A few years ago we met our first "swingers." They were in their 50's, overweight, and not attractive. We eventually met more of their friends who were equally overweight and not attractive. They were always trying to entice us to participate in their "swinging" activities. It seemed as if all these couples lost interest in each other and just wanted some other person besides their own partner to fuck. They were always looking to trade up and we were the outcasts for not participating. The overweight ugly people always hide behind "inner beauty" and "connection." Sorry, I don't get it. My girl doesn't get it even more than me.
I'm aware that ugly people need love too. It's great when two ugly couples can come together and eventually....come together. You know who you are. Or at least others know who you are.
Attraction is everything in this lifestyle. Standards vary not only from couple to couple but person to person. Think about it: It's absolutely amazing that you found someone that isn't completely disgusted by you and vice versa. The odds of finding another couple that BOTH of you are into are astronomical.
I think a lot of people in this lifestyle just "settle" for what's available, in turn lowering the collective standard. Don't be afraid to reject a couple if one of them is unattractive. Your partner will appreciate this.
I'm aware that ugly people need love too. It's great when two ugly couples can come together and eventually....come together. You know who you are. Or at least others know who you are.
Attraction is everything in this lifestyle. Standards vary not only from couple to couple but person to person. Think about it: It's absolutely amazing that you found someone that isn't completely disgusted by you and vice versa. The odds of finding another couple that BOTH of you are into are astronomical.
I think a lot of people in this lifestyle just "settle" for what's available, in turn lowering the collective standard. Don't be afraid to reject a couple if one of them is unattractive. Your partner will appreciate this.
Our only comment is why did you post this? So what you did not think they were attractive find someone else that you are attracted to and move on no need to ridicule majority of everyday Normal people. One day you will get older and not be as firm and you will think twice about what you posted.
We are in better shape than a lot of much younger couples we would much rather meet a cpl who has a good attitude and a O.K. body than some "hotties" that thinks they are Gods gift to the world.
Why not post a photo from neck down so all can at least see just how "hot" you both are.
Your post was uncalled for but then again everybody has the right to their opinion you expressed yours we just anxious to see how many agree with us and tell you that your post is rude and crude.
N&S
We are in better shape than a lot of much younger couples we would much rather meet a cpl who has a good attitude and a O.K. body than some "hotties" that thinks they are Gods gift to the world.
Why not post a photo from neck down so all can at least see just how "hot" you both are.
Your post was uncalled for but then again everybody has the right to their opinion you expressed yours we just anxious to see how many agree with us and tell you that your post is rude and crude.
N&S
Ugly is a character trait, not a physical flaw. And you weren't really talking about "ugly" people, you were talking about overweight people. Could it be, SHEKKI, that the reason you don't post pictures of yourself is because you are physically unattractive as well as having an unattractive personality?
At least you met some of these people and didn't base your opinions just on profile photos, which happens to us a lot. Speaking as a couple wom most would not find that "attractive" up front and who want to meet people with a deeper perspective on life...oh, never mind, you already don't understand what I am saying...
Hope you get what you are looking for for the Holidays... A plethora of hate mail and for kicks someone who likes shadow-fukking.....
Hope you get what you are looking for for the Holidays... A plethora of hate mail and for kicks someone who likes shadow-fukking.....
Ugliness is more than just looks and when the dya comes that you mature and grow up you will realize this.
We have been with couples where he was a model for some GQ mags and she was a model with soem sexy mags ( Victoria secrets..etc) and have been with some that i wouldn't take home to meet mom.
We have also turned down a few couples The "ken and babrbie" types and the "ugly overweight" types .
AND like most of the decent people in the lifestyle it was all because of their attitude NOT their looks.
You look atour profile and i bet say oo he is ugly and overweight lets see if she will play alone ....lol keep dreaming ......lol
BTW she was once a Victoria Secrets model.
Dont like what you see just move on...ne need to berate others on their looks just to make yourself feel like your better than you really are.
We have been with couples where he was a model for some GQ mags and she was a model with soem sexy mags ( Victoria secrets..etc) and have been with some that i wouldn't take home to meet mom.
We have also turned down a few couples The "ken and babrbie" types and the "ugly overweight" types .
AND like most of the decent people in the lifestyle it was all because of their attitude NOT their looks.
You look atour profile and i bet say oo he is ugly and overweight lets see if she will play alone ....lol keep dreaming ......lol
BTW she was once a Victoria Secrets model.
Dont like what you see just move on...ne need to berate others on their looks just to make yourself feel like your better than you really are.
wow no wonder why i cant get laid by any other women lol. and i agree with thelast two comments,but i do have a quistion for shekki if you knew they were older and heavy set almost sure you seen a pic of them b4 meeting them if not well then there is something wrong there lol why did you go out and meet them in person if you didnt like the way they looked or there age?if we went on peoples weight and looks then damn there is something wrong with kitty because im fat and ugly myself lol.it'slike i say we dont judge the book by it's cover and you shouldn't either the story might just be the best damn story you ever reads before.
joe aka the fat ugly bastered lol
joe aka the fat ugly bastered lol
attitudes and personalities are the true beauty and ugly of every person .. but thats our take on that .. and yes we are both over weight .. so what .. we are not perfect and neither is anyone else .no matter how good looking on the outside you are theres gonna be some flaw somewhere .. and visa versa .. no one is perfect by any means .. some of us know this others just THINK they are better than the rest .. and or play with those that are in their click.. we had rather play with over weight people that have good personalities than a model that dont ...
Pretty "Harsh" words you FUCKING MORON. Perhaps "Unattractive" would be more appropriate, or maybe its just that you, the male who obviously wrote this line, happens to be the hottest guy on this site.
I would guess shallow, self absorbed, and highly self-centered probably would be a good psychological description of your makeup.
Kim
I would guess shallow, self absorbed, and highly self-centered probably would be a good psychological description of your makeup.
Kim
Considering that what attracts one person to another varies wildly from person to person, its amazing that you can make a blanket statement about "ugliness" and "attraction" which you clearly ASSume pertains to all swingers.
Also just turning down a couple cuz you personally don't find both individuals in a couple attractive, without discussing with your partner whether or not they might be interested is just rude unless you are both bi and you know that well what they like.
My .02
-SG
Also just turning down a couple cuz you personally don't find both individuals in a couple attractive, without discussing with your partner whether or not they might be interested is just rude unless you are both bi and you know that well what they like.
My .02
-SG
Well WE for one put our picture out there for all to see..wonder why Shrek?ooopps my bad..DIDNT..Enough of this assinine inconsiderate drivel..We all get what we deserve..bye KattNJohn
whole heartedly agree with sinfulnhim
and I'd like to say thanks, to those that remember big people are people too!
jeremy
and I'd like to say thanks, to those that remember big people are people too!
jeremy
SHEKKI,
We feel your pain. I know some of you don't like this thread, but I've seen the same trend. Finding attractive couples can be a challenge. The whole "If you can't say something nice" line is a cliche' and getting old too. I"m not sure what planet some of you are from, but to go around looking through the world with rose colored glasses is pretty naive.
We really don't care who's bonin who. But like SHEKKI said, you really need to look at a profile and realize, we aren't here to find random wet holes and dicks regardless of the persons physical features or age. Believe me, I would rather stay in the shower and use extra soap before I'd "Settle".
What I find hypocritical too, is young and/or attractive people get ridiculed by the ugly ones. To some of them, it's like your fault for being attractive. I know that sounds pretentious, but it does happen. I have posted on this forum before and have said nothing about our looks and people start chiming in with, "you just think you are better than everyone", and "calling us Ken and Barbie", and is the reason why we added the Ken and Barbie pic to our profile.. as a joke. I would say there are definitely perfect and beautiful people out there and would never categorize ourselves into that, but you have to be able to look at a profile and know when your are just out of your league. I say this because I think my wife is stunning. We get emails from litteral trolls, 55 years old, fat, over-weight, and horribly unattrative. We just delete the emails but I really would like to reply with "are you fucking kidding me"? We are an apples for apples couple. We like clean, well put together, attractive, outgoing people.
