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Hello all,

We just returned from a vacation in Europe to find some interesting things being posted on the Swingular forums. After reading a few of these posts and then contacting our attorneys, we wanted to let everyone know what we know so far.

As far as we can gather, the postings by GSC are an attempt to scare the members and management of Swingular. We have not seen or received any 'OFFICIAL' correspondence (emails, letters, etc..) from said party or their counsel. At this point, we do not know what their allegations are since we have not received anything.

Our attorneys have informed us that they will seek out any and all information possible if such issues exist.

In the meantime, we will be contacting GSC directly and hope for a response. Our attorneys will be filing suit against GSC for defamation and slander against Swingular and loss of income due to their postings, etc... whether or not any issues by them exist.

At this point, we want to assure our members that their privacy is protected and that Swingular will continue to operate as normal. We will post new information as we receive it.

Thank you,

Swingular Management
Welcome Back Rob Hope you had a great Time in Europe....

Thumper
Thanks for putting an end to the mindless blather! It was getting a little redundant!
~Classy~
Honestly...we're still scratching our heads and have a look of stupor about us wondering WHAT the crap GSC was talking about in all that gobletygook....
It's seems kind of strange that we are not hearing from GSC. He seemed very adamant about contacting management with the accusations about the website and "certain members". I wonder why they're so quiet now... Hmmm.


I would also like to repost the website GSC created publicly so that everyone can bear witness for Rob, that GSC launched a defamation campaign against Swingular. GSC's website is here:

http://ntaktagfinf.web150.discountasp.net

For what it is worth, it is my contention that GSC, in an attempt to gain money from swingular members (please note the <script>document.write('<a href="ht'+'tp://ntaktagfinf.web150.discountasp.net/contact/us.a'+'spx" target="_blank">"donations"</a>');</script> page on the NTAKTAGF webite), by trumping up false allegations of security and privacy infringments. Fueled by a sour past with certain individuals on this site, myself being one such individual. GSC did knowingly and willfully wage a "smear" campaign" against Swingular and it's owner, in an attempt to pressure the Swingular Staff into punishing other members of the website for their abrasive exchange of words in the forum. It was also a lame attempt to gain sympathy and <b>money</b> from swingular members. I hope no one was foolish to fall for that shit.

I am sure there is more than one person on this website that will attest to the many instances where GSC wrote that they would seek any means available to defame swingular.

-D-
gett'em TR.....we have read most of the post(laughing our ass off) and glad to see the light of day is coming!
"Never take a knife to a gunfight" -anon-

Has anyone read this in the messages, postings or the shit that GSC has started to spew?

Maybe this should be the quote they should read:

"Don't spew out your mouth when it is already coming out of your throat, because it has been cut by your own self inflicted wound" - FunDo4You -

"Careful, It's possible for one's tongue, to slit one's throat!" - FunDo4You -


Happy Halloween - Happy HAUNTINGS!
HEAR HEAR!
We trust that Rob knows what he is doing and we appreciate the site and what he has done for so many. Thanks Rob
S&D
Ding dong the witch is dead, the wicked witch, the GSC witch....
Thanks for taking care of this matter Rob. Hopefully, this kind of thing doesn't happen again ever.
Ok.. Call me Johnny cum lately.. but.. given what this GSC is spewing on his website .. ( THANKS TR ! )

we have a poorly deluded individual that believes that the FIRST AMMENDMENT allows him to join private organization and then with said memebrship do as they please..

Primarily, given I havent read ALL the information I can say without a shadow of a doubt, this is not the case..

FREEDOM of SPEECH has basic rules, sort of like the whole YELLING FIRE in a crowded movie house.. Just because you paid to get in doesnt mean that you can yell it whenever you feel like it..

Look, in this great nation we are allowed to do alot of things, pursuit of happiness being one of them... Wait for it...


BUT!

The very freedoms and ideals BEHIND this, doesnt allow or provide for it to extend to PRIVATE organizations.. The owners of any establishment have the RIGHT to refuse, or cancel memberships of members who can not or will not follow the rules..

Lets bottom line this.. much the same as the PICTURE album pages have rules, so do everything else on this site... READ EM!

