My guess is that happens 90% of the time. I see it here on this site all the time.
"We are looking for single fems and not single males" Why else, except the double standard?
I think alot of women agree to let him have his desired FMF, but in retrospect are not allowed a MFM.
I also believe alot of girls that claim "bi-curious" are not, and they only do so that their man can have his cake and eat it too.
My 2 cents
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"We are looking for single fems and not single males" Why else, except the double standard?
I think alot of women agree to let him have his desired FMF, but in retrospect are not allowed a MFM.
I also believe alot of girls that claim "bi-curious" are not, and they only do so that their man can have his cake and eat it too.
My 2 cents
~K~
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One of my pet peeves is the term "bi-curious". You're either bi or your just curious. 99.9% of the time in our experience, the bi-curious are not bi, but there husbands are wanting them to be. It's like saying I"m straight-curious. No, I'm definitely straight. There is no curiosity about it.
As far as the MFM syndrome with guys, I think it's all about security. Guys tend to have the "rule the roost" mentality and don't want any other cocks, so-to-speak invading. The other thing is the competitive nature of males. Most guys cringe at the idea of being out-dicked or out performed. Bottom line guys, you have to look at it like sex and sex alone. You have to think of another male as a living, breathing, warm dildo that is there to give your wife pleasure. It's usually a turn-on to see your woman getting rail-roaded by some stud (if you haven't ever experienced it). I have, and amazingly enough, my wife is still married to me, we are still in love, and we both look at the experiences as a lot of fun. She reciprocates with the women and let's me play too. I think to truly enjoy this lifestyle, you have to discuss the feelings before hand, make sure you are both comfortable and don't worry about "feeling good", it's supposed to. When your wife moans with someone else, let it turn you on, not make you feel inferior. It makes for great after sex when you are together and you have your wife talk to you and tell you about her experience while you are making love to her. You'll both cum hard and you'll both cum fast! At least we do..
The double standard is normally up to the couple however. Some couples just prefer women. So be it. If the woman wants a man though, I think it should be allowed and would be totally unfair to her if they have already done the FMF thing. Guys, let her experience it. I'm telling you if you do it right, it will turn you both on.
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One of my pet peeves is the term "bi-curious". You're either bi or your just curious. 99.9% of the time in our experience, the bi-curious are not bi, but there husbands are wanting them to be. It's like saying I"m straight-curious. No, I'm definitely straight. There is no curiosity about it.
As far as the MFM syndrome with guys, I think it's all about security. Guys tend to have the "rule the roost" mentality and don't want any other cocks, so-to-speak invading. The other thing is the competitive nature of males. Most guys cringe at the idea of being out-dicked or out performed. Bottom line guys, you have to look at it like sex and sex alone. You have to think of another male as a living, breathing, warm dildo that is there to give your wife pleasure. It's usually a turn-on to see your woman getting rail-roaded by some stud (if you haven't ever experienced it). I have, and amazingly enough, my wife is still married to me, we are still in love, and we both look at the experiences as a lot of fun. She reciprocates with the women and let's me play too. I think to truly enjoy this lifestyle, you have to discuss the feelings before hand, make sure you are both comfortable and don't worry about "feeling good", it's supposed to. When your wife moans with someone else, let it turn you on, not make you feel inferior. It makes for great after sex when you are together and you have your wife talk to you and tell you about her experience while you are making love to her. You'll both cum hard and you'll both cum fast! At least we do..
The double standard is normally up to the couple however. Some couples just prefer women. So be it. If the woman wants a man though, I think it should be allowed and would be totally unfair to her if they have already done the FMF thing. Guys, let her experience it. I'm telling you if you do it right, it will turn you both on.
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I would say that we are a direct contrast to that. We tend to entertain more single males than we do single-females. I enjoy watching my spouse enjoying herself. I also enjoy my time with others as well, but lets face it -- it is alot easier to find an available male partner to play with than it is to find a single-female.
We are pretty easy goin'.. and enjoy singles as well as couple play. I also will set up an occasional GB for the Mrs with multiple male as well. I enjoy having variety, but I know my physical limitations -- 2 women at the SAME TIME is about the most I can divide attention to. I have come to face reality -- I am not superman .. I am just your average 'joe' with a healthy sexual apetite.
As far as Bi, Bi-curious.. well.. I know that my Mrs is comfortable playing with other females and enjoys it. However, she is not the kind to set up a girl-on-girl playtime..unless there is also a man around. She likes group play with women but prefers to finish with a man.
Just our 2 cents worht!
