth shut and allow it. Its guys like him that are quickly identified as "snakes" in the swinger community.
If you read unbiased information about JS (before it all got sterilized), you will learn what a schemer he really was. If you don't want to dig back on your own, I suggest that you read "Under the Banner of Heaven". It will give you a small dose of what I'm talking about.
BLUEDECEMBER: Sorry to hijack your thread. I think you may understand why Utah uses more anti-depressants per capita than any other state in the country.
... now back to your regularly scheduled program:
Hey all you Utah hotties!!! Lets all get drunk and fuck each other!!! Yee Haw.
If you read unbiased information about JS (before it all got sterilized), you will learn what a schemer he really was. If you don't want to dig back on your own, I suggest that you read "Under the Banner of Heaven". It will give you a small dose of what I'm talking about.
BLUEDECEMBER: Sorry to hijack your thread. I think you may understand why Utah uses more anti-depressants per capita than any other state in the country.
... now back to your regularly scheduled program:
Hey all you Utah hotties!!! Lets all get drunk and fuck each other!!! Yee Haw.