More silliness from the Utah State Board of Alcohol Control
Liquor commissioner wants booze out of view
Coray says a glass wall isn't enough to ensure diners aren't offended
By Dawn House
The Salt Lake Tribune
Liquor control commissioner Bobbie Coray asked her colleagues on Wednesday to consider a rule to cover up bottles of booze displayed at restaurants because some diners may be offended at the sight of alcohol.
A glass partition between bartenders and customers required under current regulations may not be enough, Coray told her fellow liquor control commissioners at their monthly meeting.
Coray, a lone holdout opposing liquor licenses for strip bars, now wants the commission to place more restrictions on glass partitions in restaurants. She called the partitions "a Zion curtain," imposed to satisfy Mormons whose faith eschews alcohol.
Although the four other commissioners have not supported Coray in her quest to take away liquor licenses from sexually oriented establishments, they did not indicate whether they would back Corey's bid to keep alcohol out of view.
Glass walls don't obscure the alcohol, said Coray, a nondrinker, turning the "atmosphere in a restaurant to more of a bar." She singled out the Cheesecake Factory, which opens its first Utah outlet at Fashion Place in Murray on Nov. 1, because alcohol bottles are in plain view.
"We have a dual responsibility," she said. "We are to make alcohol available for those who want to consume it and at the same time not make anyone uncomfortable."
Current regulations involving glass partitions can be tricky.
At Squatters Pub Brewery in Salt Lake City, servers constantly must explain Utah liquor laws to befuddled customers - both visitors and locals - said general manager Scott Evans
Patrons can buy a glass of beer downstairs at one bar, which has a tavern license. But in the loft upstairs, which has a full-service liquor license, diners may not order a drink at the counter. Instead, servers instruct customers to take a seat because alcohol may only be served at dining tables
"It's a constant challenge to explain Utah liquor laws," said Evans. "And this is true for most every restaurant in downtown Salt Lake City."
Compliance director Earl Dorius said the courts allow restaurants to show or advertise liquor stocks.
Six years ago, the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals forced Utah to lift a state-imposed ban against liquor advertising. That ban prevented restaurants from showing wine and spirits lists when advertising that they sold alcohol.
For her part, Coray defended Utah's liquor laws, saying she's challenged the public to come up with one "quirky" liquor statute, and so far, no one has. "Maybe it's just a perception of a problem," said Coray. "People haven't been able to point out any silly laws to me."
I would like to invite everyone to contact the governor and voice your displeasure at the policies of Bobbie Coray. Governor Huntsman has the power to either remove her from her position or at least speak with her regarding the offensive and divisive rules she seeks to enact. Governor Huntsman can be contacted here: http://governor.utah.gov/goca/form_comment.html
Liquor commissioner wants booze out of view
Coray says a glass wall isn't enough to ensure diners aren't offended
By Dawn House
The Salt Lake Tribune
Liquor control commissioner Bobbie Coray asked her colleagues on Wednesday to consider a rule to cover up bottles of booze displayed at restaurants because some diners may be offended at the sight of alcohol.
A glass partition between bartenders and customers required under current regulations may not be enough, Coray told her fellow liquor control commissioners at their monthly meeting.
Coray, a lone holdout opposing liquor licenses for strip bars, now wants the commission to place more restrictions on glass partitions in restaurants. She called the partitions "a Zion curtain," imposed to satisfy Mormons whose faith eschews alcohol.
Although the four other commissioners have not supported Coray in her quest to take away liquor licenses from sexually oriented establishments, they did not indicate whether they would back Corey's bid to keep alcohol out of view.
Glass walls don't obscure the alcohol, said Coray, a nondrinker, turning the "atmosphere in a restaurant to more of a bar." She singled out the Cheesecake Factory, which opens its first Utah outlet at Fashion Place in Murray on Nov. 1, because alcohol bottles are in plain view.
"We have a dual responsibility," she said. "We are to make alcohol available for those who want to consume it and at the same time not make anyone uncomfortable."
Current regulations involving glass partitions can be tricky.
At Squatters Pub Brewery in Salt Lake City, servers constantly must explain Utah liquor laws to befuddled customers - both visitors and locals - said general manager Scott Evans
Patrons can buy a glass of beer downstairs at one bar, which has a tavern license. But in the loft upstairs, which has a full-service liquor license, diners may not order a drink at the counter. Instead, servers instruct customers to take a seat because alcohol may only be served at dining tables
"It's a constant challenge to explain Utah liquor laws," said Evans. "And this is true for most every restaurant in downtown Salt Lake City."
Compliance director Earl Dorius said the courts allow restaurants to show or advertise liquor stocks.
Six years ago, the 10th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals forced Utah to lift a state-imposed ban against liquor advertising. That ban prevented restaurants from showing wine and spirits lists when advertising that they sold alcohol.
For her part, Coray defended Utah's liquor laws, saying she's challenged the public to come up with one "quirky" liquor statute, and so far, no one has. "Maybe it's just a perception of a problem," said Coray. "People haven't been able to point out any silly laws to me."