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We are pretty easy goin'.. and enjoy singles as well as couple play. I also will set up an occasional GB for the Mrs with multiple male as well. I enjoy having variety, but I know my physical limitations -- 2 women at the SAME TIME is about the most I can divide attention to. I have come to face reality -- I am not superman .. I am just your average 'joe' with a healthy sexual apetite.
As far as Bi, Bi-curious.. well.. I know that my Mrs is comfortable playing with other females and enjoys it. However, she is not the kind to set up a girl-on-girl playtime..unless there is also a man around. She likes group play with women but prefers to finish with a man.
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He's a huge hypocrite, but that goes without saying.
As far as the couples looking for single females and not single males. Without interviewing each and every couple that has their profile listed that way, you can't say for sure that its the same issue involved in their situation. We, or more specifically, I am not looking for single guys to play with cuz if I want one, I already know a few good ones that I can get in touch with about that. If I want a MFM, I can have it and since I have very limited time why should I spend it looking for, meeting and getting to know new guys? If someone does catch my interest I will definitely contact them, but overall I'm more interested in quality vs. quantity. If at some point there is again a need to look for single guys, we'll add that to our profile.
Single females, however, we have yet to run across one that's close enough to us to be a viable option, which is why we're still looking. If we find one that we enjoy spending time with, we won't be looking for a single female either, cuz while threesomes are great from time to time, moresomes are even better.
Just my .02
-SG
As far as the couples looking for single females and not single males. Without interviewing each and every couple that has their profile listed that way, you can't say for sure that its the same issue involved in their situation. We, or more specifically, I am not looking for single guys to play with cuz if I want one, I already know a few good ones that I can get in touch with about that. If I want a MFM, I can have it and since I have very limited time why should I spend it looking for, meeting and getting to know new guys? If someone does catch my interest I will definitely contact them, but overall I'm more interested in quality vs. quantity. If at some point there is again a need to look for single guys, we'll add that to our profile.
Single females, however, we have yet to run across one that's close enough to us to be a viable option, which is why we're still looking. If we find one that we enjoy spending time with, we won't be looking for a single female either, cuz while threesomes are great from time to time, moresomes are even better.
Just my .02
-SG
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It's a preference thing. You're in this to have fun, not do things that you don't like or disagree with. If you are upfront and honest with eachother in the beginning, you should be able to decide what works for you. I see that no one mentioned that some women are not in it for the "another man" experience. We have to remember that not all of us are in this for the same thing.
If a guy gets excited about seeing his wife with another female and not another male, there is nothing worng with that. We all know what we like and don't like. However, if he's not going to be cool with MFM, then he should be ok with there not being any FMF, if the woman decides that the fairest route would be MFMF.
We have decided that the latter works best for us. I have no particular interest in watching my wife with another guy while I pull my pud. She's not into the DP or having two guys at once, so that leave us with couples. There is no insecurity, because my wife is with another guy with a couple. It's more about equality and fairness. Couples that play together stay together. By that, when you make your decisions on what make you happy, make sure you are both happy with them.
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It's a preference thing. You're in this to have fun, not do things that you don't like or disagree with. If you are upfront and honest with eachother in the beginning, you should be able to decide what works for you. I see that no one mentioned that some women are not in it for the "another man" experience. We have to remember that not all of us are in this for the same thing.
If a guy gets excited about seeing his wife with another female and not another male, there is nothing worng with that. We all know what we like and don't like. However, if he's not going to be cool with MFM, then he should be ok with there not being any FMF, if the woman decides that the fairest route would be MFMF.
We have decided that the latter works best for us. I have no particular interest in watching my wife with another guy while I pull my pud. She's not into the DP or having two guys at once, so that leave us with couples. There is no insecurity, because my wife is with another guy with a couple. It's more about equality and fairness. Couples that play together stay together. By that, when you make your decisions on what make you happy, make sure you are both happy with them.
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In HIS opinion, it is a lot to do with the fact that MANY single men are WAY to agressive...Our experience has been that we have met 2 single men that were ACTUALLY swingers, the rest were simply looking for an easy piece of ass...Boy were they mistaken...
Sure, there is some insecurity, but that seems to be less than I initially thought...After reading many of Don's opinions on single men, I think that a lot of others are of the same thought...ALso...there is a lot of the men saying, "If she gets some, I get some" we have actually heard men say that before...We have also had men storm off because there wife was wanted and they were not....but thats a whole other ball of wax....
The topic at hand, they were NOT totally honest with each other...He IS insecure...if he admits to a little insecurity, he is VERY insecure...think about it T4, you're a man, would you tell on yourself on television? HELL NO...No man would...Unless there was HUGE sums of money involved....