SHEKKI, we also agree that finding a couple where you are both attracted to them is like aligning the GD stars or planets. We have found it, but it's not easy. I believe you are on our friends list. So maybe size us up and let us know if we fall into your desired qualities. We aren't 50, fat, or ugly last time I checked. LOL. Interesting thread. I knew you were going to get some heat on this one. I think if you are ugly and fat, don't reply to this thread being defensive, you're just implicating yourself to the Forum topic..
We feel your pain. I know some of you don't like this thread, but I've seen the same trend. Finding attractive couples can be a challenge. The whole "If you can't say something nice" line is a cliche' and getting old too. I"m not sure what planet some of you are from, but to go around looking through the world with rose colored glasses is pretty naive.
We really don't care who's bonin who. But like SHEKKI said, you really need to look at a profile and realize, we aren't here to find random wet holes and dicks regardless of the persons physical features or age. Believe me, I would rather stay in the shower and use extra soap before I'd "Settle".
What I find hypocritical too, is young and/or attractive people get ridiculed by the ugly ones. To some of them, it's like your fault for being attractive. I know that sounds pretentious, but it does happen. I have posted on this forum before and have said nothing about our looks and people start chiming in with, "you just think you are better than everyone", and "calling us Ken and Barbie", and is the reason why we added the Ken and Barbie pic to our profile.. as a joke. I would say there are definitely perfect and beautiful people out there and would never categorize ourselves into that, but you have to be able to look at a profile and know when your are just out of your league. I say this because I think my wife is stunning. We get emails from litteral trolls, 55 years old, fat, over-weight, and horribly unattrative. We just delete the emails but I really would like to reply with "are you fucking kidding me"? We are an apples for apples couple. We like clean, well put together, attractive, outgoing people.
SHEKKI, we also agree that finding a couple where you are both attracted to them is like aligning the GD stars or planets. We have found it, but it's not easy. I believe you are on our friends list. So maybe size us up and let us know if we fall into your desired qualities. We aren't 50, fat, or ugly last time I checked. LOL. Interesting thread. I knew you were going to get some heat on this one. I think if you are ugly and fat, don't reply to this thread being defensive, you're just implicating yourself to the Forum topic..
Every one is so different when it come to what is attractive and what is not...what you may think is ugly may be beautiful to someone else... and yes personalty does go along way..
I am a fat Lady and fucking proud of of if you don't like ya can kiss my fat ass:z
I am a fat Lady and fucking proud of of if you don't like ya can kiss my fat ass:z
Just an obvious ploy to draw attention to his profile. Not worth saying much more.
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I am a fat GREEK Bastard with a hot wife. It's pretty sweet for me, but must really suck for her. HAHAHA! I must say though. I agree with the attraction thing. You have to be attracted to make this worth it. However, If you are not attracted to the person, there is no need to be rude and tell them that you find them unattractive, especially using harsh names. You should just let down easy and move on. If at that point they get offended, that is their issue not yours.
Again, I still maintain that we all have our preferences and we don't all fit each other's molds. While we may find absolutely no sexual attraction to a couple, if their attitude is cool and they are fun to be with, we can definelty hang as buddies.
This lifestyle is no different than being single, except your are a couple on "the prowl" together. When you were single you looked for those you were attracted to and occasionally had the misfortune of experiencing those you were not. It's not wrong to try and minimize the latter from happening. I do think it's wrong to do it in such a manner that would hurt others esteem and/or feelings.
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I am a fat GREEK Bastard with a hot wife. It's pretty sweet for me, but must really suck for her. HAHAHA! I must say though. I agree with the attraction thing. You have to be attracted to make this worth it. However, If you are not attracted to the person, there is no need to be rude and tell them that you find them unattractive, especially using harsh names. You should just let down easy and move on. If at that point they get offended, that is their issue not yours.
Again, I still maintain that we all have our preferences and we don't all fit each other's molds. While we may find absolutely no sexual attraction to a couple, if their attitude is cool and they are fun to be with, we can definelty hang as buddies.
This lifestyle is no different than being single, except your are a couple on "the prowl" together. When you were single you looked for those you were attracted to and occasionally had the misfortune of experiencing those you were not. It's not wrong to try and minimize the latter from happening. I do think it's wrong to do it in such a manner that would hurt others esteem and/or feelings.
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The Don,
whatever, Mrs. UtHot would sample your Gyro and you know it.. She doesn't think you are fat either, hell, she doesn't even notice, due to the distraction of your Adonis-like looks and big Greek package.
whatever, Mrs. UtHot would sample your Gyro and you know it.. She doesn't think you are fat either, hell, she doesn't even notice, due to the distraction of your Adonis-like looks and big Greek package.
Shekki...ummm...wow...damn...uhh...words escape me. I'm still sitting here in disbelief (I read your post 5 minutes ago), wondering exactly what to say.
I can't believe you posted that...or even fathom what your intention may have been in doing so?!?
Your trolling for the pretty peeps may pay off, but damn man! Either grow the hell up, or as Darwin would say...EVOLVE!
You're an ass-hat...not because you only prefer people you're only attracted to to swing with (which, by the way is what we ALL seek you dumb-ass), but because you took the time to actually articulate how incredibly ignorant and shallow both you and your girlfriend/wife really are. An you did it in a public forum on a swinger site, which statistically probably has a greater ratio of older AND fatter people!
Wow...I'm still in awe.
So petty...
It irks me that I'm even allowing myself to respond to this...but I suppose that despite what has been mentioned, I feel compelled to defend us ugly and fat people. Both Siren and myself have been known to be named as such; it's all good...we still love ourselves and each other, and have a rich selection of friends.
SHEKKI...I'm curious as to why you have no pics in your profile? Just a long shadow cast by a setting/rising sun? Why is that?
~J~
I can't believe you posted that...or even fathom what your intention may have been in doing so?!?
Your trolling for the pretty peeps may pay off, but damn man! Either grow the hell up, or as Darwin would say...EVOLVE!
You're an ass-hat...not because you only prefer people you're only attracted to to swing with (which, by the way is what we ALL seek you dumb-ass), but because you took the time to actually articulate how incredibly ignorant and shallow both you and your girlfriend/wife really are. An you did it in a public forum on a swinger site, which statistically probably has a greater ratio of older AND fatter people!
Wow...I'm still in awe.
So petty...
It irks me that I'm even allowing myself to respond to this...but I suppose that despite what has been mentioned, I feel compelled to defend us ugly and fat people. Both Siren and myself have been known to be named as such; it's all good...we still love ourselves and each other, and have a rich selection of friends.
SHEKKI...I'm curious as to why you have no pics in your profile? Just a long shadow cast by a setting/rising sun? Why is that?
~J~
If only I were so lucky. She is a doll, to say the very least. Perhaps she can take a milk bath for me while I do my "Sweatin' to the Oldies" routine. ;-)
-D-
-D-
DON and KEN....you guys in your attempt to support SHEKKI, are merely overstating the obvious: We are ALL here to befriend and befuck those to whom we are attracted!
I mean seriously...who looks for anyone that is unattractive to them?
What you don't see, however, is the rest of the members of the site stating it on the forum (maybe most of us have enough sense to realize this is an obvious subject), and in such a tactless manner.
I mean seriously...who looks for anyone that is unattractive to them?
What you don't see, however, is the rest of the members of the site stating it on the forum (maybe most of us have enough sense to realize this is an obvious subject), and in such a tactless manner.
J-Dawg,
I support no one. If you read my post again, I do not condone his methods what-so-ever. In fact I find them very harsh. My perspective compells me to state to Shekki that he and his wife are probably someone else's sorry assed ugly chud couple. I agreed with Mr. X's perspective in that we are all in this to have sex with those that we are attracted to. We should not have to "settle" for a couple or couples we are not attracted to. I whole-heartedly agree with that. However, I do not agree with Shekki's methods of rejecting couples that are not attractive to them.
-D-
I support no one. If you read my post again, I do not condone his methods what-so-ever. In fact I find them very harsh. My perspective compells me to state to Shekki that he and his wife are probably someone else's sorry assed ugly chud couple. I agreed with Mr. X's perspective in that we are all in this to have sex with those that we are attracted to. We should not have to "settle" for a couple or couples we are not attracted to. I whole-heartedly agree with that. However, I do not agree with Shekki's methods of rejecting couples that are not attractive to them.