If this person was posting offensive material, questionable material, or tasteless material.. it violates the membership agreement we all digitally signed when we joined..

In the words of a great man.. it aint over til the fat lady sings..

Folks she just left the stage...
The difference between he and people like me, is that I am not threatening anyone when I choose to use colorful adjectives to voice my opinion. I am not threatening to violate others' privacy. What I say is in jest and often banter. GSC was trying to stop what the 1st ammendment protects, when he complained about me, because I was only expressing an opinion in my own way.

The way he chose to exact his revenge wasn't protected by free speech, because he chose to threaten the site and it's members. There is a big difference. It's easy to ignore someone you don't agree with, it's not easy to ignore someone threatening to compromise your privacy or sue you. Especially someone that is keeping that non-sense on the frontpage everyday through spamming and flooding the forum in an attempt to keep it on the front page.


With regard to "Free Speech", remember, <i>anyone</i> can use the "I'm offended" excuse to silence a person and their views. People like that, often draw the line of "socially acceptable", based upon their own dogma or sense of morals and all else is deemed "offensive" or "socially unacceptable" and should not be tolerated as free speech. It's a perfect excuse for bigotry. Remember, we don't all float in the same social circles.

Often, instead of exercising tolerance and donning a thicker skin, when diving into a diverse pool of people, learning what the true meaning of diversity is, some of us choose to take offense to everything as a way to draw attention ourselves. Some make it their life's ambition to find ways to be offended. The try and make others conform to their sense of right and wrong. Is that the way it should be? Remember, swinging is offensive to mainstream society... So, before you judge people for what they say, and how they say it, look at yourselves and apply that logic to you.


-D-
As most of you know, we do not monitor the forums very much as we expect everyone, being adults, to be able to handle matters on their own. There have been quite a few times, though, when things have gone a bit out of hand but people voiced their opinions and I dealt with it appropriately.

If a situation like that happens again, there are steps that can be taken to resolve these issues and it starts with contacting an administrator. Our next step would then be to handle the issue with the parties privately and go from there.

We definitely want our members to be able to speak freely and voice their opinions but we also want this to be a fun place as that is the original intention behind meeting and hooking up with others as this site provides. The occasional heated debate is definitely a nice change of things once in a while but we can't forget what we all initially came here for and that is to make new friends, not enemies.

With that said, we will continue to refrain from interfering in the forums but will step in when absolutely necessary. Hopefully, we can avoid a situation like this in the future so Swingular will always be around for you to enjoy.

Thanks to all our members, we truly do appreciate each and every one of you.

Rob & Kate
TAKE IT PRIVATE!
Well GSC,

you definitely haven't stopped being a moron. I'm surprised you still have an account here. Nobody wants to see or hear about your threats anymore. They aren't something we should be looking at anyway. You need to take up your ridiculous cry-baby bullshit with the admin like they have already stated. Bottom line. Get a life, go away, and get the fuck out of here!!

Mr. UtHot.
Agreed Mr. X! ADMIN has an email. There is no need to post this garbage on the forum.

-D-
KEEP IT PRIVATE, NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR IT!

-D-
OMG!!!

Are you an illiterate asshole or what??? WE DON"T GIVE A SHIT!! Post it somewhere else!!! This isn't our site, this isn't our battle, and no one cares!!

You have got to be the most absent-minded jerk on the planet! GO AWAY!!

Mr. X

PS - ROB (Admin) will you please delete this ass?
PS-

I looked up those tracking numbers. They are actually packages ordered by GSC, from the website called:

Big black rubber dicks for unsatisfied white chicks .com....


:)
He is still trying to intimidate Rob. The FBI isn't going to do shit. This moron doesn't have anything. If he were trully serious, his counsel would be telling him to be silent. He's a moron that needs to go away.


-D-
Yes I understand.... Just like I play tennis now because golf balls don't have feathers..

Understand?
GSC,

I have stayed out of this for the purpose of reducing the drama on the forums, however....Seeing how you refuse to make this a private matter between yourself and Administrator....

You keep posting all of these tracking number's, hell even I can find tracking numbers for delivery in specific cities. What does a tracking number really prove? That some thing was delivered or is being shipped. It speaks nothing of its contents.

