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Not so fast. That is the social norm of THEIR country. We do the same thing here in the US.
Next time you are in California at the beach, try having your wife sunbathe without her top on. She would most certainly receive a citation for such "behavior." But in Europe, sunbathing topless is the norm.
What do you think Europeans think of us? "Glad I don't live in America" where they control what you wear at the beach.
Silly I know, but it does illustrate parallels. The "State" controls what Islamic women do in public and the "State" controls what US citizens do in public.
Would it be nice to have a completely free, anarchistic society; one tempered by any norm or more except theft, trespass, and assault? It would be hedonistic and I'm not sure I would want to raise my children there.
Next time you are in California at the beach, try having your wife sunbathe without her top on. She would most certainly receive a citation for such "behavior." But in Europe, sunbathing topless is the norm.
What do you think Europeans think of us? "Glad I don't live in America" where they control what you wear at the beach.
Silly I know, but it does illustrate parallels. The "State" controls what Islamic women do in public and the "State" controls what US citizens do in public.
Would it be nice to have a completely free, anarchistic society; one tempered by any norm or more except theft, trespass, and assault? It would be hedonistic and I'm not sure I would want to raise my children there.
I don't agree with it here either. I don't believe in censorship at all. What this video shows is how America will be, if we continue to let Christianity dictate our way of life. Where Christianity here and Islam there differ is that they actually publicly beat and murder their citizens that do not comply. It is not a social norm, it's religious oppression. Their degree is much higher than ours, which is why I said I am glad to be here and not there. :-)
We don't need a "god" to tell us what is right and wrong. Things like murder, rape and theft don't work in any society that wants to achieve peace and a "live and let live" environment. We can have a free society with laws that only restrict your ability to impose your actions or beliefs on others. It doesn't have to be anarchy. Just as it doesn't have to be dictated by any of these cults a.k.a. "religions".
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We don't need a "god" to tell us what is right and wrong. Things like murder, rape and theft don't work in any society that wants to achieve peace and a "live and let live" environment. We can have a free society with laws that only restrict your ability to impose your actions or beliefs on others. It doesn't have to be anarchy. Just as it doesn't have to be dictated by any of these cults a.k.a. "religions".
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this was sent to me so I though i would pass it on
Who is Barack Obama?
Very interesting.....and something that should be read and considered.
If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to
all your contacts...this is very scarey to think of what lies ahead of
us here in our own United States ...better heed this and pray about it
and share it.
We checked this out on 'snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for yourself.
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.,
a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white
ATHIEST from Wichita , Kansas .
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii . When
Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned
to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from
Indonesia.? When Obama was! 6 years old, the family relocated to
Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also
spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a
Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but
that he also attended Catholic school.'
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that?
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama
returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any
direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann
Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a
Wahabi school in Jakarta .
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the
Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western
world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking
major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has
joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected
presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US
from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest
level - through the President of the United States , one of their own!!!!
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this
man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!
Who is Barack Obama?
Very interesting.....and something that should be read and considered.
If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to
all your contacts...this is very scarey to think of what lies ahead of
us here in our own United States ...better heed this and pray about it
and share it.
We checked this out on 'snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for yourself.
Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein
Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.,
a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white
ATHIEST from Wichita , Kansas .
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii . When
Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned
to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from
Indonesia.? When Obama was! 6 years old, the family relocated to
Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also
spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a
Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but
that he also attended Catholic school.'
Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that?
Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this
influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama
returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any
direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann
Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a
Wahabi school in Jakarta .
Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the
Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western
world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking
major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has
joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim
background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he
DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran.
Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected
presidential candidacy.
The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US
from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest
level - through the President of the United States , one of their own!!!!
Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this
man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!
Actually, snopes has said those emails are false....
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/obama.asp
Before we go throwing rocks
Oh, I don't know. Religious oppression?
Hmmm...I look around here in the U.S. and I see a lot of that now. On both sides. Too bad we're ignoring our own Constitution.
Can't really knock a culture and their beliefs, even if I don't agree with some of them. I'm sure they don't understand us. If you study (I mean REALLY study) the history of Islam, you may realize they have been a very progressive social and cultural force for most of their history.
Women have had the right to vote.
Women could fight in wars.
Muhammad formed an alliance with MANY Jewish tribes and brought stability to a disassociated land of tribal rule.
Etc, etc.
Look at the history of pretty much EVERY religion and you'll see brutality, oppression, violence, taking away the rights of the "lesser" classes (women, races, etc.)
I don't know that throwing stones or saying "My beliefs are right, yours are wrong!" is ever going to work or solve anything. Thus is why our Founding Fathers had a bit of wisdom in their Separation of Church and State.
That's eroding now.
Seems like we're fighting to become *more* like the things we fear about Islam.
My spare change.
-K_T
Hmmm...I look around here in the U.S. and I see a lot of that now. On both sides. Too bad we're ignoring our own Constitution.
Can't really knock a culture and their beliefs, even if I don't agree with some of them. I'm sure they don't understand us. If you study (I mean REALLY study) the history of Islam, you may realize they have been a very progressive social and cultural force for most of their history.
Women have had the right to vote.
Women could fight in wars.
Muhammad formed an alliance with MANY Jewish tribes and brought stability to a disassociated land of tribal rule.
Etc, etc.
Look at the history of pretty much EVERY religion and you'll see brutality, oppression, violence, taking away the rights of the "lesser" classes (women, races, etc.)
I don't know that throwing stones or saying "My beliefs are right, yours are wrong!" is ever going to work or solve anything. Thus is why our Founding Fathers had a bit of wisdom in their Separation of Church and State.
That's eroding now.
Seems like we're fighting to become *more* like the things we fear about Islam.
My spare change.
-K_T
Amen Brother, testify!!
Thanks Kristy
Religion has no place in <u>any</u> government. If we rid ourselves of religions that justify hate, the world would be a better place. Christianity and Islam should be the first to go.
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