-D-
J,
you're just the opitme of cool and collected and you know it. You don't even have to try and you're the ruler of our little swigning kingdom with your amazing profile and your alwasys de rigueur eloquence .
You know what is unattractive about you and Lisa? That you didn't suck more than Angie's toes and I never got to do the horizontal shuffle with your beautiful wife.. Tragic!!
Hope you guys are enjoying Texas, we miss you both!!
Merry Christmas,
Ken & Ang
you're just the opitme of cool and collected and you know it. You don't even have to try and you're the ruler of our little swigning kingdom with your amazing profile and your alwasys de rigueur eloquence .
You know what is unattractive about you and Lisa? That you didn't suck more than Angie's toes and I never got to do the horizontal shuffle with your beautiful wife.. Tragic!!
Hope you guys are enjoying Texas, we miss you both!!
Merry Christmas,
Ken & Ang
Yep...merely stating the painfully obvious; We're all here for people we find attractive.Thank you K/A...we're missing Utah and all of our close friends...ALOT!
Well said TG.. !!!!
Ya know.... superficiality is a very unattractive quality to us! It implies such a level of self-absorption and Narcissism that it is very hard for those individuals to brake their gaze from their own reflection long enough to be able to see the beauty around them; the beauty of others or the world around them, unless of course it is shiney and offers a good reflective surface.
We are ready for y'all to come back up here!!!!! Hope we see you in a couple weeks!!!!
We are truly grateful for your willingness to share your beauty with us when we needed it most!!!!
Ya know.... superficiality is a very unattractive quality to us! It implies such a level of self-absorption and Narcissism that it is very hard for those individuals to brake their gaze from their own reflection long enough to be able to see the beauty around them; the beauty of others or the world around them, unless of course it is shiney and offers a good reflective surface.
We are ready for y'all to come back up here!!!!! Hope we see you in a couple weeks!!!!
We are truly grateful for your willingness to share your beauty with us when we needed it most!!!!
J,
"Painfully obvious", depends on who is looking. Some people think this "lifestyle" should be a free-for-all fuck fest, where no one has any inhibitions. They think if you turn them down you are an asshole because you think you are hot shit. If it were so "painfully obvious", people wouldn't need to hear rejection in an email, when silence says it all. There are just as many shallow fucking viscious assholes out there, as there are ultra sensitive whiners that make it their life to be offended and wounded because everyone doesn't drop their clothes when they pass. I think what is "painfully obvious" to some, is a darkness awaiting light for others. However, I do agree that common sense should tell you that everyone wants here, wants what they're attracted to.
-D-
"Painfully obvious", depends on who is looking. Some people think this "lifestyle" should be a free-for-all fuck fest, where no one has any inhibitions. They think if you turn them down you are an asshole because you think you are hot shit. If it were so "painfully obvious", people wouldn't need to hear rejection in an email, when silence says it all. There are just as many shallow fucking viscious assholes out there, as there are ultra sensitive whiners that make it their life to be offended and wounded because everyone doesn't drop their clothes when they pass. I think what is "painfully obvious" to some, is a darkness awaiting light for others. However, I do agree that common sense should tell you that everyone wants here, wants what they're attracted to.
-D-
i just couldnt belive that some one can make a statment like that and still expect to even remotly think they can find swinging partners...(unless shekki or what ever has more than 1 profile and that this is his cold cruel profile) we (Sara and I) discussed or should we say DISCUSTED this forum thread at breakfast when it was only one page long now its three... mmmmm.....bueaty is in the eye of the beholder, some people find diferent things attractive.. you are shallow to think that just because a person dont meet your criteria that they are ugly... well ill be blunt FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON>>>>.. there is bueaty in well (almost) everyone... withj the exception of some people start threads and open their trap and reaffirm that there are truly ugly ppl out there... we wont mention any names will we shekki....if you are just looking for attention well i guess it worked... we usually have fun on threads but the last two that really struck a nerve is this one and the guy that was slamming ladies with breast augmentation... all we can say is grow up and get a life because its obvious u dont have one or you wouldnt thrive on chaos and start shit....well i wont beat a dead horse the forum speaks for its-selfyou opened yapper and now you got feedback... dennis and sara
TR...ok, fair enough...excellent point. Perhaps I should've been clearer by stating, "painfully obvious to the non-mouthbreathing, non-brutish members".
Perhaps I should've been clearer by stating, "painfully obvious to the non-mouthbreathing, non-brutish members".LOL, yeah cuz the way you put it wasn't "painfully obvious" to me. LOL! I am kinda thick-headed. Hey, are you guys ever gonna get up this way again?
-D-
-D-
you know this subject really suck because the way people thinks about other people we are on here to have a good time not to put anybody back in the closet we had this problem before because i the husband is 245lbs and my wife 125lbs i think its not the looks that count it's the personality and the ATTITUDE that make a difference!!!!! we have been turned down by people they would say we dont feel a connection here we understand that .... thats the way we think things should be said and not hurt somebody feeling by un muture words so lets agree we are one big family and play safe
p.s. just our two cents wroth
regan & rhonda
p.s. just our two cents wroth
regan & rhonda
Posted By: THOUGHTGARDEN Reply posted on:
Dec 8, 2007 - 10:44 am
DON and KEN....you guys in your attempt to support SHEKKI, are merely overstating the obvious: We are ALL here to befriend and befuck those to whom we are attracted!
I mean seriously...who looks for anyone that is unattractive to them?
What you don't see, however, is the rest of the members of the site stating it on the forum (maybe most of us have enough sense to realize this is an obvious subject), and in such a tactless manner.
True. He is not attracted to them and he wants a certain look, good luck to him.
I'm sure someone will for whatever their reasons. There is always a kink for every condition.
Yes, it might be tactless and maybe it is because I (He) am weird but I prefer someone who is tactless since they tell you what they think and not what they think you want to hear. He has dealt with all sorts of slippery people who are really good at telling you to go to hell and having you looking forward to the trip. Maybe this one hurts but is refreshing.
Dec 8, 2007 - 10:44 am
DON and KEN....you guys in your attempt to support SHEKKI, are merely overstating the obvious: We are ALL here to befriend and befuck those to whom we are attracted!
I mean seriously...who looks for anyone that is unattractive to them?
What you don't see, however, is the rest of the members of the site stating it on the forum (maybe most of us have enough sense to realize this is an obvious subject), and in such a tactless manner.
True. He is not attracted to them and he wants a certain look, good luck to him.
I'm sure someone will for whatever their reasons. There is always a kink for every condition.
Yes, it might be tactless and maybe it is because I (He) am weird but I prefer someone who is tactless since they tell you what they think and not what they think you want to hear. He has dealt with all sorts of slippery people who are really good at telling you to go to hell and having you looking forward to the trip. Maybe this one hurts but is refreshing.
Posted By: BLINDLOVE Reply posted on:
Dec 8, 2007 - 11:58 am
But by no fucking means does it mean you have to be rude to people that arent what you are looking for. All you gotta say is not interested no thanks.
Is he really being rude to the people? I mean, he didn't say "I found BLINDLOVE to be an ugly old hag and her husband was much worse". It was just a general venting. He just groused about the ugly people he met. Now if he said I found TR or Joe Blow to be an ugly SOB, I would say he went too far.
Dec 8, 2007 - 11:58 am
But by no fucking means does it mean you have to be rude to people that arent what you are looking for. All you gotta say is not interested no thanks.
Is he really being rude to the people? I mean, he didn't say "I found BLINDLOVE to be an ugly old hag and her husband was much worse". It was just a general venting. He just groused about the ugly people he met. Now if he said I found TR or Joe Blow to be an ugly SOB, I would say he went too far.