I would like to invite everyone to contact the governor and voice your displeasure at the policies of Bobbie Coray. Governor Huntsman has the power to either remove her from her position or at least speak with her regarding the offensive and divisive rules she seeks to enact. Governor Huntsman can be contacted here: http://governor.utah.gov/goca/form_comment.html
but we like booze!!
I hate religion.
Ok, sounds good to me. Instead, let's stick a big rubber Dick on the Bar Mirror!! See if that offends anyone..
I'm offended at the sight of prude religious people..
I'm offended at the sight of prude religious people..
That does it, we're moving to Amsterdam.
Yeah and people try and tell me that the LDS Church doesn't influence the fuckin government here. What a fuckin joke.
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They're in denial, Brigham Young was quite the drinker. He's probably spinning in his grave right now, weak beer, only one wife...I don't think this is what he had in mind for Utah.
I might be wrong, but aren't there more important things to fix in this state?
I'm not a drinker, and yet I don't really understand who benefits from turning the liquor laws into a Chinese fire drill.
I'm not a drinker, and yet I don't really understand who benefits from turning the liquor laws into a Chinese fire drill.
At least we don't have any "dry counties" in Utah. But , yeah, the laws here are getting a bit on the extreme side.
Religion can lick my ass....oh wait i like that....umm.....lick my toilet or something then. 
Utah County has blue laws. Dry on Sunday. More bullshit laws that defy the first amendment.
It's no wonder that more people are turning to sex and drugs in the privacy of their own homes. Besides, it's really expensive to get drunk in a bar in Utah.
I'm offended by CTR rings and mini-vans. Let's get rid of them!
I'm offended by CTR rings and mini-vans. Let's get rid of them!
Just a follow up to this story. Turns out she meant the whole thing as a a joke. I will take this statement from her with a huge grain of salt.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2114480
Two weeks ago an alcohol beverage commissioner's comments stirred a bit of a controversy. Bobbie Coray was quoted as saying she wants to cover up bottles of booze in restaurants. That comment, meant as a joke, has been taken so seriously she's gotten death threats.
The commission was talking about Utah's drinking laws; there are some that Utah's restaurants deal with that you won't find anywhere else in the country. Coray says she was sarcastically trying to point out how awkward one law is, when she said booze should be better hidden from view.
Today was a good day online for Bobbie Coray, but last week, not-so-good e-mails began pouring in -- some rude, one flat-out frightening. One e-mail read, "I hope you die slowly, painfully and alone."
Coray says it took reading a few to figure out what was going on, that all the e-mails centered around something she said at her monthly Alcohol Beverage Control meeting.
"I actually said we should get rid of Utah's quirky laws, and one of them is the glass curtain that exists," she explains. But it was the way she talked about the glass curtain, the partition that Utah law requires to separate booze, bartenders and patrons in restaurants, that got her into trouble.
"Clear glass doesn't do very much good. That was a joke," she said.
Coray says one local newspaper got it right, reporting she wanted to review the glass curtain law and its effectiveness. The other, she says, got it wrong, implying she wanted booze kept out of view completely, fueling criticism that she was doing the bidding of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She says it's all a misunderstanding.
"I've been misquoted and I've said dumb things before and had to say,
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2114480
Two weeks ago an alcohol beverage commissioner's comments stirred a bit of a controversy. Bobbie Coray was quoted as saying she wants to cover up bottles of booze in restaurants. That comment, meant as a joke, has been taken so seriously she's gotten death threats.
The commission was talking about Utah's drinking laws; there are some that Utah's restaurants deal with that you won't find anywhere else in the country. Coray says she was sarcastically trying to point out how awkward one law is, when she said booze should be better hidden from view.
Today was a good day online for Bobbie Coray, but last week, not-so-good e-mails began pouring in -- some rude, one flat-out frightening. One e-mail read, "I hope you die slowly, painfully and alone."
Coray says it took reading a few to figure out what was going on, that all the e-mails centered around something she said at her monthly Alcohol Beverage Control meeting.
"I actually said we should get rid of Utah's quirky laws, and one of them is the glass curtain that exists," she explains. But it was the way she talked about the glass curtain, the partition that Utah law requires to separate booze, bartenders and patrons in restaurants, that got her into trouble.
"Clear glass doesn't do very much good. That was a joke," she said.
Coray says one local newspaper got it right, reporting she wanted to review the glass curtain law and its effectiveness. The other, she says, got it wrong, implying she wanted booze kept out of view completely, fueling criticism that she was doing the bidding of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. She says it's all a misunderstanding.
"I've been misquoted and I've said dumb things before and had to say,
Ok, so the separation of church and state is not, evidently, applicable in this state. I get offended by the local religion, and I am sure many more of you do too. Maybe we should get a bill together to ban advertising, showing, propigating, the LDS.... anything anyone is offended by should be banned!!!! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is why learning to live with others with opposing views and beliefs is what this COUNTRY is about. I swear, Utah is just waiting for the right time to secede from the US of A.. like it has planned to all the time. Cause it sure is a different country when you come here from any other state!. Just my rant, and no offense meant to any one person or religion.