What i propose is this... post up the pdf of said documents that you are Fed Ex'ing all over the country.

I propose that you provide this or go away, and silently in the process. I among others are tired of reading this saga.

Post proof of your accusations.
THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE MEMBERSHIP!!! WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR RANTING AND RAVING. WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR BOGUS TRACKING NUMBERS. TAKE YOUR THREATS ELSEWHERE! NO ONE BELIEVE'S YOU EXCEPT THE PEOPLE YOU ARE SCAMMING OUT OF THEIR MONEY. GO AWAY!

-D-
This is all it says:

Tracking Summary | Help

Tracking Number: 1Z A69 13A 01 6997 397 1

Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Sched. Delivery: 11/02/2007
Service: NEXT DAY AIR

Tracking Number: 1Z A69 13A 01 3664 197 1

Type: Package
Status: In Transit - On Time
Sched. Delivery: 11/02/2007
Service: NEXT DAY AIR

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 11/02/2007.

Tracking Number: 1Z A69 13A 01 7122 550 6

Type: Package
Status: In Transit - On Time
Sched. Delivery: 11/02/2007
Service: NEXT DAY AIR

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 11/02/2007.

Tracking Number: 1Z A69 13A 01 6997 663 8

Type: Package
Status: In Transit - On Time
Sched. Delivery: 11/02/2007
Service: NEXT DAY AIR

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 11/02/2007.

Tracking Number: 1Z A69 13A 01 7122 683 6

Type: Package
Status: In Transit - On Time
Sched. Delivery: 11/02/2007
Service: NEXT DAY AIR

Your package is on time with a scheduled delivery date of 11/02/2007.

Tracking Number: 1Z A69 13A 01 6997 796 8

Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Sched. Delivery: 11/02/2007
Service: NEXT DAY AIR



Tracking results provided by UPS: 11/01/2007 10:06 P.M. ET



Are they requests for psychological evaluations to every shrink in the world? I hope so...
Drew,

He is a bag of hot air that is just trying to scam other members out of their "Jacksons". He wants to use terrorist tactics to scam members into sending him money. This is extortion plain and simple. This moron is just giving Rob more evidence to use against him in a civil case.

Mr. X,

So very scarey. Everything this guy has said has yet to happen. Every threat he's made has been bullshit. If anyone out there is actually giving this retard money, I suggest that the cease. <b>This guy is a scam artist.</b>

-D-
I contacted UPS and told them that I needed them to verify a package due to a very sensitive and private matter. They agreed. I asked them if they could kindly open the package, take a photo of the contents and send me the picture. This is what I got back. It appears these tracking numbers are coming to GSC's address in Utah. Hmmm, Nice going GSC..
Hey Don't forget:

UtHotCplextreme: 6 posts... (7 including this one)
UTNY,

That would be the individual that keeps posting threats to swingular, <b>GOODSKICOUPLE</b>. Thanks.

-D-
UTNY,

It'll be ok. It will all be over soon. For the record, your post too, added to the "Crap". But thanks for helping us keep the drama going.

:)
This is something I just received from an anonymous source. This email was forwarded to me. The original was sent by GSC to this source. Here it is:

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<font color="green">
On 10/30/07, NTAKTAGF <[email protected]> wrote:

Evening swingers.



The new site location is: http://www.ntaktagf.info



We have busy jobs like the rest of you, so we are sorry that the site is moving slowly. We have to be a bit careful with the login sign for obvious reasons. We don't know a thing about web design and we aren't really that interested in learning either LOL! But, we know we are stuck with it for now.



Swingular has run amuck and is effectively being controlled from the inside by a few select members. Be careful out there. Legal counsel IS monitoring the forums. Computer security is POOR at best. The more venomous Forum posters are trying to Google, search, find, or create any dirt they can to muddy the water here. We've taken a pretty good bashing, but we're OK so far.



It looks like TR and his "Free Thinkers" have really roughed up some swingers on this site. Since we've opened up for donations to help pay the bills for this cause, we have received $1,340 in cash in envelopes sent to the POB. Not a single one of these letters has a return address, which is smart. If you know who goes down, he will fight dirty. Do not leave any sensitive information out there in your accounts. We are positive that certain members at Swingular have cracked other members passwords (including ours).