There is a saddle for every JackAss and a JackAss for every saddle. However you define "Ugly", I have yet to see any one force another couple to have sex. Some of us deal with the handicaps nature gave us in the best way we can. I really dont think any of us really have the right to pass judgement on others. All I can say is I am greatful for the good people who have been friends to us and looked past our defects and faults... its painful enough knowing you have some characteristics that cause others to deny you the chance to meet, let alone be shunned or persecuted and made fun of for them. May I suggest you read the story of Johnny Lingo. Helping people find their inner beauty often makes them much more attractive outside too.
man this reminds me of people on here talking about cock size and pussy size now its body size whats it matter as long as everbody gets enjoyment out of it ever on here has some kind of picture or another so if dont want to meet or no connections dont put people down everyone is equal even people who think they are barby and ken what next are people going to complain about we are on here for adventure and fun not to judje people all people have a right to enjoy lie people can look like barby and ken and think they look better than any one and there personality can make them very ugly be nice its bull shit
This persons profile say they are not really into the lifestyle so why would they make statements like this about something they admit they are not into unless they just want attention.
Now their comments here said they kept meeting the couples friends and they were all the same. If we didn`t like a certain bodytype of person then why would we keep hanging around them?
As far as the trading up comment goes...we all trade up or down every time we meet another couple. What I mean by that is if we put two couples that want to play and asked a group of judges to determine who was more attractive out of the men and women then we would have the better looking of the two. So once they play, doesn`t this mean the better looking couple traded down? However as pointed out several times in this thread the intangibles come into play but according to the author of this thread only us fat and ugly people can realize this. So it seems like the author is jealous of the fun us undesireable people have. Maybe his girl left him last night for a fat guy and he is pissed at all fat people now.
Now their comments here said they kept meeting the couples friends and they were all the same. If we didn`t like a certain bodytype of person then why would we keep hanging around them?
As far as the trading up comment goes...we all trade up or down every time we meet another couple. What I mean by that is if we put two couples that want to play and asked a group of judges to determine who was more attractive out of the men and women then we would have the better looking of the two. So once they play, doesn`t this mean the better looking couple traded down? However as pointed out several times in this thread the intangibles come into play but according to the author of this thread only us fat and ugly people can realize this. So it seems like the author is jealous of the fun us undesireable people have. Maybe his girl left him last night for a fat guy and he is pissed at all fat people now.
What a Joke!!!!!!!!!!! You can not tell me that for 1 sec you did not exchange pics talk on the phone or comminucate in some fashion... If you did then you should have had an idea that there was going to be little to no intrests at all why even go thereif you knew or had taken the steps to prevent it from happening at all... You sound like you have not learned how to talk to others first
Wow the more I read and think about this the more upset I get. True physical attraction plays a part in this game, however inner beauty far outweighs it. For the ones who personally know us, can attest that the first look can be a bit of a blow but after talking things just start to look better. We know that not everyone is a 10. Not all people like the same type people. But to publically post the subject is only making you look like an ass.
Mr. Twobears
Mr. Twobears
OK I counted the votes and we fat ugly people win that's all I cared about
Anyway
Anyway
I have to admit that looks are what initially attract us to people. The inner beauty is what "does it" though. You don't have to be drop dead gorgeous but you do have to have inner beauty. People in this lifestyle can be some of the meanest crudest people around, but also some of the nicest most caring people as well. People are free to have their own opinion, but if you are an ugly person on the inside....keep it to yourself, you can hurt people with what you say.
ok i just wanted to say how dare you say that but i think you know that by now i am a big guy now due to meds i am taking but i just wanted to tell you that it does not change me from being funny, romantic,and passonite towards others and also all the women i have been with and had the pleasure of laying pipe to have never need or asked for a refit. So if you feel we are all fat and ugly why dont you move to france where all the beautiful people are or are you scared that you will be the ugly one there.
and to all the fat people out there stay big, stay happy, stay strong.
p.s. if you feel there is 10" like you (lol) then why are you still on the site.
and to all the fat people out there stay big, stay happy, stay strong.
p.s. if you feel there is 10" like you (lol) then why are you still on the site.
Some people are beautiful.
Some are cute and some even ruggedly handsome.
Some people are ugly.
Let me be PC and say visually displeasing.
Five pages (so far) of replies that bash me for saying what's on a lot of people's minds. I do know this because my mailbox was overflowing with messages from people agreeing with me.
To Thoughtgarden: You had the only rational response when you asked WHY I posted this. Maybe it was a last straw reaction caused by a confrontation with a rather pushy, unattractive couple.
Here's a pic (sans face, for fear of being lynched)
Some are cute and some even ruggedly handsome.
Some people are ugly.
Let me be PC and say visually displeasing.
Five pages (so far) of replies that bash me for saying what's on a lot of people's minds. I do know this because my mailbox was overflowing with messages from people agreeing with me.
To Thoughtgarden: You had the only rational response when you asked WHY I posted this. Maybe it was a last straw reaction caused by a confrontation with a rather pushy, unattractive couple.
Here's a pic (sans face, for fear of being lynched)
well wow i know im going to get alot of flack on what im going to say but here i go here i go and read through all 5-pages and see alot of people dowing shekki which let me say i dont think he wasright either could of said it a different.but like i said alot of people is doing the same thing as he did by talking about him as in calling him a fucking moron so please tell me what does that say about yourself?to me there is no difference between someone talking about overweight people or just plain calling people names .
joe
joe
Hey NOW!!! I resemble that UGLY remark!
Donky what am I?
Really big?
No.
Really really big?
No, no.
Green?
No I'm an Ogar! You know grab your pitch folks,
and run!
Maybe those who are looking for *Ken and Barbie* need to be more careful and ask for pictures before meeting other people!
Ugly people have feelings too, and they can be hurt and often are by words.
There are a few select swingers clubs I dont like to attend because they think they are the *Beautiful People*, or they are very cliquish...
To me, a BAD or STUCKUP attitude is a bigger turn off than those who might not completely meet my standards in the looks department.
The second biggest turn off for me can be the first words out of someones mouth.
Iron
Donky what am I?
Really big?
No.
Really really big?
No, no.
Green?
No I'm an Ogar! You know grab your pitch folks,
and run!
Maybe those who are looking for *Ken and Barbie* need to be more careful and ask for pictures before meeting other people!
Ugly people have feelings too, and they can be hurt and often are by words.
There are a few select swingers clubs I dont like to attend because they think they are the *Beautiful People*, or they are very cliquish...
To me, a BAD or STUCKUP attitude is a bigger turn off than those who might not completely meet my standards in the looks department.
The second biggest turn off for me can be the first words out of someones mouth.
Iron
Maybe you could have said something more like hey, we have a really pushy couple that will not take no for an answer. The are not quite the type we are attracted to and does anyone have any ideas how to get the point ot them without being rude or should I just lay it out to them and not worry about their feelings being hurt since they are not giving us the respect of taking a no as a no.
Then I would have replied well, since they are not giving you the respect of honoring your no then fuck them and tell them how you really feel. To get respect you have to give respect. Sounds like they didn`t give you any.
Now nobody gets mad at you but the couple that you don`t care about anyway. And you don`t have to worry about being lynched. Hope nobody really takes it that far to lynch you.
Good luck.
Then I would have replied well, since they are not giving you the respect of honoring your no then fuck them and tell them how you really feel. To get respect you have to give respect. Sounds like they didn`t give you any.
Now nobody gets mad at you but the couple that you don`t care about anyway. And you don`t have to worry about being lynched. Hope nobody really takes it that far to lynch you.
Good luck.
Sounds like you both are pretty ugly on the inside
On a number of occasions when we've responded with "not interested", a flame or pushy email was received in return. We finally quit responding in the negative, but that's a whole other post that's been beaten to death. People are putting a lot out there expressing an interest, and I can see how it would hurt when someone says no, but it's a price we all have to pay to find what we want. There are obnoxious, grabby, and pushy people although fortunately it's not the majority. Just last night at the Christmas party there was some idiot walking around rubbing his hands against every female ass he passed. Sad... I hope he reads this post. Unfortunately those people tend to be the ones who stand out and can really make experiences unpleasant. So, we try not to focus on the negatives.
Also, there are other sites and other areas of the country where you can find a larger population of the "Beautiful" people in the lifestyle assuming that is what you are looking for... I must admit we do like to travel on occasion. No disrespect to our local friends - you're all super-sexy, rock stars!
Hell, I used to think people in their 30s were less than attractive (as "ugly" seems to be out of fashion), but now that I'm mid 30s that's the age that appeals to me the most. I suspect that trend will continue in the years to come so I'm not sweating age too much.