Sure, there is some insecurity, but that seems to be less than I initially thought...After reading many of Don's opinions on single men, I think that a lot of others are of the same thought...ALso...there is a lot of the men saying, "If she gets some, I get some" we have actually heard men say that before...We have also had men storm off because there wife was wanted and they were not....but thats a whole other ball of wax....
The topic at hand, they were NOT totally honest with each other...He IS insecure...if he admits to a little insecurity, he is VERY insecure...think about it T4, you're a man, would you tell on yourself on television? HELL NO...No man would...Unless there was HUGE sums of money involved....
It happens every time a couple gets into swinging with out COMMUNICATING!!!!!!
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I agree totally. As I said, you have to make sure that both of you are happy with your arrangement before moving forward.
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I agree totally. As I said, you have to make sure that both of you are happy with your arrangement before moving forward.
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Well, with us it is simple. I am very bi and love playing with new sexy women almost more than I like playing with new men, and the couples so far we have played with the women have been able to please me much more than the men, and I personally don't think it is hot to have 2 guys on me at once, I just like them one at a time. I don't want to be sucking someone while being fucked but that is just me. I have tried it, but just didn't like it that much. We have had many FFM threesomes and I love them, but I think I acutally like couples more. And I say FFM, because that is what they are like, both Dave and some single hottie all over me. I love it.
With me, I don't really have a desire to have an MFM, because I love having the other girl to play with, and that is one of the things that turns me on most about swinging. Because then I get a super hot girl to get me all turned on, and then I get to play with my man, or some new stunt cock. To me couples are the ultimate, and I have never found a guy that I would really want to play with in an MFM situation with Dave, its just not one of my fantasies at all. But who knows, if we played with a couple, and he was just that good, Dave would probably let me play with him alone, but wouldn't want any part of it because he is completely straight. It wouldn't be hot to him either. I am truly bisexual and Dave is not so it makes sense why we like FMFs and not MFM's. Am I alone on this one? I know a few of the couples I have met the woman half seems to love having 2 men in her at once, but I just don't like it. That's just me.
Dave is the only guy that can make me cum on a regular basis, but I am hopeful that we will find a couple that we play with a lot that will be able to learn how to please me, because I am not easy. LOL. But that doesn't mean I don't like it. I still like it a lot even if I don't cum.
Anyway, just my 2 cents....I know mine is probably not the norm, but I believe whatever makes you both happy, go with it. If you are unhappy about a situation you should be talking to your partner about it.
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With me, I don't really have a desire to have an MFM, because I love having the other girl to play with, and that is one of the things that turns me on most about swinging. Because then I get a super hot girl to get me all turned on, and then I get to play with my man, or some new stunt cock. To me couples are the ultimate, and I have never found a guy that I would really want to play with in an MFM situation with Dave, its just not one of my fantasies at all. But who knows, if we played with a couple, and he was just that good, Dave would probably let me play with him alone, but wouldn't want any part of it because he is completely straight. It wouldn't be hot to him either. I am truly bisexual and Dave is not so it makes sense why we like FMFs and not MFM's. Am I alone on this one? I know a few of the couples I have met the woman half seems to love having 2 men in her at once, but I just don't like it. That's just me.
Dave is the only guy that can make me cum on a regular basis, but I am hopeful that we will find a couple that we play with a lot that will be able to learn how to please me, because I am not easy. LOL. But that doesn't mean I don't like it. I still like it a lot even if I don't cum.
Anyway, just my 2 cents....I know mine is probably not the norm, but I believe whatever makes you both happy, go with it. If you are unhappy about a situation you should be talking to your partner about it.
Monica
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We don't mind a FMF or a MFM but we want to pick the male for the MFM. We have found that single males will fill your mail box even if you say "No single males". We say that because we have no problem finding single males. It doesn't bother male if female wants a MFM and it doesn't bother female if male wants a FMF (they are harder to come by) so we usually go for a MFMF and everybody has fun.
I am listed as bi-curious and yet I am or can be very bi why, easy cause every guy out there thinks I will do anything and there still has to be a connection so it is safer to say bi-curios than bi! as far as the other subject, yes guys seem very ok with them having but very very hesitate with there wife/parnter having the same. Thats just my experience in the past 5 years, lol!
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Not speaking to T4 here, but why do single guys have to be in the most part, agressive assholes. The women in this lifestyle don't seem to be on a cock hunt. IF they were, man what a crazy place this would be. Thank god the women are after the "quality" and not the quantity. I guess I forgot to add, we do prefer the couple on couple action. The only challenge is; timing, chemistry, and being in a place where you can actually do what you want. We have met couples and it's been hard many times to actually carry out what we desire due to the surrounding, and atmosphere. I didn't watch the movie T4, but I was just going from past experiences and what initially held me back in the beginning. I've never sat back and watched my wife while I pulled my pud but definitely was in the mix. It can be just as fun as 2 women. Sex is sex. No reason to limit youself when everything can be so much fun!!