1. Change your password to at least ten characters, including special characters. Currently free software on the internet can crack a 8 character password in 60 minutes. Adding 2 or more characters makes cracking much more difficult.

2. If Swingular is hosting your personal web page
Yet more evidence of this guys scam:

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<font color="green">
Big Swingular bonfire last evening. This campaign won't be decided in the Forums
$1300+ ?? Are you Fkng kidding me??
GSC,

if you get a box of dogshit, it didn't come from me...

;)
all I can do is LMAO ..........

Thumper
Has anyone gone to the Site http://www.ntaktagf.info/ ..... funny thing is its been changed from what it was ........

Thumper
Please understand, I was in no way defending the person in question..

Rather pointing out that, much like anyone listening to Howard Stern or watching something they find offensive.. turn the channel.. DONT LISTEN

If someone BUYS HBO's monthly service, and gets offended when they put REAL SEX, or BROKEBACK MT on.. they cant go bitch to officials, in the company or the government, and expect to get results, they BOUGHT the service, and have the option of using it OR not..

That was the whole idea behind pointing out, the difference between thier FIRST AMMENDMENT rights, and joining a website, and spewing whatever they want.. they under the CONSTITUTION can... BUT, its up to the owners to say.. OK.. or NO you can't..

See what I mean?

Personally, this is person is usuing the whole, I tripped in the parking lot, I want a million dollars mentality..

Wrong is wrong, and I couldnt agree more with the MEMBERSHIP when we ALL say..

ENOUGH...
GoodSki,

I posted the wrong number for you too. Please call 1-800-eat-shit.

Thank You.
Lookie what I found in my inbox today.....

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From: NTAKTAGF [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 4:37 PM
To: '[email protected]'
Subject: NTAK Update Fri 11/02 Kind of long.

Swingers,

Here is an update as of Friday, November 02, 2007. SW Admin did contact NTAK counsel today. The essentials of this conversation were relayed to us by counsel over the phone.

As we understand it, Rob has removed GSC
Why didn't his "counsel" use the 800 number. This guy is a scam artist. You know what's great??? He's reading this right now and can't say shit in response HAHAHAHAHA!!!


<p style="line-height: 78%; font-size: 32pt;">HEY GSC,

YOU LIKE <font color="ff0000">APPLES</font>?</p>

<script>document.write('<embed wmode="transparent" src="ht'+'tp://w'+'ww.ericzhang.com/music/?url=ht'+'tp://ww'+'w.filenanny.com/files/46bf5b44229665422/Lonely.mp'+'3&autostart=true" quality="high" pluginspage="ht'+'tp://w'+'ww.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="150" height="50"></embed>');</script><div style="width: 375px; height: 20px; background-color: orange; position: absolute; left: 40%; top: 250px;"><p style="color: #ffffff; padding: 12px;">TURN UP YOUR SOUND AND WAIT FOR THE SONG TO LOAD!</p></div>
<p style="line-height: 60%; font-size: 8pt;"><sub>In remembrance of our dear friend, GOODSKICOUPLE. "Mr. Lonely" performed by Bobby Vinton</sub></p>
Man, TR, I gotta make sure never to getcha pissed. LOL, that made us laugh. (Both of us. LOL)
People in glass houses should not throw stones. NTAKTAGF Research Fund is not registered with the State of Utah as a company or non-profit. https://secure.utah.gov/bes/action/index

Someone needs to mail them a check, let them cash it, and then report the fraud to the IRS.
What is the latest news on the drama? Did anyone find out what was in GSC's UPS packages?
No idea what is in those packages, but I am going to guess:
1) Penis pump
2) a box full of suction cup dildos
3) a tube of anal-eze
4) 2 tubes of sta-hard
5) some women's lingerie, man-sized
6) a 'how to pirate a website for dummies' book
7) another box of suction cup dildos
8) a box of flaming dog shit
9) a copy of the pamphlet 'how to behave like an adult in public'- unread and unnecessary