Mr.
Also, there are other sites and other areas of the country where you can find a larger population of the "Beautiful" people in the lifestyle assuming that is what you are looking for... I must admit we do like to travel on occasion.
No disrespect to our local friends - you're all super-sexy, rock stars!Hell, I used to think people in their 30s were less than attractive (as "ugly" seems to be out of fashion), but now that I'm mid 30s that's the age that appeals to me the most. I suspect that trend will continue in the years to come so I'm not sweating age too much.
Mr.
SHEKKI,
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with having standards.
These people have let me have it as well for expressing frustration with the assumtion that if your a swinger you will fuck anyone.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with having standards.
These people have let me have it as well for expressing frustration with the assumtion that if your a swinger you will fuck anyone.
I'll tell you a story.
To me, attitude has a lot to do with if I perceive someone as ugly. This particular time, I hooked up with a gorgeous woman that responded to my add on a different site. On a scale of 1 to 10, she was a 9 & 1/2. Her attitued was a 2 though. She was one of those women that expected men to kiss her ass and wait on her hand and foot because of her looks. Don't get me wrong, I did what I had to do to get her in bed and then fucked the hell out of her. I gave her some of my best work but at the end of the day, I would never touch her again. To this day, I still get an occasional email from her every few months.
On the other hand, I still play with a woman that I would consider a 4.5 for the past 3 years. She is one of those women that makes you feel like a king. She makes you feel like I am the only man that can do it right, even though she sees other men. Her attitude is phenominal!
To me, attitude has a lot to do with if I perceive someone as ugly. This particular time, I hooked up with a gorgeous woman that responded to my add on a different site. On a scale of 1 to 10, she was a 9 & 1/2. Her attitued was a 2 though. She was one of those women that expected men to kiss her ass and wait on her hand and foot because of her looks. Don't get me wrong, I did what I had to do to get her in bed and then fucked the hell out of her. I gave her some of my best work but at the end of the day, I would never touch her again. To this day, I still get an occasional email from her every few months.
On the other hand, I still play with a woman that I would consider a 4.5 for the past 3 years. She is one of those women that makes you feel like a king. She makes you feel like I am the only man that can do it right, even though she sees other men. Her attitude is phenominal!
Thank you SHEKKI..for clarifying the why's of your forum posting.
However...even as a "last straw" knee-jerk reaction to some pushy couple that you perceived being perhaps a little obnoxious and assertive (not to mention fat, old and ugly), your approach was...well...reproachable.
Bringing an otherwise personal issue to the public eye, and targeting just one demographic group of swingers based on a narrow set of physical attributes:
Totally uncool dude!
In actuality, if it was indeed pushiness that tossed that proverbial last straw, and not the fact they were ugly...it was more of a personality turn-off than a physical one, don't ya think?
~J~
However...even as a "last straw" knee-jerk reaction to some pushy couple that you perceived being perhaps a little obnoxious and assertive (not to mention fat, old and ugly), your approach was...well...reproachable.
Bringing an otherwise personal issue to the public eye, and targeting just one demographic group of swingers based on a narrow set of physical attributes:
Totally uncool dude!
In actuality, if it was indeed pushiness that tossed that proverbial last straw, and not the fact they were ugly...it was more of a personality turn-off than a physical one, don't ya think?
~J~
Mrs. UtHot loves them fat!! Oh wait, are we talking about body size or cock girth?
I like Ugly, that mean ugly look on your face when I'm pounding you from behind.
Old is good too. Cause when doing you doggie get's "old", we switch to something new..
So, yes, we like fat, ugly and old.. It can be a yummy combination!!
I like Ugly, that mean ugly look on your face when I'm pounding you from behind.
Old is good too. Cause when doing you doggie get's "old", we switch to something new..
So, yes, we like fat, ugly and old.. It can be a yummy combination!!
Okay this will settle this ONCE and for ALL..if MsUTHOT is Soooo hot why is she here with US UGLY FAT LOSERS?!?!?!?Maybe there is someting we dont know about and believe me being BONY AND BLONDE dosent ALAWYS cuts it!So let leave these people to themselves..I GOT ME A HOT BIG GIRL..Whooo!!!Any body else wanna have HOT SEX..TO COMPLETION?!?!?!bye KattNJohn
I like bacon in the morning.
lol drew we like makein bacon lol
Wow, I can say its been a very long time since we have been on this site and the banter back and forth reminds us why.
I think the bottom line for all to remember is this is something we all do for fun and yes of course "kicks" but, at the end of the day were not looking to find a meaningful relationship with others as I would hope you would be in one to begin with if you are in this lifestyle.
The meaningfulness behind this lifestyle derives from the friendships and exploration of ones own sexuality.
If you don't like "pushy people" and you all know who you are! Then there is no need to spend time with them.
Its times like these that make those of us who truly enjoy the lifestyle, the friendships, and the sex have to sit back and re-position ourselves on the defense for believing in a standard or a philosophy behind whom we want to be with.
Each and everyone of you have had a very valid point but, to think that yours is the only one that should be listened to is a human flaw. To get upset because he pushed a button makes one think that you, yourself have issues with your own self image. Weather you think he is talking to you or not you have decided to voice your own opinion (much like myself don't get me wrong)
I think it may be time to look in the mirror once again and realize that you are beautiful regardless of age or "size" and simply because one stranger may feel otherwise because of their own vision of beauty does not need to affect you in such a way.
Theres a motto I tell all my friends and it is the BBB meaning Bigger than, Better than, and more Beautiful than anything anyone else will ever know. Once you are able to grasp the true meaning of that, than you and everyone around you can be at peace with yourself and those that you choose to associate with.
So to each their own and I truly hope all of us find the friendships and "relations" that we each deserve.
xoxo
Mrs. Ultimate
I think the bottom line for all to remember is this is something we all do for fun and yes of course "kicks" but, at the end of the day were not looking to find a meaningful relationship with others as I would hope you would be in one to begin with if you are in this lifestyle.
The meaningfulness behind this lifestyle derives from the friendships and exploration of ones own sexuality.
If you don't like "pushy people" and you all know who you are! Then there is no need to spend time with them.
Its times like these that make those of us who truly enjoy the lifestyle, the friendships, and the sex have to sit back and re-position ourselves on the defense for believing in a standard or a philosophy behind whom we want to be with.
Each and everyone of you have had a very valid point but, to think that yours is the only one that should be listened to is a human flaw. To get upset because he pushed a button makes one think that you, yourself have issues with your own self image. Weather you think he is talking to you or not you have decided to voice your own opinion (much like myself don't get me wrong)
I think it may be time to look in the mirror once again and realize that you are beautiful regardless of age or "size" and simply because one stranger may feel otherwise because of their own vision of beauty does not need to affect you in such a way.
Theres a motto I tell all my friends and it is the BBB meaning Bigger than, Better than, and more Beautiful than anything anyone else will ever know. Once you are able to grasp the true meaning of that, than you and everyone around you can be at peace with yourself and those that you choose to associate with.
So to each their own and I truly hope all of us find the friendships and "relations" that we each deserve.
xoxo
Mrs. Ultimate
Oh sure, why not. Everyone else is getting ripped, who am I to be the exception!
Tequila, I agree with you, Rose is hot. You're not. . .well, leastways I wouldn't fuck you. . . Not my type. . .maybe if you had boobs and female plumbing. . .
So what I'm gathering is that this thread really should have read, "Dammit, I hate pushy people who rip on us because they assume we think we're too good for them, when it's just that we think they're physically repulsive and have visions of Jabba the Hutt." Bad Shekki. Moral of story: don't drive or post angry!
ThoughtGarden. My experience has been that people are generally pretty shallow, myself included. I think seeing "inner beauty" doesn't necessarily mean depth so much as "I've spent enough time with them to get over my lack of attraction to them." I've met plenty of "okay" people who got better looking as I spent more time with them and vice versa depending upon my impression of them as time goes on. To pull an example from movie stars: Helena Bonham Carter in "Room with a View," not hot. Helena Bonham Carter after a few Tim Burton movies, HOT!