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Not speaking to T4 here, but why do single guys have to be in the most part, agressive assholes. The women in this lifestyle don't seem to be on a cock hunt. IF they were, man what a crazy place this would be. Thank god the women are after the "quality" and not the quantity. I guess I forgot to add, we do prefer the couple on couple action. The only challenge is; timing, chemistry, and being in a place where you can actually do what you want. We have met couples and it's been hard many times to actually carry out what we desire due to the surrounding, and atmosphere. I didn't watch the movie T4, but I was just going from past experiences and what initially held me back in the beginning. I've never sat back and watched my wife while I pulled my pud but definitely was in the mix. It can be just as fun as 2 women. Sex is sex. No reason to limit youself when everything can be so much fun!!
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HOLD ON A MINUTE!! If you are involved in a MFM, it doesn't mean that either guy is bi or gay. I have been in this situation a couple times and at no point did either male want to get ass fucked or recieve a blow job. It's always been two guys trying to please a hot woman. Just wanted to be clear here, 3somes with two guys does not mean either one is gay or bi. I'm definitely straight. It boils down to what Don said earlier, it's about choices and preferences. Sometimes, when the timing is right, I like to watch my wife and engage in the mix with another male. It's rare, but it does happen.
LVS, as far as hot couples go, we'd be one of those for you if we knew a little more about you.
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HOLD ON A MINUTE!! If you are involved in a MFM, it doesn't mean that either guy is bi or gay. I have been in this situation a couple times and at no point did either male want to get ass fucked or recieve a blow job. It's always been two guys trying to please a hot woman. Just wanted to be clear here, 3somes with two guys does not mean either one is gay or bi. I'm definitely straight. It boils down to what Don said earlier, it's about choices and preferences. Sometimes, when the timing is right, I like to watch my wife and engage in the mix with another male. It's rare, but it does happen.
LVS, as far as hot couples go, we'd be one of those for you if we knew a little more about you.
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We believe it always has to be a mutual agreement within the couple....but most men look at 2 ladies as the more the merrier!! But the idea of another man...then they fear in antiquity has reared its head!! no pun intended!! I am not worried..but it is also the security of the couple. some couples use this lifestyle as a "fix" to a spouse who is prone to cheating and forces themselves. Others want their fantasy of multiple partners...but not their spouses!! And the rest of us......We just know how to hoist our freak flags in a way ALL OTHERS WISH THEY COULD!!!!
But i could be wrong....lol
But i could be wrong....lol
I guess I just don't understand how a couple can play, as a couple, if the guy or lady is insecure. Doesn't that promote the dreaded "DRAMA". We have played separately at hotel parties and at house parties and she has done me orally while "johnny"(fictitious name) does her in her vagina. Doesn't bother me at all...
PS: Would love to do DP with someone some day... but this is the deep south and unless it's a relative there is generally no anal play....Just kidding...
PS: Would love to do DP with someone some day... but this is the deep south and unless it's a relative there is generally no anal play....Just kidding...
Okay, I can't sit back and read this without responding - Swinging is about everyone having a great time and too often the men aren't paying attention to what the ladies want.
We went for years with FMF or couples only, then one night we met a guy that my wife thought was hot and we invited him to our hotel room, to which he happily obliged. I absolutely enjoyed watching him take her, then we'd switch off or one on each end, it wasn't homosexual AT ALL.
I started to fantasize about watching her with other men more and more and then she told me she wanted to try a DP, so we did - she must have cum 20 times that night.
Anyway - long story short, if you haven't tried MFM you just may be missing out on something you didn't realize you would enjoy - and you don't have to be gay to like it!
We're still enjoying the couple play the most but finding that MFM can be just as fun as FMF.
NOTACROWD
We went for years with FMF or couples only, then one night we met a guy that my wife thought was hot and we invited him to our hotel room, to which he happily obliged. I absolutely enjoyed watching him take her, then we'd switch off or one on each end, it wasn't homosexual AT ALL.
I started to fantasize about watching her with other men more and more and then she told me she wanted to try a DP, so we did - she must have cum 20 times that night.
Anyway - long story short, if you haven't tried MFM you just may be missing out on something you didn't realize you would enjoy - and you don't have to be gay to like it!
We're still enjoying the couple play the most but finding that MFM can be just as fun as FMF.
NOTACROWD
We have tried MFM before. However, at this point, we seem to have 100% success with picking up the guys who are jerks. So, if you ask me about introducing a single male, I will be leery. If you ask me about a single female, same. Why? Because the wife is not all that into women.