Physical beauty (e.g. facial symmetry, general good health, good teeth, etc.), IMO, is a door opener, but it doesn't keep the door open. In my youth, I dated a pageant queen. HOT! 4 months was about all I could stand of that psycho! I'm currently married to the woman of my dreams. She's probably a conservative 8, get to know her, she's a 9+. She and I both know she's never been a physical 10, but she's also one of two women I've ever met who I can call graceful. There's no scale for grace.
Age. In my experience, age = experience. Experience = the possibility of knowing who you are (self-understanding is very attractive to us), the possibility of knowing your way around the bed (you can and care to find the g-spot, right?), and the possibility of holding a decent conversation in the morning, e.g. morning after play, we chatted with our friend about Christmas shopping, which led to my hating most Christmas songs, which led to South Park's Santa vs. Jesus pilot, which led to the nature of god. A good conversation at any time of the day, a great one before breakfast. Age is holds the possibility of good, but it's not a promise.
Fat. A problem I'm pretty sure more prevalent in America than elsewhere. Consider the alternative: thin. Would you prefer an average thin person in sub-Saharan Africa or an average fat person in America? Yeah, I know, I should write children's books.
And finally, the point. Pushy people. Thin or fat, young or old, hot or fugly, they're all unattractive. If others found them attractive, they wouldn't have to be pushy, right? Well, unless that's a kind of kink, which I'm sure it is to some.
Playtoy, this isn't about fun, it's about sexual superiority! **thumps chest** Nice thought about everyone finding the relations they deserve. I'm having visions that pushy people will get the relations they deserve - none. Then they leave, to say bad things about the people they didn't fuck. Just another bitter experience for ugly people.
Tequila, I agree with you, Rose is hot. You're not. . .well, leastways I wouldn't fuck you. . . Not my type. . .maybe if you had boobs and female plumbing. . .
So what I'm gathering is that this thread really should have read, "Dammit, I hate pushy people who rip on us because they assume we think we're too good for them, when it's just that we think they're physically repulsive and have visions of Jabba the Hutt." Bad Shekki. Moral of story: don't drive or post angry!
ThoughtGarden. My experience has been that people are generally pretty shallow, myself included. I think seeing "inner beauty" doesn't necessarily mean depth so much as "I've spent enough time with them to get over my lack of attraction to them." I've met plenty of "okay" people who got better looking as I spent more time with them and vice versa depending upon my impression of them as time goes on. To pull an example from movie stars: Helena Bonham Carter in "Room with a View," not hot. Helena Bonham Carter after a few Tim Burton movies, HOT!
Physical beauty (e.g. facial symmetry, general good health, good teeth, etc.), IMO, is a door opener, but it doesn't keep the door open. In my youth, I dated a pageant queen. HOT! 4 months was about all I could stand of that psycho! I'm currently married to the woman of my dreams. She's probably a conservative 8, get to know her, she's a 9+. She and I both know she's never been a physical 10, but she's also one of two women I've ever met who I can call graceful. There's no scale for grace.
Age. In my experience, age = experience. Experience = the possibility of knowing who you are (self-understanding is very attractive to us), the possibility of knowing your way around the bed (you can and care to find the g-spot, right?), and the possibility of holding a decent conversation in the morning, e.g. morning after play, we chatted with our friend about Christmas shopping, which led to my hating most Christmas songs, which led to South Park's Santa vs. Jesus pilot, which led to the nature of god. A good conversation at any time of the day, a great one before breakfast. Age is holds the possibility of good, but it's not a promise.
Fat. A problem I'm pretty sure more prevalent in America than elsewhere. Consider the alternative: thin. Would you prefer an average thin person in sub-Saharan Africa or an average fat person in America? Yeah, I know, I should write children's books.
And finally, the point. Pushy people. Thin or fat, young or old, hot or fugly, they're all unattractive. If others found them attractive, they wouldn't have to be pushy, right? Well, unless that's a kind of kink, which I'm sure it is to some.
Playtoy, this isn't about fun, it's about sexual superiority! **thumps chest**
Nice thought about everyone finding the relations they deserve. I'm having visions that pushy people will get the relations they deserve - none. Then they leave, to say bad things about the people they didn't fuck. Just another bitter experience for ugly people.superiority?
Hmmmm again its a mirror moment lol have a great night hun!
Hmmmm again its a mirror moment lol
have a great night hun!Inner Beauty is all fine and dandy. However, unless you are attracted to the person first, how will you discover the inner beauty? Maybe he isn't even looking for inner beauty. He just wants a sex partner. In which case, the more physically appealing the better.
BEANYKATT,
huh? What did you settle? That my wife is blonde and hot? She isn't "skinny" either She is perfect in my eyes. I don't like skinny or boney. Why are we here with all the fat and ugly people? Why are you here with all of the thin and pretty people? There are both on this site so I'm not sure what you were getting at with your post. BTW, my wife is far from pretentious or snotty. You say "maybe there is something you don't know about"? Yeah, she used to be a man and we had the operation done. LOL. What you don't know is she likes to fuck! Period! If you were ugly or not wanted, you would never know it with her. She is a sweetheart. I have seen and met women far less attractive that have that "I'm the shit" attitude.
TAMPABLKM,
Your quote: "Don't get me wrong, I did what I had to do to get her in bed and then fucked the hell out of her. I gave her some of my best work but at the end of the day, I would never touch her again".
Hopefully she's not reading your post. Maybe she's the way she is because she knows at the end of the day, guys are just trying to get her into bed at any cost, just so they can give her their best work. Kind of shallow don't you think? And we wonder why couples stray away from single dudes. I think you summed it up..
To the rest of you over-analyzing attraction and meeting the right people. MY GOD, it reminds me of the "Miracle of life". Anyone ever see that? They make it seem like it's impossible for pregnancy to happen because of the so many intricate physiological timings taking place. Body temperature, sperm strength and count and ability to find the egg, then getting into the egg to fertilize it, hostile bacteria, PH, optimal fertility time, egg attaching to the uterus lining etc etc...
What happened for us was, we had sex, and BAM! she got pregnant. 5 times! No big deal right? Not according to that movie..
My point is, you can analyze the scientific side of attraction and what makes certain couples and/or singles click. But it's much simpler than that isn't it? You "Just know". We can usually tell within the first 30 seconds if we are going to like a couple or single. Yes, a lot of people get more attractive as you get to know them, if you like them initially. But this isn't rocket science folks. It's just a bunch of liberal-minded (sexually), mostly secure, sexual people looking to have a good time. Let's not ruin all of the fun by over-analyzing. Let's just apply Occam's razor ( "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." ) The key words are "equal" and "simple". We all have our idea of a match. Just have fun meeting people, and eventually you'll find it. No need to post on a forum about your bad experiences. Tell us about your good ones. Your feedback will definitely be more postive.
huh? What did you settle? That my wife is blonde and hot? She isn't "skinny" either She is perfect in my eyes. I don't like skinny or boney. Why are we here with all the fat and ugly people? Why are you here with all of the thin and pretty people? There are both on this site so I'm not sure what you were getting at with your post. BTW, my wife is far from pretentious or snotty. You say "maybe there is something you don't know about"? Yeah, she used to be a man and we had the operation done. LOL. What you don't know is she likes to fuck! Period! If you were ugly or not wanted, you would never know it with her. She is a sweetheart. I have seen and met women far less attractive that have that "I'm the shit" attitude.
TAMPABLKM,
Your quote: "Don't get me wrong, I did what I had to do to get her in bed and then fucked the hell out of her. I gave her some of my best work but at the end of the day, I would never touch her again".
Hopefully she's not reading your post. Maybe she's the way she is because she knows at the end of the day, guys are just trying to get her into bed at any cost, just so they can give her their best work. Kind of shallow don't you think? And we wonder why couples stray away from single dudes. I think you summed it up..
To the rest of you over-analyzing attraction and meeting the right people. MY GOD, it reminds me of the "Miracle of life". Anyone ever see that? They make it seem like it's impossible for pregnancy to happen because of the so many intricate physiological timings taking place. Body temperature, sperm strength and count and ability to find the egg, then getting into the egg to fertilize it, hostile bacteria, PH, optimal fertility time, egg attaching to the uterus lining etc etc...
What happened for us was, we had sex, and BAM! she got pregnant. 5 times! No big deal right? Not according to that movie..
My point is, you can analyze the scientific side of attraction and what makes certain couples and/or singles click. But it's much simpler than that isn't it? You "Just know". We can usually tell within the first 30 seconds if we are going to like a couple or single. Yes, a lot of people get more attractive as you get to know them, if you like them initially. But this isn't rocket science folks. It's just a bunch of liberal-minded (sexually), mostly secure, sexual people looking to have a good time. Let's not ruin all of the fun by over-analyzing. Let's just apply Occam's razor ( "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best." ) The key words are "equal" and "simple". We all have our idea of a match. Just have fun meeting people, and eventually you'll find it. No need to post on a forum about your bad experiences. Tell us about your good ones. Your feedback will definitely be more postive.
I am sorry but I must be corny? I believe that beauty starts from the inside. I admit there have been a few times when I have not clicked with a couple or a woman but it was not because of there appearance unless it was bad hygiene. It was that we did not click. Thats all I have to say to that!
this thread makes my balls itch
you should use tough actin' tinactin!
WOW. a post that got everyones attention.
not just the Utah crowd i see in chat and does not reply back.
I am glad to see that many of the people agree that this was a horrible post.
I sure hope I never writhe something like that.
perhaps if i had a partner to alk things out with and actually despected their opinion something like this would never be typed.
I wish you all Happy Holidays and sure would like to hear from some of you.
not just the Utah crowd i see in chat and does not reply back.
I am glad to see that many of the people agree that this was a horrible post.
I sure hope I never writhe something like that.
perhaps if i had a partner to alk things out with and actually despected their opinion something like this would never be typed.
I wish you all Happy Holidays and sure would like to hear from some of you.
Boy I sure wish all the people I associate with were 10's.Including all my family and my wife's family.Heaven forbid with all these 10's around that some one would have a little extra around the waist,or maybe they just wear their belt too tight.For people that do not swap what difference does it make what another looks like as long as they like what you like?I understand the part about being too pushy but not all fat,old,and ugly folks are like that,a lot of good looking people are that way too,both couples and singles.In our experiences when some one won't take no for an answer we just block them from further contact.
Just a humble opinion from an old,ugly,fat guy.
Just a humble opinion from an old,ugly,fat guy.
I can fully understand where SHEKK is coming from, and his snap moment, but alas, unless we have a definitive "retirement" age planned, as GG said, we will all fall into the category of "eeeeewwwww" at some point.
We have been flamed many a times for polite no thanks, hell it is easier to not respond or come back with a snarky "sorry this ride has a weight limit" comment than to try and be nice and plainly state, "thanks, but no thanks".
Attraction is personal, not everybody will think your hot, hell i feel like we get lucky if 1 in 10 will find both of us attractive!
At some point people, you do have to be a bit realistic in who you are emailing and chasing, if you are 50 and pushing 300lbs don't email a 25yo couple that have bodies so hard you could injur yourself (unless of course that is what they say they want in their profile). We are over 35 but look alright for our ages, so we will go out on a limb now and then and send an email to some younger hotties, if we get nothing back...oh well.
You also have to look at common ground, I am not going to have a lot in common with people 15 years older than me who don't even know where the nearest gym is. Perfection is not required, as GG also put so well, life is about living and wheather it is cheescake or Maggie Moo's dark chocolate ice cream with almonds and brownie bits, there are some things in life that need to be savored.....but I am pretty sure mcdonalds and wendy's could be passed up with some regularity as well
We have been flamed many a times for polite no thanks, hell it is easier to not respond or come back with a snarky "sorry this ride has a weight limit" comment than to try and be nice and plainly state, "thanks, but no thanks".
Attraction is personal, not everybody will think your hot, hell i feel like we get lucky if 1 in 10 will find both of us attractive!
At some point people, you do have to be a bit realistic in who you are emailing and chasing, if you are 50 and pushing 300lbs don't email a 25yo couple that have bodies so hard you could injur yourself (unless of course that is what they say they want in their profile). We are over 35 but look alright for our ages, so we will go out on a limb now and then and send an email to some younger hotties, if we get nothing back...oh well.
You also have to look at common ground, I am not going to have a lot in common with people 15 years older than me who don't even know where the nearest gym is. Perfection is not required, as GG also put so well, life is about living and wheather it is cheescake or Maggie Moo's dark chocolate ice cream with almonds and brownie bits, there are some things in life that need to be savored.....but I am pretty sure mcdonalds and wendy's could be passed up with some regularity as well
well we are the bomb lol . ok so were not ken and barbie but were a fuk load of fun. we have some freinds that are not attractive to us and we in turn dont play with them but there are wonderfull people to know. show some lov .give every one a hug today lov Ron n Lissa
well we are the bomb lol . ok so were not ken and barbie but were a fuk load of fun. we have some freinds that are not attractive to us and we in turn dont play with them but there are wonderfull people to know. show some lov .give every one a hug today lov Ron n Lissa
Posted By: SHEKKI
its funny coming from someone that has no photos on
his/her profile,,what did he/she break the camera,lol
eat this
kristylynn
its funny coming from someone that has no photos on
his/her profile,,what did he/she break the camera,lol
eat this
kristylynn
i agree with shekki, and have come to the conclusion that hot chicks dont swing, at least not on any of these sites, but i have enjoyed meeting and bullshitting with everyone weve met so far. Pitdaddy
SINFUL,
It "is" clich
It "is" clich
PITDADDY,
On the contrary, there are soooo many hot women on this site, BUT where the hell are all the Hot men?
On the contrary, there are soooo many hot women on this site, BUT where the hell are all the Hot men?
CLASSY,
Mrs. UtHot just said Amen to your post..
Mrs. UtHot just said Amen to your post..
Kelly and I started in this lifestyle when I was 21. I worked at a local strip bar called Northern Exposure. I felt and acted hot. Did this make me shallow..... it is all in the opion of the person being asked. Over the years swinging has changed immensly for us. We have taken many breaks because we would get fustrated with how things were going. I am now 34 and have 4 boys. I am not that sexy little devil I thought I was..... but I am still the biggest horndog ever! We have met a ton of great people and a ton of bad people. We have watched this lifestyle tear up relationships also. We have also had our bad times. People change in their attitude and desires constantly and as bad as most people think it is I remember a time when I (Tasha) thought the same way as Shekki. It takes time to become someone with taste and people will make mistakes and handle things wrong while they come to this realization. Thank god that there wasn't as much of an internet community when we first started out.... I would have looked much worse than I really am!
Hey Classy!!! Heres another AMEN to that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mrs. Playtoy!!!
Mrs. Playtoy!!!
SHEKKI, I could go on and on about this subject, but the basis here is that YOU JUST DON'T GET IT, and you probably never will. Therefore it would be wasted words on my part.
In short, one person's 5 is another person's 10. You're comments are made from YOUR perceptions of others, not EVERYONES perceptions of others, and from the arrogant idea that everyone should think as you do. It is more than obvious from comments like "they must be bored with each other" and "they are trying to trade-up" that you don't understand this lifestyle and therefore really aren't ready to even be near it.
But, that said, I hope you find what you are looking for, whatever it may be.
Mr. CARESS4U
In short, one person's 5 is another person's 10. You're comments are made from YOUR perceptions of others, not EVERYONES perceptions of others, and from the arrogant idea that everyone should think as you do. It is more than obvious from comments like "they must be bored with each other" and "they are trying to trade-up" that you don't understand this lifestyle and therefore really aren't ready to even be near it.
But, that said, I hope you find what you are looking for, whatever it may be.
Mr. CARESS4U
PITMOMMY: Huh??
This post certainly has gotten alot of attention. Yes there are many "HOT" woman on this site. I consider my wife a HOT woman also, and not just by her outer looks. Just think if everyone looked the same and had the same likes and dislikes the world would be dull as hell. Example: We would have any reason to debate over this subject, no need to all would have the same opinion.
Hell there are several we would like to meet up with but our profile wasn't catchy enough or some damn thing to some people. However we sure have fun with the ones that took time to check us out.
Uthot I agree with most of what you say: and here is another cliche' you can't judge a book by it's cover.
Bottom line is looks are superficial but the true person comes from inside, (ie personality) to us that is the most important part.
Mr. Twobears
Hell there are several we would like to meet up with but our profile wasn't catchy enough or some damn thing to some people. However we sure have fun with the ones that took time to check us out.
Uthot I agree with most of what you say: and here is another cliche' you can't judge a book by it's cover.
Bottom line is looks are superficial but the true person comes from inside, (ie personality) to us that is the most important part.
Mr. Twobears
Hey Classy not trashy here iam! but maybe iam not as hot as i would like to think because ive contacted UTHOTCPLEXTREME and never got a reply back, perhaps my email didnt go through? pitdaddy
Gosh...maybe we're hotter than we knew, we've been both been contacted by UTHOT and hung out in person (using Mr. PITMOMMY'S logic of course).
Way to go K/A...betcha didn't know you were the definitive markers of hotness...that most would hope to attain.
haha
Way to go K/A...betcha didn't know you were the definitive markers of hotness...that most would hope to attain.
haha
I think we need a group hug ! :-)
wonder what hug group we will end up in? lol
Better be ours UTAH-CPL
Dang TG... Cyn and I miss bumping uglies with you two at the parties now.
After reading all of the posts on this thread, I am suprised no yet has stated the old line that I know we have all heard so often... and the one that helped me marry a hottie like Cyn...
OPPOSITES ATTRACT !
You can all sort out the rest of the details on on your own. (smile)
HYM.
After reading all of the posts on this thread, I am suprised no yet has stated the old line that I know we have all heard so often... and the one that helped me marry a hottie like Cyn...
OPPOSITES ATTRACT !
You can all sort out the rest of the details on on your own. (smile)
HYM.
Ok, I tried to read all the post but I got bored....but I have a question.
What IS "ugly"?
Is it the extra weight?
Is it the stretch marks?
Is it scars?
Is it being too tall? Or too short?
Having Brown eyes or maybe Blue??
Her boobs are too small?
Her ass is too big?
I only ask so that I know who to avoid.
I'm not a 10 by any means. I do like to have that piece of cheesecake!!
I'm tired of worrying about whether or not I'm good enough for someone on this site. I already know that I am all my man *needs* to be happy...that doesn't mean that we wouldn't like to find some extra playmates though.
So I guess my bottom line is...you can like me for my laugh, my eyes, my friendship, my personality...but if all you are concerned with is my body then you need to keep lookn.
Yes looks (physical attraction) are important, but we have already found that just because you are attracted to someone physically doesn't mean that they aren't gonna be a pain in the ass (an not in a good way).
So good luck in finding that elusive "attractive couple".
I'll be here eating my cheesecake.
*Amber
What IS "ugly"?
Is it the extra weight?
Is it the stretch marks?
Is it scars?
Is it being too tall? Or too short?
Having Brown eyes or maybe Blue??
Her boobs are too small?
Her ass is too big?
I only ask so that I know who to avoid.
I'm not a 10 by any means. I do like to have that piece of cheesecake!!
I'm tired of worrying about whether or not I'm good enough for someone on this site. I already know that I am all my man *needs* to be happy...that doesn't mean that we wouldn't like to find some extra playmates though.
So I guess my bottom line is...you can like me for my laugh, my eyes, my friendship, my personality...but if all you are concerned with is my body then you need to keep lookn.
Yes looks (physical attraction) are important, but we have already found that just because you are attracted to someone physically doesn't mean that they aren't gonna be a pain in the ass (an not in a good way).
So good luck in finding that elusive "attractive couple".
I'll be here eating my cheesecake.
*Amber
Ya gotta love a good cupcake !!! :-)
DOMINIQUEDIRK, Neither of you guys fit our bill either. So don't feel offended. I've already got a hot assed wife and hearing someone, that I am not attracted to, tell me that I am unattractive, makes me feel indifferent. So seriously, no offense was taken at all.
Everyone else, That brings me to another question... Who really gives a fuck? Who the fuck are we trying to impress? I could give a fuck if any of you think I am hot. There is only one person I try to impress and that's my wife. If Shekki says he does not like "fat old ugly people", Who gives a shit? If you think that is tactless, it's obvious that you don't like tactless people. LOL!
I would suggest we all focus less on those that are not attracted to us and more on those that are. Why focus on things that we are not attracted to??? Like anything, if we don't like something, we avoid it. There is plenty of fetishes I have ran into on this site that I will not tell anyone else they are wrong for enjoying, but I myself, am either revolted, unattracted or just plain don't see the point of it. Why would I? Who the fuck am I to ridicule or judge those that do not meet my own standard? Our standards are our own and though others may have similar tastes, we do not all share the same. There is always someone for everyone.
-D-
-D-
Everyone else, That brings me to another question... Who really gives a fuck? Who the fuck are we trying to impress? I could give a fuck if any of you think I am hot. There is only one person I try to impress and that's my wife. If Shekki says he does not like "fat old ugly people", Who gives a shit? If you think that is tactless, it's obvious that you don't like tactless people. LOL!
I would suggest we all focus less on those that are not attracted to us and more on those that are. Why focus on things that we are not attracted to??? Like anything, if we don't like something, we avoid it. There is plenty of fetishes I have ran into on this site that I will not tell anyone else they are wrong for enjoying, but I myself, am either revolted, unattracted or just plain don't see the point of it. Why would I? Who the fuck am I to ridicule or judge those that do not meet my own standard? Our standards are our own and though others may have similar tastes, we do not all share the same. There is always someone for everyone.
-D-
-D-
LOOKN,
Did you really say Brown Eye and Blue eyes? You can eat your GD cheesecake all day and I'll spend all my time tapping your nice behind. And as the song would say, "Don't it make your brown eye blue... LOL. Ok, it's eye's.. I changed the lyrics for your behalf.
We have yet to meet you, but my perception of you, your wit, your sweetness, etc. is that I would love nothing more than hanging out with you, or in you.. (me smiling). I'll have to raise my hand too, as guilty for posting replies that were probably long and boring. I think the wife and I's biggest hang-up has been, that we have been labeled before, and we really don't like the stereotypes. We are as fun as Ma and Pa kettle. Just not as old. lol.
So when do we get to sample the cheesecake?
Mr. UtHot
Did you really say Brown Eye and Blue eyes? You can eat your GD cheesecake all day and I'll spend all my time tapping your nice behind. And as the song would say, "Don't it make your brown eye blue... LOL. Ok, it's eye's.. I changed the lyrics for your behalf.
We have yet to meet you, but my perception of you, your wit, your sweetness, etc. is that I would love nothing more than hanging out with you, or in you.. (me smiling). I'll have to raise my hand too, as guilty for posting replies that were probably long and boring. I think the wife and I's biggest hang-up has been, that we have been labeled before, and we really don't like the stereotypes. We are as fun as Ma and Pa kettle. Just not as old. lol.
So when do we get to sample the cheesecake?
Mr. UtHot
HYM,
Damn, does Cyn actually ride in those chaps? If she does, let us know the time and place so I can take some pics, or some video.
TG,
We could only dream that we were any sort of guage to hotness. We'd prefer your guage, which is hotness, universal appeal, and swinging ubiquity. Wanna trade?
Damn, does Cyn actually ride in those chaps? If she does, let us know the time and place so I can take some pics, or some video.
TG,
We could only dream that we were any sort of guage to hotness. We'd prefer your guage, which is hotness, universal appeal, and swinging ubiquity. Wanna trade?
Oh my God, this thread is like a car accident....ya don't want to look, but you can't stop yourself.... 
LOL
LOLYou don't want to look, but the DAMN CHAT IS STILL DOWN!!!!!! Our frustration is being taken out on this stupid thread. LOL
Chat is overrated. You can formulate your ideas better before you write them in the forum. Chat is just meaningless small talk most of the time. Just my opinion of course. Not that this is the most mentally rewarding thread ever LOL!
The only drawback to the forum is the redundancy of the threads. My website wishlist contains moderation that moves duplicate bullshit and a search function that actually works.
-D-
The only drawback to the forum is the redundancy of the threads. My website wishlist contains moderation that moves duplicate bullshit and a search function that actually works.
-D-